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[QUOTE=Samurai316;4282068]Man. This place is great. Actually got nuru for the first time. Not all provide nuru & YMMV.[/QUOTE]Just saw Tina. Late 20's or early mid 30's 4 10 viet with ok medium medium light massage with a very very round butt. Saw a Jenny? Door 5 that looked good will try.
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Fellas, I'll be in LA soon and posted on the LA forum, but I'll ask here as well since I'll be a down further south as well.
Long story short, anyone know a place that provides anything close to CMT level massage? Wouldn't mind a standard finish at the end, but not required. Travel just really aggravates my already stiff back and neck. Thanks in advance.
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Krystal Q.
First off a big thank you for all that have contributed to this forum. There's a wealth of information, and for people like me that are complete beginners in the AMP scene, it's invaluable.
Now for the question. I will finally have time to make out out to the OC for my first massage and I am super excited about it. After reading up on all the reviews I landed on Krystal as the perfect first experience. I've gotten all the information I've needed to make an appointment (IG handle, general location, cost, services available), but what I haven't been able to find a straight answer on is how hands on I am allowed to be dong "nuru" - is there free roaming on her boobs and ass? Kissing on her body / sucking on boobs? A found a few reviews with conflicting information, which I'm guessing might just mean YMMV, but I wanted to ask the group here. If the answer is no on all counts, I may choose another of the faves from this forum for my first experience.
Thanks again! Looking forward to paying it forward in the near future!
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[QUOTE=OcLookin16;4279268]Where is this place at? Need some latina girls in my life.[/QUOTE]LOL Love the Hamilton comparison! Looking forward to my first experience with Krystal (or maybe Novia) very soon!
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VT Massage
Just curious if anyone had intel on VT Massage across the street from F&C. I've always been curious, but never pulled the trigger due to always being sucked into F&C's siren song.
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Sara
No need to feel bad. It sounds like Sara was comfortable with what you seemed to be happy with in regards to "service". It's up to you to set the parameters of what you expect in during your "session", as long as it's done respectfully of course. I would talk to her about it if you chose to go back to her and just give her hints as to what you would like. What I wouldn't do is go full on Incredible Hulk during your next session, where you are a totally different person acting completely different as to the guy she's familiar with. Sounds like you to have a great "working" relationship. Just let her know what next steps you want to take going forward. The worst she can do is decline, then you move on.
[QUOTE=JamesD2004;4282040]You don't miss out much. But you made some mistakes. Now if I want to collect unwashed panties, I need a warehouse. Either I have to hide it or I have to hire security so nobody else other than me can get in. Only CIP and CIM give you more pleasure than HE. Anything else is phycological rather than physical.
To make you feel better, tell Sara who your friend is and show her the pictures. I bet she wouldn't refuse if you ask politely and one at time. I also bet you won't enjoy cum on tits and smear her face every time; harder to clean up for your friend Sara. And you may have to tip more. Soon you will settle back to your old routine.
Sex workers are in it for the money. You 1st mistake is not to see how far they would go. But it is also true that they are what you want them to be. I had providers who behave like a respectable angel, offering HE or not. It's because I may actually ask her out on a real date, or else our social circle might overlap some day. But if you looked a homeless person, you could just grab her ass and molest away without her protesting, as long as you give a decent tip. You can treat her like a hooker or like a friend, no matter how others did to her.
Your 0th mistake is recommending your true ATF to your friend, or anybody else. Comparing any two people is a death match. There's no end until death. See that you are comparing yourself to your friend. It will only give you grief. Did you see me ever recommending my current ATF's?
As for getting extra services, often it doesn't make you special. Probably they are offering their extras to anybody who spent enough on them. You are a bit special if you get a free date. But you may just as well be successful in dating a non-sex worker. You may get an attractive HJ girl in bed. But probably you have to pay more than an escort. Now, even if you are lucky enough to be the only one who they bring home, you are just too nice to do any damage and always practice safe sex.[/QUOTE]
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More on extras
The background:
[QUOTE=JamesD2004;4282040]You don't miss out much. But you made some mistakes. Now if I want to collect unwashed panties, I need a warehouse. Either I have to hide it or I have to hire security so nobody else other than me can get in. Only CIP and CIM give you more pleasure than HE. Anything else is phycological rather than physical.
To make you feel better, tell Sara who your friend is and show her the pictures. I bet she wouldn't refuse if you ask politely and one at time. I also bet you won't enjoy cum on tits and smear her face every time; harder to clean up for your friend Sara. And you may have to tip more. Soon you will settle back to your old routine.
