[QUOTE=BobBrady2;5915268]Saw her a few times around 5 years ago. She's inherently 50's now. Menu was wide open. Great personality. Not sure what she'd be like now.[/QUOTE]In her early 50's now*.
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[QUOTE=BobBrady2;5915268]Saw her a few times around 5 years ago. She's inherently 50's now. Menu was wide open. Great personality. Not sure what she'd be like now.[/QUOTE]In her early 50's now*.
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Tried to message this one. Asked what's on the menu, she said it's on the add. Asked about rates no response. Seems snotty and not aware that menus typically have prices on them. Got a weird vibe and just thought I'd share.[/QUOTE]I saw her a couple times a couple years back. At the time she was cheap at 60 ss. I can't imagine that has moved much. She was actually quite friendly. I hear she does BBFS but I would never do that with her. Looks wise she has taken a turn for the worst so interpret that as you may.
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Tried to message this one. Asked what's on the menu, she said it's on the add. Asked about rates no response. Seems snotty and not aware that menus typically have prices on them. Got a weird vibe and just thought I'd share.[/QUOTE]She's been around since I started mongering 10 years ago. I saw her a lot back in the day. At the time she was a great call. Looked good, BBBJ, BBFS and was the standard 200/ hr or even less at the time. Very chatty so you had to let her know it's time to get down. But she did have a sexy southern voice that was hot at first but then starts to get on your nerves. She disappears a lot mostly due to vacations in the NJ penal system. Last time I saw her was around 3 years ago and she was starting to look bad. Looking at these current pictures I don't think I would see her now. A total train wreck with many demons. Probably mid 50's by now. Sad to see these pics because she used to be pretty hot.
[QUOTE=PMan65;5914547]I've seen a few ads in which a so-called GFE provider that are charging more (+100) for a PSE experience.
I did a search on PSE and got no hits.
Now I've seen my share of porn and was wondering what is the difference? Is is BBFS, been offered that with a GFE, again that's a YMMV. So what is the difference?[/QUOTE]Well what GFE and PSE should be and what these girls think it is can vary greatly.
GFE is supposed to be kissing, cuddling, BBBJ, sometimes BBFS and basically acting like your girlfriend.
PSE is supposed to be a porn experience with BBBJ and usually BBFS. A very hot and dirty experience.
Some girls do follow that. Others claim GFE but do nothing remotely girlfriend like and others say PSE but won't even do a BBBJ. I had an argument once with a girl who said she was GFE and tried giving me a CBJ. I said what friggin girlfriend ever gives their bf a CBJ.
You basically have to ask them when you reach out to them and / or before you hand over the money if they meet your expectations of what those two terms mean to you. It will be different for each girl.
[QUOTE=TailGunner1;5915386]Well what GFE and PSE should be and what these girls think it is can vary greatly.
GFE is supposed to be kissing, cuddling, BBBJ, sometimes BBFS and basically acting like your girlfriend.
PSE is supposed to be a porn experience with BBBJ and usually BBFS. A very hot and dirty experience.
Some girls do follow that. Others claim GFE but do nothing remotely girlfriend like and others say PSE but won't even do a BBBJ. I had an argument once with a girl who said she was GFE and tried giving me a CBJ. I said what friggin girlfriend ever gives their bf a CBJ.
You basically have to ask them when you reach out to them and / or before you hand over the money if they meet your expectations of what those two terms mean to you. It will be different for each girl.[/QUOTE]Thanks TG,
I hear ya.
That's what I thought, just curious what others thought. I'm not a novice, just rusty after a long time out of the hobby. Like everything else this is a subjective subject and each person has their own likes and dislikes. It's also a YMMV thing. If you click with the provider you may get what other's don't. You know YMMV.
It's definitely a gray area with these STG girls. The higher end girls tend to be more standardized and you generally get what you expect.
I recently ran into a problem while I was in another city where the girl advertised ultra GFE. The pics got me all hot and Bothered. And the Little Head got me thinking of all the crazy shit this girl was going to do too me. I got nothing close to what I thought would be GFE service, let alone ULTRA GFE service. Covered everything, "I don't to kiss, I don't like mish, I don't like RCG. Don't touch my asshole".
It was definitely a YMMV situation. And unlike my date that night, my Mileage sucked big time.
I just tried to look up her ad on STG as a warning to anyone going to Albany but the ad is gone now.
[QUOTE=TailGunner1;5915386]Well what GFE and PSE should be and what these girls think it is can vary greatly.
GFE is supposed to be kissing, cuddling, BBBJ, sometimes BBFS and basically acting like your girlfriend.
PSE is supposed to be a porn experience with BBBJ and usually BBFS. A very hot and dirty experience.
