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WPAD (Weapon of Pussy and Ass Destruction)

A fearsome warhead deployed at close range. Has been designed to penetrate deeply and leave gaping holes in the target. Has also been known to cause involuntary muscle contractions and scramble synaptic pathways. Both which can result in loss of verbal function and induce hysterical screaming. Reports of women having religious experiences while being penetrated by the WPAD have been reported. The safest action for a woman targeted by the WPAD is to immediately drop to her knees, lay down or bend over. Relax, take it and don't forget to breathe.

SubCmdr out.

[QUOTE=ChiGuy606;1517753]"WPAD"? I think I may have missed that one, can you translate?[/QUOTE]

I'm beginning to sound like you Scotty with the ATF in, then out, in, out. But I broke things off with her 8 days ago because W is getting more aware of my techniques and intensifying the pressure. It was very tearful and she pretty much took me seriously and was in the process of moving on. It was excruciatingly sad and I tendered an olive branch requesting a revisiting of my decision. She rebuffed me for a day or two but in the end we spent the night together last PM and were back to our old ways. We had a talk about this risky behavior and have focused on the long run planning to meet a little less frequently but ever so intensely. She even stopped her Birth Control which made me feel good that she didn't have another dick lined up to service her.

Interestingly, she has always made it clear that I am not the guy she could bring home to family and friends because of my age but I am content with the love and affection that she does give me. It is far more rewarding than marriage and the attendant problems that always seem to be there. What a testimony to the state of marriage

Hey guys, first time poster, long time reader. I may or may not be younger than the typical demographic on SA, but I am in my mid-20s, just go out of a fairly long / messy relationship and is not interested in any serious dating. I came across the website sometime ago and thought it might be a good place to start a "straightforward" NSA relationship with someone. My goal would be find a college SB.

So, I was just wondering if anyone has any advice for someone in my situation. I am very fortunate career wise and have a stable job and everything.

Welcome to the sugarbowl!

I'm sure most of the guys here would recommend reading the entire blog from beginning to end and your questions will be answered.

Of note, you are definitely on the young side and are actually in the proper age range of college girls and early 20s. My advice is save your money and get a girl IRL. Us old folks have to pay the youngsters to go out with us unfortunately.

[QUOTE=Supernot; 1519058]Hey guys, first time poster, long time reader. I may or may not be younger than the typical demographic on SA, but I am in my mid-20s, just go out of a fairly long / messy relationship and is not interested in any serious dating. I came across the website sometime ago and thought it might be a good place to start a "straightforward" NSA relationship with someone. My goal would be find a college SB.

So, I was just wondering if anyone has any advice for someone in my situation. I am very fortunate career wise and have a stable job and everything.[/QUOTE]Welcome, Supernot. As Hernando said, reading the forum from beginning (oldest page first) to end is an excellent primer, and it really doesn't take that much effort. I was able to do it in a few hours over a couple of sessions. There is invaluable info here.

I am on the younger side myself, so I (in theory) shouldn't have much trouble picking up women and establishing NSA relationships. There's one catch, though: I'm married. That tends to put a damper on my activities. So I've turned to the sugar bowl for some much needed relief.

You, on the other hand, are free as a bird, my friend. Why not try a little of everything? Hit on girls in bars, join some group activities where the hot ones are known to congregate, join a dating site. Hell, you might even find success on craigslist. The sugar bowl should only be part of a young, unattached man's arsenal.

My only advice at this point (though don't be afraid to come back and ask specific questions after you've done your reading): Don't be afraid of older SBs. You say you're looking for a hot young college babe, but they can be fickle and demanding, even when the gent courting them isn't old enough to be their dad (or grandfather!). Once in a while, you get lucky and find a good one. But here's the thing about the slightly older ones: They know what they want. They know how to get it. And, most important, they often know very well how to keep you happy. Just sayin'.

Welcome again, and keep us informed of your progress.

Regards,

Joe

[QUOTE=JoesParty;1519786]But here's the thing about the slightly older ones: They know what they want. They know how to get it. And, most important, they often know very well how to keep you happy. Just sayin'.[/QUOTE]Just wanted to say thanks for this comment. You made me feel SO much better about turning 33 the other week! We "older" SB's can certainly be a fun bunch! .

And, welcome to the sugarbowl SuperNot! Good luck in your adventures.

Mandy

[QUOTE=SbabyBlog; 1519879]We "older" SB's can certainly be a fun bunch!

