The Prickyard

[QUOTE=EarlyCuyler;3385782]While there are indeed the mongrels and ladies of the night that you mentioned, guilt by association might ruin your otherwise stellar reputation.

I do know this. I was the only unmarried, unencumbered one of the 8, so while some dealt with the wrath of Khan when they got home (and maybe still are to this day), I was met in said parking lot by a legend of the escort scene in Indianapolis with a lit cigarette and ice cold bottle of water. I've had worse days. I heard lots of good gang stories and was offered very cheap pugsy by the fine gentleman of the various street gangs in Indy that I shared that day with.

One final thought. How can one be charged with patronizing a prostitute, when there is no prostitute in the room, only Aunt LEO?[/QUOTE]Your fun was to come later with the wrath of the COTU (**** of the universe). Maybe it is really Conspiracy to Commit Patronization of a Potential Prostitute that was the official charge.
PS. I can't believe I can't use the word C.U,N-T here

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Not hobby related but still have to share.

[QUOTE=Ilapp;3386722]Your fun was to come later with the wrath of the COTU (**** of the universe). Maybe it is really Conspiracy to Commit Patronization of a Potential Prostitute that was the official charge.
PS. I can't believe I can't use the word C.U,N-T here[/QUOTE]Things I learned from being arrested (some I already knew but let my giard down).

If she keeps texting asking what you want, she might be a cop.

If the front desk staff looks down in unison when you walk past them, they might know there's a sting going on, give them a cheery "hello" to see how they react.

If you have requested stockings, and she's dressed very non provocatively, long gym shorts and loose t shirt, she might be a cop.

If she holds up a condom and say, "I only have one", don't respond with a cheery "I only need one!" That's accepting a sex act for money.

If the parking lot is empty, but there are a lot of vehicles at one end of the building, it might be a sting.

If you sit next to her, place your hand on her knee and she moves away, she either doesn't like you, or she might be a cop.

Always always always, limit your requests to a rubdown. The decoy HATES hobbyists and blames them for everything bad in society, I promise you she won't rub your back, even for a second. If she does, she ain't leo. If every hobbyist took this tactic, decoys would all ask for transfers out of Vice. They would rather blow an ISIS member (and a donkey) than have any sort of physical contact with you.

Memorize someone's number that can bail you out. Too many people only know their home phone number or that of their significant other. (I highly recommend Freckle Freak. He's almost judgment free).

If you never discuss money in exchange for a sexual act, you will never go to jail. Period. The decoy worked and worked and worked on one guy until he finally sorta, a little, maybe relented.

You will only get a misdemeanor, which will leave your record after two years. The punishment isn't bad at all. Unless you have priors or you decide to out the whole operation within minutes after bonding out.

If you can't be safe, be smart.

[QUOTE=EarlyCuyler;3389731]Things I learned from being arrested (some I already knew but let my guard down).

If you can't be safe, be smart.[/QUOTE]I wanted to ask you what you learned, but thought it wouldn't be polite.

[QUOTE=PrinceNumenor;3386436]Yep I think that is probably the best argument for the codes. I actually even with the codes think that happens. What's the answer? Not post on here at all? Just go through pm's? USAsexguide is designed to give out useful info on the hobby.[/QUOTE]So, I have always struggled with the codes and understand the arguments for their existence. But since this is a forum for mongers to inform mongers and the codes seem only to confound the mongers then what purpose do they serve? IMHO, if a monger can figure it out then LEO can also. If it is to keep the neophytes at bay then why are we here at all? If you have an ATF that you want to keep to yourself then. Do so. Otherwise, lets be real and give information to the folks who come here for the same reasons the seniors do. BTW, I never did figure out what the muffler shop was or is.

A2, apologies, if you deem this as argumentative then I will post it up into the pound and let the fur fly!

[QUOTE=GeezerGlide;3390316]So, I have always struggled with the codes and understand the arguments for their existence. But since this is a forum for mongers to inform mongers and the codes seem only to confound the mongers then what purpose do they serve? IMHO, if a monger can figure it out then LEO can also. If it is to keep the neophytes at bay then why are we here at all? If you have an ATF that you want to keep to yourself then. Do so. Otherwise, lets be real and give information to the folks who come here for the same reasons the seniors do. BTW, I never did figure out what the muffler shop was or is.