Some girls do follow that. Others claim GFE but do nothing remotely girlfriend like and others say PSE but won't even do a BBBJ. I had an argument once with a girl who said she was GFE and tried giving me a CBJ. I said what friggin girlfriend ever gives their bf a CBJ.
You basically have to ask them when you reach out to them and / or before you hand over the money if they meet your expectations of what those two terms mean to you. It will be different for each girl.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=PMan65;5915728]Thanks TG,
I hear ya.
That's what I thought, just curious what others thought. I'm not a novice, just rusty after a long time out of the hobby. Like everything else this is a subjective subject and each person has their own likes and dislikes. It's also a YMMV thing. If you click with the provider you may get what other's don't. You know YMMV.[/QUOTE]Yes it is almost always a YMMV situation. Some things you have no control over such as the mood of the girl on a particular day or how wacky she is.
The better looking you are the better mileage you will usually get. Even here you have some control if you aren't the best looking guy around. Show up presentable. If you are 300 lbs and show up in dirty sweatpants, skid marks on your underwear and look all disheveled you probably will not get as good of service than if you at least make an effort with your appearance. You aren't going on a real date here but at least appear presentable with what you can control. Most of us get pissed when the girl opens the door and it looks like she made no effort to look as nice as the pics she had in her ad. This stuff is even more important to women even if they are a drug crazed lunatic selling themselves.
A very big factor which will affect your level of service is to be fresh and clean. Shave and trim down there. Be freshly showered. Brush your teeth. I even keep a bottle of mouthwash in the car to do a gargle and spit the moment before I go to their room. Hose off your ass before you see a girl. You think she wants to smell whatever you got going on back there? All this stuff will affect your level of service. I have had these girls tell me horror stories about how some guys show up. Again, these are just ****** but why wouldn't you want to set yourself up for a good call? It could be the difference between you getting a half assed 30 second blowjob and her deep throating you for half an hr.
Also having a chill personality and a sense of humor can go a long way. It often won't make a difference with the all business girls but helps with most of the others. If they are relaxed and comfortable around you you will probably have a great call and get to do things not every other guy will. On the flip side don't be a white knight or do any favors for them or put yourself in a position where they are too comfortable with you and think they can take advantage. Always maintain the attitude that this is a business transaction. Be nice. But also be firm and not a sap.
Sometimes there is no rhyme or reason. One guys gets a crap call and another guy gets full bare back on everything the same day. All you can do is set yourself up for a good call by paying attention to the things you can control.
[QUOTE=TailGunner1;5916120]Yes it is almost always a YMMV situation. Some things you have no control over such as the mood of the girl on a particular day or how wacky she is.
The better looking you are the better mileage you will usually get. Even here you have some control if you aren't the best looking guy around. Show up presentable. If you are 300 lbs and show up in dirty sweatpants, skid marks on your underwear and look all disheveled you probably will not get as good of service than if you at least make an effort with your appearance. You aren't going on a real date here but at least appear presentable with what you can control. Most of us get pissed when the girl opens the door and it looks like she made no effort to look as nice as the pics she had in her ad. This stuff is even more important to women even if they are a drug crazed lunatic selling themselves.
A very big factor which will affect your level of service is to be fresh and clean. Shave and trim down there. Be freshly showered. Brush your teeth. I even keep a bottle of mouthwash in the car to do a gargle and spit the moment before I go to their room. Hose off your ass before you see a girl. You think she wants to smell whatever you got going on back there? All this stuff will affect your level of service. I have had these girls tell me horror stories about how some guys show up. Again, these are just ****** but why wouldn't you want to set yourself up for a good call? It could be the difference between you getting a half assed 30 second blowjob and her deep throating you for half an hr.
Also having a chill personality and a sense of humor can go a long way. It often won't make a difference with the all business girls but helps with most of the others. If they are relaxed and comfortable around you you will probably have a great call and get to do things not every other guy will. On the flip side don't be a white knight or do any favors for them or put yourself in a position where they are too comfortable with you and think they can take advantage. Always maintain the attitude that this is a business transaction. Be nice. But also be firm and not a sap.
Sometimes there is no rhyme or reason. One guys gets a crap call and another guy gets full bare back on everything the same day. All you can do is set yourself up for a good call by paying attention to the things you can control.[/QUOTE]Being clean is a good way to receive great service I always follow the hygiene rules being hairy downstairs is bad hygiene for male and female it's nasty when I want certain special privileges I shave my ass and use the enema I do not eat for 24 hours. But some chicks are scumbags and just want money without working for it.
[QUOTE=HunterJay;5916198]Being clean is a good way to receive great service I always follow the hygiene rules being hairy downstairs is bad hygiene for male and female it's nasty when I want certain special privileges I shave my ass and use the enema I do not eat for 24 hours. But some chicks are scumbags and just want money without working for it.[/QUOTE]Right on Bro. You have been around and know the deal. Some never figure it out. It's why you probably get whatever you are looking for most of the time. But even the most experienced mongers still get stuck with a bad call from time to time because nothing you can do will make the call better. The girl is just a waste of time. We will all always have to deal with that. Some are smart enough to avoid the obvious waste of time girls but some still slip thru. It is what it is.
