"Sugarbabies" / "Arrangements" Amateurs or Not?

[QUOTE=FanRat;4581449]Anyone have info on this lady? [URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/4cdc84a9-fcb6-4dd8-a89f-0a04b40e37c3[/URL].

I am meeting her for lunch today and she has repeatedly asked that if we click can we get a room after. She wants to do a hotel the first time but then will come to my place for regular meets after that. I kinda follow the logic that she doesn't want to come to my place until we know we will want to see each other regularly but I also think maybe she knows it will just be a 1 time deal. That may be fine too though.

She texted me a few other pics and she is a very pretty young lady.

Thanks and be safe?[/QUOTE]Did you ever meet up with her? Or anyone else? I am getting some serious pro vibes from her. Everything is just so structured. She seems to be fairly high volume?

[QUOTE=TheUntz;4984002]Did you ever meet up with her? Or anyone else? I am getting some serious pro vibes from her. Everything is just so structured. She seems to be fairly high volume?[/QUOTE]We exchanged texts about perfect we were for each other last year. But she was never free to meet up so I got tired of it and moved on to another.

I took about a year break from seeking but decided to sign back up this week to see what options are out there. All I can say is that the options on SA have completely changed and for my preferred SB style it's changed for the worse. My preference is a younger (19-24), petite, white girl next door type. I had tons of luck last year finding and sealing the deal with this exact type sb however I can't seem to find a single one now. The site seems to have been taken over by semi-pro or older (25+) women and they just aren't appealing to me. I really think Onlyfans has killed SA for me as all the younger more attractive women have realized they can make more money without having to leave their bedroom.

I also woke up this morning to an email from SA stating that my account has been suspended and that my profile picture has been denied because it was unclear and I wasn't clearly visible. I'm not really sure what they mean as it's a very clear close up picture of a guy that looks remarkably like me. This photo doesn't come up in any reverse image searches so they didn't get me this way either. They are requiring a copy of my photo I'd with a clear picture of me as well as my name and birthdate. Unfortunately I used all fake information for the sake of anonymity so I think I am screwed out of a month of paid membership. I'm not sure how they caught on as I used all the same information and picture for this account as I did my account last year that was very successful. I believe I sealed the deal with 12 sb's that met my exact criteria in the 3-4 months I was on seeking last year.

Coronavirus messup everything. A lot of college students are at home, so they aren't likely to be on Seeking. Most of my luck has been girls 22 years old plus. They just got out of college and can't find good work.

[QUOTE=ItsAHobby45;4984842]I took about a year break from seeking but decided to sign back up this week to see what options are out there. All I can say is that the options on SA have completely changed and for my preferred SB style it's changed for the worse. My preference is a younger (19-24), petite, white girl next door type. I had tons of luck last year finding and sealing the deal with this exact type sb however I can't seem to find a single one now. The site seems to have been taken over by semi-pro or older (25+) women and they just aren't appealing to me. I really think Onlyfans has killed SA for me as all the younger more attractive women have realized they can make more money without having to leave their bedroom.

I also woke up this morning to an email from SA stating that my account has been suspended and that my profile picture has been denied because it was unclear and I wasn't clearly visible. I'm not really sure what they mean as it's a very clear close up picture of a guy that looks remarkably like me. This photo doesn't come up in any reverse image searches so they didn't get me this way either. They are requiring a copy of my photo I'd with a clear picture of me as well as my name and birthdate. Unfortunately I used all fake information for the sake of anonymity so I think I am screwed out of a month of paid membership. I'm not sure how they caught on as I used all the same information and picture for this account as I did my account last year that was very successful. I believe I sealed the deal with 12 sb's that met my exact criteria in the 3-4 months I was on seeking last year.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=ItsAHobby45;4984842]I took about a year break from seeking but decided to sign back up this week to see what options are out there. All I can say is that the options on SA have completely changed and for my preferred SB style it's changed for the worse. My preference is a younger (19-24), petite, white girl next door type. I had tons of luck last year finding and sealing the deal with this exact type sb however I can't seem to find a single one now. The site seems to have been taken over by semi-pro or older (25+) women and they just aren't appealing to me. I really think Onlyfans has killed SA for me as all the younger more attractive women have realized they can make more money without having to leave their bedroom.