A2, apologies, if you deem this as argumentative then I will post it up into the pound and let the fur fly![/QUOTE]Why do we have driver education classes? Why not, just hand someone the keys and let them drive?

Because driving a car takes skills which need to be developed.

Why do you think new people are frequently told, "RTFF and go TOFTT?" Because they need to learn the skills. They also need to establish some credibility. This is for everyone's benefit.

Most people, first time at an AMP, or with a provider, are nervous. It's natural, they've entered unknown territory. If JohnnyWantToTryAMP comes along and gets directed to an AMP where everyone leaves happy, he probably won't have the same experience. He's too green, too nervous, he doesn't know the process. The masseuse who has already gone through half a roll of saran wrap makes him self service, because she knows he doesn't belong. If he doesn't self service, the AMP assumes LEO is trying for a bust and menus get restricted.

You want to find the Muffler shop? Look at the BP and CL ads. Pick an AMP you haven't been to before. Go there. If you are paying attention you will notice whether or not there is a muffler shop next door. If there isn't, get a massage anyway and write a review. After you've done this a few times, you'll find the muffler shop. In the process you might find some place better. At the very least you'll get comfortable with the AMP routine and establish some credibility. Then when you PM someone and ask for directions, you'll probably get them.

Along the way you'll get something you'll never get if someone leads you by the hand every step of the way, a feeling of accomplishment.

When I first came here, looking for guidance I had the same issues. To make it worse, back then there were 2 places called "H", or "suite H. " So I read the forum, going back 2 years. I put together the pieces and figured out where each place was. I read the ads and if I was close to an advertised AMP, I did a drive by.

Then I started going to AMPs. I made some mistakes and had some bad experiences, but I learned. I learned how to read an ad and decide which places were going to offer extras, and which places offered nothing. I learned how to lead the masseuse, so that things went the way I wanted.

Most people don't want to put in the effort. They want point and click, but they don't want to pay for a subscription to rubmaps. They come here and their 5 posts all begin with "Can someone tell me. ".

They're never going to post a review. If they do, it will be something they copied from Penthouse Forum. Why should any of us risk our favorite AMP for someone who will never give back to the forum?

[QUOTE=Jjbee62;3390404]Why do we have driver education classes? Why not, just hand someone the keys and let them drive?

Because driving a car takes skills which need to be developed.

Why do you think new people are frequently told, "RTFF and go TOFTT?" Because they need to learn the skills. They also need to establish some credibility. This is for everyone's benefit.

Most people, first time at an AMP, or with a provider, are nervous. It's natural, they've entered unknown territory. If JohnnyWantToTryAMP comes along and gets directed to an AMP where everyone leaves happy, he probably won't have the same experience. He's too green, too nervous, he doesn't know the process. The masseuse who has already gone through half a roll of saran wrap makes him self service, because she knows he doesn't belong. If he doesn't self service, the AMP assumes LEO is trying for a bust and menus get restricted.

You want to find the Muffler shop? Look at the BP and CL ads. Pick an AMP you haven't been to before. Go there. If you are paying attention you will notice whether or not there is a muffler shop next door. If there isn't, get a massage anyway and write a review. After you've done this a few times, you'll find the muffler shop. In the process you might find some place better. At the very least you'll get comfortable with the AMP routine and establish some credibility. Then when you PM someone and ask for directions, you'll probably get them.

Along the way you'll get something you'll never get if someone leads you by the hand every step of the way, a feeling of accomplishment.

When I first came here, looking for guidance I had the same issues. To make it worse, back then there were 2 places called "H", or "suite H. " So I read the forum, going back 2 years. I put together the pieces and figured out where each place was. I read the ads and if I was close to an advertised AMP, I did a drive by.

Then I started going to AMPs. I made some mistakes and had some bad experiences, but I learned. I learned how to read an ad and decide which places were going to offer extras, and which places offered nothing. I learned how to lead the masseuse, so that things went the way I wanted.

Most people don't want to put in the effort. They want point and click, but they don't want to pay for a subscription to rubmaps. They come here and their 5 posts all begin with "Can someone tell me. ".

They're never going to post a review. If they do, it will be something they copied from Penthouse Forum. Why should any of us risk our favorite AMP for someone who will never give back to the forum?[/QUOTE]I love the Thrill of checking out a new AMP to me and see where it goes.

