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[QUOTE=BarOfSoap;7016948]They have IR cameras. If the lights off they still see everything bright as day.
I never had to tip security. The girl would just turn the light off.
Dancers always get fired there. If they create drama or don't draw money they are out. They have tons of females there every night. They get rid of the dead weight.[/QUOTE][URL]https://i.imgur.com/4KYdHYU.jpeg[/URL]
Here you will see the backroom cameras and the 'night vision'.
No recent posts about OTB so I went Sunday and Monday day shift to TOFT. There's definitely "something" going. Monday was a resurface of the parking lot surface and construction type stuff, including new security cameras. It look closed on Monday but the construction guy waved me around, and I parked in the far back. Monday was dead. The bartender couldn't believe it. He ended giving me generous pours and an extra. If you know him, he's solid and the very best. I always tip him well and always have. He didn't say much, just kept saying he didn't know where everyone was. Around 2 he was lke it should pick up and it never did. I was there from 12-5 with 3 girls, Marilyn, Claudia?, and petite latina really cute not my type, and 1 other skinny AA girl who was on her phone the entire time. Claudia really hot and good on stage but sits by herself on her phone. There were plenty of guys maybe 10-12 and a few did dances. I did talk with Marilyn but the vibe wasn't there. We did hint at a room but she kept playing coy and she left for one of her regulars. Marilyn is hot, talks sex, and wants a boob job, so there ya go. FI you go seek her out we were talking nice details so I think she'd be worth your time and she has a great body. So 4 girls total on Monday. Sunday night was / is a different vibe and I won't go again. Just me. Nothing wrong at all but not too many ladies and they all seemed occupied on their phones or with guys (which is good). No opportunities came my way so I watched the football game. I love OTB but the past 2 days were rather dull. A few dancers said yes a lot fo the drugs and drama girls are gone, so maybe that's it. New owner for sure in charge and doing things, but no one seems to know what those things are. Or what will be happening in the future. Sunday night there people in the VIP room area ordering drinks and IDK what girls were back there. There was well-dressed guy in a bow tie who was running drinks and keeping watch, so he was in charge and maybe the manager? I love Monday daytime and have had great, and I mean fun great times. I would say watch this place the next few weeks. I love the bouncers, bartender and the girls and love OTB. Great chill place. The usual girls were not there but do still work there, Angelica, Edible, BeeBee, Avery and Voula are hit or miss and travel now. Happy to provide more.
[QUOTE=StMatthew;7051226]No recent posts about OTB so I went Sunday and Monday day shift to TOFT. There's definitely "something" going. Monday was a resurface of the parking lot surface and construction type stuff, including new security cameras. It look closed on Monday but the construction guy waved me around, and I parked in the far back. Monday was dead. The bartender couldn't believe it. He ended giving me generous pours and an extra. If you know him, he's solid and the very best. I always tip him well and always have. He didn't say much, just kept saying he didn't know where everyone was. Around 2 he was lke it should pick up and it never did. I was there from 12-5 with 3 girls, Marilyn, Claudia?, and petite latina really cute not my type, and 1 other skinny AA girl who was on her phone the entire time. Claudia really hot and good on stage but sits by herself on her phone. There were plenty of guys maybe 10-12 and a few did dances. I did talk with Marilyn but the vibe wasn't there. We did hint at a room but she kept playing coy and she left for one of her regulars. Marilyn is hot, talks sex, and wants a boob job, so there ya go. FI you go seek her out we were talking nice details so I think she'd be worth your time and she has a great body. So 4 girls total on Monday. Sunday night was / is a different vibe and I won't go again. Just me. Nothing wrong at all but not too many ladies and they all seemed occupied on their phones or with guys (which is good). No opportunities came my way so I watched the football game. I love OTB but the past 2 days were rather dull. A few dancers said yes a lot fo the drugs and drama girls are gone, so maybe that's it. New owner for sure in charge and doing things, but no one seems to know what those things are. Or what will be happening in the future. Sunday night there people in the VIP room area ordering drinks and IDK what girls were back there. There was well-dressed guy in a bow tie who was running drinks and keeping watch, so he was in charge and maybe the manager? I love Monday daytime and have had great, and I mean fun great times. I would say watch this place the next few weeks. I love the bouncers, bartender and the girls and love OTB. Great chill place. The usual girls were not there but do still work there, Angelica, Edible, BeeBee, Avery and Voula are hit or miss and travel now. Happy to provide more.[/QUOTE]Thanks for the updates. I've only been to OTB a few times and it was always night time on weekends so the talent was pretty good. I've read reports here that there can be extras in the back, as much to getting FS. Curious to what experiences anyone has and the total pay it was to do VIP with extras. I remember the regular dances in the lap dance area were 35 a song with an ok amount of touching allowed but still watched on camera. I'd guess VIP room there is probably around 300 for half hour?
