Rants and Raves

[QUOTE=SyD1971;5272197]Paul ain't handyman, he just hang out at his favorite CAMPs (happened to be our favorites too) daily. Wrong place, wrong time.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Niteluvr;5275345]Since your new handle and first post in the aftermath, you've come on as a hard shill for Young's. Do you have a problem with the truth? Perhaps your surname is Clark or the other schmuck who publicly proclaimed that Young's was always professional (paraphrasing)?

If you have a problem with the truth, then consider selling it elsewhere because nobody here who has ever dropped a load of man mustard at Young's at the hands of Emily or her girls is stupid enough to be drawn in by you.

The truth needs to be told and your futile attempts to suppress such truths need to take a fuckin' rest.[/QUOTE]Have some respect for those who've passed.

[QUOTE=Youngs0316;5276882]Have some respect for those who've passed.[/QUOTE]Again I agree with you. Let's just move on now.

[QUOTE=Youngs0316;5276882]Have some respect for those who've passed.[/QUOTE]I do have a lot of respect for those who died. Talking about them doesn't hurt them in any way.

[QUOTE=Niteluvr;5277151]I do have a lot of respect for those who died. Talking about them doesn't hurt them in any way.[/QUOTE]Night we get your point about the truth not being told about some things but we need to have some respect for the victims.

[QUOTE=TooHotForYou;5277421]Night we get your point about the truth not being told about some things but we need to have some respect for the victims.[/QUOTE]Lets remember the name of this thread is rants and raves, this is where you get to say what you want and nobody has to like it, how about we respect Nites right to post whatever is on his mind in this thread. To be clear I do not feel he is being disrespectful, I'm just saying in this thread you can pretty much say what you want, that is why its here.

[QUOTE=TooHotForYou;5277421]Night we get your point about the truth not being told about some things but we need to have some respect for the victims.[/QUOTE]What makes you think I have no respect for the victims? The victims do not care. They are gone. What I have no respect for is a shill like the dude you and I both responded to who doesn't identify who he is or how he's associated with the deceased, yet he insists on repressing free speech. In other words, he only gives a shit about his own personal agenda, whatever that is.

If his handle doesn't identify him / her / it as a self-appointed shill for no real purpose, what does?

[QUOTE=SkyWookie;5278232]Lets remember the name of this thread is rants and raves, this is where you get to say what you want and nobody has to like it, how about we respect Nites right to post whatever is on his mind in this thread. To be clear I do not feel he is being disrespectful, I'm just saying in this thread you can pretty much say what you want, that is why its here.[/QUOTE]Yes that's right and I don't think Night is meaning to be disrespectful either. He has made some great points but Youngs also has a good point.

[QUOTE=Niteluvr;5278316]What makes you think I have no respect for the victims? The victims do not care. They are gone. What I have no respect for is a shill like the dude you and I both responded to who doesn't identify who he is or how he's associated with the deceased, yet he insists on repressing free speech. In other words, he only gives a shit about his own personal agenda, whatever that is.

If his handle doesn't identify him / her / it as a self-appointed shill for no real purpose, what does?[/QUOTE]Night's post I'm responding to now has made me pay more attention. Who are you anyway Youngs? Are you associated with Youngs massage where the first shooting happened? Why did you even come on this forum to post at all? I mean I'm sure there are people on here who are sorry for the victims and their families but coming on here talking about them like we knew or cared for these people on a personal level like you may have is not the best thing to do.

[QUOTE=Youngs0316;5276882]Have some respect for those who've passed.[/QUOTE]We all do. They don't deserve to die. But the way Young's try to cover up and telling great stories about her simply make me sick.

[QUOTE=SyD1971;5273806]Ask any CAMP girls at Kaina / Adore they all know him. All the stories told by the Young's are trying to cover up their hug & tug business model, only news reporters will believe.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=TheWiseacre;5273910]It blows my mind that people, even news reporters, are complicit in keeping the rub and tug model all wink wink. "Happy ending" has been in the lexicon for four decades now, everyone with a brain knows what's going on.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=TooHotForYou;5273919]I don't know about that. I'm sure they don't give a flying fuck right now what people think of their business. All they want to see right now is that guy get tried and fried if that was possible.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Youngs0316;5273967]Why are you trying to invalidate what Paul did for work? Sure, he hung around the shop (s) a lot, but he also did a lot of work. Please, give it a rest.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Niteluvr;5274033]I know that many of those girls knew him. All I was trying to say was that he worked as a handyman and installed security cameras for a living.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Niteluvr;5274750]How does his statement above yours invalidate what the deceased did for a living? SyD1971 simply said the girls all knew him (Michels). His second, completely separate statement suggests that many who were interviewed about the activities at the jack shack claimed that all activities were legit. Young's, of course, was a jack shack, not a legit parlor and Emily herself waxed many a carrot.

