"Sugarbabies" / "Arrangements" Amateurs or Not?

Just in general, how much success does everyone have when it comes to talk down a price on a girl. I am starting to notice 2 different scenarios:

1) The girls has mild to major GPS and demands an amount that she read about in new articles or from that call her daddy podcast.

2) Girls who really have no idea what they are doing and also with one foot out the door on entire lifestyle.

Since we are all savy business negotiators, what has everyone's experiences been on getting the price down. I ve had mixed success. I am started off fairly tight about money but have slowly loosen up a bit. Mainly bc I noticed that a lot of SBs actually don't know how to say no. I think what's happening is they just will bookmark your off and just settle on the highest bidder with a mixture of other traits they like. Everyone else will end up getting dragged on as a possible backup or straight get ghosts even though an agreement was reached initially. How much success have everyone had with haggling prices? Is the fight even worth fighting for the long term?

I don't ask for a lower price unless it's crazy. To me it's not question about money. Its if she is worth it. If it's too high I just say sorry that's higher then market value. I would give her my price, and tell her if she interested let me know. If it's with in reason, but still a little high, I will negotiate service. I would ask her to host, that way I save on hotel expense. That's what I'm doing with 1 of my current SBs. If she can't host I would ask for to do all the weird sexual fetishes that I would like to try. Normally these SBs are not keepers. 1-3 dates just to do does fetishes. Thanks, to SBs I have done all my sexual fetishes that was on my bucket list. Well almost all, I haven't try a woman who is lactating. Want to try some milk, but just has a M&G with one today. She even brought her baby to the M&G and breast fed infront of me. Date set for next Thursday. Biggest sexual fantasy is to have a harem. I'm living that live now. 2020 blows, but sexual its been awesome for me.

[QUOTE=Gatsby804;5037794]Just in general, how much success does everyone have when it comes to talk down a price on a girl. I am starting to notice 2 different scenarios:

1) The girls has mild to major GPS and demands an amount that she read about in new articles or from that call her daddy podcast.

2) Girls who really have no idea what they are doing and also with one foot out the door on entire lifestyle.

Since we are all savy business negotiators, what has everyone's experiences been on getting the price down. I ve had mixed success. I am started off fairly tight about money but have slowly loosen up a bit. Mainly bc I noticed that a lot of SBs actually don't know how to say no. I think what's happening is they just will bookmark your off and just settle on the highest bidder with a mixture of other traits they like. Everyone else will end up getting dragged on as a possible backup or straight get ghosts even though an agreement was reached initially. How much success have everyone had with haggling prices? Is the fight even worth fighting for the long term?[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Gatsby804;5037794]Just in general, how much success does everyone have when it comes to talk down a price on a girl. I am starting to notice 2 different scenarios:

1) The girls has mild to major GPS and demands an amount that she read about in new articles or from that call her daddy podcast.

2) Girls who really have no idea what they are doing and also with one foot out the door on entire lifestyle.

Since we are all savy business negotiators, what has everyone's experiences been on getting the price down. I ve had mixed success. I am started off fairly tight about money but have slowly loosen up a bit. Mainly bc I noticed that a lot of SBs actually don't know how to say no. I think what's happening is they just will bookmark your off and just settle on the highest bidder with a mixture of other traits they like. Everyone else will end up getting dragged on as a possible backup or straight get ghosts even though an agreement was reached initially. How much success have everyone had with haggling prices? Is the fight even worth fighting for the long term?[/QUOTE]I lay out what I'm looking for -- I'm married, so its one public meeting for coffee or lunch, followed by (not always immediately) private time meetings going forward, meeting during bankers hours, has to be on in my home city (slim pickins in cville, but I don't travel for work, so theyd have to come here) either she hosts or is willing to book the room in her name, she if she is into anything kinky or not, then I ask what would be the "scholarship / rent subsidy / showcase showdown of cash and prizes" she would expect to join me in such an endeavor on a regular (2 xa month basis).

If they throw out a number, I weigh it against my existing stable of options and costs.

Sometimes they say, "I don't know, what are you offering?" and I usually say "$300" and wait for them to agree or counter. Sometimes Ill go higher (super hot, wants to be tied up and given anal, GND college type who's parents would die if they knew she liked getting railed by someone older than dad. Basic bucket list stuff).

When I travel out of town alone, I look for women up for a multi round slumber party, m but same process.

