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[QUOTE=DocHolliday35;5267949]Yep, while laying face down and naked. Or having sex when the door busts open by a lunatic gunman. I will have to stick to hotels as at least the door locks.[/QUOTE]Sorry Doc I don't think they are going to miss you. Stopped by Kaina mid morning after a haircut just to say hi and see how the girls were doing and all the rooms were full. A tragedy does not make the morning horny go away.
[QUOTE=AtlantaNights;5269209]I imagine it's best to leave your gun in your glovebox instead of bringing it in. Seeing a gun would likely frighten the girl and lessen the chance of getting fully serviced.[/QUOTE]That is why I placed emphasis on not letting them see it. I have also had several members of law enforcement tell me to never leave a gun in your car and especially not in the glovebox. I don't.
I'm foregoing one of my twice-monthly sessions and spreading the money ($point6, the customary "donation" for a session here in the San Gabriel Valley) around to each of the victims via the GoFundMe links below. If it weren't for these women, I would have no sexual connection with anyone at all. This is the very least I can do.
[URL]https://www.nbcnews.com/news/asian-america/efforts-support-families-atlanta-s-shooting-victims-are-ongoing-here-n1261764[/URL]
Lift Her Up.
[QUOTE=EarlSandwich;5269280]That was the prevailing narrative after the Robert Kraft story. "Every Asian massage parlor is a brothel and funded by Chinese mafia who force women into prostitution" but the fact that these women have family and loved ones stateside, leads me to think that narrative is not quite accurate.[/QUOTE]If news outlets want to truly report accurate news, they simply need to visit some parlors, get to know the girls and their expensive cars earned from jacking dicks, then report the facts.
[QUOTE=Ozymandias;5268945]This is just taking control of the narrative. It's like how gay people started calling themselves "queer", and eventually "LGBT"; once you start defining your own category (or someone else's) you gain a certain amount of power over yourself (or others, as the case may be.). There's a good essay by Thomas Szasz on this very subject (no link, but you might Google it?)
So: care work. For awhile, there have been two warring Leftist narratives about "sex work", one which calls it a legitimate kind of work deserving of protections, and the other which conflates it with human trafficking. I guess "care work" tilts the argument towards the "legitimacy" argument, which, on balance, is a good thing.
FWIW, I *have* met some pretty "caring" sex workers! (and I'd say they outnumber the handful of frightening narcissists and psychopaths I've also met in the game.).
O.[/QUOTE]I think I need to ask my next therapist if she'd "care" to give me a blowjob.
[QUOTE=GaryRidgeway;5269296]Massive difference between shots fired as in the listed example at Tokyo vs people getting killed. Shots fired in and around the blue flame seems to be extremely common, but is not deemed a big deal due to lack of a body count. There are several multiple victim shootings a week in the Atl area that barely get any press because they are in a low rent apartment complex and victim and suspects look like each other. This story grew legs because of the body count, the sexual aspect, the suspect is out of central casting, white bible thumper vs perceived poor immigrant " sex worker".[/QUOTE]Hypocrisy is certainly alive and well in the news business!
[QUOTE=GorosDawg;5269390]Sorry Doc I don't think they are going to miss you. Stopped by Kaina mid morning after a haircut just to say hi and see how the girls were doing and all the rooms were full. A tragedy does not make the morning horny go away.[/QUOTE]Seriously? Dudes pumping splooge in the midst of a crisis? My ribs hurt now. Was thinking of visiting Kaina this weekend but I don't feel like waiting in line.
Have a good time, you degenerate bastards, and keep the dream alive.
[QUOTE=GorosDawg;5269390]Sorry Doc I don't think they are going to miss you. Stopped by Kaina mid morning after a haircut just to say hi and see how the girls were doing and all the rooms were full. A tragedy does not make the morning horny go away.[/QUOTE]Oh I know they won't miss me or any of you. They only have feelings for money.
I read in the latest round of news reports that the man killed at Youngs was their "handyman". Wasn't the handyman a member on here? My heart goes out to all those affected but this tragedy.
[QUOTE=Sbaset;5271406]I read in the latest round of news reports that the man killed at Youngs was their "handyman". Wasn't the handyman a member on here? My heart goes out to all those affected but this tragedy.[/QUOTE]Paul ain't handyman, he just hang out at his favorite CAMPs (happened to be our favorites too) daily. Wrong place, wrong time.
