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Re: how to play it
[QUOTE=TomMajor;6420092]Hey guys, do you have any tips for asking extras?[/QUOTE]Easy peasy, you just tailor it to the dancer's personality, so it not "one ask fits all".
My go-to club has been Ecstasy Theater, since it's most convenient as well as having a great track record for scoring. I walk in, sit at the stage, order my two required non-alcoholic drinks and start tipping whoever is dancing, even if she's not my type. Usually, another girl will soon come up and either ask if she can sit next to me or just do it without asking. If I think she's more doable than the one who's dancing, I'll start with the small talk: names, how long has she worked here, how long have I been coming there, etc.
Usually within the first few minutes, after she's asked if I want a dance in back with her, I ask something along the lines of: "Are you mild or wild in the back?" If she affirms wild, then I'll say "how wild are you," or "will we be getting freaky back there," or something similar. The right answer is "I'm as wild as you want me to be, baby!" If it's that or anything similar, I'll take the plunge. Sometimes, if I can tell that the girl is open to specifics, on occasion I've even asked if we can go bare, and that request has been fulfilled on rare occasions.
On the other hand, if the girl on stage intrigues me more, I'll say to the girl who is next me, "Thanks, and maybe later, because I just got here and first want to watch the girls dance. " Then I'll tip the stage girl more and ask her to come sit with me when she's done dancing.
Always have the conversation earlier on so you don't waste your time. Just do it.
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Thanks man. That was a good suggestion. How much should one shell out for lap dance? On rare ocassion, what they do bare?
[QUOTE=Sticker;6420316]Easy peasy, you just tailor it to the dancer's personality, so it not "one ask fits all".
My go-to club has been Ecstasy Theater, since it's most convenient as well as having a great track record for scoring. I walk in, sit at the stage, order my two required non-alcoholic drinks and start tipping whoever is dancing, even if she's not my type. Usually, another girl will soon come up and either ask if she can sit next to me or just do it without asking. If I think she's more doable than the one who's dancing, I'll start with the small talk: names, how long has she worked here, how long have I been coming there, etc.
Usually within the first few minutes, after she's asked if I want a dance in back with her, I ask something along the lines of: "Are you mild or wild in the back?" If she affirms wild, then I'll say "how wild are you," or "will we be getting freaky back there," or something similar. The right answer is "I'm as wild as you want me to be, baby!" If it's that or anything similar, I'll take the plunge. Sometimes, if I can tell that the girl is open to specifics, on occasion I've even asked if we can go bare, and that request has been fulfilled on rare occasions.
On the other hand, if the girl on stage intrigues me more, I'll say to the girl who is next me, "Thanks, and maybe later, because I just got here and first want to watch the girls dance. " Then I'll tip the stage girl more and ask her to come sit with me when she's done dancing.
Always have the conversation earlier on so you don't waste your time. Just do it.[/QUOTE]
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[QUOTE=Sticker;6420316]Easy peasy, you just tailor it to the dancer's personality, so it not "one ask fits all".
My go-to club has been Ecstasy Theater, since it's most convenient as well as having a great track record for scoring. I walk in, sit at the stage, order my two required non-alcoholic drinks and start tipping whoever is dancing, even if she's not my type. Usually, another girl will soon come up and either ask if she can sit next to me or just do it without asking. If I think she's more doable than the one who's dancing, I'll start with the small talk: names, how long has she worked here, how long have I been coming there, etc.
Usually within the first few minutes, after she's asked if I want a dance in back with her, I ask something along the lines of: "Are you mild or wild in the back?" If she affirms wild, then I'll say "how wild are you," or "will we be getting freaky back there," or something similar. The right answer is "I'm as wild as you want me to be, baby!" If it's that or anything similar, I'll take the plunge. Sometimes, if I can tell that the girl is open to specifics, on occasion I've even asked if we can go bare, and that request has been fulfilled on rare occasions.
On the other hand, if the girl on stage intrigues me more, I'll say to the girl who is next me, "Thanks, and maybe later, because I just got here and first want to watch the girls dance. " Then I'll tip the stage girl more and ask her to come sit with me when she's done dancing.
Always have the conversation earlier on so you don't waste your time. Just do it.[/QUOTE]Super solid advice.
Is ecstasy very good in the day? I almost went yesterday (Saturday) around like 6 but the parking lot only had like 5 cars so I figured there wasnt many dancers. Went to the library instead assuming it would be more poppin on a Saturday afternoon and it only had 3 dancers though they were all decently hot and super cool. They said other Saturday afternoons are better but unconfirmed.