[QUOTE=BeNewAgain;7064102]Thanks for the updates. I've only been to OTB a few times and it was always night time on weekends so the talent was pretty good. I've read reports here that there can be extras in the back, as much to getting FS. Curious to what experiences anyone has and the total pay it was to do VIP with extras. I remember the regular dances in the lap dance area were 35 a song with an ok amount of touching allowed but still watched on camera. I'd guess VIP room there is probably around 300 for half hour?[/QUOTE]3 songs for 99 now and yes fair amount of touching. I have had no complaints when I have done that. Girls were good in that regard. Keep in mind I only go daytime so there's the money desperation factor. I actually think it's price high but man BeeBee Edible Avery and Voula and Angelica all let me have full access, maybe someone named Tori too and another really fun hot AA girl. She begged me for a room and I just couldn't. Due to money or time that day. Those are older names, so some may be gone / fired. Just sharing in case they work for you. 30 VIP room is 315 (plus tip) but you can have extras for sure. FS or CFS I do not know and have not done. But it wouldn't shock me. Most is BBBJ for me. I'd like to go back to OTB but it's a weird vibe right now. Tip the bartender! LOL love that guy.
[QUOTE=StMatthew;7064479]3 songs for 99 now and yes fair amount of touching. I have had no complaints when I have done that. Girls were good in that regard. Keep in mind I only go daytime so there's the money desperation factor. I actually think it's price high but man BeeBee Edible Avery and Voula and Angelica all let me have full access, maybe someone named Tori too and another really fun hot AA girl. She begged me for a room and I just couldn't. Due to money or time that day. Those are older names, so some may be gone / fired. Just sharing in case they work for you. 30 VIP room is 315 (plus tip) but you can have extras for sure. FS or CFS I do not know and have not done. But it wouldn't shock me. Most is BBBJ for me. I'd like to go back to OTB but it's a weird vibe right now. Tip the bartender! LOL love that guy.[/QUOTE]The scuttlebutt I'm hearing is OTB is hard to read at the moment.
It seems like the changes have, at the very least, reduced co-curricular activities. Some of us known to go have noted the girls who have remained on the roster are ones who are or were less extras-friendly. Not entirely, but for the most part.
The experience has always been fairly costly. Yes, $315 for a room with a bench that doesn't allow for much activity. You can upgrade the room, I think, to $355 or $405 for ones that allow you to have at least one person lying down, which may have advantages. That's just the cost to get into the room, though. If activities are even still on the table, I'd still recommend setting aside $20 for a staff member to get selective amnesia, plus, the dancer is probably going to expect something on top of the room fee. How much that is depends on exactly what two consenting adults want to do. It could be $100-$200 more at least.
I have not personally been back since Danny passed, so this is all hearsay. Still, consider how much you're willing to spend and if you think you're going to get what you want. Be prepared.
A cross-posted complaint that's largely meaningless, since I'm sure the people posting the comments don't visit these forums and aren't thinking things through:
I've seen comments on clubs' social media pages recently complaining the clubs aren't showing pictures of the dancers on those pages. One guy even said they aren't "promoting" the dancers and accused them of not helping the dancers out.
This is an asinine complaint to me.
I'm not saying clubs [I]shouldn't[/I] post pictures of dancers on their Facebook pages or Instagram stories. Reposting posts from dancers who do take locker room selfies? Go for it if they're putting it out there themselves.