[QUOTE=HaneDales;5267944]I highly doubt you belong to these professions so you can zip it. Only thing that resonated with me is the fact that any one us here could have been paint sprayed in those massages. Like we could have been killed very easily. I'm considering carrying a concealed permit.[/QUOTE]This guy will not get charged with a hate crime. It is just going to be murder. What he did does not fit for a hate crime. A hate crime has to show something. Remember that guy who was tied to a pickup truck and dragged by white supremacists? Or that kid who was said to be gay who was found hanging by a fence? Or the Civil Rights movement and what happened to people who were black? A guy going around and killing anybody who's in a spa even if they are owned by Asians doesn't mean it was a hate crime.
[QUOTE=Sbaset;5271406]I read in the latest round of news reports that the man killed at Youngs was their "handyman". Wasn't the handyman a member on here? My heart goes out to all those affected but this tragedy.[/QUOTE][QUOTE=SyD1971;5272197]Paul ain't handyman, he just hang out at his favorite CAMPs (happened to be our favorites too) daily. Wrong place, wrong time.[/QUOTE]You sure about that? This article says differently: [URL]https://meaww.com/who-paul-andre-michels-army-veteran-killed-young-asian-massage-spa-wife-bonnie-brother-john[/URL].
[QUOTE=Niteluvr;5272633]You sure about that? This article says differently: [URL]https://meaww.com/who-paul-andre-michels-army-veteran-killed-young-asian-massage-spa-wife-bonnie-brother-john[/URL].[/QUOTE]Ask any CAMP girls at Kaina / Adore they all know him. All the stories told by the Young's are trying to cover up their hug & tug business model, only news reporters will believe.
[QUOTE=Sbaset;5271406]I read in the latest round of news reports that the man killed at Youngs was their "handyman". Wasn't the handyman a member on here? My heart goes out to all those affected but this tragedy.[/QUOTE][QUOTE=SyD1971;5272197]Paul ain't handyman, he just hang out at his favorite CAMPs (happened to be our favorites too) daily. Wrong place, wrong time.[/QUOTE][QUOTE=SyD1971;5273806]Ask any CAMP girls at Kaina / Adore they all know him. All the stories told by the Young's are trying to cover up their hug & tug business model, only news reporters will believe.[/QUOTE][QUOTE=Niteluvr;5272633]You sure about that? This article says differently: [URL]https://meaww.com/who-paul-andre-michels-army-veteran-killed-young-asian-massage-spa-wife-bonnie-brother-john[/URL].[/QUOTE]Which member was Paul on here? Do you know?
[QUOTE=SyD1971;5273806]Ask any CAMP girls at Kaina / Adore they all know him. All the stories told by the Young's are trying to cover up their hug & tug business model, only news reporters will believe.[/QUOTE]It blows my mind that people, even news reporters, are complicit in keeping the rub and tug model all wink wink. "Happy ending" has been in the lexicon for four decades now, everyone with a brain knows what's going on.
[QUOTE=SyD1971;5273806]Ask any CAMP girls at Kaina / Adore they all know him. All the stories told by the Young's are trying to cover up their hug & tug business model, only news reporters will believe.[/QUOTE]I don't know about that. I'm sure they don't give a flying fuck right now what people think of their business. All they want to see right now is that guy get tried and fried if that was possible.
[QUOTE=SyD1971;5273806]Ask any CAMP girls at Kaina / Adore they all know him. All the stories told by the Young's are trying to cover up their hug & tug business model, only news reporters will believe.[/QUOTE]Why are you trying to invalidate what Paul did for work? Sure, he hung around the shop (s) a lot, but he also did a lot of work. Please, give it a rest.
[QUOTE=SyD1971;5273806]Ask any CAMP girls at Kaina / Adore they all know him. All the stories told by the Young's are trying to cover up their hug & tug business model, only news reporters will believe.[/QUOTE]I know that many of those girls knew him. All I was trying to say was that he worked as a handyman and installed security cameras for a living.
[QUOTE=Niteluvr;5272633]You sure about that? This article says differently: [URL]https://meaww.com/who-paul-andre-michels-army-veteran-killed-young-asian-massage-spa-wife-bonnie-brother-john[/URL].[/QUOTE]Oldti claimed to be handyman, sec camera installer.
Has anybody wondered where did the fool work? How did he have the money to frequent the spas and gold is Expensive well at least the last time I've been there but that was a few years ago. Oh has there been any interviews with his coworkers or family.
The way he looks he probably had to spend a lot. The providers that I know would never touch someone that looks like him.
