2005 Archived Reports

Listen guys I was reading around other boards and got a little upset. Some of you guys are messing the pricing up for everyone. Wouldn't you like to get FS for. 20 rather than. 50 no matter what the girl looked like. I mean Angel is a hot looker compared to most but she is no different than the others. When you guys accept the high price they expect that everyone should pay this same high price. And also think about it. We know that there going to go and smoke with the money but don't you think they will spend more time on the streets trying to make money that sitting up smoking if we paid them less. A. 20 smoke compared to a. 50 smoke is a big difference. I don't know about you guys but I hate having to drive around and waiting for girls to come out. Think that winter is coming and the more often they are out the less money we will have to spend on these ridiculous gas prices.

Remember Fellas the ladies really need us more than we need them. We can easily drive to another city or location. Even the AMPS are nice sometime. But the Girls are generally stuck in the same place which means that we have to set the prices.

Try this and see if it works. "I'm actually on my lunch break and all I brought was. 20" She will say that she will do oral for that but quickly shoot back "Yeah but I really want to FS" "Maybe I will try back another time"

If a girl hears this from several different people and we stick to this price, Trust me that. 20 will begin to look real attractive to her. Use this strategy on the Great looking girls and even the one that are barley worth looking at. It will help everyone.

Please don't take this the wrong way. Just trying to offer a bit of help for all of us. I know that I can't be the only one that feels this way.

Smallfry

Giani--

Is this the same Angel I connected with a while back? If she is, then just keep on moving. She's not worth the $ in attitude or skill. Tits are nice, but that's with the help of a well worn pushup. Seriously, just look elsewhere to same yourself the aggravation.

Glad to see some life on this board.

Boeing--- good for you!!! Nice to see some good action somewhere, even the Fay Apartments.

D'NUT


[QUOTE=Giani]Angel is a cute young thing with great breasts and zero reliability. I tried several times to connect (she actually had digits for a while--no longer functional) and she would give time and place, and no show. I am still interested to hear if anyone actually connects with her. My suspicion is that she would be maximally detached...

Sauna... Yes--great ass, formerly vivacious personality, friendly, engaging. I saw her a month ago on the street. She has descended into H Hell. (On the street, they call heroin "dog food..." ) Barely conscious, nodding mid sentence. I wish there were something to do to help her. Barely a glimmer of who she used to be. It is a paradox of the street. I serious worry about her.[/QUOTE]

Nice to see your post D'Nut. Yep--even her digits no longer work. I gave you her digits a while back, with the warning that she had not shown for me in the past. Your report is just what I expected. Lame. You have to admit that she is cute at first blush...

I have not yet checked out the Fay Apts. Do I need an address, or is it common knowledge to all?

Regarding the thread on price... I got excellent FS for 0.2 in Costa Rica, but would never expect it here. If you can get it, bravo, but IMHO, I don't think that 0.4 for FS is unreasonable in the states. Good luck finding it decently for THAT! And never anywhere but on the streets. My experience is 0.2 for BBJTCIM, 0.4 for FS for "discount" ladies. Below, I would worry even more about STDs or rip offs.

I still hope to hear from someone knowledgable about street cameras in OTR...


[QUOTE=D Nut]Giani--

Is this the same Angel I connected with a while back? If she is, then just keep on moving. She's not worth the $ in attitude or skill. Tits are nice, but that's with the help of a well worn pushup. Seriously, just look elsewhere to same yourself the aggravation.
D'NUT[/QUOTE]

i went to the tatoo masage place by limedale last night about 8.and it was closed so im seting outside in my truck talking on the cell phone.when a guy comes out and askes what my problem is seting out there.and i said just using my phone.and i ask if there closed and he says yeh but the girls will be back in the morning.so i just ask him straight up if a guy can buy some pussy there.and he says no way in hell.and you cant touch the girls at all.and sense i dont look nothing like a cop.ive got long hair.and i was in my work truck with ladder raks id say that is the anser no nothing there.sorry guys

I see that you are a long time poster, and you probably know how to avoid problems for mongers and providers, but several aspects of your post cause me concern.