However, not every dancer wants her picture identifiably tied to working in a club. Some of these ladies have other jobs or families they don't want to have find out about their dance gig or don't want stalker customers chasing them down IRL. Nature of the biz.
Furthermore, in 2024, a lot of ladies aren't just going to give that stuff away. Want to see their pics? Subscribe to their OF for $9. 99 a month.
As mentioned, some girls are fine with it, but they're not always a representative sample of dancers at larger clubs. And no larger club is going to post pictures of all 40-75 girls working that night.
Force girls, or even put subtle pressure on them, to do it and some will quit or look for ways around it. I know of one dancer who set up something because I think the club wanted them all to have club-tied individual Instagram pages. She consciously made a point not to post an actual picture of herself as her profile pic and hasn't done anything with the account since its creation. As a guy who likes the dancers for whom there's more to life than working at the club, I'd rather not push those girls out.
Also, sometimes clubs then heed pressure to produce representative content and take pictures or video at their big events. Then, guys like me that would rather not be seen out at a club have to be on the lookout for cameras and duck out of the way.
In short, the club will do what it does. Part of what you're paying for when you go to a club is getting to see the merchandise in person and interact with it personally. Don't ask for something for free that is meant to be paid for. Or, if that's what you want, I hear there's this stuff on the internet called porn that's pretty easy to find.
My two cents.
[QUOTE=ChimilDetin;7064962]The scuttlebutt I'm hearing is OTB is hard to read at the moment.
It seems like the changes have, at the very least, reduced co-curricular activities. Some of us known to go have noted the girls who have remained on the roster are ones who are or were less extras-friendly. Not entirely, but for the most part.
The experience has always been fairly costly. Yes, $315 for a room with a bench that doesn't allow for much activity. You can upgrade the room, I think, to $355 or $405 for ones that allow you to have at least one person lying down, which may have advantages. That's just the cost to get into the room, though. If activities are even still on the table, I'd still recommend setting aside $20 for a staff member to get selective amnesia, plus, the dancer is probably going to expect something on top of the room fee. How much that is depends on exactly what two consenting adults want to do. It could be $100-$200 more at least.
I have not personally been back since Danny passed, so this is all hearsay. Still, consider how much you're willing to spend and if you think you're going to get what you want. Be prepared.[/QUOTE]I stopped in this last week and was told by Mike that prices had gone up significantly. A drink I would on occasion cost me $12 now was $26. It has lots of ingredients, as in multi shots. Anyway I do have to thank him for being a good bartender as I ended up leaving with a good buzz. So next time I can make the day shift run if the girls aren't worth it I can at least count on good bar service.
P.S. About the girls; many a boob job to almost plastic look for one but all seem interested in day time regulars. So if just looking for them being attractive, if expecting more maybe not.
[QUOTE=Terysian7;7065001]I stopped in this last week and was told by Mike that prices had gone up significantly. A drink I would on occasion cost me $12 now was $26. It has lots of ingredients, as in multi shots. Anyway I do have to thank him for being a good bartender as I ended up leaving with a good buzz. So next time I can make the day shift run if the girls aren't worth it I can at least count on good bar service.
P.S. About the girls; many a boob job to almost plastic look for one but all seem interested in day time regulars. So if just looking for them being attractive, if expecting more maybe not.[/QUOTE]Would OTB to stay the same. If the drop VIP extras, and raise drink prices, and have flaky girls just sitting on their phones all day, not much a crowd will be left. They could easily stay great and fun, which I hope they do, because I love OTB daytime.
[QUOTE=ChimilDetin;7064990]A cross-posted complaint that's largely meaningless, since I'm sure the people posting the comments don't visit these forums and aren't thinking things through:
I've seen comments on clubs' social media pages recently complaining the clubs aren't showing pictures of the dancers on those pages. One guy even said they aren't "promoting" the dancers and accused them of not helping the dancers out.
This is an asinine complaint to me.
I'm not saying clubs [I]shouldn't[/I] post pictures of dancers on their Facebook pages or Instagram stories. Reposting posts from dancers who do take locker room selfies? Go for it if they're putting it out there themselves.