Sex workers are in it for the money. You 1st mistake is not to see how far they would go. But it is also true that they are what you want them to be. I had providers who behave like a respectable angel, offering HE or not. It's because I may actually ask her out on a real date, or else our social circle might overlap some day. But if you looked a homeless person, you could just grab her ass and molest away without her protesting, as long as you give a decent tip. You can treat her like a hooker or like a friend, no matter how others did to her.
Your 0th mistake is recommending your true ATF to your friend, or anybody else. Comparing any two people is a death match. There's no end until death. See that you are comparing yourself to your friend. It will only give you grief. Did you see me ever recommending my current ATF's?
As for getting extra services, often it doesn't make you special. Probably they are offering their extras to anybody who spent enough on them. You are a bit special if you get a free date. But you may just as well be successful in dating a non-sex worker. You may get an attractive HJ girl in bed. But probably you have to pay more than an escort. Now, even if you are lucky enough to be the only one who they bring home, you are just too nice to do any damage and always practice safe sex.[/QUOTE]I got more questions:
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What if a provider did more extras with a first timer than with a long time loyal customer who tips more? Extras that she doesnt do with the long time regular and extras that provider swears she doesnt do with anyone else? The provider always said that she doesnt DFK (because shes a germaphobe) and refuses to do it with regular whos a big tipper but one day does DFK with a newbie who tipped far less. How is that explained?
I did want to add that it turns out that this "newbie" was new to her but far from being new to the game. That newbie engages in BB activities and eats ass at places like F&C but loves to make out with providers. If anyone were to have anything it would be this newbie. What seems interesting is that the provider always seems to frown upon kissing customers and always speaks out against it but yet ended up doing what she so passionately criticizes.[/QUOTE]That's too easy to explain, and plenty of explanations. But first, it's a deathmatch if you compare yourself with another live person. There's no end and it won't end well.
You probably don't know the whole truth. They can swear but it only counts if you witness it.
The chances that real newbies already have herpes and anything else are lower than the experienced.
Once I have a hot job and I looked the part so I don't even need to tell them. They always guess it right the 1st time. Medical coverage is the same as the CEO and I don't need to tell them. And hot people always have a wife already who cannot afford to lose half of everything. So I don't need to tell them I'm always careful, practice safe sex and checkup regularly. That made me an ideal client. I had an ATF who is actively gold digging so she couldn't afford to get nasty things; that would be the end of her way out. You cannot get married to a rich guy if you are carrying something that couldn't get rid of.
Most providers are looking for signs of dental coverage. Then you are likely to have others. I have all natural teeth and never bother to whiten them. I'm not born here so I get a pass.
As for DFK, some clients are more handsome than the others, LOL. Or just personality. YMMV.
The most important thing is personal hygiene. For DFK, one is smoking; it's hard to pretend to be passionate if you are being tortured. The other is bad breath. One main reason hookers refuse to kiss. You don't know you have it if you don't try to find out. There are simple self-tests but not reliable. Even if you do all the brushing, flossing, scrapping several times a day, you could still have hidden throat stones that are the worst offenders.
The average provider is quite dumb so we should not be surprised. This "newbie" pretends to be something he's not so I doubt if he's really enjoying himself. Everyone has a price so if you can't get the provider to do what you want for your offer, move on. There's always better pussies and lips elsewhere.
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[QUOTE=AeGuy;4278426]There doesn't seem to be a great deal of Honey luv since the departure of our dear, sweet Paris. I confess that I also mourn her absence. But let's not forget that HS and the sibling parlors DO still have their superheroes and unicorns Krystal's massage is as good as any I've ever had outside Bangkok, and she super hot and pleasant to boot! But I'm writing today about my recent session with Novia. Probably my third time. For the uninitiated, Novia is about 5'3", 110 lbs of positive hotness. She's half Guatemalan, half Puerto Rican, so light complexion with lush dark hair and beautiful dark eyes. Smokin' body (literally. She's a big fan of the kush). Anyway, Natural b / c's and allows gentlemanly access to most areas of her tight spinner body. You get the ideaunicorn.
So here's the thing about Novia. While a lot of ivy's girls are beautiful and know what they're doing, Novia genuinely ENJOYS the session; if you vibe with her, the encounter can be overwhelmingly great there's nothing mechanical about the Novia experience.