Just do several dozen DNA tests on the floor coverings and you'll find a wide variety of jizz samples, mine included.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Youngs0316;5275109]And nothing more need to be said about it, may he rest in peace.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=TooHotForYou;5275184]If Youngs says Paul was a handyman and installed security cameras then take youngs word for it. End of that. If Paul was the stalker who was stalking guys who went to AMPs, and remember this is a BIG IF, then he won't be stalking anybody anymore because he is no longer with us.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=TooHotForYou;5275206]I'm in agreement with Youngs. The guy keeps questioning if Paul was a handyman and installed security cameras and there's no point to it. Guy needs to realize Paul may have been a handyman, installed security cameras. And may have been stalking mongers.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Niteluvr;5275345]Since your new handle and first post in the aftermath, you've come on as a hard shill for Young's. Do you have a problem with the truth? Perhaps your surname is Clark or the other schmuck who publicly proclaimed that Young's was always professional (paraphrasing)?

If you have a problem with the truth, then consider selling it elsewhere because nobody here who has ever dropped a load of man mustard at Young's at the hands of Emily or her girls is stupid enough to be drawn in by you.

The truth needs to be told and your futile attempts to suppress such truths need to take a fuckin' rest.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Niteluvr;5275378]The dude in question had serious issues, he chose to vent his personality here and, in doing so, rattled a lot of cages. I am assuming you know of his many handles and posts. True, his profession has nothing to do with his weird personality and nobody gives a shit about it, but you also noted that he was not exactly a respected guy by stating, 'And he may have been stalking mongers. ' Duh!

I think you've already answered your own concerns and the concerns of many. I personally will not contribute anything to his GoFundMe page (max has already been exceeded), but I won't waste my valuable time to shit on his grave either. YMMV.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=TooHotForYou;5275431]Like I said, in agreement with youngs about what paul did for work. Who knows if Paul is the stalker though. R. I. P. To a fellow monger but his stalking days are over if it was him.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Youngs0316;5276882]Have some respect for those who've passed.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Niteluvr;5278316]What makes you think I have no respect for the victims? The victims do not care. They are gone. What I have no respect for is a shill like the dude you and I both responded to who doesn't identify who he is or how he's associated with the deceased, yet he insists on repressing free speech. In other words, he only gives a shit about his own personal agenda, whatever that is.

If his handle doesn't identify him / her / it as a self-appointed shill for no real purpose, what does?[/QUOTE]So totally in agreement with Night now and the other poster who was saying Youngs was trying to cover their rub and tug business model. Long story short youngs is on this forum trying to denounce Youngs was a rub and tug, totally unnecessary too. Just stop posting Youngs, you're already making yourself look pretty bad.

[QUOTE=SyD1971;5278438]We all do. They don't deserve to die. But the way Young's try to cover up and telling great stories about her simply make me sick.[/QUOTE]Yes of course we should respect all the people who die, sick & alive.

Has anybody else got a dm from somebody who hasn't posted on here with only less than 10 posts on their handle claiming Paul was confirmed to be Oldti? It's just amazing how a tragedy can bring ridiculous people out to bullshit perhaps.

[URL]https://www.washingtonpost.com/national/atlanta-shooting-suspect-robert-aaron-long/2021/03/19/9397cdca-87fe-11eb-8a8b-5cf82c3dffe4_story.html[/URL]

This guy was in Youngs for an hour before he shot anybody. I wonder now what happened in that hour.

[QUOTE=TooHotForYou;5281391]Has anybody else got a dm from somebody who hasn't posted on here with only less than 10 posts on their handle claiming Paul was confirmed to be Oldti? It's just amazing how a tragedy can bring ridiculous people out to bullshit perhaps.[/QUOTE]I haven't gotten any messages but enough people have dropped enough "innuendo's" to make it pretty obvious that they are indeed one and the same, Oldti was an ass, but I feel bad he died that way.