However, not every dancer wants her picture identifiably tied to working in a club. Some of these ladies have other jobs or families they don't want to have find out about their dance gig or don't want stalker customers chasing them down IRL. Nature of the biz.
Furthermore, in 2024, a lot of ladies aren't just going to give that stuff away. Want to see their pics? Subscribe to their OF for $9. 99 a month.
As mentioned, some girls are fine with it, but they're not always a representative sample of dancers at larger clubs. And no larger club is going to post pictures of all 40-75 girls working that night.
Force girls, or even put subtle pressure on them, to do it and some will quit or look for ways around it. I know of one dancer who set up something because I think the club wanted them all to have club-tied individual Instagram pages. She consciously made a point not to post an actual picture of herself as her profile pic and hasn't done anything with the account since its creation. As a guy who likes the dancers for whom there's more to life than working at the club, I'd rather not push those girls out.[/QUOTE]Since you read the social media, you saw otb say to look on snapchat for that.
On Facebook a lot of clubs post dancers.
[QUOTE=BarOfSoap;7066350]Since you read the social media, you saw otb say to look on snapchat for that.
On Facebook a lot of clubs post dancers.[/QUOTE]I did, but I don't do Snapchat and I'm not going to learn another social media service to see girls for whom I basically know what they look like, or take the time to create an anonymous profile just to look at dancer pictures. Honestly, it's almost easier to just, you know, go and see them in person. That's the goal anyhow, right?
I visit club Facebook and Insta pages, but just visit and look. I never interact.
I like that OTB posts rosters for my sake, but I also wonder about it for the dancers. Let's say a dancer has a customer who's a little too interested. Is she going to want that customer to know when she is or isn't in? I wonder if that leads to occasional changed dancer names.
[QUOTE=ChimilDetin;7066775]I did, but I don't do Snapchat and I'm not going to learn another social media service to see girls for whom I basically know what they look like, or take the time to create an anonymous profile just to look at dancer pictures. Honestly, it's almost easier to just, you know, go and see them in person. That's the goal anyhow, right?
I visit club Facebook and Insta pages, but just visit and look. I never interact.
I like that OTB posts rosters for my sake, but I also wonder about it for the dancers. Let's say a dancer has a customer who's a little too interested. Is she going to want that customer to know when she is or isn't in? I wonder if that leads to occasional changed dancer names.[/QUOTE]No they don't switch names. That's not allowed.
I've been friends with the dancers and staff that worked there for over a decade.
I don't have much information on the current situation but I am pretty sure you're overthinking everything.
Did anyone go to their Halloween party? Costumes? I am heading there next 2 weeks and wanted to see if girls were like we are used to or if there are still "changes taking place"? I like daytime, so any intel is appreciated. Happy to return intel but I haven't been in a long time. I also hope things have been better here. I know rooms are down and drink prices are up.
Silk charges 10% surcharge to change bills for singles. What the F.
[QUOTE=CheapoCheapo;7138838]Silk charges 10% surcharge to change bills for singles. What the F.[/QUOTE]Posts: 52.
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Silk charges 10% surcharge to change bills for singles. What the F.
I went a few weeks back. Same thing. Wanted fifty singles and got 45 back. I normally tip the bartender a buck for giving me change but not this time. Management it's screwing employees. I didn't tip anyone and walked out never to return. A dancer told me business is way down. Wonder why?
Went to the border with about 1 k to spend. I've always had luck at this place proving Chris Rock wrong. It has been about a year since I've visited though so wasn't sure if new rules had been put into play. Anyway, Inarrived at around 2 nand took a seat at the bar. Lots of dancers with only a few that had my attention. One was a blonde that sat by me. She has been there for 9 years, seems intelligent, in her 30's and is attractive. (At least to me.). Took her for one dance that ended up being 3. She didn't give me a vibe that more can be had so I didn't push anything for VIP. She left to see her regular. Then I waited. 3 hours. No one else came up to me. I refuse to grab anyone to take my money. , even for a dance. I would expect they would try to at least come to me. Anyways, ended up leaving and contacted an old favorite of mine to provide some relief.