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[QUOTE=B Beall; 1344528]It's legal in Canada. It's legal in Mexico. It's legal across Western Europe, excepting Iceland and Sweden. It's legal in every country in South America except Guyana and Suriname, where the law isn't enforced. Legal in Israel, and in India.

This supposed "vast majority" of people amounts to 52% of the population, l[/QUOTE]Legal in some places doesn't mean everyone's doing it, or ok with it. Just those governments take a different view of it like those of us here wish our government would. As far as this 52% number, I'd like to see the math on that.

Through with this. Both sides of the high end provider argument have a valid point. While a provider is free to set her prices, the customer is worried that the total market will go to higher prices if too many providers increase prices. I say that if the market does go higher, the demand for providers will go down and thus the prices will recorrect themselves.

[QUOTE=Chelli4me;1344614]Legal in some places doesn't mean everyone's doing it, or ok with it. Just those governments take a different view of it like those of us here wish our government would.[/QUOTE]Hold up. First "some places" = almost the whole of Western Civilization except the United States, including one step beyond our borders in either direction. Second, you didn't say "not everyone's doing it", which is a given; you said it "wasn't normal", and the first piece of evidence you offered for that was that it was illegal. So, apparently, in the US the law reflects some basic principle about human behavior, while in the rest of the world it's just the acts of "those governments". But the truth is clearly the opposite: it's the US, where backwoods theology has such political clout, that throws people into prison for doing something as old and as natural as any human behavior you can name. Most everyone else has caught up with the 20th century by now.

But you weren't offering to debate the World Almanac or statistical analysis. You said it "wasn't normal" so you could say, again, that anyone who has a nice word to say about providers is delusional. It's your opinion, and you're welcome to it, and, as I've said before, I frequently admire your style in defending it. But it swims against the tide of common sense, in an ocean of people who do believe providers can be honest, caring, and true friends. And worth every penny. As such you really ought to just remain secure in your knowledge that you're sharper than the rest of us, and cut out the unlicensed psychoanalysis.

[QUOTE]As far as this 52% number, I'd like to see the math on that.[/QUOTE]From this August:

[url]http://today.yougov.com/news/2011/08/25/68-favor-legalized-gambling-39-would-legalize-pros/[/url]

[QUOTE=B Beall;1344148]Yeah, except that isn't what everybody is saying. Some seem to think that Abby has no right to charge more than Taco Bell. Worse, they imagine they can review the establishment without ever having been there.[/QUOTE]BB you have explained in three sentences what most everyone has argued about in paragraphs and novels. I take my hat off to you. The one on my big head not my little head. What's worse is they want the smorgasbord of Fogo de Chao at the Taco Bell price.

FF.

PS.

[QUOTE=IrishLaddie;1344163]I don't have to have her get on her knees and have her look up at me so I feel superior.[/QUOTE]I do, because there is no sight better in this world than watching a woman with freckles on her face, chest, shoulders and back, on her knees looking up at me while providing me with a BBBJTC. It's hot!

Fellow hobbyists, colleagues, constituents,

After our hour-long session last week, I was walking out of a provider's incall location, and she started to hug me. I asked "What the hell are you doing"? And she said "Thanks," and "hope to see you next week." I replied "No, that's not what I'm talking about. I don't hug after we're done. A simple handshake is fine." She knows what I'm referring to if she's reading this (and yes some of them do read these posts). I hope she wasn't offended as I walked out the door after shaking her hand and answering my cell phone. And that's when the idea popped into my head. I want to post a PSA to others who've either just joined the hobby or have been in the hobby a long time, reminding them that this is a business, nothing more, nothing less. So this post is for fellow hobbyists.

I'm not writing this to offend anyone, and I'm not mentioning names or other Web sites.

Some of you don't need a reminder (I in fact needed to remind myself of this a few months ago). But I've recently read on other Web sites where a few of you are "infatuated" with a provider or two, and even "care" for them. The quoted words aren't mine. Heck, the other day I read on a Louisville board on this site about a guy seeking advice on asking a provider out for a drink. Geez, that's swell. What some of you fail to realize is that you, as hobbyists, should have the same approach as the provider, no matter how hot she is and no matter how hot the GFE. The approach should be ALL business. What I mean is grow some fucking bawls. I was married for almost 10 years (I have a best-selling biography about my ex; it's called "See You In Tea") and I've been a part of the hobby for about 14 years since I divorced her dumb, lazy ass. I consider "hooking up" with a hottie a special type of "pamper" session for myself, like when a chick gets a couple hours at a spa or salon, like a place to unwind with a couple glasses of wine followed by a massage or whatever the fuck they do there. But I still take a business approach to this hobby. Once you approach this as a business, like ALL providers do, then this hobby will be a blast. If anyone of you consider "hooking up" as anything more than that, then you have a problem. These fine women have lives and while they cherish the consistency of a good regular, they have mouths to feed and businesses to run. Top providers have to market themselves, answer phone calls / texts, balance different budgets (advertising, phone bills, hotel rooms, clothing, etc.) to make their business work, and then find time to spend with family / loved ones. They don't have it easy.

Sure, I've gotten on here and written "woman that I love" and "girl of my dreams," and blah, blah, blah. That's all bullshit, nothing more. When providers text you with similar phrases, it's again just that: bullshit. They're thinking business and so should you.

When you've been doing this for as long as I have, you should know how to separate fantasy and reality. I've been single since the mid-1990s. After that horrible decade in my life when I had to wear a ball and chain (remember to check out my book). Being single has allowed me to text back-and-forth to a couple providers when I'm out and about. Like out at a titty bar or at BW3s. It allows them to answer my texts whenever they want with no haggling wife to ask me "Who the fuck is texting you at 2 in the morning?" So just remember, we have some quality providers in central Indiana, and learning how to "separate" is essential. Once you've mastered the business approach, even with a regular, the hobby will be most enjoyable. But if you think anything can develop from a "friendship" or "drinks" with a provider, and you "care" deeply for them, then you should take some of your hard-earned dough that you spend on this hobby and get some professional help. And I'm not saying it's not cool to hug a provider as you're walking out. It's just part of my personal business approach.

