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Hello all. Many thanks to everyone here who have led the way. Wanted to ask some of the veterans here for some guidance.

1) What is the best way to transition to the FC? Lets say you are out to dinner with a girl, and you want to go back to the FC. How would you propose this to the girl? When I have gone out with girls so far, it hasn't been clear that we would go up on the first meet much less have settled on a dollar figure. How are you guys playing out this key moment where you ask her to go up and you tell her what you will pay her?

2) Ideally, I would like to screen for expectations upfront as much as possible to screen for GPS. When you are messaging with girls, how are you bringing up what you will pay them for sugar? I have tried asking girls what their expectations are but that usually produces a vague response. Do most of you guys come up front with what you are willing to offer per meet, and if so how are you saying this?

Thanks again for everyones help!

Thats very interesting feedback! May I ask how much direct? Like, do you even put out what allowance you are willing to pay? Thanks.

[QUOTE=HollywoodGuy;3029202]I have to say that since I changed my SA profile, in which I made my intentions very very direct, I have been getting some great replies. And from some really nice looking young ladies. Their profiles are ones I may have passed up before. About half are the ones I expect. But the other half are from really sweet looking, young and curious girls I may have just ignored before. Many with the higher expectation amounts that many times turn me off to even messaging them.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Lebruno;3029409]Thats very interesting feedback! May I ask how much direct? Like, do you even put out what allowance you are willing to pay? Thanks.[/QUOTE]Being dirrct is nothing new and should be put in your profile. Use common sence and don't be a dick, or come on like your talking to a hooker. If interested in bdsm say so, subs, or what fetish your looking for. Be polite and don't come off like a monger. Pretty simple stuff, not rocket science.

[QUOTE=JohnHandCock;3029507]Being direct is nothing new and should be put in your profile. Use common sense and don't be a dick, or come on like your talking to a hooker. If interested in bdsm say so, subs, or what fetish your looking for. Be polite and don't come off like a monger. Pretty simple stuff, not rocket science.[/QUOTE]I am looking for subs, but the one I met a couple days ago was a first timer. I suppose after I handed her the cash her status officially changed. But the thrill of the SD sites is to be the first. But there are so many nuances you don't want to be super direct or too vague. It like casting a wide net as opposed to line fishing. My point more clearly made would be to try various levels of directness until you hit the sweet spot. I have changed my profile multiple times and continue to refine my intro and pat answers as I get more feedback. It's an ongoing process.

There is a limit to directness. You might crave DT, but its probably not a good idea to say that on an SD profile. I mostly date black and asian girls (and date white less than 5% of the time) but I don't say that in my profile either. So some things I leave the door open on, and others I get very strict with. Even specifically spelling it out is no guarantee they are gonna be into it. Many times they just like you and feel their other qualities will make up for certain things you were hoping for. Sometimes that works.. like my last date. And sometimes not which is disappointing. But hey, it's all in the game.

[QUOTE=HollywoodGuy;3029690]I am looking for subs, but the one I met a couple days ago was a first timer. I suppose after I handed her the cash her status officially changed. But the thrill of the SD sites is to be the first. But there are so many nuances you don't want to be super direct or too vague. It like casting a wide net as opposed to line fishing. My point more clearly made would be to try various levels of directness until you hit the sweet spot. I have changed my profile multiple times and continue to refine my intro and pat answers as I get more feedback. It's an ongoing process.

There is a limit to directness. You might crave DT, but its probably not a good idea to say that on an SD profile. I mostly date black and asian girls (and date white less than 5% of the time) but I don't say that in my profile either. So some things I leave the door open on, and others I get very strict with. Even specifically spelling it out is no guarantee they are gonna be into it. Many times they just like you and feel their other qualities will make up for certain things you were hoping for. Sometimes that works.. like my last date. And sometimes not which is disappointing. But hey, it's all in the game.[/QUOTE]My profile says looking for something special, looking for a sub. Thats as direct it gets till text mrssage. Just because they say the are doesn't mean they are. Everyone has different definition. Had one girl think a sub was someone who stood in for your sb while on vacation LOL. If they say their sub then I ask to describe what they have done. Then I des ribe what I expect. Either they drop out or we continue. Your first few meetings takes time to feel each other out and get comfortable for most. Now some freaks just jump right in. Depends on the person.

