Anyone know what happened to her? 35-40 ish Korean with a nice body?
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Anyone know what happened to her? 35-40 ish Korean with a nice body?
[QUOTE=Fffinster;5704104]I haven't even found any that do BBBJ / CIM. I wouldn't want BBFS. That's a recipe for trouble.[/QUOTE]BBBJ / CIM not too hard to find. But BBFS pretty difficult.
Drove by this Spa a few times and did not see much reviews online. Decided to try it out. Decided just to stop by around 9 am as their website indicated they were open. No one answered the door so I went back to my car and called. No response but they texted me back a few minutes later with pricing structure. 1. 6 standard. 2 VIP etc.
Went back around 10 a and saw Bella I believe. Her name escapes me. Basement entrance from street, nice set-up. Private rooms, massage tables, nice lighting.
Long story short nice enough massage, CBJ was weak combined with jer body type (no butt, wide shoulders, kept her mask on) wasn't feeling her. Opted for a hand finish and bounced.
Conclusion: full service spa, low key right in Tacony. Would repeat with a different provider. YMMV but I'd still recommend it.
[QUOTE=Thedarkstar;5706062]Drove by this Spa a few times and did not see much reviews online. Decided to try it out. Decided just to stop by around 9 am as their website indicated they were open. No one answered the door so I went back to my car and called. No response but they texted me back a few minutes later with pricing structure. 1. 6 standard. 2 VIP etc.
Went back around 10 a and saw Bella I believe. Her name escapes me. Basement entrance from street, nice set-up. Private rooms, massage tables, nice lighting.
Long story short nice enough massage, CBJ was weak combined with jer body type (no butt, wide shoulders, kept her mask on) wasn't feeling her. Opted for a hand finish and bounced.
Conclusion: full service spa, low key right in Tacony. Would repeat with a different provider. YMMV but I'd still recommend it.[/QUOTE]Did I understand you correctly that you shelled out 1. 6 for a HJ? I take it that no tip was involved, but that still pricey for that level of service.
Chuck Marvel.
[QUOTE=ChuckMarvel;5707138]Did I understand you correctly that you shelled out 1. 6 for a HJ? I take it that no tip was involved, but that still pricey for that level of service.
Chuck Marvel.[/QUOTE]Did you miss the part where he said her CBJ was weak?
[QUOTE=Korman23;5707857]Did you miss the part where he said her CBJ was weak?[/QUOTE]Everything was on the table. Lost interest I guess. Combination of weak CBJ and non preferred physical features just wanted to bail.
Hitomi and Co Co were my go to. There are quite a few spas in the NE. Wager I'd try a few. This one was a loss but I'd try again with someone else.
[QUOTE=Korman23;5707857]Did you miss the part where he said her CBJ was weak?[/QUOTE][I] Opted for a hand finish and bounced.[/I]
I dunno, maybe it is me, but if I go to a Spa expecting FS and pay that rate, and the end result is the only way I can get off is a handie, then I paid 160 for a handie. This what stinks about the hobby, no consistency or regulation, it's always YMMV. But the good thing about these boards is someone shares that bad experience so that others can decide how they might want to approach that Spa or avoid it.
Good discussion.
[QUOTE=Shampoo55;5708054][I] Opted for a hand finish and bounced.[/I]
I dunno, maybe it is me, but if I go to a Spa expecting FS and pay that rate, and the end result is the only way I can get off is a handie, then I paid 160 for a handie. This what stinks about the hobby, no consistency or regulation, it's always YMMV. But the good thing about these boards is someone shares that bad experience so that others can decide how they might want to approach that Spa or avoid it.
Good discussion.[/QUOTE]From my experience, Philly AMPs always offer what they offer. Ie, FS is always offered at a place that offers it.
Here it sounds like the guy had trouble getting it up so he just cut his losses and took the handie route. No shame, we all have off days.
[QUOTE=BeefNoodleSoup;5708274]From my experience, Philly AMPs always offer what they offer. Ie, FS is always offered at a place that offers it.