So remember the following phrase: If you can't separate, masterbate.

Oh, and to the provider I talked about in my opening sentence, if you're reading this, you're fired. Nothing personal.

This has been a public service announcement for fellow hobbyists.

Trying to keep it real,

BFDeal

[QUOTE=BFDeal; 1344741]Fellow hobbyists, colleagues, constituents,

After our hour-long session last week, I was walking out of a provider's incall location, and she started to hug me. I asked "What the hell are you doing"? And she said "Thanks," and "hope to see you next week." I replied "No, that's not what I'm talking about. I don't hug after we're done. A simple handshake is fine." She knows what I'm referring to if she's reading this (and yes some of them do read these posts). I hope she wasn't offended as I walked out the door after shaking her hand and answering my cell phone. And that's when the idea popped into my head. I want to post a PSA to others who've either just joined the hobby or have been in the hobby a long time, reminding them that this is a business, nothing more, nothing less. So this post is for fellow hobbyists.

I'm not writing this to offend anyone, and I'm not mentioning names or other Web sites.

Some of you don't need a reminder (I in fact needed to remind myself of this a few months ago). But I've recently read on other Web sites where a few of you are "infatuated" with a provider or two, and even "care" for them. The quoted words aren't mine. Heck, the other day I read on a Louisville board on this site about a guy seeking advice on asking a provider out for a drink. Geez, that's swell. What some of you fail to realize is that you, as hobbyists, should have the same approach as the provider, no matter how hot she is and no matter how hot the GFE. The approach should be ALL business. What I mean is grow some fucking bawls. I was married for almost 10 years (I have a best-selling biography about my ex; it's called "See You In Tea") and I've been a part of the hobby for about 14 years since I divorced her dumb, lazy ass. I consider "hooking up" with a hottie a special type of "pamper" session for myself, like when a chick gets a couple hours at a spa or salon, like a place to unwind with a couple glasses of wine followed by a massage or whatever the fuck they do there. But I still take a business approach to this hobby. Once you approach this as a business, like ALL providers do, then this hobby will be a blast. If anyone of you consider "hooking up" as anything more than that, then you have a problem. These fine women have lives and while they cherish the consistency of a good regular, they have mouths to feed and businesses to run. Top providers have to market themselves, answer phone calls / texts, balance different budgets (advertising, phone bills, hotel rooms, clothing, etc.) to make their business work, and then find time to spend with family / loved ones. They don't have it easy.

Sure, I've gotten on here and written "woman that I love" and "girl of my dreams," and blah, blah, blah. That's all bullshit, nothing more. When providers text you with similar phrases, it's again just that: bullshit. They're thinking business and so should you.

When you've been doing this for as long as I have, you should know how to separate fantasy and reality. I've been single since the mid-1990s. After that horrible decade in my life when I had to wear a ball and chain (remember to check out my book). Being single has allowed me to text back-and-forth to a couple providers when I'm out and about. Like out at a titty bar or at BW3s. It allows them to answer my texts whenever they want with no haggling wife to ask me "Who the fuck is texting you at 2 in the morning?" So just remember, we have some quality providers in central Indiana, and learning how to "separate" is essential. Once you've mastered the business approach, even with a regular, the hobby will be most enjoyable. But if you think anything can develop from a "friendship" or "drinks" with a provider, and you "care" deeply for them, then you should take some of your hard-earned dough that you spend on this hobby and get some professional help. And I'm not saying it's not cool to hug a provider as you're walking out. It's just part of my personal business approach.

So remember the following phrase: If you can't separate, masterbate.

Oh, and to the provider I talked about in my opening sentence, if you're reading this, you're fired. Nothing personal.

This has been a public service announcement for fellow hobbyists.

Trying to keep it real,

BFDeal[/QUOTE]Well now. I am old enough to remember when hugging was different than it is today. I mean you now see grown men hug each other over a great golf shot, trophy dear or the president hug everyone in sight; I would agree that I find all that somewhat odd BUT a provider with whom I have been naked with and shared, well you know, I find a hug standard and very acceptable. We all realize it's business, but did your marriage make you that cantankerous? Give out a hug - It's Christmastime!

F / I

[QUOTE=BFDeal; 1344741]Fellow hobbyists, colleagues, constituents,

After our hour-long session last week, I was walking out of a provider's incall location, and she started to hug me. I asked "What the hell are you doing"? And she said "Thanks," and "hope to see you next week." I replied "No, that's not what I'm talking about. I don't hug after we're done. A simple handshake is fine." She knows what I'm referring to...[/QUOTE]That happened to me once too! A well known provider hugged me afterwards and I said,"What do you think you're doing?". And she gave me my wallet back.

[QUOTE=B Beall; 1344711 Second, you didn't say "not everyone's doing it", which is a given; you said it "wasn't normal", and the first piece of evidence you offered for that was that it was illegal. For doing something as old and as natural as any human behavior you can name.

You said it "wasn't normal" so you could say, again, that anyone who has a nice word to say about providers is delusional. But it swims against the tide of common sense, in an ocean of people who do believe providers can be honest, caring, and true friends. Just remain secure in your knowledge that you're sharper than the rest of us, and cut out the unlicensed psychoanalysis.[/QUOTE]

Certainly sexual behavior is normal. The not normal part I was referring to, and that anyone with any amount of common sense would realize, is that paying for sex is abnormal. Yes there are those that would say youpay for sex even with your wife / girlfreind by paying household bills, buying gifts, mowing the lawn putting up with in-laws yadda yadda yadda. Sure it can be looked at that way but when you get married you know what you're in for so if you don't want that don't get married.

