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Chance formally of ATFclub
Long time lurker / member here.
Figured this might be a shot in the dark, but what the heck.
Anyone fellow gentlemen have the pleasure of seeing Chance at ATF before she left in 2010? She has would I would consider one of the best asses I've experienced in the hobby. She used to strip at a cpl clubs in Decatur Pinups, Follies. I'm semi retired, but would come out of retirement to see her again. If anyone has a clue or tip, pm me or reply to the post.
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Here is a link to a you tube video of her that atf made of her.
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Elizabeth@JFL (Same Girl as Corey@ATFClub)
Saw Elizabeth@JFL the other day.
Looks: 7.
Performance: 6.
Attitude: 8.
Thought she was alright, but in my opinion, not worth the $275 (let alone $250@ATF) that JFL offers. Her attitude is great. She and I got along awesome. In fact, she stayed longer than her allotted time. However, performance wise? Pretty average. BBBJ was average. At best. Honestly, I've received better from my high school days. Lots of head bobbing, but she has no skills down there. Her pussy? Ok, but she clearly has no idea how to "work it."
All in all, just an "ehhhh" time. She has a great attitude. Mainly business-like, but very straight up (we definitely got along). But sexually speaking, she has no skills. Well, she knows how to pump babies out. She told me straight up that she's had 3 kids. Time to find someone better.
The Proverbial Double-edged sword.
The economy has done several things: With both women and men out of work or under employed or only able to find part time employment, we end up with MORE providers as the ladies need to do something to feed their brood, get their nails done and pay the rent. The now-unemployed / under-employed men have no play funds, so their "game" is looking for it for free, or trying the $20-$40 on BP. Add to that the fact that ladies a few years back kept raising their rates as they were young and hot and had their game (I call this GPS for Golden Pussy Syndrome) , and dudes had the cash to pay for that kind of stuff, and they did. Now, the economy is in the shitter, many of the "players" of 5 years ago are making fewer bucks, combined with getting older and therefore often less horny, taking up new hobbies like golf. So they don't need it as much, nor can they afford it. Layer on all the recent college grad girls that can't even get a job a Macy's or Mickey D's, and they turn to BP for some scratch.
Classic Free Market scenario at play here. Supply is up and demand is down, so which way do prices go? Look at the auto manufacturers for a clue. You see trucks ads on TV with $10, 000 discounts on $35-40K trucks; that's a 25%+ discount off MSRP. That's the economy we are in right now. The ladies have this stubborn IDEA that they are "WORTH" $250. $500 for an hour of play. Wrong. They are worth EXACTLY what someone is willing to pay them for the pleasures they provide. Nothing more, nothing less. This will also be impacted by location to some extent (e. G. NYC should be more expensive than, say, Nashville, as incomes are skewed based on geo / demographics for each area). Some of these girls may be worth a higher fee for a time (new porn stars and hot young model-types, for instance) , but even they eventually drop in price as they become a more common or 'average" commodity.
Keeping to the automotive theme, I might equate this to the new Camaro; when it first came on the scene, it commanded a "premium" price. But there are only so many folks willing to jump on that bandwagon to be "the first on their block" to own one. Now you can buy one for under invoice. Same with girls. A young hottie comes along and prices her wares at $400 / hr. There may be 100 guys in the ATL willing / able to pay that because she's new and hot and reviews are good. After the 100th guy comes (cums?) and goes, now what? The phone ain't ringing. OK, she offers a "limited time" discount of $50 or $100, and she sees maybe 100 more guys. Now what? Phone ain't ringing. And so it goes. Keep in mind that most of us are in this hobby for variety and that ADDS to the $400 / hr ladies problems. Because of the 100 guys willing to pay her $400 rate, maybe 10 will return for more than 1 or 2 sessions, and then it's on the the next new "flavor of the month".
How do you keep these guys around? Maybe offer them a "repeat rate". But how low do you go to keep them around? Often times its not just about the money to the guys; I go back to the variety aspect of this hobby. And so it goes. I don't have all the answers (but I do have some if the ladies want to call.) but this is my two centavos on the subject.
[QUOTE=Wazoo;1251002]Yeah, there has been a general decline in all sectors of the hobby: AMPs, body to body massage, escorts, etc. I think the general trend has been downwards for a decade. I'm wondering if it's the "Walmart effect." Everybody starts buying shoddy merchandise at bargain basement prices and it drives the upscale department stores out of business. Nobody even remembers what it was like to shop in a clean store, find well made products, or be helped by a knowledgeable store clerk. We are left with crappy merchandise at cut-rate prices. There's a lot more stuff available to buy but nothing you'd really want to have. With the explosion of sites like BP and CL, the market is swamped at the bottom end. This drains off money in the supply chain that used to go to upscale providers. They can't make a living and quit. Expectations drop. Just a theory.[/QUOTE]