Here it sounds like the guy had trouble getting it up so he just cut his losses and took the handie route. No shame, we all have off days.[/QUOTE]LOL. Mostly true. However, I did get it up with manual stimulation and could have slapped the condom on and finished. Just saying.
[QUOTE=Thedarkstar;5708470]LOL. Mostly true. However, I did get it up with manual stimulation and could have slapped the condom on and finished. Just saying.[/QUOTE]I recently lost my erection mid playtime. As we were switching to mish, the condom came off. She wasn't paying attention and was anxious to get mack to business. I could have left it off, but I honored her wishes (since she put it on in the first place). I managed to regain my composure, slip it back on and finish in mish.
[QUOTE=Shampoo55;5675180]I hate to say this, but if you paid 160 for an hand job at the Spa in Delaware, then you over paid. That should be the fare for FS. Perhaps sharpen your negotiation skills? Girls in any venue will see or sense inexperience and exploit it! Sorry you got taken, but I have fucked at that place for 160.[/QUOTE]Was my first experience and since then 1) I've gotten better at negotiating prices but 2) I've never had as positive an experience as I have there. I know I set the floor high for myself now but since I've become a regular I've gotten more options for the same price. Spent substantially less at some other places in DE and had substantially worse service.
[QUOTE=CornLord;5709112]Was my first experience and since then 1) I've gotten better at negotiating prices but 2) I've never had as positive an experience as I have there. I know I set the floor high for myself now but since I've become a regular I've gotten more options for the same price. Spent substantially less at some other places in DE and had substantially worse service.[/QUOTE]Learning how to stand your ground on the standard industry prices in the AMP business and still ensuring you get enthusiastic service is all part of gaining the experience you'll need to have a good time in this hobby at reasonable prices.
One tactic I have used in the past when at a new spa and they think they may have someone who just fell off the turnip truck (I have an innocent looking face) is to help them understand that I know what the standards are in the industry and "that I can go down the street and get these services we're discussing at the tips I'm proposing. You know it, I know it, so let's please honor the market and agree on a tip that's in line with what's agreeable everywhere else in the area". It's stated calmly but firmly. It's not a threat, it's not angry, it's just matter-of-fact. Maintain a calm demeanor and a neutral-to-smiling face when you deliver that message and you'd be surprised how often it'll work.
That usually is enough to dissuade them of the notion that they're going to charge me a higher price than what's usual and customary. And if it's not, I'll thank her for the massage, get up off the table and start getting dressed.
If that isn't enough to change their mind, then it's likely I wouldn't want to stay there on the table and partake in what comes next.
[QUOTE=Jayke00;5710371]Learning how to stand your ground on the standard industry prices in the AMP business and still ensuring you get enthusiastic service is all part of gaining the experience you'll need to have a good time in this hobby at reasonable prices.
One tactic I have used in the past when at a new spa and they think they may have someone who just fell off the turnip truck (I have an innocent looking face) is to help them understand that I know what the standards are in the industry and "that I can go down the street and get these services we're discussing at the tips I'm proposing. You know it, I know it, so let's please honor the market and agree on a tip that's in line with what's agreeable everywhere else in the area". It's stated calmly but firmly. It's not a threat, it's not angry, it's just matter-of-fact. Maintain a calm demeanor and a neutral-to-smiling face when you deliver that message and you'd be surprised how often it'll work.
That usually is enough to dissuade them of the notion that they're going to charge me a higher price than what's usual and customary. And if it's not, I'll thank her for the massage, get up off the table and start getting dressed.
If that isn't enough to change their mind, then it's likely I wouldn't want to stay there on the table and partake in what comes next.[/QUOTE]I must confess and I'll be blunt, if I am kind of just renting a hole for the hour that approach is fine. I do like to pretend that they might actually like me and we can enjoy each other for the hour. I have always felt I get more mileage from tipping some extra up front. Sometimes I have gotten burned but over all if her attitude is good from the start the entire session is better. Making her feel like she is on sale in the discount bid, usually doesn't set the right mood.
I am not arguing that any approach is wrong. I am just giving my perspective on this. If I find a gal I really like I will often see her again and again. IF you're a one and done kind of guy, it doesn't matter so much.