[QUOTE=Jjbee62;3390404]Why do we have driver education classes? Why not, just hand someone the keys and let them drive?

Because driving a car takes skills which need to be developed.

Why do you think new people are frequently told, "RTFF and go TOFTT?" Because they need to learn the skills. They also need to establish some credibility. This is for everyone's benefit.

Most people, first time at an AMP, or with a provider, are nervous. It's natural, they've entered unknown territory. If JohnnyWantToTryAMP comes along and gets directed to an AMP where everyone leaves happy, he probably won't have the same experience. He's too green, too nervous, he doesn't know the process. The masseuse who has already gone through half a roll of saran wrap makes him self service, because she knows he doesn't belong. If he doesn't self service, the AMP assumes LEO is trying for a bust and menus get restricted.

You want to find the Muffler shop? Look at the BP and CL ads. Pick an AMP you haven't been to before. Go there. If you are paying attention you will notice whether or not there is a muffler shop next door. If there isn't, get a massage anyway and write a review. After you've done this a few times, you'll find the muffler shop. In the process you might find some place better. At the very least you'll get comfortable with the AMP routine and establish some credibility. Then when you PM someone and ask for directions, you'll probably get them.

Along the way you'll get something you'll never get if someone leads you by the hand every step of the way, a feeling of accomplishment.

When I first came here, looking for guidance I had the same issues. To make it worse, back then there were 2 places called "H", or "suite H. " So I read the forum, going back 2 years. I put together the pieces and figured out where each place was. I read the ads and if I was close to an advertised AMP, I did a drive by.

Then I started going to AMPs. I made some mistakes and had some bad experiences, but I learned. I learned how to read an ad and decide which places were going to offer extras, and which places offered nothing. I learned how to lead the masseuse, so that things went the way I wanted.

Most people don't want to put in the effort. They want point and click, but they don't want to pay for a subscription to rubmaps. They come here and their 5 posts all begin with "Can someone tell me. ".

They're never going to post a review. If they do, it will be something they copied from Penthouse Forum. Why should any of us risk our favorite AMP for someone who will never give back to the forum?[/QUOTE]Well said JJ.

I'll give a RELATIVE newbie some guidance in a PM, IF I think they've earned it, and I'll give details to a senior. Hell, I'll occasionally brag In the open, if I'm in particularly generous mood. But I've been a monger for 15 years, so I've spent lots of time and money gathering G2. I don't think it's too much to ask people gather a little bit of their own intel and spend a little of their own money. It's really not that difficult.

And I don't give a rats ass whether LE reads or doesn't read what is written here. I'm sure they already know everything that I do.

[QUOTE=Jjbee62;3390404]Why do we have driver education classes? Why not, just hand someone the keys and let them drive?

Because driving a car takes skills which need to be developed.

Why do you think new people are frequently told, "RTFF and go TOFTT?" Because they need to learn the skills. They also need to establish some credibility. This is for everyone's benefit.

Most people, first time at an AMP, or with a provider, are nervous. It's natural, they've entered unknown territory. If JohnnyWantToTryAMP comes along and gets directed to an AMP where everyone leaves happy, he probably won't have the same experience. He's too green, too nervous, he doesn't know the process. The masseuse who has already gone through half a roll of saran wrap makes him self service, because she knows he doesn't belong. If he doesn't self service, the AMP assumes LEO is trying for a bust and menus get restricted.

You want to find the Muffler shop? Look at the BP and CL ads. Pick an AMP you haven't been to before. Go there. If you are paying attention you will notice whether or not there is a muffler shop next door. If there isn't, get a massage anyway and write a review. After you've done this a few times, you'll find the muffler shop. In the process you might find some place better. At the very least you'll get comfortable with the AMP routine and establish some credibility. Then when you PM someone and ask for directions, you'll probably get them.

Along the way you'll get something you'll never get if someone leads you by the hand every step of the way, a feeling of accomplishment.

When I first came here, looking for guidance I had the same issues. To make it worse, back then there were 2 places called "H", or "suite H. " So I read the forum, going back 2 years. I put together the pieces and figured out where each place was. I read the ads and if I was close to an advertised AMP, I did a drive by.

Then I started going to AMPs. I made some mistakes and had some bad experiences, but I learned. I learned how to read an ad and decide which places were going to offer extras, and which places offered nothing. I learned how to lead the masseuse, so that things went the way I wanted.