I've never said anyone that has a nice word about providers is delusional. I've had plenty of nice words for many of the gals I've seen over the years. I've known some real sweethearts. Some have even said to me "it doesn't always have to be about sex, we can get together for dinner or a movie if you want." So, I tried that. Not once was such an offer accepted. The reason is obvious. They weren't getting paid for it. I won't pay a gal to go to dinner with me. That is not friendship. Those of you that think you have real friendships with a provider, see how long she remains your friend if you never give her another dime.

And no, I'm not sharper than anyone. In fact I consider myself duller than a butter knife. I can't even always get the quote thing to work right! I'm not psychoanalying anyone, just rendering opinions. How anyone chooses to interpret them is beyond my control.

[QUOTE=Obama;1344807]That happened to me once too! A well known provider hugged me afterwards and I said,"What do you think you're doing?". And she gave me my wallet back.[/QUOTE]Thats a good one Mr. President.

On a serious note, I was in a AMP in Louisville Friday, a regular place I like to visit often. While on my stomach the lady asked me if I wanted to do somthing with her on Christmas. I asked what she would like to do, she said dosn't matter its up to me surprise her. I thought this was humorous for awhile then I thought it sad that she would have to ask. We should be thankful of the family and friends that we have to spend holidays with because there are others that are not as fortunate.

Happy holidays to all.

TN

[QUOTE=Obama;1344807]That happened to me once too! A well known provider hugged me afterwards and I said,"What do you think you're doing?". And she gave me my wallet back.[/QUOTE]Spit beer threw my nose when I read this.

[QUOTE=BFDeal;1344741]So remember the following phrase: If you can't separate, masterbate.[/QUOTE]Two-sided sword. There may be a lot of guys who confuse providing with personal attraction; I imagine any provider who's seen more than two clients can confirm that. And what's the worst that happens to such fellows? A provider uses the attitude to get him to see her more often? He buys her diamonds? Self-inflicted, and exchanged in his mind for something of equal or greater value. So maybe he regrets it later. So what?

There's also the guy who can't separate his RL attitude about women, or sex, or money, from providing. Maybe at most he misses out on having a closer personal relationship with someone, which he doesn't care to have anyway, and which might, or might not, have led to a special chemistry, or special considerations. Again, no big deal. The only reason I'd argue the point is when you or Chelli act as though your own opinions are universal verities.

The reason we keep having this argument isn't guys posting "Abby is worth 10K, and anyone who doesn't agree she farts eau de cologne is probably gay". Nobody says that. It's the regular tub-thumping about all providers being thieves because they won't see some mope for whatever he'd like to spend. It's the bi-monthly lectures on the free market as told by guys who have no idea what they're talking about. And it's the gratuitous bashing of a provider by guys who've never seen her, simply because they don't like her rates and imagine themselves the vanguard of some boycott movement that'll take her arrogant ass down a peg or two. That's not just fucking delusional; it's also a detriment to the hobby, since it gives providers-who bear the largest part of the LE risk, almost all of the physical risk, and 100% of the financial risk-even more reason to be suspicious of hobbyists. And gives any newbie readers the wrong impression about behavior.

I'm just dumbfounded, really, that on a board dedicated to swapping information about the hobby, so many hobbyists seem to imagine the biz would be improved if only we could get the providers out of it. There's no problem with someone taking a professional attitude, if that's right for him; there's no problem with someone thinking that no provider is worth $$ *to him* If someone thinks every provider is a money-hungry harpy who can't hold a real job, well, we've got a long history of giving people the freedom to believe whatever they wish, regardless of the ton of evidence allied against them. But going out of your way to bash a provider you've never seen is just using this board as a psychiatric Free Clinic, and it's not good for anyone else in the hobby.

I'm sorry but I think a nice hug when your leaving and or a kiss don't mean that we are a special couple. I thinks is part of the GFE that you get as a hobbies. I know is business for them as it is for me but you go to a store were customer service is good. If service is good your returne and give them yo business. Same thing with providers if they make you feel special during the time you spend with them hou return. Is just a huge not a marriage.

[QUOTE=BFDeal; 1344741]Fellow hobbyists, colleagues, constituents,

After our hour-long session last week, I was walking out of a provider's incall location, and she started to hug me. I asked "What the hell are you doing"? And she said "Thanks," and "hope to see you next week." I replied "No, that's not what I'm talking about. I don't hug after we're done. A simple handshake is fine." She knows what I'm referring to if she's reading this (and yes some of them do read these posts). I hope she wasn't offended as I walked out the door after shaking her hand and answering my cell phone. And that's when the idea popped into my head. I want to post a PSA to others who've either just joined the hobby or have been in the hobby a long time, reminding them that this is a business, nothing more, nothing less. So this post is for fellow hobbyists.

I'm not writing this to offend anyone, and I'm not mentioning names or other Web sites.

Some of you don't need a reminder (I in fact needed to remind myself of this a few months ago). But I've recently read on other Web sites where a few of you are "infatuated" with a provider or two, and even "care" for them. The quoted words aren't mine. Heck, the other day I read on a Louisville board on this site about a guy seeking advice on asking a provider out for a drink. Geez, that's swell. What some of you fail to realize is that you, as hobbyists, should have the same approach as the provider, no matter how hot she is and no matter how hot the GFE. The approach should be ALL business. What I mean is grow some fucking bawls. I was married for almost 10 years (I have a best-selling biography about my ex; it's called "See You In Tea") and I've been a part of the hobby for about 14 years since I divorced her dumb, lazy ass. I consider "hooking up" with a hottie a special type of "pamper" session for myself, like when a chick gets a couple hours at a spa or salon, like a place to unwind with a couple glasses of wine followed by a massage or whatever the fuck they do there. But I still take a business approach to this hobby. Once you approach this as a business, like ALL providers do, then this hobby will be a blast. If anyone of you consider "hooking up" as anything more than that, then you have a problem. These fine women have lives and while they cherish the consistency of a good regular, they have mouths to feed and businesses to run. Top providers have to market themselves, answer phone calls / texts, balance different budgets (advertising, phone bills, hotel rooms, clothing, etc.) to make their business work, and then find time to spend with family / loved ones. They don't have it easy.