Some will complain that there's no FS at HS, and the fees are too high for a glorified HJ. But this misses the point to say a nuru session with Novia (or Krystal) is basically a HJ is the same as saying Hamilton is basically a three hour history lesson. Overall experience =10/10.[/QUOTE]Wow! What a recommendation! Can I still book Hamilton?
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[QUOTE=RyanE36;4282323]Fellas, I'll be in LA soon and posted on the LA forum, but I'll ask here as well since I'll be a down further south as well.
Long story short, anyone know a place that provides anything close to CMT level massage? Wouldn't mind a standard finish at the end, but not required. Travel just really aggravates my already stiff back and neck. Thanks in advance.[/QUOTE]I'd message Krystal on Instagram. I think she is out of town until end of May though.
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[QUOTE=Eblit26;4282485]First off a big thank you for all that have contributed to this forum. There's a wealth of information, and for people like me that are complete beginners in the AMP scene, it's invaluable.
Now for the question. I will finally have time to make out out to the OC for my first massage and I am super excited about it. After reading up on all the reviews I landed on Krystal as the perfect first experience. I've gotten all the information I've needed to make an appointment (IG handle, general location, cost, services available), but what I haven't been able to find a straight answer on is how hands on I am allowed to be dong "nuru" - is there free roaming on her boobs and ass? Kissing on her body / sucking on boobs? A found a few reviews with conflicting information, which I'm guessing might just mean YMMV, but I wanted to ask the group here. If the answer is no on all counts, I may choose another of the faves from this forum for my first experience.
Thanks again! Looking forward to paying it forward in the near future![/QUOTE]As with most providers its YMMV. For most of the massage I'm laying face down anyway, so can't roam; when facing up she's pretty open as far as hand roaming goes, haven't tried to sucking / kissing.
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My Kayla experience
[QUOTE=BillyBob33;4264429]Recently I saw Kayla at HS. She is asian. Face is okay, not great but not bad. Maybe a 7. Body is very good, very fit and tight with bolt on B / C cups. Face looks mid 30's, body mid 20's. Gave good service with P2 P.[/QUOTE]Saw her recently as well, but at Heavenly Hands (HS satellite shop. Much less crowded than HS). Yup, I agree that her face is okay, 6 - 7, but I would not rate her body as very good. She does have B / C man-mades, but she is more skinny than fit. In fact, IMHO, she was a bit too boney for my taste. I would say that she is late 30's, maybe even 40. However, her service was great. She really got into it with her nuru body slide. I paid for 45 minutes and she used up the whole time, even with an after HE massage and made sure I was thoroughly wiped down. Has a heavy Viet accent, but really nice and aims to please. Overall an enjoyable experience for me. Would I recommend. Yes. Would I repeat, no, just because she is not my body type.
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YMMV I would just go with the flow and see.
[QUOTE=Eblit26;4282485]First off a big thank you for all that have contributed to this forum. There's a wealth of information, and for people like me that are complete beginners in the AMP scene, it's invaluable.
Now for the question. I will finally have time to make out out to the OC for my first massage and I am super excited about it. After reading up on all the reviews I landed on Krystal as the perfect first experience. I've gotten all the information I've needed to make an appointment (IG handle, general location, cost, services available), but what I haven't been able to find a straight answer on is how hands on I am allowed to be dong "nuru" - is there free roaming on her boobs and ass? Kissing on her body / sucking on boobs? A found a few reviews with conflicting information, which I'm guessing might just mean YMMV, but I wanted to ask the group here. If the answer is no on all counts, I may choose another of the faves from this forum for my first experience.
Thanks again! Looking forward to paying it forward in the near future![/QUOTE]
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[QUOTE=MyFinalHeav3;4283111]I'd message Krystal on Instagram. I think she is out of town until end of May though.[/QUOTE]Until May 23.
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OC Barber and Spa.
I tried out a place in Santa Ana OC Barber & Spa.
It's really only good for waxing and shaving.
They offer haircut 1 out of 10, another words stay away from getting hair cut here. Only the old lady cuts hair.
Waxing and shaving is 8 out of 10. I have to say this was the best part of the entire experience.
Massage was 3 out of 10, only 30 minutes, but massage last like 10 minutes, then flip.
Only HE was offered and it was $80, little roaming of top and bottom but not inside.
Waxing and massage combo was $90 and plus $80 for HE.
I will not repeat.
So if you just want a good waxing or shaving and want he and don't mind paying $170 then your good to go.
Corner of Harbor and Westminster behind flower shop.
Girls are in their 30's.
Good luck out there.