Massage Parlor Reports

This is a Sex forum people should have the right to blog what they want to blog. Rememeber freedom of speech .I'm talkin sex and why cops are interfering in me getting any play by scaring all the providers up.I came here to express what i've heard and what i know.This ain't my first rodeo.I'm here to be entertained and to entertain not having to sugar-coat every god damn thing in this fuckin world.Some of you overly sensitives need to take things with a grain of salt.I originally came on to discuss my bad experiences .I mean damn i don't make whole lotta dough and when your spending $70 to $90 dollars a pop and leaving with blue balls and end up having to jerk myself off it gets frustrating and it is getting damn pretty old.Craigslist is alittle scary,Eros and stripclubs is out of my price range,and no offense to some of yaw but SW is just not my thing ( i caught a curable STD from a mexican SW back in the day) so sometimes i'm just fine with a nice sexy rub and tug. If covered FS and BJ was available every now and then i would treat myself if my provider was down.I'm going to have to book me a flight to Costa Rica because O- town is no-sex town.

[QUOTE=Joesjohn]I used to see Deva/Jayden every now and then at her new/old places where she used to work at and always got great finishes up until a few months back.She just cut me off cold and all the woman kept yapping about was leo coming in constantly like one after the other everyday.She even told me that clients have reported to her they've been harrassed by cops .She told me how they do it is license plate # and traced them back to their homes or work. I'm like what the fuck does this have to do with me?I mean don't once a therapist-client have known each other for a while and have taken care of one another,then it's all good.She kept saying next time when it's not so hot .Then next time came around i wanted her( even knowing her old man Dirk knowing everything that goes on in session that she does with everyone anyway) . She pushed me on an old boney asian lady named Shantel or Chanel had no ass or titties(i'm an ass and a titty man but damn at least one or the other.I did get a real good massage and a simple hand release but i did'nt want her, i've seen her but never wanted her.Think she used to work out at Avalon never had her there either.I can understand for the married guys and proffesionals but i'm a single man and need my stuff taken care of.Does anyone know if this place has had any problems?Being harass verbally is one thing but getting the door busted down while you getting your groove on is another.[/QUOTE]


Sounds like pure fiction to me. Let me guess, you are writing a research paper on the best way to insult the intelligence of an entire group of people.

My most recent experience was at International Therapy (US 17/92 near Maitland Ave./next to Thurstons Auto). This is an AMP where they rotate the girls, but the owners/mamasans are constant, and they know me.

For newbies: I find that this is key for the AMPs - get to know the mamasan (some hobbyists even tip the mamasan ahead of time).

I like this place because it is fairly large (maybe 8 massage rooms with hot tubs, a shower table, a real lobby, etc.) and I consistently get good service.

I got a new girl (just transferred from the upper midwest). She was probably around 40, Asian, spinner, and wearing short-shorts and had a great attitude. She did a thorough TS and we moved to the massage room. I just told her how I liked my massage, and she took over. She was a true professional, very interested in paying off her Maersk* fee and make some revenue. I thought it was going to be an ordinary experience, but she took it to a much higher level, without me even having to ask.

I always leave happy, but this visit was very memorable. This is why I feel that being a regular and making sure that the mamasan remembers you positively, leads to an improved experience.

House Fee: $.8
Tip: $.4

*Maersk is an international cargo shipping company: meant as a joke for the illegals that get shipped here in cargo containers.

I went to Ginza a couple of times during the period when Joesjohn claims to have seen an old, latin, hunched backed person named Joy or Choi. I never saw anyone that fit that description. I did see an attractive Asian looking lady. Lilly said her name is Joy.

I know Lilly fairly well and asked her a few questions regarding Joesjohn’s claims.

I asked Lilly if she ever hired an older Latin lady who was hunchbacked, she said no.

On 9/21: Joesjohn said, If I'm not mistaken she did say she was half latin and asian (actually from China not Korea, )

I asked Lilly if Joy is half Latin. Lilly: no.

Me: Is she part Chinese? Lilly: No, fully Korean.

