"Sugarbabies" / "Arrangements" Amateurs or Not?

[QUOTE=JohnHandCock;4902479]Sorry but an arrangement whether paid monthly, weekly, bi weekly or however it's worked out is still a ppm anyway you want to try and justify it to yourself. Also it's not guaranteeing a exclusive relationship no matter what is agreed to so your putting yourself out there for the virus no matter how careful you are being. Also got to say only in California would a girl looking for help agree to a payment at the start of an arrangement and defer the others to the last meeting. Most rational girls expect the arrangement at least during the meeting but hey California girls are different. Beach Boys say so LOL. You apparently found a gem. OK.[/QUOTE]Sorry to offend. As others have often said on here, BikeRider, etc. , you get the bowl you're looking for. If you are going for girls that used to be on backpage, that wouldn't be a good strategy.

My SB for the last year and a half texted me a few weeks ago to let me know our arrangement, for personal reasons, had to end by the the end of the month. We went out with a bang tonight. She was the best experience I've have in the Sugar Bowl. She has a nice submissive side and a fun size body. Damn I'm going to miss her.

Can anyone point me to a petite Asian, 20 something freak?? 🤣129315;.

[QUOTE=JohnHandCock;4902479]Sorry but an arrangement whether paid monthly, weekly, bi weekly or however it's worked out is still a ppm anyway you want to try and justify it to yourself. [/QUOTE]This is entirely out of touch with the bowl I know. I've met many girls who were very uncomfortable with being handed cash each time we met, was looking for more or less a "generous boyfriend" type that would help them when the bill cycle came each month.

Let's be clear, PPM stands for pay per meet, and I think for the sake of efficient forum communication, we should not try to re-author the dictionary of terminology based on our own personal opinions. Not knocking your perspective, just saying that to start hijacking terms that are already established in this forum is a bit disrespectful to the other members.

[QUOTE=FarFarAway;4902720]Sent out emails flogging an untested drug he'd like us to help him get on the market for coronavirus. This dude should give it a rest. His ego is too inflated.[/QUOTE]My guess is he has a financial stake in the company which holds the patent, because this medication IS available by prescription in the US. If he can get it approved by the FDA specifically for COVID perhaps he's hoping to re-patent it for that purpose. Physicians could still prescribe it off-label, however. Doesn't make much sense to me.

[QUOTE=OliverNP;4903774]This is entirely out of touch with the bowl I know. I've met many girls who were very uncomfortable with being handed cash each time we met, was looking for more or less a "generous boyfriend" type that would help them when the bill cycle came each month.

Let's be clear, PPM stands for pay per meet, and I think for the sake of efficient forum communication, we should not try to re-author the dictionary of terminology based on our own personal opinions. Not knocking your perspective, just saying that to start hijacking terms that are already established in this forum is a bit disrespectful to the other members.[/QUOTE]Hmm is this the same bowl that uses terms like GPS, where 90 percent of so called SD's try to negotiate a girls asking price (arrangement) down to what they think is appropriate, where by state law is considered a crime? I can go on but I think you get the point. Lots of girls feel more comfortable taking money for "bills" but it's still what it is. This has gone on since the dawn of time and oh I've talked to a few girls who was taken by guys who said they would pay certain bills for them to find past due notices in their mailboxes. Using terms that doesn't offend someone just makes you politically correct but it is what it is.

[QUOTE=JohnHandCock;4903824]Hmm is this the same bowl that uses terms like GPS, where 90 percent of so called SD's try to negotiate a girls asking price (arrangement) down to what they think is appropriate, where by state law is considered a crime? I can go on but I think you get the point. Lots of girls feel more comfortable taking money for "bills" but it's still what it is. This has gone on since the dawn of time and oh I've talked to a few girls who was taken by guys who said they would pay certain bills for them to find past due notices in their mailboxes. Using terms that doesn't offend someone just makes you politically correct but it is what it is.[/QUOTE]Well, if that's your standard, a lot of our SOs also would fall into the classification of 'the oldest profession'. LOL.

[QUOTE=JohnHandCock;4903824]Hmm is this the same bowl that uses terms like GPS, where 90 percent of so called SD's try to negotiate a girls asking price (arrangement) down to what they think is appropriate, where by state law is considered a crime? I can go on but I think you get the point. Lots of girls feel more comfortable taking money for "bills" but it's still what it is. This has gone on since the dawn of time and oh I've talked to a few girls who was taken by guys who said they would pay certain bills for them to find past due notices in their mailboxes. Using terms that doesn't offend someone just makes you politically correct but it is what it is.[/QUOTE]I wasn't saying anything about political correctness or hurting anyone's feelings, I was just saying PPM means something specific in the sugar lifestyle, and for us as sugar daddies in an internet forum we need some common vernacular that we agree on. The girls have this in droves in the FB groups they use for lifestyle chat with other SBs (and other forms of social media I'm sure I'm not even aware of). So if we as SDs can't get on the same page for a handful of simple terms then we're at a huge disadvantage.

Whether a girl wants, demands, or accepts PPM tells an SD a lot about what variety of SB she is, so I don't see the value in bastardizing or complicating what the term means here.

We can say all men are horny johns that will do anything it takes to get pussy and all women are body enterprises that are willing to accept some level of currency/goods/services in exchange for their pussy, I don't have an issue there. I'm just saying let's be effective in how we can communicate it and not degrade into a group of morons that think their personal definition of things is the right one.

More grist for the mill herewith:

One reason girls want a bill paid rather than cash is they are incapable of remembering that the easy cash must be used for a mundane purpose, like a bill.