[QUOTE=SkyWookie;5281786]I haven't gotten any messages but enough people have dropped enough "innuendo's" to make it pretty obvious that they are indeed one and the same, Oldti was an ass, but I feel bad he died that way.[/QUOTE]If Paul really did stalk guys who went to AMPs and threatened to tell their families or contact their about what they did then he deserved to have his face kicked in. I can only hope now that he didn't do something to piss that kid off and Paul was just at Youngs by chance.

[QUOTE=Youngs0316;5275109]And nothing more need to be said about it, may he rest in peace.[/QUOTE]This feels like the Chinese government telling us we can't talk about something.

[QUOTE=Dudeatl;5284325]This feels like the Chinese government telling us we can't talk about something.[/QUOTE]Yep, two thumbs up!

[QUOTE=Dudeatl;5284325]This feels like the Chinese government telling us we can't talk about something.[/QUOTE]Post of the year candidacy! I'm sure Youngs is realizing the so called friendly Paul was not exactly who he thought he was now and is getting an idea of what happens in the hobby some times. I doubt Youngs will be posting much of anything now.

[QUOTE=TooHotForYou;5283811]If Paul really did stalk guys who went to AMPs and threatened to tell their families or contact their about what they did then he deserved to have his face kicked in. I can only hope now that he didn't do something to piss that kid off and Paul was just at Youngs by chance.[/QUOTE]I feel for the man and his family but don't outright lie and call him a good hearted man, he was indeed an asshole.

[URL]https://nypost.com/2021/03/19/atlanta-shooting-victim-paul-andre-michels-mourned-as-good-hearted/[/URL]

[QUOTE=SkyWookie;5285040]I feel for the man and his family but don't outright lie and call him a good hearted man, he was indeed an asshole.

[URL]https://nypost.com/2021/03/19/atlanta-shooting-victim-paul-andre-michels-mourned-as-good-hearted/[/URL][/QUOTE]He may have been an asshole to you and maybe others here (on the board), but that doesn't mean he wasn't good hearted to the people that knew him.

[QUOTE=Youngs0316;5285129]He may have been an asshole to you and maybe others here (on the board), but that doesn't mean he wasn't good hearted to the people that knew him.[/QUOTE]You may have known him to be a nice guy. That's great. I just know you didn't expect to hear all this shit you're hearing now. Guy unless you have anything else nobody here is interested in listening to you. Not trying to be an ass here but it is what it is.

[QUOTE=TooHotForYou;5285192]You may have known him to be a nice guy. That's great. I just know you didn't expect to hear all this shit you're hearing now. Guy unless you have anything else nobody here is interested in listening to you. Not trying to be an ass here but it is what it is.[/QUOTE]I expected every bit of it.

[QUOTE=TooHotForYou;5284711]Post of the year candidacy! I'm sure Youngs is realizing the so called friendly Paul was not exactly who he thought he was now and is getting an idea of what happens in the hobby some times. I doubt Youngs will be posting much of anything now.[/QUOTE]If you think that's post of the year, you're really showing your ignorance.

[QUOTE=SkyWookie;5285040]I feel for the man and his family but don't outright lie and call him a good hearted man, he was indeed an asshole.

[URL]https://nypost.com/2021/03/19/atlanta-shooting-victim-paul-andre-michels-mourned-as-good-hearted/[/URL][/QUOTE]Two things:

First, the left wing media? You linked to the New York Post, a right-leaning paper owned by NewsCorp, parent company of Fox News.

Second, the article wasn't editorializing that he was a good hearted man, it was quoting his BROTHER. Were they supposed to present the opposing point of view about the character of a shooting victim?

Come on, man.

[QUOTE=Runon99;5285450]Two things:

First, the left wing media? You linked to the New York Post, a right-leaning paper owned by NewsCorp, parent company of Fox News.

Second, the article wasn't editorializing that he was a good hearted man, it was quoting his BROTHER. Were they supposed to present the opposing point of view about the character of a shooting victim?

Come on, man.[/QUOTE]We definitely have to make sure our political points are accurate don't we if we are going to call the media left or right fucking wing aren't we? Look, politics aside, the media always tries to find good things to be said about the victims of a tragedy right when their names have been released to the public and don't even think about how it could backfire if and when something bad was to come out about the victims. It happens all the time and nobody ever learns. If the shootings had happened at a strip club or swingers joint the media would've maybe been more careful with their coverage of the victims and not tried to make them look good asap because of what those places are about as opposed to an AMP. It is horrible when a lot of people are killed in a tragedy but that doesn't mean every single person killed in a tragedy should get coverage asap with positive things being said about them from family, friends, coworkers, neighbours, etc. Paul is an example here.