I heard Lilly and Joy speaking. It sounded to me like they were speaking the same language, which would be Korean, since that’s Lilly’s native language.

9/19: Joesjohn: I know she (Lilly) is trying to find girls to work at her soon to be new location out by international Dr. In front of the convention center.

Lilly had previously told me that she does have plans to open a place near the convention center, and she is hiring LMTs. The place will be upscale and strictly legit. She is aware that they will be closely watched by police and she is having the therapists sign a document acknowledging that their work will be strictly within legal and ethical standards.

This is -->not<-- meant as a guarantee on how to get superior service, but it will help the new hobbyist get better service. These suggestions are based upon my years of experience, and may not work for everyone, but will improve the odds in your favor.

General Rules:

1. Not all providers will provide anything but the basic service: ever.
The only way to know is to RTFF here and experience it yourself (TOFTT). Most times, providers have been rated here and you can get a good idea if you can get more than standard service. Some providers provide such a superior legitimate massage that you may keep them on for your legitimate massages. I have a provider that is 100% legit (recently 100% legit) that I enjoy legitimate/no extras massages from.

2. For providers, you may not get the extra service on your first or second visit.
The provider needs to know you first. If you don't creep out the provider, you will know, one way or the other, within the 1st two visits. If after the 3rd visit and you still get nothing, you most likely have your answer. Decide to either move on or live with it.

3. For AMPs: get to know the mamasan/host/owner.
At many AMPs, the girls are rotated frequently. If you go once/month, you may not see the same girl. Usually, the mamasan is always there. She will remember you and will assign a better provider than one of their old cougars. The more you go, the better the service can be.

4. Be polite to everyone.
Providers are people too, and they do a hard job. Many work 6 or 7 days/week and have to see all kinds of jerks. If you are kind, you will get better service. Compliment your provider on something she cares about: her looks, her technique, how nice she is, etc.

5. Tips are appreciated.
If you tip your provider generously (minimum 20%), you will be rewarded next time.

6. Do not discuss anything improper with the mamasan or provider in person or on the phone.
They are usually skittish anyway, and bringing up anything improper will be not received warmly.

7. Each visit is unique.
Do not expect superior service everytime. If you are known, you should leave happy.

8. Arrive clean or else take a shower before the massage
Do not come from work sweating or just after doing outside work. Even if I am clean, I always get the TS first for respect for the provider. If a regular shower is offered, take it. This attentiveness is appreciated.

This is just a quick rundown of common sense and not generally known information that will make your experience a better one. Be safe and happy.

Gentleman 100,

Thank you. It's good to see a post here that is informative, instructive and in the spirit of what we are all here to learn. If I can add one thing to #8 in your list that would be brush your teeth and take a breath mint before your session. I have had a number of of providers both compliment me that my breath is fresh AND THEN comment about how many other customers come in with bad breath.

I have also found that learning a little of their native language (usually Korean) and taking an interest in their country is also very much appreciated. Smiling a lot, softly stroking (NOT groping!) their arm or leg and making a little "ah" or "mmm" sound lets them know you are enjoying the massage and is a good way of complimenting the provider even if she speaks little English.

Finally, I don't know how many times I got a provider who initially didn't look to be my type. But I kept a good attitude and was extra pleasant and eneded up uncovering a hidden gem. It doesn't always work out that way, but it very often does. If I draw a provider with an attitude or some problem (happens rarely) I cut my losses and leave.

Regards,
CB

[QUOTE=Gentleman 100]This is -->not<-- meant as a guarantee on how to get superior service, but it will help the new hobbyist get better service. These suggestions are based upon my years of experience, and may not work for everyone, but will improve the odds in your favor.

General Rules:

1. Not all providers will provide anything but the basic service: ever.
The only way to know is to RTFF here and experience it yourself (TOFTT). Most times, providers have been rated here and you can get a good idea if you can get more than standard service. Some providers provide such a superior legitimate massage that you may keep them on for your legitimate massages. I have a provider that is 100% legit (recently 100% legit) that I enjoy legitimate/no extras massages from.

