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I'd like some feedback from senior members & any provider that may be looking at this.

I used to frequent the AMP's, mainly because they were the safest and the routine was the same.

Over the years I've had a couple dependable providers, but for the most part providers come and go for their own assortment of reasons.

I think this website is a great resource, especially for known providers. But lets be honest, their are few dependable providers out there.

Their may be more, but there is a valid reservation in taking one for the team. Meeting a new and unknown person for the first time is very nerve wrecking.

Especially for people with more to lose, by making the wrong decision.

The major issue (in my opinion) , is the providers suffer because new hobbiest's are afraid to make the call to the unknown.

BUT, what if there was a way to verify who you were going to meet, and not just in coded phrases.

If you lurk on BP, CL, or any of your other favorite url's you will see a lot that you would like to try out. But they usually look TGTBT, they claim to be "independent" but are really.

A part of a "bait and switch" scheme, or they are LE.

My idea is a free community, where only verified providers can post, and hobbiest's can windowshop with ease and w / o worry or risk.

Providers pictures will have a watermark to indicate that the girl in the picture is the same one you will meet.

There will be no garauntee of your experience, only the garauntee that the person you set up the meeting with, is indeed the person you will meet.

Providing that sort of "peace of mind" would encourage more activity from all parties involved.

While I understand there are a few "senior members" with a list of reliable people to call, those members are in the minority, not the majority.

How great would it be to simply be able to go to a site, select your companion, and be on your way. Everyone prospers in this scenario!

I would like a few senior members & providers to contact me for more details & to let me know their thoughts or improvements on the information I've provided already.

I'm not looking to step on any toes, or get in anybody's way. But I know I would be much more involved in the hobby, if I knew exactly who was going to knock on my door everytime.

I look forward to your thoughts, ideas, and comments!

[QUOTE=Diver1248; 1233155]So I had a really weird dream the other night. In my dream I was going to see the Penny that has been reviewed on here. So I texted her, basically saying hey wanted to see what specials you had going on and if you were available tonight. The first red flag that I got was that she gave me times but never asked how long, nor gave me her donations. The second red flag is that she was available to meet 15min after my first text. So, at this point in my dream, I was getting ready to wake up and forget the whole situation but I thought,"oh what the hell, I'll meet you at XXpm. Now, based on the reviews I had read about other people's dreams, rates are very reasonable and she can usually be found in run down motels. In my dream however, she tells me to meet her at one of the nicest hotels in greater cincy. At this point in my dream, I am like f*ck this there is no way she is staying at a hotel that charges $15 a day for parking. What bothered me about the whole dream is that she has reviews and I texted the same number used in her reviews.

My questions are: 1) did I do the right thing by not meeting, or am I just a paranoid weirdo? 2) Any advise for future reference is greatly appreciated (as at this point I am a little bit of a mess and ready to give up on non long-time trusted sources).[/QUOTE]This is why I never use text messages. Never have and I never will.

I don't believe you can get a real sense of someone via text.

Most of these girls are on edge talking to a new client for the first time. They are reluctant to reveal too much. I know because some of them have told me so. Texting complicates things because whatever is texted is in writing which makes for stronger evidence and not as easily thrown out as voice calls due to wiretapping laws.

I much prefer the give and take of a real-time conversation. A simple question of how she wound up in such a nice hotel can possibly be explained as she was meeting a client who wanted to meet there because he works nearby and only has a short time. She then would up with the room for the rest of the day since it was already paid for. Or maybe because she got a great deal on Priceline. I know a provider who once got a $100 a night room for $25 there. Who knows?

But questions like that flow more easily and don't seem as suspicious as a question via text. I've even had a few girls tell me they don't respond to text messages at all.

Most times I've talked to a provider for the first time, I've sensed tension on her part. There's some on my end too. Telephone discussions break the ice faster, I believe, and will get confusion cleared up much faster.

Yes, trust your instincts. No one will fault you for calling it off if your gut says no. I'm just saying your gut might have told you something else if you had spoken with the young lady. Just my 2 cents.

[QUOTE=Stimulus; 1235209]This is why I never use text messages. Never have and I never will.

I don't believe you can get a real sense of someone via text.

Most of these girls are on edge talking to a new client for the first time. They are reluctant to reveal too much. I know because some of them have told me so. Texting complicates things because whatever is texted is in writing which makes for stronger evidence and not as easily thrown out as voice calls due to wiretapping laws.

I much prefer the give and take of a real-time conversation. A simple question of how she wound up in such a nice hotel can possibly be explained as she was meeting a client who wanted to meet there because he works nearby and only has a short time. She then would up with the room for the rest of the day since it was already paid for. Or maybe because she got a great deal on Priceline. I know a provider who once got a $100 a night room for $25 there. Who knows?

But questions like that flow more easily and don't seem as suspicious as a question via text. I've even had a few girls tell me they don't respond to text messages at all.

