"Sugarbabies" / "Arrangements" Amateurs or Not?

[QUOTE=Dsprdo;4895401]Do you give her the monthly up front? I have on a couple of occasions and I'm batting 500.[/QUOTE]Offering upfront allowance is like begging to be ripped off.

[QUOTE=EvilTmp;4895673]Offering upfront allowance is like begging to be ripped off.[/QUOTE]Hmm, I've been here a few years, and have had countless SBs. I have provided so far $0. I usually negotiate a monthly (promised) rate, with a little sweeter sugar for the first meet (in cash in the FC). The initial meet is just that, after, we can both walk away if we want, and everyone knew exactly what they were going to get in advance. If you want a high-class woman, you can't treat her less than that.

[QUOTE=FarFarAway;4895276]Didn't have to. Accepted my offer of 1300/ mo for weekly.[/QUOTE]For those who would like a pic instead of words, this isn't her (this is an actress from an episode of Two and a Half Men), but the resemblance is pretty good.

[QUOTE=FarFarAway;4894915]This wasn't a case in the bowl, but still a good lesson. A guy is cheating on his GF. She catches him b / c he is wearing his fitness tracker. I guess somehow she can see its data, either they share them or he auto posts on social media. He makes some excuse to be away for the night, and she sees all kinds of cardiovascular exertion at like 3 in the morning. LOL![/QUOTE]Not sure if it was an ESPN reporter, but some babe on TV was the girl gettting cheated on.

[QUOTE=ErnestLl;4891440]Like the look, but worried the pic has an edge too it that looks too professional. [URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/cb47d766-952f-495d-9e96-4fa6a9f58779[/URL].[/QUOTE]I agree that the pic looks too professional (it wouldn't surprise me if it was "borrowed" from another site), and her story makes no sense. Why go all the way through nursing school if you want to go to med school instead?

[QUOTE=FarFarAway;4895691]Hmm, I've been here a few years, and have had countless SBs. I have provided so far $0. I usually negotiate a monthly (promised) rate, with a little sweeter sugar for the first meet (in cash in the FC). The initial meet is just that, after, we can both walk away if we want, and everyone knew exactly what they were going to get in advance. If you want a high-class woman, you can't treat her less than that[/QUOTE]Your description is intriguing. I want to make sure I am following. You promise sugar / mo (the "monthly draw" You provide a portion of the monthly draw during the first meet (if you agreed to $1 k and thought about meeting 4 times in a month, I imagine you provide 3, 3. 5 at the first meet)? If you meet her again, you provide the remainder of the monthly draw or another installment? If the latter, what happens in month two?

[QUOTE=Chaucer1478;4901342]Your description is intriguing. I want to make sure I am following. You promise sugar / mo (the "monthly draw" You provide a portion of the monthly draw during the first meet (if you agreed to $1 k and thought about meeting 4 times in a month, I imagine you provide 3, 3. 5 at the first meet)? If you meet her again, you provide the remainder of the monthly draw or another installment? If the latter, what happens in month two?[/QUOTE]Something like that. Work it out as you like, w / the lady in question. I am going for only high quality, and someone I expect I want to see for a while. Someone who doesn't want to feel like an escort, so they are shy about taking the dough. So you put it into a greeting card, or hide it in the flowers, or whatever.

I had a college coed I agreed to 2 K / mo. I did it exactly 1/4 the first meet, so 500. We wanted to continue. I gave her nothing the second meet. The third, she got 1 K, and I made it clear that was half of month 1. After 2 more meets, I have her her 2nd 1 K. And so on.

My largess has waned. Now I am going for about 1 K / mo for 3 meets (the girls gets her monthly or whatever). Unless she is stellar, as in this case.

IDK how you guys do PPMs w / serial girls. I am scared to death of the virus. I need someone I can trust more than when the only thing to worry about was an STI. And I don't BB, anyway.

