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Great post HF. I had 3 quick items that came to mind.
1. My Chinese wife. So yesterday morning we were in bed (in the apartment we share) and we BOTH finished. She giggles and says "Didi go where? I want MORE! (For those who don't know, Didi is Chinese for little brother.) After a few minutes I complied with her request.
2. On the subject of persistence, best sales guy who ever worked for me (Tom) had an experience with an jerk customer prospect. After many months of trying to get an appointment the guy finally agrees to see Tom. He says I'll give you five minutes. Tom give him his business card and presents our business points for five minutes. Then the guy says Thank you. And tears the business card in half. So Tom hands him another business card and says "Can I have five more minutes?" Well it broke the ice. The guys starts laughing and we got the business.
3. No means no. Years ago at Anna's UTR a forum member (Young Korean man) told a story or FS for free with one of the girls there. The next week, I (an old-er, out of shape guy) saw the girl, she did L1 for $40, but that's where it ended. It its not always about money, sometimes the girl just wants to fuck a hot young guy.
Bob.
[QUOTE=HeadFirst;3888081]Believe it if you want but I don't. I once read a book and one of the nuggets in it was that "No" actually means 'Not yet.' Which makes sense. One of his statements to back that up was not scoring on first dates. That's pretty common. But if we hang in there and don't completely creep them out, usually by the third to fifth date things will change.
Similar here. Let's face it. They're in the sex business whether that's what they want to call it or not. We're usually lying naked on a bed / table and she's touching us. Duh. I promise you that with persistence and friendliness that "No" can / will eventually switch to "maybe next time" to "Ok but don't tell anyone. ".
It's happened to me and I'm sure many others here. Heck, I know a guy thats now banging a woman that was celibate for 20 years. Oh, Hi Bob521. lol. It all depends how much (time and or interest) we want to invest.
I've learned that females will do anything. Yes, that. And that too. And that too. Anything. Anything. Anything. Even the most prudish ones. It blows my mind but it's true. And here's a clue. Money Talks.
Of course, as a disclaimer to all the above written, YMMV. Especially nowadays. Does 'Me Too' ring a bell? But IMHO, "No" doesn't always mean no.
Being an entrepreneur, if there's an account or new customer I want and he says no the first time I pitch him, it doesn't deter me. Just tells me he's not ready yet and to come back another time.[/QUOTE]
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Bless. Rosemont
What a disaster this was. Went there yesterday and was immediately turned off by the check in process. You need to sign in, show I'd, leave license plate number on car, etc. Then you go up elevator and sit in an open waiting room (they rent from Regus office space, so it's a shared office). Therapist was 20 minutes late. Some non-euro granola chick. Lame massage. No extras. Tried to charge me more than quoted price on site. Had to talk to scary looking owner (Zeka? Awful.
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It amazes me how these types of establishments stay open in these cases. Tardiness, bad massage, tried to get more money. Lets not give these types any of our business so they go out of business.
[QUOTE=Pickles13;3890138]What a disaster this was. Went there yesterday and was immediately turned off by the check in process. You need to sign in, show I'd, leave license plate number on car, etc. Then you go up elevator and sit in an open waiting room (they rent from Regus office space, so it's a shared office). Therapist was 20 minutes late. Some non-euro granola chick. Lame massage. No extras. Tried to charge me more than quoted price on site. Had to talk to scary looking owner (Zeka? Awful.[/QUOTE]
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Home Massage
Has any member tried this service?
[URL]http://www.amberstravelingmassage.com[/URL]
I expect legit, but wanted to see if anyone has info.
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A Real Massage
I read about all of the mediocre massage experiences. Just go see Isabela Pomares, period! She gives a massage that is one of the best of any massage therapist ANYWHERE. I don't know her age but most 18 year olds would kill to look half as good as her. Only a happy ending is available and I never go for a topless of bottomless massage bc why torture myself with what's not available.
Just go see her. Nice location near north by the lake. She is beautiful, talented and very intelligent.
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Second this
[QUOTE=CGuy2;3890826]I read about all of the mediocre massage experiences. Just go see Isabela Pomares, period! She gives a massage that is one of the best of any massage therapist ANYWHERE. I don't know her age but most 18 year olds would kill to look half as good as her. Only a happy ending is available and I never go for a topless of bottomless massage bc why torture myself with what's not available.