[QUOTE=TailGunner1;5916244]Right on Bro. You have been around and know the deal. Some never figure it out. It's why you probably get whatever you are looking for most of the time. But even the most experienced mongers still get stuck with a bad call from time to time because nothing you can do will make the call better. The girl is just a waste of time. We will all always have to deal with that. Some are smart enough to avoid the obvious waste of time girls but some still slip thru. It is what it is.[/QUOTE]For me I virtually always shower right when I get whoever's room it just calms my own nerves. And generally I'm coming from work. If I'm coming from home I tend to have to travel 45 minutes or so. I want to present the best I can so I can receive the best she's got!
I basically do the same thing. Since I work remotely I always take a shower in the AM and generally right before I leave. Groom my finger & toe nails, clean my privates thoroughly, rinse several times with mouthwash and dress well. I do it to be be able to get the best service possible. I'll add that it's more than that but it's a good start and it can increase the odds for a better time but not always.
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First to all my fellow mongers, I am announcing my retirement from the hobby today. I always told myself that there come a day when it is no longer worth my time and I can see that time has arrived.
So if you been at this long enough, some odd ball things can happen to you. I had an appt in my business day fall thru so I ran thru some phone numbers from my flies and Ali was there to pick up my call. She was in Trenton with her roommate, also a STG advertiser, and they were about to call Uber for a ride back to their Bordentown motel. So I picked her and her roommate up in my car and gave them a ride for a price break on a blowjob. I have had a total of 3 or 4 dates with Ali over a 15 year period and today was definitely my last. She looked horrible, missing teeth, skinny to the bone body, the streets of Trenton have taken their toll and compared to what she was when I first met her, night and day. But there I was in Trenton, in for a dollar, in for a dime.
Now to what I really want to address, in the 15 minute car ride over, I struck up a conversation with her roommate. Nothing to look at, she isn't particularity attractive or have that good of a body. She told me her STG rates are $150 SS, 2 hundred a half and 250 for the hour and she averages 3 dates a night, 6 nights a week and 9 grand a month, cash. Now I don't want to denigrate the poor girl but if I saw her on the streets of Trenton, my opening offer would be $20 with maybe a $10 if she sucked every drop of pecker snot so I wouldn't even need a napkin. And she's telling me that she wouldn't see a guy for less than $150. The world's gone mad, absolutely mad paying those rates.
To me, that's the end. I refuse to pay anywhere near those rates and hereby retire to the sidelines. The Strolls are barren as the girls found the secret was to be able to hold on to their cell phones and advertise on STG. They are all yours now, I'm done.
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First to all my fellow mongers, I am announcing my retirement from the hobby today. I always told myself that there come a day when it is no longer worth my time and I can see that time has arrived.
So if you been at this long enough, some odd ball things can happen to you. I had an appt in my business day fall thru so I ran thru some phone numbers from my flies and Ali was there to pick up my call. She was in Trenton with her roommate, also a STG advertiser, and they were about to call Uber for a ride back to their Bordentown motel. So I picked her and her roommate up in my car and gave them a ride for a price break on a blowjob. I have had a total of 3 or 4 dates with Ali over a 15 year period and today was definitely my last. She looked horrible, missing teeth, skinny to the bone body, the streets of Trenton have taken their toll and compared to what she was when I first met her, night and day. But there I was in Trenton, in for a dollar, in for a dime.
Now to what I really want to address, in the 15 minute car ride over, I struck up a conversation with her roommate. Nothing to look at, she isn't particularity attractive or have that good of a body. She told me her STG rates are $150 SS, 2 hundred a half and 250 for the hour and she averages 3 dates a night, 6 nights a week and 9 grand a month, cash. Now I don't want to denigrate the poor girl but if I saw her on the streets of Trenton, my opening offer would be $20 with maybe a $10 if she sucked every drop of pecker snot so I wouldn't even need a napkin. And she's telling me that she wouldn't see a guy for less than $150. The world's gone mad, absolutely mad paying those rates.
To me, that's the end. I refuse to pay anywhere near those rates and hereby retire to the sidelines. The Strolls are barren as the girls found the secret was to be able to hold on to their cell phones and advertise on STG. They are all yours now, I'm done.[/QUOTE]Damn man, that's a shame. I don't blame the girls though. I blame the new generation of mongers who are basically morons who are paying these prices. They really will drop 3 or 4 bills on some rude ugly girl who gives them a 2 minute covered blowjob and they walk away thinking they did good. They will spend a good chunk of a weeks paycheck on that. I don't think we can win that battle and rule this hobby like we did 5 or 10 years ago when we controlled price and quality of service. These new dummies are spending money to get naked pics of some homely girl selling them on her * page as if there aren't enough free pics and movies on the internet. So they have no problem overpaying to see a girl in person who might show them one of her tits and that makes them happy.