Most times I've talked to a provider for the first time, I've sensed tension on her part. There's some on my end too. Telephone discussions break the ice faster, I believe, and will get confusion cleared up much faster.

Yes, trust your instincts. No one will fault you for calling it off if your gut says no. I'm just saying your gut might have told you something else if you had spoken with the young lady. Just my 2 cents.[/QUOTE]There are advantages to both forms of communication. I think that it may well be best to integrate both into your efforts. Many ladies do not like to text at all while many younger ladies text almost exclusively. I will usually start via a phone call but eventually end up texting. I have had contact with ladies who will only text. There are no incorrect ways to go about this, just what ever your level of comfort is along with that of the lady. As always.

[QUOTE=Stimulus; 1235209]This is why I never use text messages. Never have and I never will.

I don't believe you can get a real sense of someone via text.

It does come in rather handy for brief communications if you are in the office and don't want other ears listening in, though.

I like to use a combination of communication methods, including phone, text and email. Often, I use email and text more often, because I seldom get a provider on the phone at the time that I call, and then she calls back and I'm at my desk, and it goes on from there. Email and texts allow for a little more flexibility in responses.

[QUOTE=Diver1248; 1233155]So I had a really weird dream the other night. In my dream I was going to see the Penny that has been reviewed on here. So I texted her, basically saying hey wanted to see what specials you had going on and if you were available tonight. The first red flag that I got was that she gave me times but never asked how long, nor gave me her donations. The second red flag is that she was available to meet 15min after my first text. So, at this point in my dream, I was getting ready to wake up and forget the whole situation but I thought,"oh what the hell, I'll meet you at XXpm. Now, based on the reviews I had read about other people's dreams, rates are very reasonable and she can usually be found in run down motels. In my dream however, she tells me to meet her at one of the nicest hotels in greater cincy. At this point in my dream, I am like f*ck this there is no way she is staying at a hotel that charges $15 a day for parking. What bothered me about the whole dream is that she has reviews and I texted the same number used in her reviews.

My questions are: 1) did I do the right thing by not meeting, or am I just a paranoid weirdo? 2) Any advise for future reference is greatly appreciated (as at this point I am a little bit of a mess and ready to give up on non long-time trusted sources).[/QUOTE]1) When a lady won't quote a rate it's usually and bait and switch or LE.

2) The Hyatt in Florence is quite LE friendly and more than willing to allow.

Multiple rooms on an empty floor to be borrowed from time to time.

I've seen Penny a couple of times as a second or third choice before as I like to stay in the Florence area. No doubt she's not top shelf, but I always got pretty decent service out of her. After this, I'll be staying away for a little while now.

Originally from So. Ohio and I see the plethora of s / w reports here and thought it worth mentioning to the locals that a trip through the portsmouth area would be a must for a one tank weekend trip. Although pharmaceuticals is a problem with the locals in that area, it is a target rich environment and not all that many problems with le. The gallia street area towards 8th street will lead you to a vast amount of appalachia treasure with great assets and attitudes and very reasonable demands. Been a member for years and glad to see the amount of sharing in town. A little bit of a drive, but worth the time! Good hunting!

[QUOTE=Redlegz1;1239155]a trip through the portsmouth area would be a must for a one tank weekend trip. Although pharmaceuticals is a problem with the locals in that area, it is a target rich environment and not all that many problems with le.[/QUOTE]I can confirm this one. I drive through there on the way to Charleston WV, and most of the girls look pretty good. Meth is definitely a problem, and the motivating factor for them being out there. The choices are plentiful though.

[QUOTE=WarlockKy; 1235488]1) When a lady won't quote a rate it's usually and bait and switch or LE.

2) The Hyatt in Florence is quite LE friendly and more than willing to allow.

Multiple rooms on an empty floor to be borrowed from time to time.[/QUOTE]I usually prefer when ladies don't quote rates and talk about services. That's how you get pinched, busted, locked up, arrested, etc. I would also never use anyone's room on the first date. I go to a previously undisclosed and spontaneous alternate location. LE won't go for that.

[QUOTE=Getnati;1239525]I usually prefer when ladies don't quote rates and talk about services. That's how you get pinched, busted, locked up, arrested, etc. I would also never use anyone's room on the first date. I go to a previously undisclosed and spontaneous alternate location. LE won't go for that.[/QUOTE]I agree with Getati. If a lady starts talking about rates and services, that's a big red flag. Do you homework. You'll find what you need to know. If new then plan on TOFTT since even if they would tell you, you'll likely find it different when the rubber meets the road. They may say GFE and most hobbyist will agree on what that is. Most new ladies have a different opinion if not experienced or not shown the ropes from another provider. I'll go back to quietly following the posts.