[QUOTE=HarryBaldBallz;5710597]I must confess and I'll be blunt, if I am kind of just renting a hole for the hour that approach is fine. I do like to pretend that they might actually like me and we can enjoy each other for the hour. I have always felt I get more mileage from tipping some extra up front. Sometimes I have gotten burned but over all if her attitude is good from the start the entire session is better. Making her feel like she is on sale in the discount bid, usually doesn't set the right mood.
I am not arguing that any approach is wrong. I am just giving my perspective on this. If I find a gal I really like I will often see her again and again. IF you're a one and done kind of guy, it doesn't matter so much.[/QUOTE]Thats kind of the theory I'm going on now. I've went to a couple places where the provider was clearly treating things as a transaction and I didn't mind going back and forth. At least one place in DE still delivered enthusiastic service even after I talked her down. And for all I know other places may have been lousy even if I'd accepted their first offer. But at least at blue wave, being a high spender and a regular. Mama is extra polite, the providers give good service, and no one is expecting surprises which is pretty good too. Again, not bashing Jayke00's approach which can definitely work as well.
The rate is what her rates are. If she is a hot 28 year old with mad skills and an open attitude she will get her rate. If she is an angry 58 year old dead fish well she will demand a different rate. Once in a while you'll find a new hot young gal. Eventually they figure out what their value is.
I'm not sure about everything after your first sentence. If you can't pay, then don't try to play. If you don't want to pay, don't try to play.
[QUOTE=PhillyDwag;5714412]The rate is what her rates are. If she is a hot 28 year old with mad skills and an open attitude she will get her rate. If she is an angry 58 year old dead fish well she will demand a different rate. Once in a while you'll find a new hot young gal. Eventually they figure out what their value is.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=CornLord;5713015]Thats kind of the theory I'm going on now. I've went to a couple places where the provider was clearly treating things as a transaction and I didn't mind going back and forth. At least one place in DE still delivered enthusiastic service even after I talked her down. And for all I know other places may have been lousy even if I'd accepted their first offer. But at least at blue wave, being a high spender and a regular. Mama is extra polite, the providers give good service, and no one is expecting surprises which is pretty good too. Again, not bashing Jayke00's approach which can definitely work as well.[/QUOTE]Agreed that there's more than one way to get what you want. And if you're happy with what you're spending and you're happy with what you're receiving in return, that's really all that matters. I'm not the type who's going to whine and complain about "one monger ruining it for the rest of us" by paying more than me.
What keeps me with my approach is (a) it's working pretty well for me and (b) I am aware of my value [I]as a customer[/I].
I'm clean and clean cut. I keep myself in good shape. I'm nice, a good conversationalist and as attentive to my therapist's needs as I am to my own. Having an hour to spend with someone like me is worth something to a working girl who has no control over who walks in the door next; someone they'll have to service whether they prefer to be with that guy or not.
So I leverage my value to keep pricing to industry standards because as others on this thread have mentioned, there [B]is[/B] value in building a relationship with your therapist over time. However for me, building that relationship is as much about her recognizing my value as it is for me to recognize hers. That mutual respect for what we each bring to the table is important in someone I'm going to see repeatedly.
[QUOTE=LutherMahoney;5715881]I'm not sure about everything after your first sentence. If you can't pay, then don't try to play. If you don't want to pay, don't try to play.[/QUOTE]25 year old's that are freaky will get a certain rate. I know this and I know if I want it I'll have to pay the toll.
If a 58 year old dead fish tries to get the same rate as the 25 year old above well she is going to have many less customers.
Not sure what you're missing here. Each lady sets her own rates not the AMP. That is why they call it a house fee. There was basic Philly Rate over the last 10-15 years. It seems to be more fluid right now. Between the 160 and 200 rates.
Once in a while you'll find a spa that will hold tight with pricing. I find it to be more rare anymore. What used to be a set price is now more fluid. It still seems to range between the 160-200 range.
I have never had an issue with an extra tip up front. Most of the time it usually works out for me with a solid session. Once in a while it will back fire on me and I feel like that was a waste. I can think of feeling I got ripped off at a certain spa but I went back later and it was great session and a great value. Of course I let the manager / owner know about my bad experience. I let the Internet community know about that lady but I didn't bash the hell out of that spa.