2. For providers, you may not get the extra service on your first or second visit.
The provider needs to know you first. If you don't creep out the provider, you will know, one way or the other, within the 1st two visits. If after the 3rd visit and you still get nothing, you most likely have your answer. Decide to either move on or live with it.

3. For AMPs: get to know the mamasan/host/owner.
At many AMPs, the girls are rotated frequently. If you go once/month, you may not see the same girl. Usually, the mamasan is always there. She will remember you and will assign a better provider than one of their old cougars. The more you go, the better the service can be.

4. Be polite to everyone.
Providers are people too, and they do a hard job. Many work 6 or 7 days/week and have to see all kinds of jerks. If you are kind, you will get better service. Compliment your provider on something she cares about: her looks, her technique, how nice she is, etc.

5. Tips are appreciated.
If you tip your provider generously (minimum 20%), you will be rewarded next time.

6. Do not discuss anything improper with the mamasan or provider in person or on the phone.
They are usually skittish anyway, and bringing up anything improper will be not received warmly.

7. Each visit is unique.
Do not expect superior service everytime. If you are known, you should leave happy.

8. Arrive clean or else take a shower before the massage
Do not come from work sweating or just after doing outside work. Even if I am clean, I always get the TS first for respect for the provider. If a regular shower is offered, take it. This attentiveness is appreciated.

This is just a quick rundown of common sense and not generally known information that will make your experience a better one. Be safe and happy.[/QUOTE]

These are good guidelines for MP's. That's why I don't use them in US. I don't think they apply for all kinds of working girls.
J
Thanks Sponge for your understanding.
[QUOTE=Gentleman 100]

1. Not all providers will provide anything but the basic service: ever.
The only way to know is to RTFF here and experience it yourself (TOFTT). Most times, providers have been rated here and you can get a good idea if you can get more than standard service. Some providers provide such a superior legitimate massage that you may keep them on for your legitimate massages. I have a provider that is 100% legit (recently 100% legit) that I enjoy legitimate/no extras massages from.

2. For providers, you may not get the extra service on your first or second visit.
The provider needs to know you first. If you don't creep out the provider, you will know, one way or the other, within the 1st two visits. If after the 3rd visit and you still get nothing, you most likely have your answer. Decide to either move on or live with it.

3. For AMPs: get to know the mamasan/host/owner.
At many AMPs, the girls are rotated frequently. If you go once/month, you may not see the same girl. Usually, the mamasan is always there. She will remember you and will assign a better provider than one of their old cougars. The more you go, the better the service can be.

[/QUOTE]

Since today was a raining evening, I decided to inaugurate Fall 2008 with a visit to ToA on my way home from work. I got the South African princess. She enjoys her work and wants to make money (slightly pushy for the tips, but careful and thorough).

I took a pre-massage shower and made sure that I was completely clean. She took care to gently use her fingernails (nice) and after the flip, the massage ended happily. Afterwards, she wiped off the lotion she used for the massage with a hot, wet towel.

I gave the hostess a little company-branded trinket, which was appreciated (partly to be nice, and partly to show I am not a LEO).

House Fee: $.9
Tip: $.4

Be safe and wise.

P.S.: Newbies - Note I used a little less subtle hints, while still not being explicit. Read between the lines.

[QUOTE=Citywalk]Sounds like pure fiction to me. Let me guess, you are writing a research paper on the best way to insult the intelligence of an entire group of people.[/QUOTE]This isn't fiction it was a dream when it happened, or my bad, more like a nightmare. Stop talkin and keep walkin Cityboy.

