Every mile their is another Rub and Tug on Plainfield and probably 20-30 scattered around Grand Rapids.
They are obvious and don't hide.
Why just Milan?
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Every mile their is another Rub and Tug on Plainfield and probably 20-30 scattered around Grand Rapids.
They are obvious and don't hide.
Why just Milan?
[QUOTE=BluBalls1;7349982]Every mile their is another Rub and Tug on Plainfield and probably 20-30 scattered around Grand Rapids.
They are obvious and don't hide.
Why just Milan?[/QUOTE]No massage license for business, red flag 1. No licensed masseuses, red flag 2. High foot traffic, red flag 3. Nearby businesses questioning activity, red flag 4. Non AMP, red flag 5. The AMPs don't want white women running competing businesses. Promotion on USA by nice guys garners more visibility to LEO, red flag 6.
The non licensing part was a good start to tip someone off. If silent observer was indeed used they would look into the claim. I heard but cannot confirm a woman who worked there got picked up and said she was having her work guys to pay for something, which falls under trafficking. Another said Milan was charging the women too much money and would charge them if they didn't show up on time, so you have an illegal unlicensed business also violating employee protection laws without having legal contracted workers on staff. The thing you are pointing out is the reason these other women stupidly enter the same space because they think if someone else gets away with it they should too. Dumb logic there. Her plea deal was poorly negotiated and she gets to pay for that or play nice with law enforcement and put others at risk.
[QUOTE=FeSideoiler;7349667]I have seen Cici a number of times and I agree she is very beautiful, with some great tattoo's. Very thin and sexy and not in an anorexic way. She will allow roaming with an HE, maybe pull her sweats down to her knees for better roaming. She doesn't have a great technique, more of a jackhammer, but gets the job done. I believe she is the only girl working here.[/QUOTE]What's the damage?
Thanks!
Dj.
I haven't been able to find a name or any reviews for this one. Do any of you guys have any experience with her?
[URL]https://skipthegames.com/posts/grand-rapids/female-escorts/caucasian_w/the-most-satisfying-massage-ex/078175909048[/URL]
[QUOTE=BeanLicker;7350108]No massage license for business, red flag 1. No licensed masseuses, red flag 2. High foot traffic, red flag 3. Nearby businesses questioning activity, red flag 4. Non AMP, red flag 5. The AMPs don't want white women running competing businesses. Promotion on USA by nice guys garners more visibility to LEO, red flag 6.
The non licensing part was a good start to tip someone off. If silent observer was indeed used they would look into the claim. I heard but cannot confirm a woman who worked there got picked up and said she was having her work guys to pay for something, which falls under trafficking. Another said Milan was charging the women too much money and would charge them if they didn't show up on time, so you have an illegal unlicensed business also violating employee protection laws without having legal contracted workers on staff. The thing you are pointing out is the reason these other women stupidly enter the same space because they think if someone else gets away with it they should too. Dumb logic there. Her plea deal was poorly negotiated and she gets to pay for that or play nice with law enforcement and put others at risk.[/QUOTE]There would've been no case if some staff (and possibly a disgruntled monger) hadn't helped the prosecutor, red flag 7.
And part of the reason she got such a long sentence was her refusal to give up names. You're constantly criticizing her while consistently omitting the fact that she's doing this time in part because she didn't take the path of least resistance, which would've worked out way better for her.
[QUOTE=OhDirtyBastard;7350533]There would've been no case if some staff (and possibly a disgruntled monger) hadn't helped the prosecutor, red flag 7.
And part of the reason she got such a long sentence was her refusal to give up names. You're constantly criticizing her while consistently omitting the fact that she's doing this time in part because she didn't take the path of least resistance, which would've worked out way better for her.[/QUOTE]You don't do a year in county for what she did regardless of giving up names. Find any individual in the states who got a year for being a hooker and I'll stand corrected. She took a shit plea deal. Watch the video and feel sorry for her but you hang with snakes you get bit sometimes too. Who she knows is still at risk until she's out on probation she could flip CI for less time. Nice guys watch out and be safe.
[QUOTE=DustinLee;7350525]I haven't been able to find a name or any reviews for this one. Do any of you guys have any experience with her?
[URL]https://skipthegames.com/posts/grand-rapids/female-escorts/caucasian_w/the-most-satisfying-massage-ex/078175909048[/URL][/QUOTE]Search Sicily.
[QUOTE=Cj357;7350861]Search Sicily.[/QUOTE]I'm pretty sure this is a different provider than Sicily.