1) I do not think it is a good idea to spell out explicitly what and where an establishment is which may provide services to mongers. Like, we KNOW LE monitors these boards. PM would be a good avenue for explicit addresses of establishment if someone wants that info.

2) While DIRECT communication has its place, perhaps a little more subtility is in order when asking about what services may be offered and what you would like. It gives the person you are asking a little wiggle room to dance around the question until he is certain you are not LE. (You know, it is like when initially talking with an SW, you don't say, "How much for a good f**k?" If they are LE, you are busted, if they aren't, they may wonder about blatent entrapment. Don't you say when first talking with an SW, "Need a ride?" I might have asked about the quality of the massage, the girls who give them, etc.

3) If I were the guy who worked there, I would still smell entrapment, racks, ladders and long hair not with standing.

4) Finally, Amelia, Ohio is a small town, and one in which it is hard to keep below the radar. If there IS such action there, the providers would HAVE to be very subtle about telling folks about it.

Just a few thoughts. BTW, I am very interested in action in Clermont, and have only heard third hand rumors that there is ANY. I still wait for positive (subtle) reports.

Giani

[QUOTE=Denny Samples]i went to the tatoo masage place by limedale last night about 8.and it was closed so im seting outside in my truck talking on the cell phone.when a guy comes out and askes what my problem is seting out there.and i said just using my phone.and i ask if there closed and he says yeh but the girls will be back in the morning.so i just ask him straight up if a guy can buy some pussy there.and he says no way in hell.and you cant touch the girls at all.and sense i dont look nothing like a cop.ive got long hair.and i was in my work truck with ladder raks id say that is the anser no nothing there.sorry guys[/QUOTE]

GIANI,

GLAD TO KNOW YOU GOT YOUR NAME BACK and YOU ARE POSTING UNDER IT.
I see you have had it for a while now!

That was excellent advice. I have just seen people do some really unique things that seem to defy common sense or Uncommon Sense. I just let them go and hope our pathes don't cross, especially at a bad time. I get Private mail from folks asking question that they don't need me to answer, especially if they take a little extra time to seach this site, and all the post. If they think of it like they from if they were investing money, which basically they are, they/people would investigate, search, and back check inform. Then they would have their own "Quik Ref." data base. This is why I have just stopped giving specific info, and I keep it extremely general. Just the other day I saw a man trying to pick up a girl who looked like a fish out of water, and he never saw the cops coming in the opposite direction. BUSTED !!! He got LUCKY, because they let him go and took the girl.

So Giani (G-Man), you will be top post on this site so school them well. I have found a lot of quiet places that the part timers work out of. I plan to keep them to myself, until someone else post about them. I have had my posted ggft, moved off their spots and out of the area. Now they work out of areas that basically does not have sw walking the area that are obvious.

The OTR clubs are gone, and MAIN St., is the place. In the BARs, are the weekend tricks, and you can't get them on the cheap anymore. They know the score. LE has made quality very rare, so through the NOSE you must pay. I just picked up last weekend two walking to the bar that I knew from the Clifton area. We did a quickie, and off they went. No one else would get the price I paid, because I knew them during their heavy drug use days. And I treated them with respect. It is still paying off.

As for other areas, unless you know people in those areas, and they keep you informed on what is going on in the area, you could be in trouble, with more than just the police. Know your area will, and read the archived POST. And have a person in the area you can go to, to cover yourself, if followed by LE, or at least a detailed map to point out that you are lost. It makes a good accuse for being in a bad area, and not looking like you are trying to score.


WORD !


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YOU HAVE GIVEN EXCELLENT ADVICE, BUT ?

BUT .... THEY/WE/THEM/US, WILL NEVER GET IT ! I have been preaching this since my first days on this board before the 2-3 upgrades. Back when you had to email Jackson the post, and it got post about a week later.

The problem is "QUALITY", and the lack of it. Folks will pay the higher price to get a decent SW. I have had to even go up a few more dollars at first then I work them down as I get with them, and I use a little respect, and charm, to get MY Price, to what I regularly will pay.

And if you are dealing out of town, are really stuck because you are not in town long enough to put in price controls unless you are willing to go way down in QUALITY. If you are dealing in an area like in the old day, then the girls will set a price , and they all stuck to it, unless it is a very slow day, or they need to quickly make a lot of money. If you will be in town from 1-3 week you can work some magic in price.