[QUOTE=Lobsid;5038384]I don't ask for a lower price unless it's crazy. To me it's not question about money. Its if she is worth it. If it's too high I just say sorry that's higher then market value. I would give her my price, and tell her if she interested let me know. If it's with in reason, but still a little high, I will negotiate service. I would ask her to host, that way I save on hotel expense. That's what I'm doing with 1 of my current SBs. If she can't host I would ask for to do all the weird sexual fetishes that I would like to try. Normally these SBs are not keepers. 1-3 dates just to do does fetishes. Thanks, to SBs I have done all my sexual fetishes that was on my bucket list. Well almost all, I haven't try a woman who is lactating. Want to try some milk, but just has a M&G with one today. She even brought her baby to the M&G and breast fed infront of me. Date set for next Thursday. Biggest sexual fantasy is to have a harem. I'm living that live now. 2020 blows, but sexual its been awesome for me.[/QUOTE]I agree I don't haggle and I always say qv at first meeting and it's a loss I can handle if it sux however if she exceeds my expectations then I can always bump up. To me if you talk down then you gunna get talked down service with attitude. I'd rather pay more for a girl whose skills are subpar but makes up for it with enthusiasm then the opposite. Just me YMMV.

[QUOTE=Gatsby804;5037794]Just in general, how much success does everyone have when it comes to talk down a price on a girl. I am starting to notice 2 different scenarios:

1) The girls has mild to major GPS and demands an amount that she read about in new articles or from that call her daddy podcast.

2) Girls who really have no idea what they are doing and also with one foot out the door on entire lifestyle.

Since we are all savy business negotiators, what has everyone's experiences been on getting the price down. I ve had mixed success. I am started off fairly tight about money but have slowly loosen up a bit. Mainly bc I noticed that a lot of SBs actually don't know how to say no. I think what's happening is they just will bookmark your off and just settle on the highest bidder with a mixture of other traits they like. Everyone else will end up getting dragged on as a possible backup or straight get ghosts even though an agreement was reached initially. How much success have everyone had with haggling prices? Is the fight even worth fighting for the long term?[/QUOTE]Just don't!

If she's GPS don't counter, just thank her for her time and walk away. If it's close, just tell her your number and forget about her if it's not to her liking. There is nothing to be gained from protracted back and forth on numbers. This is those that like the non-pro, college girls. If you're dealing with a hardened pro then go ahead and treat it like you're haggling a piece of meat, in the end it won't matter.

On a general note, I'm floored by what some of you guys pay for pussy. Either you're desperate AF or something but paying 3-400 for a bland single mommy of 35yo is simply insane. Good god. For that amount she should be nothing less than a 21 yo, 100lbs hottie.

[QUOTE=EvilTmp;5038690]

On a general note, I'm floored by what some of you guys pay for pussy. Either you're desperate AF or something but paying 3-400 for a bland single mommy of 35yo is simply insane. Good god. For that amount she should be nothing less than a 21 yo, 100lbs hottie.[/QUOTE]Plus once you have points of comparison, don't pay a premium just to nail someone new.

I've got two regulars.

One Asian spinner in college.

One beautiful, built hottie in her late 20's.

Both are BBFS, C whereever I want, 3 input, submissive and bi.

Either are $300 per meet, as long as I can last.

Everyone else is compared to that option and few can compete.

[QUOTE=EvilTmp;5038690]Just don't!

If she's GPS don't counter, just thank her for her time and walk away. If it's close, just tell her your number and forget about her if it's not to her liking. There is nothing to be gained from protracted back and forth on numbers. This is those that like the non-pro, college girls. If you're dealing with a hardened pro then go ahead and treat it like you're haggling a piece of meat, in the end it won't matter.

On a general note, I'm floored by what some of you guys pay for pussy. Either you're desperate AF or something but paying 3-400 for a bland single mommy of 35yo is simply insane. Good god. For that amount she should be nothing less than a 21 yo, 100lbs hottie.[/QUOTE]Be sure you are discussing this in person, at the M&G. It's been said that you'll not FC w / a girl if you don't have an agreement at the end of the M&G. Not strictly true, but close. Girls are much more likely to ask for more by text or email. It always is hard to be rejected in person, she will ask less. I also don't like to get into back and forth about $. I try to stick to 300-350, but if she wants 400 and will do me the favor of getting a room, I'll agree. I have a SO, I appreciate their investment in my discretion.

And, I would never see a bland 35 YO again. My whole goal in the bowl is to fuck high quality pussy. The most I have ever done was 600, for someone I had a personal / emotional investment in. The least, a 150 Cinderella makeup kit (LOL! None of them would ever be thought to be fucking an old guy like me, for dough or otherwise, but they knew what they wanted. This is how you get a good price for high quality. You have to be her kink.

I don't even do a M&G unless SB knows that I'm looking for a FC relationship. The M&G is to verify that we get a long. I get along with everyone. Only had 2 M&G that I got rejected, but those M&G only cost me gas and coffee. I also didn't text those girls much before M&G.

[QUOTE=FarFarAway;5038736]Be sure you are discussing this in person, at the M&G. It's been said that you'll not FC w / a girl if you don't have an agreement at the end of the M&G. Not strictly true, but close. Girls are much more likely to ask for more by text or email. It always is hard to be rejected in person, she will ask less. I also don't like to get into back and forth about $. I try to stick to 300-350, but if she wants 400 and will do me the favor of getting a room, I'll agree. I have a SO, I appreciate their investment in my discretion.