Here is something directed at Youngs too that needs to be made a point to be fair here. Youngs, nobody on this forum has said Paul exposed their dirty little secret of going to AMPs to their families. It did seem like Paul liked to taunt guys and had his way of making threats. Nobody has said Paul exposed their secrets though. Saying this, let's just drop this and move on. Youngs, my previous statement to you still is the same. Nobody here is interested in anything else you have to say.

[QUOTE=Youngs0316;5285129]He may have been an asshole to you and maybe others here (on the board), but that doesn't mean he wasn't good hearted to the people that knew him.[/QUOTE]Say what you want, but the majority of people who know of him think he was an asshole. His "friends" are a small minority.

[QUOTE=Runon99;5285450]Two things:

First, the left wing media? You linked to the New York Post, a right-leaning paper owned by NewsCorp, parent company of Fox News.

Second, the article wasn't editorializing that he was a good hearted man, it was quoting his BROTHER. Were they supposed to present the opposing point of view about the character of a shooting victim?

Come on, man.[/QUOTE]First off, Fox is run by Lachlan Murdoch (formerly owned by his Dad, Robert) who is a notorious liberal and has been heavily influenced by his leftist brother James (some leftist media outlets say he is a centrist- ha!. His and his wife's influence extended to leading Fox to publicly push Trump to concede peacefully before the results were even completely in.

Second, note that the Murdoch's donate $$$ heavily to Democrats including Biden and Buttiegeg and donated zilch to Trump. Fox has been perceived to be conservative because even their gay, liberal reporters (like Shepherd Smith) used to report FACTS and not opinion.

Third, Fox is owned by Disney, a notoriously leftist company.

It is more accurate to say that Fox WAS slightly right of center but they have since lost MILLIONS of viewers due to the leftist influence of Murdoch and their reporting which has gone left. OAN has long been the choice of conservative viewers and now Newsmax. This is nothing new; it is not a secret and you can read all about it anywhere on the web. Google is your friend.

[URL]https://theintercept.com/2020/11/06/fox-news-election-trump-murdoch/[/URL]

[QUOTE=Runon99;5285450]Two things:

First, the left wing media? You linked to the New York Post, a right-leaning paper owned by NewsCorp, parent company of Fox News.

Second, the article wasn't editorializing that he was a good hearted man, it was quoting his BROTHER. Were they supposed to present the opposing point of view about the character of a shooting victim?

Come on, man.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=TooHotForYou;5285607]We definitely have to make sure our political points are accurate don't we if we are going to call the media left or right fucking wing aren't we? Look, politics aside, the media always tries to find good things to be said about the victims of a tragedy right when their names have been released to the public and don't even think about how it could backfire if and when something bad was to come out about the victims. It happens all the time and nobody ever learns. If the shootings had happened at a strip club or swingers joint the media would've maybe been more careful with their coverage of the victims and not tried to make them look good asap because of what those places are about as opposed to an AMP. It is horrible when a lot of people are killed in a tragedy but that doesn't mean every single person killed in a tragedy should get coverage asap with positive things being said about them from family, friends, coworkers, neighbours, etc. Paul is an example here.

Here is something directed at Youngs too that needs to be made a point to be fair here. Youngs, nobody on this forum has said Paul exposed their dirty little secret of going to AMPs to their families. It did seem like Paul liked to taunt guys and had his way of making threats. Nobody has said Paul exposed their secrets though. Saying this, let's just drop this and move on. Youngs, my previous statement to you still is the same. Nobody here is interested in anything else you have to say.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=RiverRat99;5286205]First off, Fox is run by Lachlan Murdoch (formerly owned by his Dad, Robert) who is a notorious liberal and has been heavily influenced by his leftist brother James (some leftist media outlets say he is a centrist- ha!. His and his wife's influence extended to leading Fox to publicly push Trump to concede peacefully before the results were even completely in.

Second, note that the Murdoch's donate $$$ heavily to Democrats including Biden and Buttiegeg and donated zilch to Trump. Fox has been perceived to be conservative because even their gay, liberal reporters (like Shepherd Smith) used to report FACTS and not opinion.