Sure, I've gotten on here and written "woman that I love" and "girl of my dreams," and blah, blah, blah. That's all bullshit, nothing more. When providers text you with similar phrases, it's again just that: bullshit. They're thinking business and so should you.

When you've been doing this for as long as I have, you should know how to separate fantasy and reality. I've been single since the mid-1990s. After that horrible decade in my life when I had to wear a ball and chain (remember to check out my book). Being single has allowed me to text back-and-forth to a couple providers when I'm out and about. Like out at a titty bar or at BW3s. It allows them to answer my texts whenever they want with no haggling wife to ask me "Who the fuck is texting you at 2 in the morning?" So just remember, we have some quality providers in central Indiana, and learning how to "separate" is essential. Once you've mastered the business approach, even with a regular, the hobby will be most enjoyable. But if you think anything can develop from a "friendship" or "drinks" with a provider, and you "care" deeply for them, then you should take some of your hard-earned dough that you spend on this hobby and get some professional help. And I'm not saying it's not cool to hug a provider as you're walking out. It's just part of my personal business approach.

So remember the following phrase: If you can't separate, masterbate.

Oh, and to the provider I talked about in my opening sentence, if you're reading this, you're fired. Nothing personal.

This has been a public service announcement for fellow hobbyists.

Trying to keep it real,

BFDeal[/QUOTE]

I get one before and after my events with certain providers. Ms Elli, and Cate are two very fine huggers, and I believe they are genuine. The AMP girls always hug me when I leave, but those are more of the mother and law type hug. Which I always check to make sure that ol battle axe's hands are void of sharp objects before she wraps them around my back. I give FF and ILAPP a hug when I see them and bid them farewell for another 3-6 months. Not because we plan on spooning or having candlelite dinners folowed by handheld walks in the moonlite, but because its a friendship that is genuine, plus I know there will be several licked female freckles instore for the evening ahead, and many lap dances. BTW I'll be in Indy the 19th thru 22nd guy's. Save up your dollar bills.

TN

I can see where BB is coming from and I do think in this economy with so many ladies in this many are giving you a goodbye kiss or hug to get return business. BB is I think just saying don't mistake that hug and kiss for closeness on her part. Is usually the lady trying to say in a nice way enjoyed our time and hope you come back again. If it is more about GF GFE then by all means be careful LOL Two good looks at the total situation.

First time for everything,

Called for a girl I normally see off BP and her phone handler to me to review her soon and be nice to her, because the last time I put a review on here for one of her other girls she answers the phone for, I wasnt very nice and was mean according to her.

Yes, I was a little kurt, but I am getting sick and tired of all the fake pics and the shitty service out there. I am very nice to every lady I see, I am never rude but if you sell a bill of goods, don't expect everyone to be happy. Now, I am not going to continue to bash her, just give my review and move on. Several other SM's on this board have been very helpful to me and I will not give a good review to a chick that is not deserving of it. You put porn model images on your posts and look like her 50 year old grandmother, I am going to let the other fellas know. ONE TIME and move on.

Honestl I do understand what BB is saying. Is just that I visit a restarant more when I order coffee and pay for coffee but in some location they keep on refiling your cup and in some other you almost have to ask for a 2nd. When a provider start getting to close to you is time to stop visiting.

[QUOTE=BigMack;1345584]I can see where BB is coming from and I do think in this economy with so many ladies in this many are giving you a goodbye kiss or hug to get return business. BB is I think just saying don't mistake that hug and kiss for closeness on her part. Is usually the lady trying to say in a nice way enjoyed our time and hope you come back again. If it is more about GF GFE then by all means be careful LOL Two good looks at the total situation.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Two Nutts; 1345582]I get one before and after my events with certain providers. Ms Elli, and Cate are two very fine huggers, and I believe they are genuine. The AMP girls always hug me when I leave, but those are more of the mother and law type hug. Which I always check to make sure that ol battle axe's hands are void of sharp objects before she wraps them around my back. I give FF and ILAPP a hug when I see them and bid them farewell for another 3-6 months. Not because we plan on spooning or having candlelite dinners folowed by handheld walks in the moonlite, but because its a friendship that is genuine, plus I know there will be several licked female freckles instore for the evening ahead, and many lap dances. BTW I'll be in Indy the 19th thru 22nd guy's. Save up your dollar bills.

TN[/QUOTE]A little brohug don't make us queer now does it? I will be more than ready for it, duck season will be over and time some different kind of fowl.

Variety. Life is full of variety. Everyones mileage may vary depending on who they are and who they meet. BF you make a great point below.

[QUOTE=BFDeal;1344741]These fine women have lives and while they cherish the consistency of a good regular, they have mouths to feed and businesses to run. Top providers have to market themselves, answer phone calls / texts, balance different budgets (advertising, phone bills, hotel rooms, clothing, etc.) to make their business work, and then find time to spend with family / loved ones. They don't have it easy. BFDeal[/QUOTE]Providers have lives and they live it the way they want, good or bad or ugly or a combination. It's a choice but sometimes desperation makes them choose. Sometimes the circumstances are sad sometimes they are erotic. What difference does it make, it happens and thats the way it is. Luchi trys to save them. BF Deal wants the fantasy without any connection except for the time he has paid for. Chelli4me doesn't believe they can be friends without money involved. All of them are right because that is what they believe. Again their mileage varies, nothing more and definately nothing wrong. It's life.