[QUOTE=FarFarAway;4894905]\I am tempted to do what I usually accuse my competition of doing. Promising a lot just to fuck her once.[/QUOTE]I've never done this. I'm sure I'd get laid more if I did. So far I just can't bring myself to do it.

[QUOTE=FarFarAway;4893501]When I see a SA profile it is b / c I have search in proximity to me. I sometimes then see the location on the girl's profile change. This to me smacks of a semi-pro / UTR, like the girls who used to be on backpage did. Going around, getting hotels for a few days, and hosting.

I see a few profiles with LOTS of photos. What do you think this indicates?[/QUOTE]Yes this happens a lot. With a bunch of websites closed down, the girls moved to SA. Pretty easy to spot them; they won't meet up prior to a hotel date, and probably didn't view your profile, and want remarkably little chit-chat before trying to arrange a "date. " Those are the pro's.

[QUOTE=Bran001;4902151]I've never done this. I'm sure I'd get laid more if I did. So far I just can't bring myself to do it.[/QUOTE]Yes, and it is the guys who do this stuff (promise the moon, date them once, ghost, treat them like escorts) that jades many girls and makes it harder for those SDs who want ongoing relationships. So good that you can't bring yourself to do that! Appreciated!

[QUOTE=Shampoo55;4902212]Yes, and it is the guys who do this stuff (promise the moon, date them once, ghost, treat them like escorts) that jades many girls and makes it harder for those SDs who want ongoing relationships. So good that you can't bring yourself to do that! Appreciated![/QUOTE]Well stated!

[QUOTE=FarFarAway;4901680]Something like that. Work it out as you like, w / the lady in question. I am going for only high quality, and someone I expect I want to see for a while. Someone who doesn't want to feel like an escort, so they are shy about taking the dough. So you put it into a greeting card, or hide it in the flowers, or whatever.

I had a college coed I agreed to 2 K / mo. I did it exactly 1/4 the first meet, so 500. We wanted to continue. I gave her nothing the second meet. The third, she got 1 K, and I made it clear that was half of month 1. After 2 more meets, I have her her 2nd 1 K. And so on.

My largess has waned. Now I am going for about 1 K / mo for 3 meets (the girls gets her monthly or whatever). Unless she is stellar, as in this case.

IDK how you guys do PPMs w / serial girls. I am scared to death of the virus. I need someone I can trust more than when the only thing to worry about was an STI. And I don't BB, anyway.[/QUOTE]Sorry but an arrangement whether paid monthly, weekly, bi weekly or however it's worked out is still a ppm anyway you want to try and justify it to yourself. Also it's not guaranteeing a exclusive relationship no matter what is agreed to so your putting yourself out there for the virus no matter how careful you are being. Also got to say only in California would a girl looking for help agree to a payment at the start of an arrangement and defer the others to the last meeting. Most rational girls expect the arrangement at least during the meeting but hey California girls are different. Beach Boys say so LOL. You apparently found a gem. OK.

Sent out emails flogging an untested drug he'd like us to help him get on the market for coronavirus. This dude should give it a rest. His ego is too inflated.

Going back through my inbox / outbox, some profiles are dimmed / missing photos b / c the girls isn't on the site anymore. Some have the original username, some just say "Sugar Baby". A lot of them. I figure the latter are those who have totally killed their profiles and aren't ever coming back, so I clean those out.

[URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/8190b...5-005fe1722e47[/URL] - real, did a snapchat video with her. Has done this before. Open marriage. Says she used to get $500. Loves to dress like a stripper. Submissive, no anal.

[URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/8f408913-605b-4c30-a3c2-312fb192a657[/URL] -- not sure just how curvy. Says she has 36 DDD and seen her pretty face, but nothing showing full figure. Nice dirty phone call. Says she has done this before. Totally DTF and submissive. Not currently in RVA. Got laid off, with parents in SoVA.

[URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/25eac133-bd72-4217-88be-cc728b871fcb[/URL] -- super cute pics. Verified in real life. Poor op sec, let me track her down easily. New to this, has decent job, just need extra help so not desparate going to ask for gass money etc.