Best of luck to you and I hope the hobby gets back where it should be so you can return. Peace Bro.
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First to all my fellow mongers, I am announcing my retirement from the hobby today. I always told myself that there come a day when it is no longer worth my time and I can see that time has arrived.
So if you been at this long enough, some odd ball things can happen to you. I had an appt in my business day fall thru so I ran thru some phone numbers from my flies and Ali was there to pick up my call. She was in Trenton with her roommate, also a STG advertiser, and they were about to call Uber for a ride back to their Bordentown motel. So I picked her and her roommate up in my car and gave them a ride for a price break on a blowjob. I have had a total of 3 or 4 dates with Ali over a 15 year period and today was definitely my last. She looked horrible, missing teeth, skinny to the bone body, the streets of Trenton have taken their toll and compared to what she was when I first met her, night and day. But there I was in Trenton, in for a dollar, in for a dime.
Now to what I really want to address, in the 15 minute car ride over, I struck up a conversation with her roommate. Nothing to look at, she isn't particularity attractive or have that good of a body. She told me her STG rates are $150 SS, 2 hundred a half and 250 for the hour and she averages 3 dates a night, 6 nights a week and 9 grand a month, cash. Now I don't want to denigrate the poor girl but if I saw her on the streets of Trenton, my opening offer would be $20 with maybe a $10 if she sucked every drop of pecker snot so I wouldn't even need a napkin. And she's telling me that she wouldn't see a guy for less than $150. The world's gone mad, absolutely mad paying those rates.
To me, that's the end. I refuse to pay anywhere near those rates and hereby retire to the sidelines. The Strolls are barren as the girls found the secret was to be able to hold on to their cell phones and advertise on STG. They are all yours now, I'm done.[/QUOTE]Yeah I agree the whole STG scenery is just dried up and saturated with BS numbers for chicks I wouldn't even turn an eye to if I seen them on the streets, but like the other fella said there are actually simps that pay for it. Like she said 3 dates a night with that rate she's good, so I don't blame these females at all it's just I've been at this for 10/14 yrs and I never ever seen it this bad. I miss the old days 50/40 ss 60/70 hh with great service and that was the regular numbers back than across the boards with a plethora of options. For the past yr or two I've been stuck with my 2 regulars and one of them I haven't seen since August and she stopped posting the other fell hard on drugs so I had to cut it off. Hell now the best options for me is to make a POF or tinder and just find a couple of FWB. Bc nowadays it's just way too dried up and ridiculous.
[QUOTE=DWills89;5917345]Yeah I agree the whole STG scenery is just dried up and saturated with BS numbers for chicks I wouldn't even turn an eye to if I seen them on the streets, but like the other fella said there are actually simps that pay for it. Like she said 3 dates a night with that rate she's good, so I don't blame these females at all it's just I've been at this for 10/14 yrs and I never ever seen it this bad. I miss the old days 50/40 ss 60/70 hh with great service and that was the regular numbers back than across the boards with a plethora of options. For the past yr or two I've been stuck with my 2 regulars and one of them I haven't seen since August and she stopped posting the other fell hard on drugs so I had to cut it off. Hell now the best options for me is to make a POF or tinder and just find a couple of FWB. Bc nowadays it's just way too dried up and ridiculous.[/QUOTE]POF is a valid option. Twice I have made contact with a girl and nailed her that same day. One was a one nighter who was very hot and an obvious sex addict. The other I saw for months until she wanted to get serious. I never spent a dime except for motel rooms and once bought the 2nd girl McDonalds. Not every experience is that easy and you often have to put in some work but you eventually will get laid. Just be careful because there are quite a bit of nutty women on there. But then again there are plenty of nutty women everywhere.
My preferred option is married women in their 40's and 50's. You would be surprised how many are out there and willing to mess around. It could be that girl you vaguely know at work or the cashier you start talking to at the supermarket. If they so much as give a hint that they are not happy at home proceed slowly and carefully throw some hints back and the next thing you know you are meeting for drinks and banging them and now have a side piece for months or even years. And every one of them have been just as talented as the best escort. You would never guess that but a lot of women you least expect are horny and talented as hell. The added bonus is that these women want to have sex with you because they have been neglected for so long and are in a bad marriage.
I certainly monger a lot less the past 5 years than I did the first 5 because of those other options. But sometimes it's still nice to just see an escort ad and nail the girl an hour later and be done with it. But it is getting harder to find any good new escort pussy. Many of us do start getting bored with our regulars and UTRs and want something new from time to time.