I also woke up this morning to an email from SA stating that my account has been suspended and that my profile picture has been denied because it was unclear and I wasn't clearly visible. I'm not really sure what they mean as it's a very clear close up picture of a guy that looks remarkably like me. This photo doesn't come up in any reverse image searches so they didn't get me this way either. They are requiring a copy of my photo I'd with a clear picture of me as well as my name and birthdate. Unfortunately I used all fake information for the sake of anonymity so I think I am screwed out of a month of paid membership. I'm not sure how they caught on as I used all the same information and picture for this account as I did my account last year that was very successful. I believe I sealed the deal with 12 sb's that met my exact criteria in the 3-4 months I was on seeking last year.[/QUOTE]Condolences. There's no doubt that getting banned or suspended happens more these days. That is why I never completely kill my profiles. I don't have paid memberships, but I have 2 profiles that have been up there for a while, SA seems to be fine with them being inactive. Younger girls actually like someone with a track record in my experience, so I don't have a problem w / a join date a few years back. Whereas we're kinda the opposite. We're looking for the new talent on the site. I and others have posted about getting banned, and how SA can figure out you are the same person they have banned earlier. You really need to change up everything in order to get a new account. You'll have to put together a totally new sugar profile to get a new membership, and it appears that your $$ is gone forever.

About the girls. Of course, everyone's bowl is local, mine is southern California. I have had decent luck, I have had FCs w / a model-quality 26 YO and a GND 30's sub lately, did a 2nd M&G w / a 24 YO sorority girl yesterday. I'd guess she's the sort of target you are looking for, so they're not unicorns, at least around here. I really enjoy the whole newness for the girls like this, this gal is excited simply b / c I am getting a room that isn't Motel 6, and I am bringing mimosas to a morning FC.

Here's a trend I don't like. Why aren't I seeing those other girls? Neither wanted to full-on kiss in the FC. WTF? I never have believed in checking a 'menu' w / a SB, it should pretty much be GFE, but neither of these two acted that way. I guess it's true that you can pass coronavirus by kissing, but being in a hotel room w / them for a few hours is pretty much guaranteed transmission also. I carefully vetted these gals, was confident of their safety, and mine. I recently reconnected with an old POT, she's still the same sexy youngster, but discussed doing street drugs too much for my liking. This isn't a risk-taker I'd like to spend a lot of time with right now.

[QUOTE=FarFarAway;4985031]Condolences. There's no doubt that getting banned or suspended happens more these days. That is why I never completely kill my profiles. I don't have paid memberships, but I have 2 profiles that have been up there for a while, SA seems to be fine with them being inactive. Younger girls actually like someone with a track record in my experience, so I don't have a problem w / a join date a few years back. Whereas we're kinda the opposite. We're looking for the new talent on the site. I and others have posted about getting banned, and how SA can figure out you are the same person they have banned earlier. You really need to change up everything in order to get a new account. You'll have to put together a totally new sugar profile to get a new membership, and it appears that your $$ is gone forever.

About the girls. Of course, everyone's bowl is local, mine is southern California. I have had decent luck, I have had FCs w / a model-quality 26 YO and a GND 30's sub lately, did a 2nd M&G w / a 24 YO sorority girl yesterday. I'd guess she's the sort of target you are looking for, so they're not unicorns, at least around here. I really enjoy the whole newness for the girls like this, this gal is excited simply b / c I am getting a room that isn't Motel 6, and I am bringing mimosas to a morning FC.