[QUOTE=SamRocks107;5704868]Does anyone know what happened to Tina from Sun Spa? 35-40 ish with a nice body?[/QUOTE]She's back now took a vacation. And FYI she's not 35-40 LOL. I know her real age. Keep going way up not down.
[QUOTE=HarryBaldBallz;5720647]Once in a while you'll find a spa that will hold tight with pricing. I find it to be more rare anymore. What used to be a set price is now more fluid. It still seems to range between the 160-200 range.
I have never had an issue with an extra tip up front. Most of the time it usually works out for me with a solid session. Once in a while it will back fire on me and I feel like that was a waste. I can think of feeling I got ripped off at a certain spa but I went back later and it was great session and a great value. Of course I let the manager / owner know about my bad experience. I let the Internet community know about that lady but I didn't bash the hell out of that spa.[/QUOTE]These days many inflation is causing many things to cost up to 50% more but I'm glad many of my favorite AMPs have maintained their rates.
[QUOTE=BeefNoodleSoup;5723109]These days many inflation is causing many things to cost up to 50% more but I'm glad many of my favorite AMPs have maintained their rates.[/QUOTE]You have to be ready to walk away if the price is out of your comfort zone. Offer lower or walk. They can make somehting or nothing -- their choice.
[QUOTE=PhillyDiscreet;5723187]You have to be ready to walk away if the price is out of your comfort zone. Offer lower or walk. They can make somehting or nothing -- their choice.[/QUOTE]This.
Their time is perishable. Once an hour ticks off the clock it's gone forever, and with it the ability to make money during that hour.
Whereas your money is durable. If you keep it in your pocket because you don't like the pricing, it'll still be in your pocket the next time you have an opportunity to monger.
There's absolutely a perishable component to your time as well, but only you can decide if you're willing to let the high-priced opportunity pass you by to hold out for a better opportunity vs. Indulging at a higher rate because you may not have another opportunity for awhile.
There's somebody named Victoria Love visiting Columbus from Philly? What's the word on her?
EPM has been my go to place in Philly. However lately, I haven't been too happy with the performance of some of the ladies I visited.
However I recently got the pleasure to meet Livia.
Her English is good so communication was key. The shower was standard, but the BBBJ was exquisite as she was locking eyes with me and moaning.
And the actual session was awesome, little dirty talk back and forth. She is a bundle of Joy and sexiness. Tight package. I will be seeing her again.
Honestly the website pictures don't do her justice.
Is the experience at d3 still worth it?
Never been there but I've been wanting to go as it seems like one of the better AMP experiences to be had. That and I'm looking for the best BBBJ around and maybe some nice rimming.
Tia.
Think her name was Luna or Yuna, couldn't make her Asian accent out. But anyway she's around 30 something, maybe 5'2" , thick tight legs. Round natural titties. Right away in shower she leaned over me and took turns with her tits in my mouth! Very hot! So in the room a little sucking and I'm ready, I prefer straight missionary style. Luna is either a good faker or likes to fuck cause she moaned loud the whole time. Pulled me deep inside her, and gyrated her hips and made me explode in the rubber! She was a good ass fuck, I tell ya! I parked at their back door on 12 street. I just call it 237 spa! On 12 street.
Can anyone tell me the updates rates now? Last damages in 2021 was 140 plus 70 house.
Has anyone tried any of the places that post BBFS on bedpage like this or others? Wonder if they're legit or ripoff or?
[URL]https://us-philadelphia.bedpage.com/femaleescorts/pensilvania/18121498.html[/URL]
[QUOTE=KSpacey;5731440]Has anyone tried any of the places that post BBFS on bedpage like this or others? Wonder if they're legit or ripoff or?
[URL]https://us-philadelphia.bedpage.com/femaleescorts/pensilvania/18121498.html[/URL][/QUOTE]Looks too good to be real.
[QUOTE=KSpacey;5731440]Has anyone tried any of the places that post BBFS on bedpage like this or others? Wonder if they're legit or ripoff or?