Most people don't want to put in the effort. They want point and click, but they don't want to pay for a subscription to rubmaps. They come here and their 5 posts all begin with "Can someone tell me. ".

They're never going to post a review. If they do, it will be something they copied from Penthouse Forum. Why should any of us risk our favorite AMP for someone who will never give back to the forum?[/QUOTE]I guess I should just go back to my corner, wait 60 seconds for each search so I can RTFF and watch the experts enjoy the hobby. Thanks for the expert advice. Google Hubris. I think you will understand that code!

Geezer.

[QUOTE=GeezerGlide;3390558]I guess I should just go back to my corner, wait 60 seconds for each search so I can RTFF and watch the experts enjoy the hobby. Thanks for the expert advice. Google Hubris. I think you will understand that code!

Geezer.[/QUOTE]I guess the Prickyard needs some business.

[QUOTE=GeezerGlide;3390558]I guess I should just go back to my corner, wait 60 seconds for each search so I can RTFF and watch the experts enjoy the hobby. Thanks for the expert advice. Google Hubris. I think you will understand that code!

Geezer.[/QUOTE]Some people are too fucking lazy. They want everyone to fetch and carry for them instead of getting off their dead ass and doing a little bit of work.

There are over 9,000 posts in the AMP thread. Half of your contributions are complaints about how hard it is to figure out where to go. Toss in a few "please lead me" posts and there really isn't much left.

I've given directions to dozens of local and visiting mongers, offered suggestions and written several posts explaining how to find every cryptic AMP and how to improve your odds. All I've asked is that people give something back to the thread, or if they're from elsewhere that they contribute to their local board. I've even written a few reviews and I've TOFTT on more than one occasion.

Do you know why? Do you have any clue whatsoever? It's so people don't have to hit 6 no extra AMPs, before they finally get a HE.

If the various codes are too hard for you to figure out then they are working, because the purpose is to keep the lazy and the clueless away.

[QUOTE=GeezerGlide;3390558]I guess I should just go back to my corner, wait 60 seconds for each search so I can RTFF and watch the experts enjoy the hobby. Thanks for the expert advice. Google Hubris. I think you will understand that code!

Geezer.[/QUOTE]I looked up Hubris and it has a picture of me with the definition! Oh wait, sorry that's not me, it's a picture of T-Birdy.

[QUOTE=Jjbee62;3390684]Some people are too fucking lazy. They want everyone to fetch and carry for them instead of getting off their dead ass and doing a little bit of work.

There are over 9,000 posts in the AMP thread. Half of your contributions are complaints about how hard it is to figure out where to go. Toss in a few "please lead me" posts and there really isn't much left.

I've given directions to dozens of local and visiting mongers, offered suggestions and written several posts explaining how to find every cryptic AMP and how to improve your odds. All I've asked is that people give something back to the thread, or if they're from elsewhere that they contribute to their local board. I've even written a few reviews and I've TOFTT on more than one occasion.

Do you know why? Do you have any clue whatsoever? It's so people don't have to hit 6 no extra AMPs, before they finally get a HE.

If the various codes are too hard for you to figure out then they are working, because the purpose is to keep the lazy and the clueless away.[/QUOTE]I thought I hired you to be the editor of my posts and keep me sane on the board. If you keep this up I will have to fire you!

Is a staple of this forum. Like it or not, it's not going away. If you don't like puzzles, riddles or name games then you're not going to enjoy yourselves at all. Expressing your discontent is just adding fuel to the fire guys.

Anything worth having Is worth working for. I've learned alot by just reading other Seniors posts on here. It's ultimately 50/50 that an AMP is going to offer a happy day if you've developed your craft well. If your skill set is lacking there's always the BP thread to get you by. Sure things are not what this forum is about though.

If you don't get what I'm saying, just wait until you post your first awesome review. You'll see your inbox get flooded with new members requesting all the keys to the kingdom.

No, the Code is best even if it makes my head hurt at times.

Just for shit's and giggles I looked at two other review pages, 1st one was Champagne IL, 2nd was Macon Ga. It was totally random that I selected both pages. Read the first dozen posts and only saw actual names of AMP providers, NO flipping codes to be found! Is this a Indy thing?

Report on Luna Foot Spa, my back still hurts from the gorilla hands massage and my balls are blue! .6 for the hour and .2 on the tip. Will not be going back!