And, I would never see a bland 35 YO again. My whole goal in the bowl is to fuck high quality pussy. The most I have ever done was 600, for someone I had a personal / emotional investment in. The least, a 150 Cinderella makeup kit (LOL! None of them would ever be thought to be fucking an old guy like me, for dough or otherwise, but they knew what they wanted. This is how you get a good price for high quality. You have to be her kink.[/QUOTE]

Just made an account. Now making $100,000 a year. Wanted to find some hot college babes. Is it possible for cheap? Getting back in the game.

It's like any dating site. Set it up like your looking for a long term SB. A fun and easy going, stress free relationship. It's best to be honest if your married or not. Some girls don't care, but others do. Get a burner phone or app.

The current market value is 300-500. Only problem is your going to have to add hotel plus dinner so that's a extra 150-200. Most girls will be looking to meetup at less 2-4 times a month. You can be spending anywhere form 1,000-3,000 a month on a SB. You can cut some of the cost if you looking for girls willing to host at their homes. Normally girls that host are out of the college age. I spend about 3,500 a week, but I have 4 regular SBs and 3 side SBs. I set my earnings to 150,000. All my SBs except 1 thinks I'm their only SB. I want to girls to know I have money to take care of them, but don't think I am made of money. This month alone I meetup with 6 new SBs only keeping 2. 1 is a maybe. The other 3 I made some BS excuses why it not going to work out. I'm a newbie only became a SD because quarantine boredom, but I pickup things fast by reading a few months of forum posting.

Good luck hunting!

[QUOTE=ThatSexyGuy;5040121]Just made an account. Now making $100,000 a year. Wanted to find some hot college babes. Is it possible for cheap? Getting back in the game.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Lobsid;5040314]It's like any dating site. Set it up like your looking for a long term SB. A fun and easy going, stress free relationship. It's best to be honest if your married or not. Some girls don't care, but others do. Get a burner phone or app.

The current market value is 300-500. Only problem is your going to have to add hotel plus dinner so that's a extra 150-200. Most girls will be looking to meetup at less 2-4 times a month. You can be spending anywhere form 1,000-3,000 a month on a SB. You can cut some of the cost if you looking for girls willing to host at their homes. Normally girls that host are out of the college age. I spend about 3,500 a week, but I have 4 regular SBs and 3 side SBs. I set my earnings to 150,000. All my SBs except 1 thinks I'm their only SB. I want to girls to know I have money to take care of them, but don't think I am made of money. This month alone I meetup with 6 new SBs only keeping 2. 1 is a maybe. The other 3 I made some BS excuses why it not going to work out. I'm a newbie only became a SD because quarantine boredom, but I pickup things fast by reading a few months of forum posting.

Good luck hunting![/QUOTE]300-500 sounds fair to smash hot college babes. But geez $3500 a month you must be making $250,000 a year or more. I'm at $100,000 so I'm not looking to spend more than $1200.

Got this message in my inbox today from "classylad".

Some of your reviews of us ladies from SA and STG are pretty nasty. Why do you think I have refused to even see you in person?

BTW. When was the last time you looked at yourself in the mirror??

Plenty of fish in the sea. Girls come and go. Only the semi-pro SBs would know that we're on the SA as much as them. If they have a problem with it then get out of sex work. It's the oldest profession in the world for a reason. Any ways humans are social animals. It makes sense that we would at least interact with each other in some form or another.

[QUOTE=ErnestLl;5040926]Got this message in my inbox today from "classylad".

Some of your reviews of us ladies from SA and STG are pretty nasty. Why do you think I have refused to even see you in person?

BTW. When was the last time you looked at yourself in the mirror??[/QUOTE]

Talking with now trying to set something up.

You spend 3,500 a week? I need to party with you. DM me and I can be your talent manager.

[QUOTE=Lobsid;5040314]It's like any dating site. Set it up like your looking for a long term SB. A fun and easy going, stress free relationship. It's best to be honest if your married or not. Some girls don't care, but others do. Get a burner phone or app.

The current market value is 300-500. Only problem is your going to have to add hotel plus dinner so that's a extra 150-200. Most girls will be looking to meetup at less 2-4 times a month. You can be spending anywhere form 1,000-3,000 a month on a SB. You can cut some of the cost if you looking for girls willing to host at their homes. Normally girls that host are out of the college age. I spend about 3,500 a week, but I have 4 regular SBs and 3 side SBs. I set my earnings to 150,000. All my SBs except 1 thinks I'm their only SB. I want to girls to know I have money to take care of them, but don't think I am made of money. This month alone I meetup with 6 new SBs only keeping 2. 1 is a maybe. The other 3 I made some BS excuses why it not going to work out. I'm a newbie only became a SD because quarantine boredom, but I pickup things fast by reading a few months of forum posting.

Good luck hunting![/QUOTE]