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[QUOTE=Sticker;6364668]Anyone else try Phoenix at Ecstasy? I saw her on Saturday afternoon. The place was dead, not a monger in sight unless one was in the back.
She swooped in on me before I could even sit down, and because I had just come from lunch and several drinks, I just went with the flow. She's a little more on the voluptuous side, rather than slim and curvy like Daly, but pretty good looking overall Black, with maybe something else mixed in?
I clarified with her before we went back about not using a cover, and she whispered that it would not be needed for a BJ, and we'd have to see about ditching one for the main act. She also said how much she likes to kiss, so off we went.
Lots of kissing, then lots of dining on her, which she couldn't get enough of. So much so, that it went halfway into the second song before I could get her to return the favor. But she returned it well and loves to suck cock.
Then I briefly went down on her again to get her riled up before entering her bareback, at which point she just said, "you're not going to give me babies, are you?, while still allowing the plunge.
We did mish, cowgirl and doggy, and although it was tons of fun, the lunchtime cocktails had dulled my senses a bit and I couldn't blast, 5 songs into it. So I pulled out as song 6 started, and she sucked me dry.
Then she laughed about how going "raw dog" with me was worth $1 k, and I laughed and said, I'll give you more than my standard $200 here, and gave her 3 bills, which she was happy with. We also exchanged digits.
But more Sticker shock in realizing I owed Ecstasy another $300 for the 6 songs, so next time I'll skip the drinks and get the job done earlier.
Although I enjoyed my fun with Phoenix, she's not my fav type, so I'm not sure whether I'll sample her in the future or not.
Before anyone tells me I'm crazy for spending so much, guilty as charged. But if you're going to Ecstasy for FS, especially BBFS, you're not going to get out of the place for less than several C-notes. My preference is my hush-hush ATF or my plan B AMPs, but I do like to mix it up everyone once in a while with the strippy club providers.[/QUOTE]I haven't been to Ecstasy for over 20 yrs. Now I understand why I owed over a 1 k on my Amex card when I left. Got lost in the girl and the songs and did way to many. Having to pay the girl and then pay the club is unusual. I guess you have to give a good tip for the special favors. I remember being in a daze after paying over 1 k that time.
My favorites were TJs and Sahara back then. Believe it or not back in the day you could get $10 lap dances and $50 for the backroom and still have a good time with the girl. So now I want to check these places out again. I miss it!!
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[QUOTE=TomMajor;6420092]Hey guys, do you have any tips for asking extras?
I understand that almost every one in nude club offers extra, that's their way to live, but I don't know how to ask first, I always waiting for them to offer, a bit waste of time, and sometimes they said I need to discuss it in VIP.
In your experience, what's the best way to ask about these extras? Should I directly inquire at the beginning, or wait until the conversation becomes more in-depth to appear less eager?[/QUOTE]Don't wait until you're in the VIP, and your VIP $ is already spent, just to find out what she'll do & at what price. That's a recipe for disaster. Talk about it on the floor. Get the rap going with some small talk, and when it turns to do you want a VIP, just say "hey I'd like to have sex with you, are you good with that?" If so, then how much tip for (the act you want), I typically pay $100 for FS" (lowballing from actual market price). Then start negotiating, and be ready to walk on to the next girl if you can't reach an acceptable price. Don't be worried about embarrassing or offending her; they get asked this all day. If she's vague ("you'll love it" "my dances are hot" etc.) don't be a sucker, nail down the details or she'll likely stiff you & say it's your fault for misunderstanding her. If she says I don't do that, say "I respect that" and start looking for another. On limited occasions I'll take a test drive lap dance just to break the ice and then ask, but I have discretionary income to do that. It works just as well to ask straight up. Remember, it's a transaction. Some will bite, some won't, some will want too much. But if you work it right, eventually you'll get what you want at or near the price you want to pay. Or you go home & masturbate at worst haha.
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[QUOTE=Sticker;6420316]Easy peasy, you just tailor it to the dancer's personality, so it not "one ask fits all".
My go-to club has been Ecstasy Theater, since it's most convenient as well as having a great track record for scoring. I walk in, sit at the stage, order my two required non-alcoholic drinks and start tipping whoever is dancing, even if she's not my type. Usually, another girl will soon come up and either ask if she can sit next to me or just do it without asking. If I think she's more doable than the one who's dancing, I'll start with the small talk: names, how long has she worked here, how long have I been coming there, etc.