Oldti claimed to be handyman, sec camera installer.
Yep that's right. A2 should retire his account.
[QUOTE=Arrowman;5274337]Has anybody wondered where did the fool work? How did he have the money to frequent the spas and gold is Expensive well at least the last time I've been there but that was a few years ago. Oh has there been any interviews with his coworkers or family.
The way he looks he probably had to spend a lot. The providers that I know would never touch someone that looks like him.[/QUOTE]I'm guessing he visited those spas over a decent time span as most young guys don't have that kind of money unless their parents are rich.
[QUOTE=SyD1971;5273806]Ask any CAMP girls at Kaina / Adore they all know him. All the stories told by the Young's are trying to cover up their hug & tug business model, only news reporters will believe.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Youngs0316;5273967]Why are you trying to invalidate what Paul did for work? Sure, he hung around the shop (s) a lot, but he also did a lot of work. Please, give it a rest.[/QUOTE]How does his statement above yours invalidate what the deceased did for a living? SyD1971 simply said the girls all knew him (Michels). His second, completely separate statement suggests that many who were interviewed about the activities at the jack shack claimed that all activities were legit. Young's, of course, was a jack shack, not a legit parlor and Emily herself waxed many a carrot.
Just do several dozen DNA tests on the floor coverings and you'll find a wide variety of jizz samples, mine included.
[QUOTE=YesTheyDo;4971452]Please don't confuse me with oldti. I know the guy. He is a handy man who does work for the stores including camera installation and other handy man stuff. He once joined me and a friend with a few nice girls after closing for drinks. We didn't invite him. He just followed us. I think all the stores were good with him hanging out and fixing things until they learned he was posting stuff true or not. So I'm sure he is looking for other user names but this ain't one of them. Don't hate the player.
Yestheydo.[/QUOTE]Oldti never claimed to be a handyman or camera guy. Others said he was after pics of mongers license plate were sent to monger. Allegedly at least. But later Oldti told me via PM he doesn't do camera work. I guess if Oldti is the deceased, he faked his struggles with english which is possible.
[QUOTE=TooHotForYou;5274345]Oldti claimed to be handyman, sec camera installer.
Yep that's right. A2 should retire his account.[/QUOTE]I don't know. Check my massage parlor post.
[QUOTE=Niteluvr;5274033]I know that many of those girls knew him. All I was trying to say was that he worked as a handyman and installed security cameras for a living.[/QUOTE]And nothing more need to be said about it, may he rest in peace.
[QUOTE=AaronHamlet;5275064]Oldti never claimed to be a handyman or camera guy. Others said he was after pics of mongers license plate were sent to monger. Allegedly at least. But later Oldti told me via PM he doesn't do camera work. I guess if Oldti is the deceased, he faked his struggles with english which is possible.[/QUOTE]I had someone sent me my license plate and sent it to my address and my family. Not sure who this oldti is, but I'm pretty sure who sent those license plate pics to me. Because I know where it was taken and I know who he always hangout with at the aamp. He was such a creepy bastard
[QUOTE=AaronHamlet;5275064]Oldti never claimed to be a handyman or camera guy. Others said he was after pics of mongers license plate were sent to monger. Allegedly at least. But later Oldti told me via PM he doesn't do camera work. I guess if Oldti is the deceased, he faked his struggles with english which is possible.[/QUOTE]Of course he never claimed what he did for a living as that would have further exposed him. Nobody does that, not even a cheap board troll.
If Youngs says Paul was a handyman and installed security cameras then take youngs word for it. End of that. If Paul was the stalker who was stalking guys who went to AMPs, and remember this is a BIG IF, then he won't be stalking anybody anymore because he is no longer with us.
[QUOTE=Niteluvr;5274750]How does his statement above yours invalidate what the deceased did for a living? SyD1971 simply said the girls all knew him (Michels). His second, completely separate statement suggests that many who were interviewed about the activities at the jack shack claimed that all activities were legit. Young's, of course, was a jack shack, not a legit parlor and Emily herself waxed many a carrot.
Just do several dozen DNA tests on the floor coverings and you'll find a wide variety of jizz samples, mine included.[/QUOTE]I'm in agreement with Youngs. The guy keeps questioning if Paul was a handyman and installed security cameras and there's no point to it. Guy needs to realize Paul may have been a handyman, installed security cameras. And may have been stalking mongers.