From the last round of POTS that i posted I didn't get any of them. The one I did get I wasn't even thinking about. She just suddenly pulled the trigger. Here is the next round.

19 - and OMG tiny. Under 5 feet.

23 - slender and shy looking - 5.3

18 - asian and curious - 5 feet.

20 - seems the most likely to follow through - 5.2

All young, small and petite or slender.

Well if Pablo Picasso had his "Blue" phase I would venture to say you are on your way to your "Spinner" phase.

[QUOTE=HollywoodGuy;3029808]From the last round of POTS that i posted I didn't get any of them. The one I did get I wasn't even thinking about. She just suddenly pulled the trigger. Here is the next round.

The 19 year old "OMG tiny. Under 5 feet" is the cutest IMHO

19 - and OMG tiny. Under 5 feet.

23 - slender and shy looking - 5.3

18 - asian and curious - 5 feet.

20 - seems the most likely to follow through - 5.2

All young, small and petite or slender.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=HollywoodGuy;3029808]From the last round of POTS that i posted I didn't get any of them. The one I did get I wasn't even thinking about. She just suddenly pulled the trigger. Here is the next round.

19 - and OMG tiny. Under 5 feet.

23 - slender and shy looking - 5.3

18 - asian and curious - 5 feet.

20 - seems the most likely to follow through - 5.2

All young, small and petite or slender.[/QUOTE]Been spending time with my hot Latina. More like BF situation. But Damn HG these are all incredible. Would you be willing to share your new template in PM? I always change my profile to suit my personality but your help through the years has proved invaluable. Here are some I have been Messaging.

[QUOTE=LargeEss;3033242]Been spending time with my hot Latina. More like BF situation. But Damn HG these are all incredible. Would you be willing to share your new template in PM? I always change my profile to suit my personality but your help through the years has proved invaluable. Here are some I have been Messaging.[/QUOTE]So far none of my posted pots has come through. I did get one I wasn't really thinking about earlier in the week. She was a bit overwhelmed but couldn't stop smiling. But when it came time for a repeat on Friday she tried to up the ante to $.5... So I declined and saw my ATF instead. As far as the template, for now I am gonna hold onto that.

[QUOTE=HollywoodGuy;3033432] As far as the template, for now I am gonna hold onto that.[/QUOTE]Who could blame you! Guess it's time to get the creative juices going. .

[QUOTE=LargeEss;3033606]Who could blame you! Guess it's time to get the creative juices going. .[/QUOTE]Write a few good pat answers (that sound conversational) to some commonly asked questions. Its a big time saver.

Sugaring on a budget sucks. I need to make some bank and start fucking the $$ girls.

[QUOTE=HollywoodGuy;3035499]Sugaring on a budget sucks. I need to make some bank and start fucking the $$ girls.[/QUOTE]Welcome to my world Yoast! Name that movie and you win five bucks hahahah. But seriously it does, It is worth while when you score but lot more work it seems. You wrote the book on this shit bro you will be fine.

[QUOTE=HollywoodGuy;3035499]Sugaring on a budget sucks. I need to make some bank and start fucking the $$ girls.[/QUOTE]I hear you loud and clear. I barely even can find SBs in the $$ range. Getting offers for $$$ and $$ per date. Way too rich for my blood. The only ones that are willing to take $. 5 still live with their parents and can't host. I'm giving this until the end of this month and then it is back to regular mongering. Too much work.

[QUOTE=BlackBone;3035834]Welcome to my world Yoast! Name that movie and you win five bucks hahahah. But seriously it does, It is worth while when you score but lot more work it seems. You wrote the book on this shit bro you will be fine.[/QUOTE]Well I am on a mission to get out of this damn recession. Learning how to get the $ girls was and is good training for when I step back into the $$ girls. Because I have already done enough research to know that at $$ they will all be like 8 quality or higher looking girls. Still no guarantee of performance. But even when they don't make it past a date or two, they"re still nicer to look at.