Usually within the first few minutes, after she's asked if I want a dance in back with her, I ask something along the lines of: "Are you mild or wild in the back?" If she affirms wild, then I'll say "how wild are you," or "will we be getting freaky back there," or something similar. The right answer is "I'm as wild as you want me to be, baby!" If it's that or anything similar, I'll take the plunge. Sometimes, if I can tell that the girl is open to specifics, on occasion I've even asked if we can go bare, and that request has been fulfilled on rare occasions.
On the other hand, if the girl on stage intrigues me more, I'll say to the girl who is next me, "Thanks, and maybe later, because I just got here and first want to watch the girls dance. " Then I'll tip the stage girl more and ask her to come sit with me when she's done dancing.
Always have the conversation earlier on so you don't waste your time. Just do it.[/QUOTE]Thanks for sharing your sage advice, it's truly enlightening!
After completing my 1st year in this game, the only thing I figured out is that milfs are usually more practical and open to negotiation, as experience has taught them how things work.
And with dark light VIP room, face is less noticable than the body type. I may have hot girl with lap dance and some grind, then have a reasonable price sub for the deed. I'm all for young&hot, but sometimes, a MILF is just fine. My dick might not notice the age difference, but my wallet sure does!
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[QUOTE=Superflytnt;6377536]I'm guessing it's Kitty. She checks all my boxes: trashy white MILF dirty blonde and fat puss and ass.[/QUOTE]Kitty is a relentless & annoying upseller, at least with me. Very fuckable stripper look, but damn it's all "pay me" BS all the time. Tiresome & not fun, maybe she's nicer with others.
I second Kourtney, thickish blonde with round tits. Good attitude, no BS, gets better if you get to know her a little & she relaxes.
Luna is the Village Bike, but riding is better than walking haha. I don't think I'm her type, she's clearly just going through the motions but again sometimes that's irrelevant.
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[QUOTE=TomMajor;6420653]Thanks for sharing your sage advice, it's truly enlightening!
After completing my 1st year in this game, the only thing I figured out is that milfs are usually more practical and open to negotiation, as experience has taught them how things work. And with dark light VIP room, face is less noticable than the body type. I may have hot girl with lap dance and some grind, then have a reasonable price sub for the deed. I'm all for young&hot, but sometimes, a MILF is just fine. My dick might not notice the age difference, but my wallet sure does![/QUOTE]Totally agree with this. Dancers are more reasonable when earning money to feed their kid than to buy a new designer purse. Older veteran dancers who keep themselves in shape and who appreciate no-BS customers are my favorites. Young & hot is great, but young & dumb and young & delusional is the downside. Maybe if I was 25 and wanted to bar hop with them I'd feel otherwise, but I just want a pleasant physical encounter & "looking forward to your bench visit" LOL.
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Ecstasy etiquette
[QUOTE=Voyeurism;6420340]Thanks man. That was a good suggestion. How much should one shell out for lap dance? On rare ocassion, what they do bare?[/QUOTE]Not sure about TJs and Sahara, but if you want CFS at Ecstasy, tell the girl that you always pay the girls $200, which includes BBBJ. You can, of course start with naming a lower amount, but the girls all know what the minimum going rate is, so they may call BS on a lower number. On the other hand, they may quote a higher number, but unless she's a 9+ I suggest not budging and look for someone else. For the rare girls that are open to BBFS, although I had it from several of them there pre-Covid for two bills, I haven't been that lucky these days. Except with Phoenix, the attractive black girl, should be down for that for $300.
Also, as others have noted, you also have to pay for the songs at $50 a pop until you pop. Depending on your capabilities, that can really add up. When I saw Phoenix, it was after a three-Martini lunch, so after her sucking, DATY, more sucking and then fucking, I was up to six songs, for a total of $600 for her and the songs. Not chump change. I have some discretionary income, but I still don't like to put that kind of green out on a regular basis for playing, so I stick with non-stripclub options most of the time.
Two more things to note with Ecstasy: 1) The girls usually let the song-counter dude know how many songs to charge you. You can tell the cool girls that you'll want to head in back after the next song starts so you both can strip and get ready without that counting as a song. Same thing for at the end if you blast midway through a song and then need to get dressed. (Make that last song count as getting dressed time, not pay for that song time). This can save you a $100.2) Another monger mentioned negotiating $100 to start. If he meant for CFS, I don't see that happening at Ecstasy unless you've got rockstar looks and game. And probably not then, either. $100 will get you a lapdance there, but not a pussy plunge. At least not in my extensive experience there.
And for Frank: yes, Ecstasy it solid during the day; maybe even better with regards to full-menu extras.