[QUOTE=JoesJohn]They must have read this (Moonlight went back and reported to Miss. Lily) damn forum and must have switched her out. If I'm not mistaken she did say she was half latin and asian (actually from China not Korea, ) Her hair is black and short, short height like maybe 5 feet tall or less, her upper back curvature protrudes out (hunchback). When I said spaced out she was into some kind of spiritual healing type shit (I ain't used that mess) Deva from Lotus was into that witchcraft shit to). I never said she was'nt nice and a matter fact she gave one of the best legit massages I've ever had. We conversated a bit and she even told me taught massage and spiritual healing. Now boy, breath smelling like mommie's titty milk, I don't here you coming back with details about this lady or about the service you've had. And again it's been a dry pussy getting year this year because of all this cop shit going around. We shouldn't be paranoid of one another on here accusing this and that person being a cop. And it seems like some of you get so attached with your provider. Fuck this shit they make their money and they come and go. Forget the ex and on with the next![/QUOTE]I am new to this board and am reading some of the threads. This guy JoesJohn must be some kind of prevert. Cann't seem to get a girl of his own so he bad mouths all the providers. What he is saying is pure lies. All the AMPs he is mentioning are good establishments and the providers are all professional. Questiion is point is GIinga amd Ms. Lilly. She is a wonderful person and ideats like JoesJohn make is bad for everyone. He does not seem to have a nice word for anyone. JoseJohn, it sounds to me that you can not get any provider to like you. What do you look like a. Hoe. What say you ding dong.

[QUOTE=John Q Public]I am new to this board and am reading some of the threads. This guy JoesJohn must be some kind of prevert. Cann't seem to get a girl of his own so he bad mouths all the providers. What he is saying is pure lies. All the AMPs he is mentioning are good establishments and the providers are all professional. Questiion is point is GIinga amd Ms. Lilly. She is a wonderful person and ideats like JoesJohn make is bad for everyone. He does not seem to have a nice word for anyone. JoseJohn, it sounds to me that you can not get any provider to like you. What do you look like a. Hoe. What say you ding dong.[/QUOTE]Sounds like someone is personally offended. Hummmm.

Additional tip that has worked well for me. Always act like you have been there. Pay close attention to the location of things when you walk into the back so that when they take you to TS, you don't have to be lead. Little things that make it seem like you have been there before make the masseuse more comfortable.

Also, read the forum to find name of provider. Sometimes I like to find the name of someone that I know does not still work there. When they ask who you have seen, tell them its been a while but you have seen "(past provider name)" many times before. This may establish a comfort level.

Just some extra tips.

John

[QUOTE=John Q Public]I am new to this board and am reading some of the threads. This guy JoesJohn must be some kind of prevert. Cann't seem to get a girl of his own so he bad mouths all the providers. What he is saying is pure lies. All the AMPs he is mentioning are good establishments and the providers are all professional. Questiion is point is GIinga amd Ms. Lilly. She is a wonderful person and ideats like JoesJohn make is bad for everyone. He does not seem to have a nice word for anyone. JoseJohn, it sounds to me that you can not get any provider to like you. What do you look like a. Hoe. What say you ding dong.[/QUOTE]I agree with everything you said. JoesJohn is an asshole. Lilly is a lovely person.

[QUOTE=Lokm321]Sounds like someone is personally offended. Hummmm.[/QUOTE]I am not personally offended. I do not even know many of the providers that well. I am just saying that I have been to many of the AMPs that JoseJohn as been to and I have to say that what he says is not true about there AMPd. I just wonder why someone would go out of his way to lie about things. That is not the American way! Maybe he is using reverse psycology to stir the pot. I do not know. He obviously does not want to respond and tell us his position. I am just trying to set the record right. I have no other motives, believe me.

[QUOTE=Tex Cobb]I agree with everything you said. JoesJohn is an asshole. Lilly is a lovely person.[/QUOTE]I am just responding because things that a wrong should be corrected. I do not know many of there AMPs etc that well but I do know I have been to see many of the ones that JoesJohn says he has seen and I know for a fact that they are not what he says they are. Many are professional had give a legitimate service. Nothing like what this guy is saying. He is going out of his way to hurt there people. I have no other reason but to say what is right and what is wrong. I just came to this board yesterday and do not know all of the political things being stated here. I just wan to make my opinion known and move on to a discussion of AMPs that this board is supposed to do, not hurt providers or AMPs.