[QUOTE=Arrowman;5274337]Has anybody wondered where did the fool work? How did he have the money to frequent the spas and gold is Expensive well at least the last time I've been there but that was a few years ago. Oh has there been any interviews with his coworkers or family.
The way he looks he probably had to spend a lot. The providers that I know would never touch someone that looks like him.[/QUOTE]I thought that as well. The surveillance photos show him getting into an old as hell Hyundai. I wonder if Mom and Dad were giving him an allowance and that's where he was spending it at. One other thing the way he looked I just can't see him getting into very many massage parlors most girls would take a look at him and go no we busy.
[QUOTE=Niteluvr;5274750] Just do several dozen DNA tests on the floor coverings and you'll find a wide variety of jizz samples, mine included.[/QUOTE]Please don't, Emily put mine there a number of times and being retired military, I know the feds have my DNA in their database.
[QUOTE=SgtLurker;5275270]Please don't, Emily put mine there a number of times and being retired military, I know the feds have my DNA in their database.[/QUOTE]Look at the bright side. Your special DNA coating could promote a new line of stain-free carpet, much like Scotchgard. You is going to be rich someday!
[QUOTE=Youngs0316;5275109]And nothing more need to be said about it, may he rest in peace.[/QUOTE]Since your new handle and first post in the aftermath, you've come on as a hard shill for Young's. Do you have a problem with the truth? Perhaps your surname is Clark or the other schmuck who publicly proclaimed that Young's was always professional (paraphrasing)?
If you have a problem with the truth, then consider selling it elsewhere because nobody here who has ever dropped a load of man mustard at Young's at the hands of Emily or her girls is stupid enough to be drawn in by you.
The truth needs to be told and your futile attempts to suppress such truths need to take a fuckin' rest.
[QUOTE=TooHotForYou;5275206]I'm in agreement with Youngs. The guy keeps questioning if Paul was a handyman and installed security cameras and there's no point to it. Guy needs to realize Paul may have been a handyman, installed security cameras. And may have been stalking mongers.[/QUOTE]The dude in question had serious issues, he chose to vent his personality here and, in doing so, rattled a lot of cages. I am assuming you know of his many handles and posts. True, his profession has nothing to do with his weird personality and nobody gives a shit about it, but you also noted that he was not exactly a respected guy by stating, 'And he may have been stalking mongers. ' Duh!
I think you've already answered your own concerns and the concerns of many. I personally will not contribute anything to his GoFundMe page (max has already been exceeded), but I won't waste my valuable time to shit on his grave either. YMMV.
[QUOTE=Niteluvr;5275378]The dude in question had serious issues, he chose to vent his personality here and, in doing so, rattled a lot of cages. I am assuming you know of his many handles and posts. True, his profession has nothing to do with his weird personality and nobody gives a shit about it, but you also noted that he was not exactly a respected guy by stating, 'And he may have been stalking mongers. ' Duh!
I think you've already answered your own concerns and the concerns of many. I personally will not contribute anything to his GoFundMe page (max has already been exceeded), but I won't waste my valuable time to shit on his grave either. YMMV.[/QUOTE]Like I said, in agreement with youngs about what paul did for work. Who knows if Paul is the stalker though. R. I. P. To a fellow monger but his stalking days are over if it was him.
[QUOTE=TooHotForYou;5275431]Like I said, in agreement with youngs about what paul did for work. Who knows if Paul is the stalker though. R. I. P. To a fellow monger but his stalking days are over if it was him.[/QUOTE]Don't think I've ever heard about a stalker at Young's. All parlors have to deal with an occasional weirdo, but never heard of anything serious happening at Young's in particular.
Do you mean the Emily that was one that was one of the victims?
[QUOTE=SgtLurker;5275270]Please don't, Emily put mine there a number of times and being retired military, I know the feds have my DNA in their database.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=HaneDales;5276305]Do you mean the Emily that was one that was one of the victims?[/QUOTE]Emily was the owner and one of the victims.
[QUOTE=Niteluvr;5275926]Don't think I've ever heard about a stalker at Young's. All parlors have to deal with an occasional weirdo, but never heard of anything serious happening at Young's in particular.[/QUOTE]Who knows if there has ever been a stalker at Youngs where Paul was killed. Who knows if Paul was Oldti. Who knows if Paul was stalking guys taking pictures of their license plates.
I'll start a new rant right now since we're on this. Who on here has been stalked after going to an AMP? I'll start with me. I was stalked a few years ago when I went to Massage Pro before they turned legit.