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Ecstacy
This club used to have some models working there. My favorite pre Covid was Sofia, a Brazilian goddess. She was my absolute favorite. I met Luna there as well, she's also very good imo. But I'm looking for something new there, something similar to those 2. Any recommendations?
Also not a fan of Pheonix, negotiated anal with her one time. An she kept squirming an saying its too big it won't fit. F'ing annoying. Waste of time an money.
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Alternative
[QUOTE=Spineda;6421786]This club used to have some models working there. My favorite pre Covid was Sofia, a Brazilian goddess. She was my absolute favorite. I met Luna there as well, she's also very good imo. But I'm looking for something new there, something similar to those 2. Any recommendations? Also not a fan of Pheonix, negotiated anal with her one time. An she kept squirming an saying its too big it won't fit. F'ing annoying. Waste of time an money.[/QUOTE]Well even though I did have fun with Phoenix, I'll admit she's not exactly my type either. But the only other girl I've had there post-Covid, was Daly (2 x), a gorgeous younger light-skinned black girl with some tasteful tattoos and a great attitude. She's down for BBBJ and DATY, but she wouldn't go bare. If I see her there again, I'll repeat.
I also sampled Sofia pre-Covid, and she was lots of fun. She allowed bare with a pull-out before the blast, and GFE all the way, but honestly, her bolt-ons are so big that they weren't as appealing for me. I also did her roommate, skinny white Camilla, at Ecstasy. Also bare with a pull-out at the end. A+ cups, but I enjoyed her.
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[QUOTE=Sticker;6422086]Well even though I did have fun with Phoenix, I'll admit she's not exactly my type either. But the only other girl I've had there post-Covid, was Daly (2 x), a gorgeous younger light-skinned black girl with some tasteful tattoos and a great attitude. She's down for BBBJ and DATY, but she wouldn't go bare. If I see her there again, I'll repeat.
I also sampled Sofia pre-Covid, and she was lots of fun. She allowed bare with a pull-out before the blast, and GFE all the way, but honestly, her bolt-ons are so big that they weren't as appealing for me. I also did her roommate, skinny white Camilla, at Ecstasy. Also bare with a pull-out at the end. A+ cups, but I enjoyed her.[/QUOTE]Ya I miss Sofia. First girl I tried anal with, I didn't even ask for it. Was doing her doggy an she reached back an switched the holes on her own haha so awesome. But ya I'm looking for a Brazilian type like her. She was my all time favorite. So I randomly pop into ecstasy during the day sometimes, sit for 5-10 minutes, talk to the waitress at the bar to see what kind of girls they have an leave if I don't see what I like. After I Sofia left I met Luna but she's getting kinda old for me, I need new talent. Fellow mongers help a brother out.
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[QUOTE=Sticker;6421201]Not sure about TJs and Sahara, but if you want CFS at Ecstasy, tell the girl that you always pay the girls $200…Another monger mentioned negotiating $100 to start. If he meant for CFS, I don't see that happening at Ecstasy unless you've got rockstar looks and game. And probably not then, either. $100 will get you a lapdance there, but not a pussy plunge. At least not in my extensive experience there….[/QUOTE]This is correct: Ecstasy requires more money. I was just giving an example, more applicable to the lower echelon clubs like TJ's, Sahara, CGSA, Imperial, COI, etc. If you say $100 at Ecstasy or BELAX, or even SRCOI these days, the girls will laugh at you & probably blackball you as an idiot cheapskate. This is why sharing info is so valuable: clubs vary, and you'll get better results if you know how they vary.
Personally, I would never BB a stripper's clam: too much risk and with the right condom I don't feel much difference. But that's my opinion, I know others feel differently and will accept whatever risk for the reward. I'm protected (relatively), so go ahead & do your thing guys.
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Codi at Ecstasy
Has anyone messed around with a stripper named Codi at Ecstasy? I met her the other night and she offered me her services outside the club. Any information good or bad including price points would be helpful. She's totally my type and I'd love to spend some alone time with her, but I don't want to get scammed or taken either.
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[QUOTE=Druupie;6423403]Has anyone messed around with a stripper named Codi at Ecstasy? I met her the other night and she offered me her services outside the club. Any information good or bad including price points would be helpful. She's totally my type and I'd love to spend some alone time with her, but I don't want to get scammed or taken either.[/QUOTE]A first time poster like you is more likely to get a serious answer to this type of question if they share some intel first. Who've you danced with, what did you get, what did it cost. Bad experiences are just as helpful as good.
That said, I've not seen her & can't help you.