Here's a trend I don't like. Why aren't I seeing those other girls? Neither wanted to full-on kiss in the FC. WTF? I never have believed in checking a 'menu' w / a SB, it should pretty much be GFE, but neither of these two acted that way. I guess it's true that you can pass coronavirus by kissing, but being in a hotel room w / them for a few hours is pretty much guaranteed transmission also. I carefully vetted these gals, was confident of their safety, and mine. I recently reconnected with an old POT, she's still the same sexy youngster, but discussed doing street drugs too much for my liking. This isn't a risk-taker I'd like to spend a lot of time with right now.[/QUOTE]Funny update, I sent SA support a copy of my DL with all information redacted except my name and picture. I redacted my birth date although they specifically requested that it be included. They reinstated my account within a couple hours of me sending the email. They didn't question the completely different name on my I'd or the redacted birth date. Back in the game for now I guess.

I always specify prior to meeting sb's that I'm looking for GFE and explain what that means if they don't know. Having a GFE with them is the only thing that allows me to trick my brain into thinking I'm not paying for sex. So far I've found that they all are more than willing to oblige. I guess we will see how it goes with Covid-19. I have a few potentials lined up although they aren't my ideal candidates. I have one 18 yo that I'm trying to work on but I wanted to avoid 18 yo profiles because last time I was on SA I got mixed up with someone claiming they were 18 that was actually 17 and I woke up to a Snap from her LEO dad with a picture of his badge and business card and asked me to call him. Needless to say I was thankful I didn't ever actually meet her.

[URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/2c16ee6a-ac50-4b20-bf70-48f52eb057fc[/URL]

She's from the valley but visiting RVA with friends for the weekend — or at least a cover story for taking her ass on the road.

Even better in person. No BBFS or anal, but amazing bod, face and performance.

[QUOTE=ItsAHobby45;4984842]I took about a year break from seeking but decided to sign back up this week to see what options are out there. All I can say is that the options on SA have completely changed and for my preferred SB style it's changed for the worse. My preference is a younger (19-24), petite, white girl next door type. I had tons of luck last year finding and sealing the deal with this exact type sb however I can't seem to find a single one now. The site seems to have been taken over by semi-pro or older (25+) women and they just aren't appealing to me. I really think Onlyfans has killed SA for me as all the younger more attractive women have realized they can make more money without having to leave their bedroom.

I also woke up this morning to an email from SA stating that my account has been suspended and that my profile picture has been denied because it was unclear and I wasn't clearly visible. I'm not really sure what they mean as it's a very clear close up picture of a guy that looks remarkably like me. This photo doesn't come up in any reverse image searches so they didn't get me this way either. They are requiring a copy of my photo I'd with a clear picture of me as well as my name and birthdate. Unfortunately I used all fake information for the sake of anonymity so I think I am screwed out of a month of paid membership. I'm not sure how they caught on as I used all the same information and picture for this account as I did my account last year that was very successful. I believe I sealed the deal with 12 sb's that met my exact criteria in the 3-4 months I was on seeking last year.[/QUOTE]I know 4 slim 18-25 year old white females that sound like your type that have started Only Fans. Two used to be on Seeking regularly. They are all charging $10 or more per month and one has 900 subscribers. You can do the math, that's over $9,000 per month plus she gets tips and sells private messages on there too. I believe the key for getting subscribers on there is to link it to her Instagram, Twitter or TikTok if she has a lot of followers on there. That seems to be the best way for them to advertise. If a female has less popular social media, it is harder for her to advertise in my opinion. I can't see this lasting though, why are guys paying for pictures when so many sites have unlimited videos for free? I'm thinking it is big now because it is new and because of the the current health situation but I think that site slows down significantly over the next couple years. But yeah, right now some former sugar babies are making enough to be sugar mommas if they wanted to, LOL.

[QUOTE=RegularJoe1985;4983226]Too many posts discussing her.

Following is her new profile (well July).

[URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/7ba0c7af-a285-4d9d-8b29-9f5bc63e8177[/URL][/QUOTE]She is on the cash and dash scam now. Promise the world doesn't deliver anything. She used to be fun. Not any longer.