[URL]https://us-philadelphia.bedpage.com/femaleescorts/pensilvania/18121498.html[/URL][/QUOTE]Ah hem! I did a little DD on that link and I think your answer is in an image search. Plus $150 for 3 hours?
Also seems to be a plethora of adverts from Hispanic types these days, as discussed in the threads, mostly B&S.
[QUOTE=BlueFalcon825;5730371]Can anyone tell me the updates rates now? Last damages in 2021 was 140 plus 70 house.[/QUOTE]With damage of that value, no sense in reporting it to insurance. Most of our deductibles are 3-4 times that.
Sorry fellas, I might have held on to this one too long. Visited about 3 weeks ago and drew Kay. Long dirty blonde, natural c cups, very pretty, and nice tattoo above her ass. Only thing average about her was her ass. It's solid just not as shapely one would like. Good massage followed by all the activities one would expect at an AMP. But I would have to say the best experience I've had in years. What's set her above the rest was her incredible attitude and will to do anything I asked. Told me it was her first day and she wanted to make a good impression. Reason I said I might have held on too long is I visited her again today and she said she's leaving Thursday to go home for a bit but should be back in a few weeks. We had so much fun today Mina had to knock and end our time. I hope she comes back soon.
Anyone have any luck at the Red Rose on Haverford Ave in West Philly?
Some reviews good, some not so good. No reviewer mentions "extras."
Was interest via public comment or PM how is Tina at Sun Spa? Specifically Extras.
[QUOTE=HighPockets;5739127]Anyone have any luck at the Red Rose on Haverford Ave in West Philly?
Some reviews good, some not so good. No reviewer mentions "extras."[/QUOTE]I've never gotten FS there. I've had a few varying qualities of HJ, a few were very good. One therapist declined FS but was very enthusiastic with 69, incl. BBBJ. Her name actually may have been Rose. Super thin and very nice. Once a known provider from Gray Spa ended up being my therapist and when we got to the flip and we started to talk about what I wanted, the first thing she said was "There's no sex here".
The owners may think they're too close to the 'burbs and don't want the heat. Probably safe to say you can expect the standard R & T at the standard R & T rates, but then again I haven't been in quite some time. Not for a few years before the pandemic.
Shame, because it would be nice to have a reliable FS place close by. But each time I think things may have changed, I leave without having gotten everything I walked in for.
[QUOTE=Jayke00;5739389]I've never gotten FS there. I've had a few varying qualities of HJ, a few were very good. One therapist declined FS but was very enthusiastic with 69, incl. BBBJ. Her name actually may have been Rose. Super thin and very nice. Once a known provider from Gray Spa ended up being my therapist and when we got to the flip and we started to talk about what I wanted, the first thing she said was "There's no sex here".
The owners may think they're too close to the 'burbs and don't want the heat. Probably safe to say you can expect the standard R & T at the standard R & T rates, but then again I haven't been in quite some time. Not for a few years before the pandemic.
Shame, because it would be nice to have a reliable FS place close by. But each time I think things may have changed, I leave without having gotten everything I walked in for.[/QUOTE]Thanks Jayke. I may have to give it a try, since I'm not too far away.
Do you recall the damage when you went?
HP.
Store was busy last night but Mommy had new girl who just got there. Dirty blonde hair, decent body! NaNa wanted to talk some but I had to hurry and get home! Asked her to get naked with me in shower room! Hesitant but she did! Looked really hot naked, slightly tan. Had her stroke me on table, all soapy and shit! I'm a little pushy but she didn't object to me rubbing my cock on her tits in shower. She wanted to get to room so I followed. She stood there and I was already fully hard so let's do this. Had her get on top of me, so wet she was. Five minutes later I'm done, ha ha. Off came the rubber and she cleaned me off and I hurried home. Wife said how was work, I said same as always! 😂.
Any tips where can I find girls like this? Beautiful skinny yong
[QUOTE=Siotra;5740923]Any tips where can I find girls like this? Beautiful skinny yong[/QUOTE]EPM Exotic Philly Models. Google for contact info. There's a screening process.