[QUOTE=BFDeal; 1344741]But if you think anything can develop from a "friendship" or "drinks" with a provider, and you "care" deeply for them, then you should take some of your hard-earned dough that you spend on this hobby and get some professional help.

So remember the following phrase: If you can't separate, masterbate.[/QUOTE]I guess I will have to resolve myself to a lot of masterbation and psychoanalysis. Maybe I am the Don Quixiote of self service in this hobby. I have relationships with providers, past and current. I go to dinner, have drinks, talk about personal issues (both sides) and genuinely care. Not to all of them, to the ones I feel are actually wonderful human beings and I have developed a connection with. To many of you this is wrong. I don't do it for the free sex. It's been offered, but I have turned it down because of the feelings that are sometimes involved. It would be a sad world if people didn't connect because others saw it as wrong. We develop friendships in any business, hell it's mandatory in most businesses. Show me a good salesmen and tell me his best clients are not truely his friends. It's sad that some feel seeing a provider is like going to the dentist who uses laughing gas. Feels great during the filling and the nitrous oxide is flowing, but once it wears off and you have to pay the bill, reality sets in and it's time to get the hell out of dodge.

We all have ways in which our mileage varies. I like freckles. I like to watch. I think watching a woman in pleasure is hot, even if I am not the one providing the pleasure. I think being a swinger at times would be fun. I can distinguish sex from love and even if I don't love them, still love the sex. Sorry that this may bother many of you, but I think golden showers are strange. I once watched a guy pay $500 to a stripper to crap in a cup so he could eat it, and he did. To me that is strange. Not necessarily wrong, it just doesn't do it for me. That guy's mileage varies.

So I will, when possible, develop a relationship with a provider. Maybe I will live with one, marry one, die in the arms of one. Maybe I will love them or they will love me. We are hobbyists and they are providers, right? Wrong! They are people with feelings, cares, concerns, bad habits, sexuality, sadness and all the other things we are. We pay them so what. I pay my dentist for a service and never get a laugh, only bad gas.

FF.

PS. Some freckled women like me. Believe it or not.

[QUOTE=Two Nutts;1345582]I know there will be several licked female freckles instore for the evening ahead. TN[/QUOTE]You are a freckle licker voyeur. You only like me because you like watching someone else lick freckles! YMMV.

FF.

PS. The Don Quixiote of freckled ladies.

[QUOTE=Freckle Freak; 1346573]Variety. Life is full of variety. Everyones mileage may vary depending on who they are and who they meet. BF you make a great point below.

Providers have lives and they live it the way they want, good or bad or ugly or a combination. It's a choice but sometimes desperation makes them choose. Sometimes the circumstances are sad sometimes they are erotic. What difference does it make, it happens and thats the way it is. Luchi trys to save them. BF Deal wants the fantasy without any connection except for the time he has paid for. Chelli4me doesn't believe they can be friends without money involved. All of them are right because that is what they believe. Again their mileage varies, nothing more and definately nothing wrong. It's life.

I guess I will have to resolve myself to a lot of masterbation and psychoanalysis. Maybe I am the Don Quixiote of self service in this hobby. I have relationships with providers, past and current. I go to dinner, have drinks, talk about personal issues (both sides) and genuinely care. Not to all of them, to the ones I feel are actually wonderful human beings and I have developed a connection with. To many of you this is wrong. I don't do it for the free sex. It's been offered, but I have turned it down because of the feelings that are sometimes involved. It would be a sad world if people didn't connect because others saw it as wrong. We develop friendships in any business, hell it's mandatory in most businesses. Show me a good salesmen and tell me his best clients are not truely his friends. It's sad that some feel seeing a provider is like going to the dentist who uses laughing gas. Feels great during the filling and the nitrous oxide is flowing, but once it wears off and you have to pay the bill, reality sets in and it's time to get the hell out of dodge.

We all have ways in which our mileage varies. I like freckles. I like to watch. I think watching a woman in pleasure is hot, even if I am not the one providing the pleasure. I think being a swinger at times would be fun. I can distinguish sex from love and even if I don't love them, still love the sex. Sorry that this may bother many of you, but I think golden showers are strange. I once watched a guy pay $500 to a stripper to crap in a cup so he could eat it, and he did. To me that is strange. Not necessarily wrong, it just doesn't do it for me. That guy's mileage varies.

So I will, when possible, develop a relationship with a provider. Maybe I will live with one, marry one, die in the arms of one. Maybe I will love them or they will love me. We are hobbyists and they are providers, right? Wrong! They are people with feelings, cares, concerns, bad habits, sexuality, sadness and all the other things we are. We pay them so what. I pay my dentist for a service and never get a laugh, only bad gas.

FF.

PS. Some freckled women like me. Believe it or not.[/QUOTE]But I know it to be true, and even more strange is that there are a number of them. You know I kid because I love. That was a really good post, I sometimes forget you are more than just a trick.

P. S. I am really pissed at you, you told me that was a cup of strippers chocolate.

[QUOTE=Freckle Freak; 1346573]Variety. Life is full of variety. Everyones mileage may vary depending on who they are and who they meet. BF you make a great point below.

Providers have lives and they live it the way they want, good or bad or ugly or a combination. It's a choice but sometimes desperation makes them choose. Sometimes the circumstances are sad sometimes they are erotic. What difference does it make, it happens and thats the way it is. Luchi trys to save them. BF Deal wants the fantasy without any connection except for the time he has paid for. Chelli4me doesn't believe they can be friends without money involved...[/QUOTE]Very well said FF I agree with you 1000%,

Happy New Year

[QUOTE=Freckle Freak; 1346582]You are a freckle licker voyeur. You only like me because you like watching someone else lick freckles! YMMV.