Mandy[/QUOTE]I am putting my 2 cents in on this one fellas. West Coast SB is 35, Crisis SB has retuned and is 33, Miss SC SB is 29, and my three current prospects are 34, 35, & 30. It is all a matter of preferences. But, for me experience counts!

SubCmdr Out

[QUOTE=SbabyBlog; 1519879]We "older" SB's can certainly be a fun bunch! .

Mandy[/QUOTE]Yes Mandy that is usually true. My last one was 37 and a gem. Then I had a string of younger ones. And most I had to educate. And then. I found a very young one. Totally with no experience. But she took like a fish to water. Outperforming all the 20 yr olds and now after a few months performing on the level of the 37 yr old. She is moving away for college now. Poor college guys.

I think I've read most women hit their sexual peak at 30-35 years old.

The 2 regulars for me over the past few months were aged 29 & 32, and I am having the best sex right now of my entire life!

In my brief career so far in the Sugar Bowl (the past 10 months) , the oldest SB I've been with is 23. I'm not opposed to older SBs, but it's been my experience that the older SBs (that still look good) often want a much higher allowance than the young 20 year olds (if you ignore the GPSs). Which is understandably since a 30 year-old woman usually has a larger set of bills to pay. Whereas the 20 year olds are usually living with roommates or still live at home.

Also since I'm in my early 30s, many SBs that age consider me to be too young to be a sugar daddy so they pass on me.

Admittedly, I've been more focused on getting young 20 year-olds since that's an age group that would be normally out of reach if I wasn't in the sugar bowl. But it sounds like many of you guys are having great experiences with slightly seasoned SBs, so I'll try to give it another shot.

Now you have caused a stampede of SDs that are all going to be grabbing up the 30-35 yr old talent causing that predictable supply and demand imbalance that drives the market up. Notice that as soon as you popped up and said how old you are, every monger SD on the board is all of the sudden smitten by that age group. I know you have a special following on this board (and I admit I'm one of them) , but you could now be the primary cause of a major shift in SD preferences that could significantly alter the market prices forever. Next time, please just PM me with your advice and leave these guys alone to live and learn for themselves.

Alias

Fellow Bowlers,

I've recently encountered a condition which has been reported in the literature, but with which I wasn't familiar. It is referred to as GPS, or Golden Pussy Syndrome, and I've seen it mentioned several times here on the board. This was my experience.

Patient 11 is a 23 year old caucasian, just shy of 6 feet tall (I'm 6'6", so tall is good) , thin, blonde / blue. Model material, basically. She's a prospective pharmicist entering her last year of undergrad, needing to "pay for college." On SA her "range" is listed as negotiable. We correspond for about two weeks, really hit it off via email, and go out to a nice dinner for our M&G. We have fantastic chemistry, don't discuss the arrangement at all, and the kiss goodnight was. Well, probably inappropriate for a restaurant parking lot.

The next day she writes to say she had a great time, but just to be sure there "aren't any misunderstandings" she asks what my range was for the arrangement. I write back that I see us "getting together a couple times / month, with gifts in the 2. 4 range (again, not a fixed sum every time) if we stay in, and in the 0. 5 to 1 range if we go out." She responds quite enthusiastically.

We set a date for the next weekend, and all is going well until she writes back again to thank me for being so generous with my planned gift, and that with what we'd agreed on she "could literally take care of my school payments completely, and not have any debt." I smell trouble.

I text back that I'm glad she's so happy, but I want to make sure that she "knows my range was in hundreds, not thousands. LOL" Radio silence for two hours. Then a text back that she likes me and enjoyed dinner, but she needs at least $5k / month to make ends meet. She wishes me well, and says goodbye.

So, young patient 11 was thinking she'd be getting at least $5k, and possibly as much as $8k, for a couple visits a month. (keep in mind, I list my NET WORTH as 1-2 mil, and my income as 100-250). No matter how well we got along and enjoyed our text / email conversations, she dropped me like a Chernobyl potato when she found out she was not cashing in.

Gentlemen, GPS is a highly aggressive disease, often leading to delusions. There are, from what I've read, few known treatments other than giving the patient time to recover and set more realistic expectations. The GPS carrier can be difficult to identify, but when recognized should be avoided for fear of disappointment and anger in the victim (read, pot SD).

Now accepting new patients,

Dr. Feelgood

Dear Doctor,

I think possibly something might be in the air.

I recently concluded conversations with a potential. She was in the 'golden' 30-34 year age range, and was very very good looking, but certainly not the best of the best out there.