Just go see her. Nice location near north by the lake. She is beautiful, talented and very intelligent.[/QUOTE]I agree with this. One of the best massages I've had ever and simple HE all for a reasonable price, just don't go in expecting more and you'll be good.
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Logan Tantricas
Been awhile since I've visited LT, and haven't seen anyone discuss here. Has anyone visited recently? Bree from the email I just received caught my eye but wondering if anyone has intel.
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Ip
[QUOTE=CGuy2;3890826]I read about all of the mediocre massage experiences. Just go see Isabela Pomares, period! She gives a massage that is one of the best of any massage therapist ANYWHERE. I don't know her age but most 18 year olds would kill to look half as good as her. Only a happy ending is available and I never go for a topless of bottomless massage bc why torture myself with what's not available.
Just go see her. Nice location near north by the lake. She is beautiful, talented and very intelligent.[/QUOTE]It's been a while. Topless option included lovely Russian food Nisha.
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[QUOTE=Dddubs2;3890864]Been awhile since I've visited LT, and haven't seen anyone discuss here. Has anyone visited recently? Bree from the email I just received caught my eye but wondering if anyone has intel.[/QUOTE]I haven't been in a couple years. It used to be that the $160 included CBJ. Upcharges for FS. It may still be that way, but the reports I've seen describe a limited menu etc. I could be wrong, but I decided I wasn't going to risk $140 plus tip for a HJ.
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[QUOTE=CGuy2;3890826]I read about all of the mediocre massage experiences. Just go see Isabela Pomares, period! She gives a massage that is one of the best of any massage therapist ANYWHERE. I don't know her age but most 18 year olds would kill to look half as good as her. Only a happy ending is available and I never go for a topless of bottomless massage bc why torture myself with what's not available.
Just go see her. Nice location near north by the lake. She is beautiful, talented and very intelligent.[/QUOTE]Adding my 2 cents on this that she's one of the best massage therapist in the city. If you're interested in getting a legit massage followed by a HE, go see her. As others have stated, nothing more than HE so temper your expectations on that.
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Moving from Los Angeles.
Hey guys,
I'll be coming to Chicago on the regular for work and I have no references or idea what the scene is like. Anybody care to share some pointers or tips? I'll be working around Wicker Park. If anybody has questions about Los Angeles I'll do my best to share.
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[QUOTE=E2304;3890895]It's been a while. Topless option included lovely Russian food Nisha.[/QUOTE]Russian finish.
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Here here.
[QUOTE=GMan25;3887340]The conclusion you have come to is flawed. There is no reason to get beyond L1, or receive better service as a reward for being a good (actually dumb) tipper. If they are getting $100 from you for L1, there is no incentive to provide you the market value service for $100. Many times, if you tip with, say a 20% increase over the standard tip amount a few of times ($50 for HJ, instead of the standard $40) you can usually get them to open up a bit and gradually each subsequent. Visit, but it takes time and a couple of visits at each stage. For example, if you receive a good massage, with a good tease, and HJ, then tip $50 a couple of times. On the next visit, try to negotiate, or just ask for their tits out for some, breast play, then tip $60. After a couple of visits more, you may have them nude while they give you HJ, with full roaming allowed. Then tip a little more. Inch them along to eventually finding out where their true ceiling is.
Never over tip in hopes of receiving better service later. They work in the here and now and your tips should be that way too. Why provide $100 service, when already getting $100 for L1 $40-$50 service?[/QUOTE]So true. Another thing I do is be sure to have a bunch of 20's in my wallet and flash them as I'm paying the up front. Usually the amt who charges you is the one you're getting. So they see I have cash to play.
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Isabela Pomares.
Just went to her website. Seems a bit too much for just a HE. I'd expect full service with those prices. Thanks to those that reviewed her. I'm taking a pass on her.
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Fair enough
[QUOTE=RonM;3891286]Just went to her website. Seems a bit too much for just a HE. I'd expect full service with those prices. Thanks to those that reviewed her. I'm taking a pass on her.[/QUOTE]I've seen her quite a bit over the years, and yea it is a little pricey for HE; BUT THE MASSAGE IS AMAZING. There are times I want a real spa quality massage, her hand strength is out of this world for someone of her petite stature, so she definitely gets all of the kinks out, which after a 20 mile run, is exactly what I need.
Happy hunting brothers, stay safe out there!