FF.[/QUOTE]I only watch because I'm either out of money and / or you quit buying lap dances for me.

[QUOTE=Ilapp;1346945]P. S. I am really pissed at you, you told me that was a cup of strippers chocolate.[/QUOTE]I guess the craps, huh cats out of the bag, sorry.

PS. Hey did you like the nuts, they had freckles on them.

Sometimes I act just like some of my hunting dogs that turned out to not be too bright. They get on a scent, and no matter how futile or how many retracks they have to do, they just won't let go of it. I did the same thing this week, (and priors) and after numerous fits and starts, I at least tracked down what I was after, and it was good, but I had thought the question is if the effort was worth the result. Time and reflection will answer that. Sometimes you have to know when to break the trail and try something else. As a good buddy of mine in the hobby says, and it relates my two favorite things, fishing and fucking;"when it isn't working- move the boat." This probably would have been a good week to take that advice. First, ApresVous finally put Indy back in a rotation and sent one of their spectacular collection, though I have no personal knowledge of her. Second, Viva sent in my favorite Asian provider these days, Belle, who is gorgeous and delightful and Third, I did not know until last night that Heaven69, or Heaven is on earth now was going to be here, and she is just a very hot bundle of energy, and at her rates really too good to miss. So if I had thought a little more with the small head, that happens for me to be the one on my shoulders apparently, I had really good options that I didn't get to make good use of.

I was going to Cincy / NKY this weekend to see family and texted, emailed, and tried reaching three ladies who I had talked with before. One did get back but she was outcall only and this man does not like to leave paper trails so I asked her to give me a heads up, <no pun intended at this time smile when she got an incall, and she said she would. The other two wouldn't respond but both had reviews on them on the Cincy boards. Guess business is good so my hat's off to them both, I wish. With family in an area I'm not going to get a room, which TN and IL should consider with all this nicey nice stuff and "I love you bro" LMAO. Having the SO and RRTs with me on this trip couldn't get free to see Melissa who I really wanted to hook up with before I go as she gives great french lessons and being overly stressed and needing my pipes cleaned even more stressful knew she could do the job excellently. Holidays are great except when you have to wait for school to resume and the thought of leaving the Indy area and going a weekend without is like a chocoholic in Hersheys factory and the operative word being NO. I did have a lady email me out of the blue but have heard as hot as she is she has some other problems that could easily effect her skills so that was a no no. Hope all are doing well and it's going to be a VERY LONG weekend so maybe the Maxwell House lady can help me to the last drop or a good plumber can be found. HNYear to the clients and ladies. If my favorite masseuse would like to take care of my large muscle stiffness would love to "get in" before leaving Enjoy

[QUOTE=BigMack;1348336]I was going to Cincy / NKY this weekend to see family and texted, emailed, and tried reaching three ladies who I had talked with before. One did get back but she was outcall only and this man does not like to leave paper trails so I asked her to give me a heads up, <no pun intended at this time smile when she got an incall, and she said she would. The other two wouldn't respond but both had reviews on them on the Cincy boards. Guess business is good so my hat's off to them both, I wish. With family in an area I'm not going to get a room, which TN and IL should consider with all this nicey nice stuff and "I love you bro" LMAO. Having the SO and RRTs with me on this trip couldn't get free to see Melissa who I really wanted to hook up with before I go as she gives great french lessons and being overly stressed and needing my pipes cleaned even more stressful knew she could do the job excellently. Holidays are great except when you have to wait for school to resume and the thought of leaving the Indy area and going a weekend without is like a chocoholic in Hersheys factory and the operative word being NO. I did have a lady email me out of the blue but have heard as hot as she is she has some other problems that could easily effect her skills so that was a no no. Hope all are doing well and it's going to be a VERY LONG weekend so maybe the Maxwell House lady can help me to the last drop or a good plumber can be found. HNYear to the clients and ladies. If my favorite masseuse would like to take care of my large muscle stiffness would love to "get in" before leaving Enjoy[/QUOTE]TN is kind enough to leave me a key to his room so all those hours he is at work it doesn't go to waste, the man is a real conservationist. Speaking of Nut-think of youfrom a duck blind in the morn.

Long time monger / hobbyist, but very rarely post. I was compelled to say, that may well be the best thought out post I have read on here in quite some time.

Well done sir.

Variety. Life is full of variety. Everyones mileage may vary depending on who they are and who they meet. BF you make a great point below.

Providers have lives and they live it the way they want, good or bad or ugly or a combination. It's a choice but sometimes desperation makes them choose. Sometimes the circumstances are sad sometimes they are erotic. What difference does it make, it happens and thats the way it is. Luchi trys to save them. BF Deal wants the fantasy without any connection except for the time he has paid for. Chelli4me doesn't believe they can be friends without money involved. All of them are right because that is what they believe. Again their mileage varies, nothing more and definately nothing wrong. It's life.

So I will, when possible, develop a relationship with a provider. Maybe I will live with one, marry one, die in the arms of one. Maybe I will love them or they will love me. We are hobbyists and they are providers, right? Wrong! They are people with feelings, cares, concerns, bad habits, sexuality, sadness and all the other things we are. We pay them so what. I pay my dentist for a service and never get a laugh, only bad gas.

FF.

PS. Some freckled women like me. Believe it or not.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Ilapp;1348529]TN is kind enough to leave me a key to his room so all those hours he is at work it doesn't go to waste, the man is a real conservationist. Speaking of Nut-think of youfrom a duck blind in the morn.[/QUOTE]I'd like to come back to my hotel room and NOT sleep in the wet spot!

[QUOTE=Shoedog69; 1349390]Long time monger / hobbyist, but very rarely post. I was compelled to say, that may well be the best thought out post I have read on here in quite some time.

Well done sir.