I met a couple of them in Florida (pussy heaven). It was ever thus, but I paid one a low rate and she was hot but meeting her freestyle she didn't have any idea what amount to ask for. She was shy and didn't ask for an amount.

Some girls want the fantasy of a "rich boyfriend" and will brag about it to their broker, fatter female friends.

If they like you, the fantasy can be strong.

"They're all hoes" as the saying goes, but I like how society has changed and young girls are not so resistant to seeking arrangement type of activity.

[QUOTE=Dash;4904445]More grist for the mill herewith:

One reason girls want a bill paid rather than cash is they are incapable of remembering that the easy cash must be used for a mundane purpose, like a bill.
[/QUOTE]Some of the younger ones are simply freaked out by the concept of financial responsibility in general. I've had many arrangements where I agreed to cover a fixed number of expenses such as phone, car payment and dog food for a total cash outlay of less than $400 a month, yet was fucking them so many times per month that my actual per-fuck expense was less than $25 each encounter. And I'm not talking rats here, I'm talking gorgeous young girls. The trick to that was that I make the phone and car payment disappear from her radar so she doesn't have to worry or think about them -- I pick up the dog food and have it ready at my place to put in her trunk when she leaves the next morning. It's amazing how some of them will take that instead of the several grand a month it would probably cost if I were paying a couple of hundred per encounter.

Seems like we're getting caught up in what we're calling the various spectrum of girls on [URL]seeking.com[/URL]. Yes, I understand, all of them at some level are trading $ for their bodies. But to me, there is a substantial, substantial difference between someone who will flat-back for anyone (without ever seeing them) who can phone / text her, for $200 in a hotel room she has, and someone like those I have had ongoing arrangements with. I want someone who isn't available to all comers. Pun intended.

Anyway, anybody want to take a run at coming up w / the right acronyms for these?

[QUOTE=FeelGoodMd;4903791]My guess is he has a financial stake in the company which holds the patent, because this medication IS available by prescription in the US. If he can get it approved by the FDA specifically for COVID perhaps he's hoping to re-patent it for that purpose. Physicians could still prescribe it off-label, however. Doesn't make much sense to me.[/QUOTE]Don't guess. Merck invented ivermectin, they own it lock stock and barrel.

Greetings, I come seeking wisdom from you gents.

I've been in the bowl for a while, been only with Sb's that host. It's not common and I wanted to get my feet wet and explore more, but that would require me to host. I tried to do my research and I like the idea of doing a Hotels gift card and letting the SB book it under her name. Unfortunately that's only for one's that I already met and trust, but for first time SB's do you still book it under an alias with the hotels gift card and if you do won't the front desk still need your I'd to match your booking name.

I also read about prepaid cards (I think I messed up and got a gift card instead), but I wanted to ask if you put that under an alias and use it to pay upfront will they I'd you too.

I'm an amateur for hosting anonymously and I'm not sure if times changed and there are better ways (I'm old), but I would appreciate some wisdom. You are also free to PM me as well.

Mahalo and stay safe.

[QUOTE=FarFarAway;4905830]Don't guess. Merck invented ivermectin, they own it lock stock and barrel.[/QUOTE]No. It's generic. Any generic can make and sell it.

[URL]https://www.accessdata.fda.gov/scripts/cder/ob/patent_info.cfm?Product_No=002&Appl_No=050742&Appl_type=N[/URL]

[QUOTE=DreamCatching;4906901]Greetings, I come seeking wisdom from you gents.

I've been in the bowl for a while, been only with Sb's that host. It's not common and I wanted to get my feet wet and explore more, but that would require me to host. I tried to do my research and I like the idea of doing a Hotels gift card and letting the SB book it under her name. Unfortunately that's only for one's that I already met and trust, but for first time SB's do you still book it under an alias with the hotels gift card and if you do won't the front desk still need your I'd to match your booking name.

I also read about prepaid cards (I think I messed up and got a gift card instead), but I wanted to ask if you put that under an alias and use it to pay upfront will they I'd you too.

I'm an amateur for hosting anonymously and I'm not sure if times changed and there are better ways (I'm old), but I would appreciate some wisdom. You are also free to PM me as well.

Mahalo and stay safe.[/QUOTE]I have no idea how to book a hotel room anonymously. I just book in my name. I check in without the SB nearby, so she doesn't hear them call me by name.

It would be very hard to get an SB who doesn't know you well to book in her name; she will worry about getting stuck with the bill.

If you can't use your own name and credit card, a hotel is probably a poor option for you.

I just started using the Hilton app. You can book, pick your room, check in / out, and use your phone as the key card. They just started zero contact app because of coronavirus.

[QUOTE=DreamCatching;4906901]Greetings, I come seeking wisdom from you gents.

I've been in the bowl for a while, been only with Sb's that host. It's not common and I wanted to get my feet wet and explore more, but that would require me to host. I tried to do my research and I like the idea of doing a Hotels gift card and letting the SB book it under her name. Unfortunately that's only for one's that I already met and trust, but for first time SB's do you still book it under an alias with the hotels gift card and if you do won't the front desk still need your I'd to match your booking name.

I also read about prepaid cards (I think I messed up and got a gift card instead), but I wanted to ask if you put that under an alias and use it to pay upfront will they I'd you too.

I'm an amateur for hosting anonymously and I'm not sure if times changed and there are better ways (I'm old), but I would appreciate some wisdom. You are also free to PM me as well.

Mahalo and stay safe.[/QUOTE]