OTHERWISE, in Cincy, look to pay on the street 40-50 for decent quality, 30-40, for just decent, and less for everything else. Even the music now is telling the girls to charge 50-100 and up. It is even in some movies.

I STILL MUST AGREE THAT .... If everyone would commit to holding the price down, then we "ALL" really would benefit. It is the Parttime, Passive, Sucker type Monger that will screw things up everytime .... EVERYTIME !
IF THE SW WANT MORE MONEY, then be willing to kick her AZZ out, give her nothing, and pick up a lesser SW. After a couple of those, she will be willing to taKe Less.
BUT, after and hour of searching and you find a quality SW who wants more, what can you do. IN THIS CITY, we have very little choice. VERY LITTLE !


WORD !




[QUOTE=smallfry]Listen guys I was reading around other boards and got a little upset. Some of you guys are messing the pricing up for everyone. Wouldn't you like to get FS for. 20 rather than. 50 no matter what the girl looked like. I mean Angel is a hot looker compared to most but she is no different than the others. When you guys accept the high price they expect that everyone should pay this same high price. And also think about it. We know that there going to go and smoke with the money but don't you think they will spend more time on the streets trying to make money that sitting up smoking if we paid them less. A. 20 smoke compared to a. 50 smoke is a big difference. I don't know about you guys but I hate having to drive around and waiting for girls to come out. Think that winter is coming and the more often they are out the less money we will have to spend on these ridiculous gas prices.

Remember Fellas the ladies really need us more than we need them. We can easily drive to another city or location. Even the AMPS are nice sometime. But the Girls are generally stuck in the same place which means that we have to set the prices.

Try this and see if it works. "I'm actually on my lunch break and all I brought was. 20" She will say that she will do oral for that but quickly shoot back "Yeah but I really want to FS" "Maybe I will try back another time"

If a girl hears this from several different people and we stick to this price, Trust me that. 20 will begin to look real attractive to her. Use this strategy on the Great looking girls and even the one that are barley worth looking at. It will help everyone.

Please don't take this the wrong way. Just trying to offer a bit of help for all of us. I know that I can't be the only one that feels this way.

Smallfry[/QUOTE]

I have noticed Craiglist seems to be a source of some providers in other cities. I looked at the Cincinnati craiglist and it seems to be mainly phone sex and porn sites. Anyone have any luck on craiglist?

It is just like shopping. Some items cost more than others because of design, experience and quality. There is no set or flat price. Sorry - but this advice is simply the voice of inexperience. Not trying to dis you, but that is how I see it. These girls have no price guide they go buy. If you can negoiate a cheap price with them, then go for it. Who doesn't? Each girl is different. I have got off on the cheap before and had a great time, and I have paid more sometimes, so the attitude and the service will be better. Use your gut feeling, and if you not comfortable and think you can get a better deal, simply politely say, sorry, it's not going to work out and go about your business.

And sorry, if you are out there long enough and meet some of them, some of them are different than the others. If you are into whacked out Crackheads, then that may apply, but if you are willing to look around, you may find a different story.

[QUOTE=smallfry]Listen guys I was reading around other boards and got a little upset. Some of you guys are messing the pricing up for everyone. Wouldn't you like to get FS for. 20 rather than. 50 no matter what the girl looked like. I mean Angel is a hot looker compared to most but she is no different than the others. When you guys accept the high price they expect that everyone should pay this same high price. And also think about it. We know that there going to go and smoke with the money but don't you think they will spend more time on the streets trying to make money that sitting up smoking if we paid them less. A. 20 smoke compared to a. 50 smoke is a big difference. I don't know about you guys but I hate having to drive around and waiting for girls to come out. Think that winter is coming and the more often they are out the less money we will have to spend on these ridiculous gas prices.

Remember Fellas the ladies really need us more than we need them. We can easily drive to another city or location. Even the AMPS are nice sometime. But the Girls are generally stuck in the same place which means that we have to set the prices.