Variety. Life is full of variety. Everyones mileage may vary depending on who they are and who they meet. BF you make a great point below.

Providers have lives and they live it the way they want, good or bad or ugly or a combination. It's a choice but sometimes desperation makes them choose. Sometimes the circumstances are sad sometimes they are erotic. What difference does it make, it happens and thats the way it is. Luchi trys to save them. BF Deal wants the fantasy without any connection except for the time he has paid for. Chelli4me doesn't believe they can be friends without money involved. All of them are right because that is what they believe. Again their mileage varies, nothing more and definately nothing wrong. It's life.

So I will, when possible, develop a relationship with a provider. Maybe I will live with one, marry one, die in the arms of one. Maybe I will love them or they will love me. We are hobbyists and they are providers, right? Wrong! They are people with feelings, cares, concerns, bad habits, sexuality, sadness and all the other things we are. We pay them so what. I pay my dentist for a service and never get a laugh, only bad gas.

FF.

PS. Some freckled women like me. Believe it or not.[/QUOTE][/QUOTE]Nicely put! You should post more often.

Yes, it's upon us. I'd give it a week or two and cling on to your favorite utr's cell number and lay low for awhile. The government, LE, the NFL and corporate (greed) sponsorship are about to take over. The floodgates are about to open. If you want to know what a dictatorship is like, well, here we are. Heck, it's already started. Have you tried driving through downtown lately? I've been to a Super Bowl and it was a mess (early 90s Redskins beat the Bills in Minneapolis; the difference is back then it was strictly yellow pages, now this shit's all over the Internet). $300 a night for a hotel room that week, weekend will be cheap. And that hotel room won't be downtown or on the 465 circle. It will be in Crawfordsville or Bloomington. Strippers aren't the only ones flocking to the Circle City. Check out NR in about 3 weeks. It's going to be a mess. And after the AFC and NFC championship games are played (Jan. 22) well, like I said. Floodgates. That's when we add on the fans of the two Super Bowl teams. And they're bringing their bank accounts. Because there's lots of money involved, crime will be rampant. Hold onto your wallets. People also will literally be fighting for hotel rooms. I've seen it happen. And here it comes. Ready, set, chaos.

BFDeal.

P. S. Please be careful everyone, not just during the crazy week to 10 days of Super Bowl shit but in general. I'm trying to get a link on here but my laptop isn't cooperating today. Fucking tech people suck. It was at the shop for two weeks. The first murder victim of the year in Lexington, Ky, was a provider. If you have time, check out Lexington, Ky, & I-75 backpage advertisers reviews. It's on there, and they do have a suspect.

[QUOTE=BFDeal; 1353430]Yes, it's upon us. I'd give it a week or two and cling on to your favorite utr's cell number and lay low for awhile. The government, LE, the NFL and corporate (greed) sponsorship are about to take over. The floodgates are about to open. If you want to know what a dictatorship is like, well, here we are. Heck, it's already started. Have you tried driving through downtown lately? I've been to a Super Bowl and it was a mess (early 90s Redskins beat the Bills in Minneapolis; the difference is back then it was strictly yellow pages, now this shit's all over the Internet). $300 a night for a hotel room that week, weekend will be cheap. And that hotel room won't be downtown or on the 465 circle. It will be in Crawfordsville or Bloomington. Strippers aren't the only ones flocking to the Circle City. Check out NR in about 3 weeks. It's going to be a mess. And after the AFC and NFC championship games are played (Jan. 22) well, like I said. Floodgates. That's when we add on the fans of the two Super Bowl teams. And they're bringing their bank accounts. Because there's lots of money involved, crime will be rampant. Hold onto your wallets. People also will literally be fighting for hotel rooms. I've seen it happen. And here it comes. Ready, set, chaos.

BFDeal.

P. S. Please be careful everyone, not just during the crazy week to 10 days of Super Bowl shit but in general. I'm trying to get a link on here but my laptop isn't cooperating today. Fucking tech people suck. It was at the shop for two weeks. The first murder victim of the year in Lexington, Ky, was a provider. If you have time, check out Lexington, Ky, & I-75 backpage advertisers reviews. It's on there, and they do have a suspect.[/QUOTE]When I lived in Daytona I noticed that whenever there was a major sports event like the 500 all of the girls raised their prices. In some cases they quadrupled. Another good reason to wait things out.

TD

IMPD will have more than 200 undercover officers on downtown streets the week before and the week of the Super Bowl. They each will carry a Smartphone and a handgun. More than 1600 police officers 1200 firefighters and 300 EMTs are working the week of the Super Bowl. Officers from police departments outside the city have been hired to work security at bars, including strip clubs, and other businesses downtown.

More than 70 police surveillance cameras will be used downtown, not counting the new video cameras installed around Lucas Oil Stadium, the Indiana Convention Center and Georgia Street. Lucas Oil Stadium has fine-tuned its DAS system, which is provided by Verizon Wireless. It's safe to say if you're going to be downtown the week of the game, you will be on video at some point.

A primary reason for the increased security is because the Super Bowl has a Special Event Assessment Rating (SEAR) of 1 by the Department of Homeland Security. To compare, the Indy 500 is a SEAR 3 event.

An IMPD helicopter will join 4 helicopters from USA Customs and Border Protection, and they will be in the skies mainly the week of the Super Bowl. USA Customs and Border Protection is bringing three X-ray trucks into the city.

I think the last two items are for terrorism so that really doesn't have anything to do with, well, you know.

Sixty-five IMPD officers have been assigned to monitor online activity the week before and the week of the big game.

With all that, I doubt if LE is looking for smokers in non-smoking establishments.

Estimated budget for police officers, including overtime, during that two-week period: 4 million roses. It's not clear if that figure is for IMPD officers or all the officers, including the ones from outside cities working in bars and other businesses, on duty during that time frame.