[QUOTE=BeanLicker;7350108]No massage license for business, red flag 1. No licensed masseuses, red flag 2. High foot traffic, red flag 3. Nearby businesses questioning activity, red flag 4. Non AMP, red flag 5. The AMPs don't want white women running competing businesses. Promotion on USA by nice guys garners more visibility to LEO, red flag 6.
The non licensing part was a good start to tip someone off. If silent observer was indeed used they would look into the claim. I heard but cannot confirm a woman who worked there got picked up and said she was having her work guys to pay for something, which falls under trafficking. Another said Milan was charging the women too much money and would charge them if they didn't show up on time, so you have an illegal unlicensed business also violating employee protection laws without having legal contracted workers on staff. The thing you are pointing out is the reason these other women stupidly enter the same space because they think if someone else gets away with it they should too. Dumb logic there. Her plea deal was poorly negotiated and she gets to pay for that or play nice with law enforcement and put others at risk.[/QUOTE]Without knowing all the facts, on its face this whole mess seems a bit off. From the arrest to sentencing. My past gives me an inside advantage point in such matters and what occurred just doesn't fit the norm, especially given from what I recall her place wasn't FS. And clearly there was no trafficking. Normally she wouldn't have spent any time in jail. So yeah, poorly negotiated plea deal or there is more to the story.
[QUOTE=DustinLee;7350525]I haven't been able to find a name or any reviews for this one. Do any of you guys have any experience with her?
[URL]https://skipthegames.com/posts/grand-rapids/female-escorts/caucasian_w/the-most-satisfying-massage-ex/078175909048[/URL][/QUOTE]Been reviewed several times. Went by Sicily and mostly bad reviews.
[QUOTE=Moonglow913;7351005]Without knowing all the facts, on its face this whole mess seems a bit off. From the arrest to sentencing. My past gives me an inside advantage point in such matters and what occurred just doesn't fit the norm, especially given from what I recall her place wasn't FS. And clearly there was no trafficking. Normally she wouldn't have spent any time in jail. So yeah, poorly negotiated plea deal or there is more to the story.[/QUOTE]I agree. Something is off on this whole deal. It doesn't appear her attorney did her any favors. My main question is why was she singled out, and what made her a target. There's a whole section devoted just for escorts, along with some listings in the massage section that say everything is available. So if prostitution is such an evil thing, why go after a massage parlor where on occasion one might encounter an isolated FS, and instead go after those blatantly openly advertising escorts.
Looking for the Massage Parlor Reports and somehow stumbled into the Law Review section! Dang Computer! Better do a reboot!
[QUOTE=MrCruzer;7351430]I agree. Something is off on this whole deal. It doesn't appear her attorney did her any favors. My main question is why was she singled out, and what made her a target. There's a whole section devoted just for escorts, along with some listings in the massage section that say everything is available. So if prostitution is such an evil thing, why go after a massage parlor where on occasion one might encounter an isolated FS, and instead go after those blatantly openly advertising escorts.[/QUOTE]Man quit acting like she is your sister. They know the risk just like we do. You weren't her friend just a means to an end.
[QUOTE=MrCruzer;7351430]I agree. Something is off on this whole deal. It doesn't appear her attorney did her any favors. My main question is why was she singled out, and what made her a target. There's a whole section devoted just for escorts, along with some listings in the massage section that say everything is available. So if prostitution is such an evil thing, why go after a massage parlor where on occasion one might encounter an isolated FS, and instead go after those blatantly openly advertising escorts.[/QUOTE]I've personally never seen Milan nor have I ever even graced the doorsteps of JD, so take my 2 cents with a massive grain of salt.
But just from hearing the details with the initial bust and the fallout after, my gut has been shooting off the red "this is revenge" flags heavily, and even more so with recent details. Just something about all of this and the charges brought scream "personal vendetta" to me. Even accounting for the attempt to get the client list, I think that's more a matter of opportunity than motivation. I mean, what better way to make this look like a proper sting instead of settling a score? AND you can obtain a list of johns to bust to add to the rap sheet, win-win.
Seems like this was all more about punishing Milan specifically with busting a shady massage parlor being a secondary, albeit rather useful, front to justify it. But that's just my conspiracy.
Does anyone know if Seven Day Spa offers a table shower or any shower?
Which door do you enter? I see a ramp right of the parking lot but a door on the left side of the building next to the the driveway.
Any other feedback would be greatly appreciated. I like the discreet location compared to other high traffic locations.