[QUOTE=Brandon97;4985678]I know 4 slim 18-25 year old white females that sound like your type that have started Only Fans. Two used to be on Seeking regularly. They are all charging $10 or more per month and one has 900 subscribers. You can do the math, that's over $9,000 per month plus she gets tips and sells private messages on there too. I believe the key for getting subscribers on there is to link it to her Instagram, Twitter or TikTok if she has a lot of followers on there. That seems to be the best way for them to advertise. If a female has less popular social media, it is harder for her to advertise in my opinion. I can't see this lasting though, why are guys paying for pictures when so many sites have unlimited videos for free? I'm thinking it is big now because it is new and because of the the current health situation but I think that site slows down significantly over the next couple years. But yeah, right now some former sugar babies are making enough to be sugar mommas if they wanted to, LOL.[/QUOTE]This.

I know a 20-year-old who is only a 7 at best and she makes about 4 k a month with onlyfans. Saw her account with my own eyes. She never shows her face in her videos too, so she doesn't really have to worry about being shamed for it later in life. Guys seem to have no problem plunking down $5-10. And for girls who can drum up volume it's easy money. It's not going away any time soon.

[QUOTE=Lobsid;4984853]Coronavirus messup everything. A lot of college students are at home, so they aren't likely to be on Seeking. Most of my luck has been girls 22 years old plus. They just got out of college and can't find good work.[/QUOTE]And a lot of college girls are home, but keeping their profile active with the location of their college. Some simply say "I hope to be back in January" while others try the 'let's start online' scam. I just block those and move on.

[QUOTE=Brandon97;4985678]I know 4 slim 18-25 year old white females that sound like your type that have started Only Fans. Two used to be on Seeking regularly. They are all charging $10 or more per month and one has 900 subscribers. You can do the math, that's over $9,000 per month plus she gets tips and sells private messages on there too. I believe the key for getting subscribers on there is to link it to her Instagram, Twitter or TikTok if she has a lot of followers on there. That seems to be the best way for them to advertise. If a female has less popular social media, it is harder for her to advertise in my opinion. I can't see this lasting though, why are guys paying for pictures when so many sites have unlimited videos for free? I'm thinking it is big now because it is new and because of the the current health situation but I think that site slows down significantly over the next couple years. But yeah, right now some former sugar babies are making enough to be sugar mommas if they wanted to, LOL.[/QUOTE]Yes I definitely think onlyfans has taken a lot of the grade A younger sb's out of the sugar world. Honestly, most of them were trying to sell pics and vids on SA anyway so onlyfans gives them that forum to do so without having to deal with the guys that want something physical. Personally for me I'd never pay a dollar to one of them to see them naked. Way too much of that available for free to pay for it. Over the weekend I have raised my age searching parameters to 19-27 and have a few potentials I'm working on. I just don't think it will be nearly as satisfying as it was last year when I was fucking 18-19 yo's at will.

[QUOTE=Boredinva11;4986048]She is on the cash and dash scam now. Promise the world doesn't deliver anything. She used to be fun. Not any longer.[/QUOTE]She's doing cash & dash now? That sucks; I've only known her to do incalls at her place and was definitely a good lay. Scratch another one.

[QUOTE=Tidad;4986851]She's doing cash & dash now? That sucks; I've only known her to do incalls at her place and was definitely a good lay. Scratch another one.[/QUOTE]I just reached out to her on seeking about seeing her again and she said I could come see her at her place again whenever I want so I don't think cash and dash is what she's pulling with everyone. I have no plan to see her as the only thing I'd pay her to do is BBBJCIM and she refuses to give a BJ for longer than a few minutes.

[QUOTE=ItsAHobby45;4986909]I just reached out to her on seeking about seeing her again and she said I could come see her at her place again whenever I want so I don't think cash and dash is what she's pulling with everyone. I have no plan to see her as the only thing I'd pay her to do is BBBJCIM and she refuses to give a BJ for longer than a few minutes.[/QUOTE]She said she will make it up. Will see.