Try this and see if it works. "I'm actually on my lunch break and all I brought was. 20" She will say that she will do oral for that but quickly shoot back "Yeah but I really want to FS" "Maybe I will try back another time"

If a girl hears this from several different people and we stick to this price, Trust me that. 20 will begin to look real attractive to her. Use this strategy on the Great looking girls and even the one that are barley worth looking at. It will help everyone.

Please don't take this the wrong way. Just trying to offer a bit of help for all of us. I know that I can't be the only one that feels this way.

Smallfry[/QUOTE]

Fellas this isn't like buying gas in which case you have a limited group of suppliers that are all in the bed with eachother. As far as them coming in different types just remember this. When you go to a dollar store if you go to another dollar store 9 times out of 10 the exact same item or possibly with a little variation will be there and it will still cost 1 dollar.

I have had mellisa with the fake tits for. 20 and this is when she wasn't totally fucked. And the list continues. Sauna, if youv'e been to hamilton nina(who just went back to jail for a year), ba(if anyone else knows her), babygirl(when she wasn't pregnant). And the list can go on. But the one thing we have to remind them is that we don't have to get the worst girl if we can't them. I may pay only. 20 but I still treat them with respect and good light conversation. Even things like how is your day can save you a few bucks. If we get them to realize a girl is a girl things will change don't accept the worst substitute. Pick them up in the morning and if you don't like the price but pick them up later that night if possible when they have been out waiting to hit a lick and trust me they will learn.

Word up you have been a legend for me since I first found this sight. I am glad to see that you are still posting and educating people that are new to the board, because I tell you this it's the pits when I'm out and see people making rookie mistakes out here.

As far as hamilton. Stay away. Its a waste of time and there are only 4 girls that are left that have not been arrested. This summer was hard for hamilton and hopefully 6 months from now when everyone gets out things will get better. Honestly hamilton has the better women compared to the nasti but they also have a higher number of city and county officers working to stop the game.

Word up get at me some time. I have some girls that can truly appreciate a true king of the game.

Was in Hamilton Wednesday night and researched it here. Found a post about East st. and decided to give it a try. Cruised about 4 am and saw a hot little blonde by a pay phone in White Castles' lot. Tried to turn around but got hemmed up in that crazy intersection, so ended up coming back on 4(?) and found a little dinky rd that cut through. Almost shit my pants when i came face to face with a local cop sitting not 200 ft from the girl with her in the line of site, lights out and talking on his radio. Needless to say i did my Carl Lewis imitation and got the hell out of there. After passing the 'Man' i saw another vehicle (some giant SUV abortion) with a few guys in it as well...must have been a sting and i was almost the guest of honor.
Be safe.
G~A~B

Well, if you shop at a dollar store on a regular basis, then you going to get dollar store quality wherever you go.

The same scenario applies both ways. Rookies that assume that they can get any girl for the same price, are fooling themselves and ruining it for those who have crafted the hobby to a science.

[QUOTE=smallfry]Fellas this isn't like buying gas in which case you have a limited group of suppliers that are all in the bed with eachother. As far as them coming in different types just remember this. When you go to a dollar store if you go to another dollar store 9 times out of 10 the exact same item or possibly with a little variation will be there and it will still cost 1 dollar.

.[/QUOTE]

Picked up this black chick that hangs with AJ. Light skin with long hair and a nice ass. Can't remember her name but I'm sure that if you have seen her then you know who I am talking about. Went to a favorite spot of mine and got a 20 minute BJ that was the best by far. I had head from Sauna and damn it was good but this chick was ridiculous. Nice tits and she loves to have them sucked but didn't spend anytime doing that but I did see another chick that appears new.

New chick was named Martha, probably about a 7 in the looks department and she doesn't look cracked out. Long hair and decent face but her Pimp came out as we were talking and she had to depart. Had shoes on that blinked as she walked. Found her on Mcmicken near the HOT Spot bar. Said she had a room but I was strapped for time.

I posted a couple pictures and a story here if you are interested:

[url]http://www.usasexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?p=392482#post392482[/url]

Giani

Sauna has been mentioned several times recently on this forum, and I am hoping that someone has in fact seen her recently. The last time I saw her, she was in an obvious state of decline, "doin' the dog food" and nodding off seriously.

She has a good heart, and her technique outstanding. If you have info on her I would like to know it.

Giani