After a few emails & SMSs I decided to take the first step and ask her what she was looking for. She replied 500-600 if we just have dinner. Anything after dinner would have to 'start' at 1000!

Needless to say, I wished her well with her search.

This is why I prefer to hammer out most of the financial details and expectations before I even meet the SB. It provides early detection of the GPS disease since it makes sure we're in the same ballpark and we don't waste each other's time. My schedule is very tight so I just don't have time to go on a half-dozen M&G that never have the potential of going anywhere. Also there is a segment of SBs that use M&Gs as a way of getting free meals at nice restaurants with a string of SDs. So I like to weed out these SBs as well.

And when I do encounter a GPS over email / txt, I usually give them a quick economics lesson. I tell them a smart SD usually only spends 3-4% of his monthly income on his sugar activities (I know, I know many of us aren't very smart, haha). So if they want a 3-5k monthly allowance, they would need to find a true multi-millionaire that has enough disposable income which isn't tied up in assets. Of course these guys are out there, but the competition is fierce, they often expect model quality and can be very controlling to their SBs. And as soon as they get bored with the SB, they'll drop them as quickly as a hot iron. Then I sell them the appeal of having a small business man as a SD. I tell them how we can still make their life a lot easier by covering some major bills while they can still maintain their independence because we're not looking for a pet like some of the ultra rich SDs.

For new SBs and SBs who aren't exactly "model 10" in looks, this often begins to cure their GPS disease. Usually after a couple of weeks of not finding any realistic pot SDs who are going to pay them 60k a year just to meet twice a month, then they usually start contacting me again. Of course, there are some SBs who are capable of finding lucrative arrangements like that but the vast majority will not. Sometimes splashing some cold water of the hard reality on the SB will bring them down to earth with their expectations.

But us SDs have to keep our expectation in check too. If you're on a M&G with a model material girl or see a profile with photos of an aspiring model, then you have to know she very likely will expect 1-2K per month minimum. She's probably already attracted the attention of high-rollers (not just on SD sites but in real life too) , so if you just offer her a few hundred a month, she'll likely balk at it. Just as the girl next door shouldn't expect to get 60K per year just for being some guy's arm candy, A small business or professional SD shouldn't expect to give just 1. 0 per visit to a top model quality girl or playboy bunny. Know your market.

[QUOTE=John G Smith; 1521614]This is why I prefer to hammer out most of the financial details and expectations before I even meet the SB. It provides early detection of the GPS disease since it makes sure we're in the same ballpark and we don't waste each other's time. My schedule is very tight so I just don't have time to go on a half-dozen M&G that never have the potential of going anywhere. Also there is a segment of SBs that use M&Gs as a way of getting free meals at nice restaurants with a string of SDs. So I like to weed out these SBs as well.

And when I do encounter a GPS over email / txt, I usually give them a quick economics lesson. I tell them a smart SD usually only spends 3-4% of his monthly income on his sugar activities (I know, I know many of us aren't very smart, haha). So if they want a 3-5k monthly allowance, they would need to find a true multi-millionaire that has enough disposable income which isn't tied up in assets. Of course these guys are out there, but the competition is fierce, they often expect model quality and can be very controlling to their SBs. And as soon as they get bored with the SB, they'll drop them as quickly as a hot iron. Then I sell them the appeal of having a small business man as a SD. I tell them how we can still make their life a lot easier by covering some major bills while they can still maintain their independence because we're not looking for a pet like some of the ultra rich SDs.

For new SBs and SBs who aren't exactly "model 10" in looks, this often begins to cure their GPS disease. Usually after a couple of weeks of not finding any realistic pot SDs who are going to pay them 60k a year just to meet twice a month, then they usually start contacting me again. Of course, there are some SBs who are capable of finding lucrative arrangements like that but the vast majority will not. Sometimes splashing some cold water of the hard reality on the SB will bring them down to earth with their expectations.

But us SDs have to keep our expectation in check too. If you're on a M&G with a model material girl or see a profile with photos of an aspiring model, then you have to know she very likely will expect 1-2K per month minimum. She's probably already attracted the attention of high-rollers (not just on SD sites but in real life too) , so if you just offer her a few hundred a month, she'll likely balk at it. Just as the girl next door shouldn't expect to get 60K per year just for being some guy's arm candy, A small business or professional SD shouldn't expect to give just 1. 0 per visit to a top model quality girl or playboy bunny. Know your market.[/QUOTE]John, I tried to trim your quote down to only the "relevant" parts, but found that every word was relevant. Thanks for the great advice!

Still learning.

Dr. Feelgood