Third, Fox is owned by Disney, a notoriously leftist company.

It is more accurate to say that Fox WAS slightly right of center but they have since lost MILLIONS of viewers due to the leftist influence of Murdoch and their reporting which has gone left. OAN has long been the choice of conservative viewers and now Newsmax. This is nothing new; it is not a secret and you can read all about it anywhere on the web. Google is your friend.

[URL]https://theintercept.com/2020/11/06/fox-news-election-trump-murdoch/[/URL][/QUOTE]As I was saying, we definitely have to make sure our political points are accurate don't we?

If you think fox is conservative you don't know anything about politics. Just because they have a few conservative opinion shows does not make them conservative. The actual news is left wing radical just like guy running them. Do your homework guys you just look foolish making statements like that.

[QUOTE=Youngs0316;5285417]If you think that's post of the year, you're really showing your ignorance.[/QUOTE]OK fuckhead, let me ask you this then since you seem to be so defensive about Youngs, Paul, etc. What happened in Youngs that day with that kid before he took a gun and shot anybody he could? That kid was in Youngs for an hour before he started shooting. Tell us you dip shit, what happened in that hour he was there?

[QUOTE=Youngs0316;5285417]If you think that's post of the year, you're really showing your ignorance.[/QUOTE]And you have severe tunnel vision. Why do you continually refuse to tell us why you're such a shill for Young's? You're obviously biased and refuse to acknowledge the full picture, but why? What do you gain from being such a jackweed? Brownie points for not being anatomically correct?

[QUOTE=TooHotForYou;5286397]OK fuckhead, let me ask you this then since you seem to be so defensive about Youngs, Paul, etc. What happened in Youngs that day with that kid before he took a gun and shot anybody he could? That kid was in Youngs for an hour before he started shooting. Tell us you dip shit, what happened in that hour he was there?[/QUOTE]I'm wondering if Paul said something to this guy to set him off, Paul was skilled at opening his mouth and shit coming out.

That would mean that it's possible Youngs is to blame for keeping him around. Just a possibility.

[QUOTE=SkyWookie;5286660]I'm wondering if Paul said something to this guy to set him off, Paul was skilled at opening his mouth and shit coming out.

That would mean that it's possible Youngs is to blame for keeping him around. Just a possibility.[/QUOTE]I hope Paul stalking guys didn't piss off the wrong person or wrong people for sure. Whoever this fucker is that's on here right now that keeps defending Paul needs to go the fuck on if he has nothing new to say.

[QUOTE=TooHotForYou;5286397]OK fuckhead, let me ask you this then since you seem to be so defensive about Youngs, Paul, etc. What happened in Youngs that day with that kid before he took a gun and shot anybody he could? That kid was in Youngs for an hour before he started shooting. Tell us you dip shit, what happened in that hour he was there?[/QUOTE]You're going to name call and insult somebody and expect them to comply with your request?

[QUOTE=Niteluvr;5286642]And you have severe tunnel vision. Why do you continually refuse to tell us why you're such a shill for Young's? You're obviously biased and refuse to acknowledge the full picture, but why? What do you gain from being such a jackweed? Brownie points for not being anatomically correct?[/QUOTE]Did you and TooHot go to the same school of how to win friends and influence people?

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[QUOTE=Youngs0316;5286971]You're going to name call and insult somebody and expect them to comply with your request?[/QUOTE]Either tell us something that we can talk about with you about what happened on the day of the shootings or move the fuck on. I now saw that kid parked his car for an hour before he walked into youngs and then he was in youngs for an hour before he shot everybody. Either tell us something to talk about or move the fuck on. For the second time now. You really seem interested in the shootings for some reason and you bringing your interest about it on a forum where men try to find pussy is disturbing.

[QUOTE=Youngs0316;5286974]Did you and TooHot go to the same school of how to win friends and influence people?[/QUOTE]Just answer my question, shill.

[QUOTE=Youngs0316;5286974]Did you and TooHot go to the same school of how to win friends and influence people?[/QUOTE]Addendum: Nobody wants you as a friend and you have no friends here.

[QUOTE=Niteluvr;5287304]Addendum: Nobody wants you as a friend and you have no friends here.[/QUOTE]Please don't engage a pimp, just report them please, they are not allowed on the forum.

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