JM

[QUOTE=Jay Malibu; 1239551]I agree with Getati. If a lady starts talking about rates and services, that's a big red flag. Do you homework. You'll find what you need to know. If new then plan on TOFTT since even if they would tell you, you'll likely find it different when the rubber meets the road. They may say GFE and most hobbyist will agree on what that is. Most new ladies have a different opinion if not experienced or not shown the ropes from another provider. I'll go back to quietly following the posts.

JM[/QUOTE]Discussing services is a BIG NO in my books (and red flag) , but how are you supposed to prepare a donation if you don't know what it is? I would rather know what it is and have it ready so I can sit it down at the beginning. In my opinion, it would be much riskier to show up without a donation ready. With all of the quality providers I have seen, this is never an issue. It seems that this is more of an issue with Backpage- which continues to be discouraging. This is the first time I have tried to schedule a meeting, in which, I was not given a quote for donations.

I still need to work on the format of my calls / texts, but up until now it hasn't been much of an issue.

Ahh, the adventures and learning experiences!

Today in the afternoon WCPO news feed. Pretty skanky looking at that! :

HAMILTON, Ohio. After receiving numerous complaints by Hamilton residents in reference to prostitution, the Butler County Sheriff's Office executed an undercover operation which resulted in the arrests of 11 people.

The sheriff's office orchestrated the operation in the early morning hours of Wednesday. Females who made offers for sexual activity to undercover agents were immediately taken into custody and transported to the Butler County Jail.

A total of eight women were arrested. Undercover female investigators were then placed on the street and within a few hours, three men were arrested for attempting to get the women to engage in sex acts.

The following people are charged with soliciting:

Tiffany Castle. 23, of Hamilton.

Peggy Whitaker. 43, of Hamilton.

Amy Webster. 22, of Hamilton.

Ashley Wheeler. 21, of Fairfield.

Anna Campbell. 29, of Hamilton

Connie Proffit. 48, of Hamilton.

Victoria Dickens. 20, of Hamilton.

Christina Riley. 35, Hamilton.

Clifton Turner. 68, of Hamilton.

Zachary Parsons. 23, of Hamilton

Adam Simon. 32, of Hamilton.

Sheriff Richard Jones said residents expressed their concern for the safety of their streets as well as the safety of children playing in the area.

[QUOTE=Wingman Todd; 1240879]Today in the afternoon WCPO news feed. Pretty skanky looking at that! :

HAMILTON, Ohio. After receiving numerous complaints by Hamilton residents in reference to prostitution, the Butler County Sheriff's Office executed an undercover operation which resulted in the arrests of 11 people.

The sheriff's office orchestrated the operation in the early morning hours of Wednesday. Females who made offers for sexual activity to undercover agents were immediately taken into custody and transported to the Butler County Jail.

A total of eight women were arrested. Undercover female investigators were then placed on the street and within a few hours, three men were arrested for attempting to get the women to engage in sex acts.

The following people are charged with soliciting:

Tiffany Castle. 23, of Hamilton.

Peggy Whitaker. 43, of Hamilton.

Amy Webster. 22, of Hamilton.

Ashley Wheeler. 21, of Fairfield.

Anna Campbell. 29, of Hamilton

Connie Proffit. 48, of Hamilton.

Victoria Dickens. 20, of Hamilton.

Christina Riley. 35, Hamilton.

Clifton Turner. 68, of Hamilton.

Zachary Parsons. 23, of Hamilton

Adam Simon. 32, of Hamilton.

Sheriff Richard Jones said residents expressed their concern for the safety of their streets as well as the safety of children playing in the area.[/QUOTE]To bad that Victoria Dickens looks like a real cutie

[QUOTE=Wingman Todd;1240879]After receiving numerous complaints by Hamilton residents in reference to prostitution,.[/QUOTE]Oh, there's that famous "numerous complaints by residents" thing again. I call shenanigans. Let's all chip in and purchase LEO a new "Phases That Pay When Talking to the Media" book, shall we? Certainly there is a newer edition.

Sometimes it's all in how you ask. If they won't quote, or you don't WANT them to quote specifics... ask for an expected ' potential range of compensation'. That can give both parties the ability to have possible deniability, while giving an idea of how much might be needed to have on hand.

Just a suggestion.. :)

Jay

[QUOTE=Diver1248; 1239574]Discussing services is a BIG NO in my books (and red flag) , but how are you supposed to prepare a donation if you don't know what it is? I would rather know what it is and have it ready so I can sit it down at the beginning. In my opinion, it would be much riskier to show up without a donation ready. With all of the quality providers I have seen, this is never an issue. It seems that this is more of an issue with Backpage- which continues to be discouraging. This is the first time I have tried to schedule a meeting, in which, I was not given a quote for donations.

I still need to work on the format of my calls / texts, but up until now it hasn't been much of an issue.

Ahh, the adventures and learning experiences![/QUOTE]