What I'm estimating: Doughnut places in an around the Circle City are ordering tons of extra batter and will do very well.

Now, I know you're all wondering how I got a copy of this press release. It was given to me by a friend who works at a local newspaper. He stole it off a woman's desk, a woman he hates. So, Melanie, if you're reading this, thanks for taking a shit break and fuck off you total fucktard.

BFDeal

the highlight of my weekend-i live a very sheltered life-was being lectured by an indiana state representative from kokomo (via teevee) on how the super bowl is one of the major events of the year for international **** sex trafficking, incorporated. i'm sure he's made a lifelong study of the problem. either that, or attended one briefing conducted by the same le forces which stand to profit from anti-sex hysteria, conducted for the purposes of changing indiana state law for the sake of a three-day event.

oh, is it already against indiana state law to traffic in human beings, of whatever age, and for whatever purpose? no matter. we still need a new law, just to be sure everyone knows we're agin it. after all, it's so important to accommodate the nfl and its corporate sponsors, who are bringing us hundreds of millions of dollars worth of economic activity-according to them-that we promised, two years ago, that an as-yet-unelected indianapolis city county council would change our ticket-scalping ordinance. which it did.

the new law as written, by the way, would make a 16-year-old swain who drove his 15-year-old girlfriend home from school, and got a hummer, guilty of human sex trafficking. you just can't beat the indiana general assembly when it comes to hastily-written legislation, or marginal english competence.

every one of us knows what's being "accomplished" with the fraction of this newfound wealth that actually goes into enforcement: the harassment of bp girls that stays just this side of entrapment-according to the courts-and the rounding up of incautious hobbyists who're sent straight into a diversion program for misdemeanor offenders. all john q knows, though, are the scare stories his elected officials, and his teevee, pelt him over the head with.

we've replaced honesty with marketing in this country, on the grounds that there's more profit in it. and then we wonder why everything's fucked up.

[QUOTE=BFDeal; 1353852]Now, I know you're all wondering how I got a copy of this press release. It was given to me by a friend who works at a local newspaper. He stole it off a woman's desk, a woman he hates. So, Melanie, if you're reading this, thanks for taking a shit break and fuck off you total fucktard.

BFDeal[/QUOTE]BF Deal:

Man, you have been hotter than a firecracker on 4th of July of late. With this post and several of your other kick-azz-and-take-names posts in the ville and Nati, you may need to be renamed the Sheriff Joe Arpaio of usasg. You will soon be having those who cross the (BFD) line wearing pink boxers, just like Sheriff Joe. Thanks for keeping everyone 'real' here, BFD.

A friend in INPD told me that officers are required to work a 10 day detail over the SB- days before / over and after. They are expecting to work 9 to 10 hr days. Pretty much the whole force will be in. Out of town cops will only be on security detail etc as INPD wants to keep control over their own force. Officers will not be paid any overtime and are expected to make up extra work time with extra days off later. My friend says that after about 7 hrs on the beat nerves are frayed and patience is thin. Keep that in mind dealing with the cops. And like most of us workers, they are not getting any benes from this event at all.

Numenor

Wow! She still excites me as I write this. So, here is the short list. Handcuffed, blindfolded, toys, some anal stimulation. HOLY POOH BATMAN! Without going into too much detail, she work me the hell out! If you go, say Hi to her kitty.

Have fun!

[QUOTE=Glue Czar; 1355653]Wow! She still excites me as I write this. So, here is the short list. Handcuffed, blindfolded, toys, some anal stimulation. HOLY POOH BATMAN! Without going into too much detail, she work me the hell out! If you go, say Hi to her kitty.

Have fun![/QUOTE]She'll let you cuff and blindfold her?

Does anyone have any experience with Trinity? She is on NR but I honestly never thought much of that site. I had the advantage of becoming friends with Misty (and took some of those great pics she posted to promote herself hehehe) but I retired right before she did. I find myself interested again but there just isn't anyone out there it seems except Abby who is on my list. I saw this girl the other day and wondered if she is real. Here are some links (the first one is **************) :

[url]http://www.**************.com/escorts/trinity-indianapolis-white-female-0[/url]

[url]http://indianapolis.backpage.com/FemaleEscorts/girl-next-door-available-now-19/5533239[/url]

[url]http://indianapolis.backpage.com/FemaleEscorts/a-d-d-i-c-t-i-v-e-19/5353337[/url]

There is also Eva I guess. Not familiar with her either:

[url]http://indianapolis.backpage.com/FemaleEscorts/take-a-trip-to-heaven-with-eva-21/5279355[/url]

Feedback welcome and appreciated!

Ron

[QUOTE=Glue Czar; 1355653]Wow! She still excites me as I write this. So, here is the short list. Handcuffed, blindfolded, toys, some anal stimulation. HOLY POOH BATMAN! Without going into too much detail, she work me the hell out! If you go, say Hi to her kitty.

Have fun![/QUOTE]If you have never let yourself go and have a women take total control of you here is your chance. I know many of you guys want to try, but when it gets to it you don't. Treat yourself at least once, you may never go back. Something very erotic about being tied to a bed totally exposed and a women hovering her kitty and ass over you just out of reach and not knowing what might be coming next. A toy, a riding crop or maybe both while she takes a seat where ever she wants. Hmmmmmm.

[QUOTE=Indy Guy98;1356793]Does anyone have any experience with Trinity? She is on NR but I honestly never thought much of that site. I had the advantage of becoming friends with Misty (and took some of those great pics she posted to promote herself hehehe) but I retired right before she did. I find myself interested again but there just isn't anyone out there it seems except Abby who is on my list. I saw this girl the other day and wondered if she is real. Here are some links (the first one is **************) :[/QUOTE]There is a review of tinity on BP review forum, sounds so / so but I too am interested and considering, let me know if you do!