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Aka "Gramps".[/QUOTE]Mozilla gives the same Bad Site Warning...just wanted to let you know.
Tall one changed her mind on me about 30 minutes before we met. Gave an excuse of not being OK with me being married and being annoyed at the potential of me being clingy. Then she blocked me on the site, all within 5 mins, LOL. I found that funny, because I may pursue, but I don't chase or stalk. Either way, she was very new and it is possible she got a better deal, LOL.
Date with MsCoolSlim was good, but not great. She is not a SB, very unsure of what she wants. Primarily she wants something that happens and is not too planned out. After this second date, she has a 10 face, 9 body and 7 personality. I will keep moving at her pace.
Met the other spinner and hung out in the car. Picked up some carry out, talked and flirted for about 2 hours. I was right, she does not weigh 100 lbs. She is cute and is ready for the Tiggabounce. I am not convinced she will be good in bed, but we will see.
I will be finalizing my Tiggapad on Thursday. I drove by the area yesterday to check out the surrounding. It is very nice, lots of stores, restaurants, etc. It is a high-rise and parking is easy.
BT.
[QUOTE=BigTigger;1907581]Tall one changed her mind on me about 30 minutes before we met. Gave an excuse of not being OK with me being married and being annoyed at the potential of me being clingy. Then she blocked me on the site, all within 5 mins, LOL. I found that funny, because I may pursue, but I don't chase or stalk. Either way, she was very new and it is possible she got a better deal, LOL.
Date with MsCoolSlim was good, but not great. She is not a SB, very unsure of what she wants. Primarily she wants something that happens and is not too planned out. After this second date, she has a 10 face, 9 body and 7 personality. I will keep moving at her pace.
Met the other spinner and hung out in the car. Picked up some carry out, talked and flirted for about 2 hours. I was right, she does not weigh 100 lbs. She is cute and is ready for the Tiggabounce. I am not convinced she will be good in bed, but we will see.
I will be finalizing my Tiggapad on Thursday. I drove by the area yesterday to check out the surrounding. It is very nice, lots of stores, restaurants, etc. It is a high-rise and parking is easy.
BT.[/QUOTE]Well I am not surprised brother. So many are flakes. I think it is the nature of women in general and POTs even more. She was probably working several POTs herself waiting for the perfect SD. Hell we do it all the time.
Love the idea of the Tiggapad. Man that is genius. If I had babies that did not have their own places I would do that. How much is it costing? And is there any kind of lease or all cash? And do you have any restrictions. Like you have to let the tenant / landlord know when you are coming over, or clear out when she comes home, etc.
Also and I am just spit-balling here: What happens when you bring a fine looking hot little Tiggababy home and you two just cant control yourself and you are pounding that pussy like it is the last piece of ass on earth...there is yelling, there is bed squeaking, there is thumping. Is your landlord cool with that, or is she going to throw you out on your ear? Lots to consider. And believe me I am considering this seriously. That is why I am asking. Also dont want a brother to get into something troublesome.
I might have to try that here if the need arises.
Revvo.
[QUOTE=Dsprdo;1905909]I think this is an important question. When a girl asks this, I think it is a sign of a new SB. Girls who have been around the track a few times don't care. New SB's want to know if you are a player, how you've treated any past SB's, and what to expect from you. The follow on question to "yes, I have" is "what happened to her?" I would welcome insight as to how some of you approach this topic.[/QUOTE]I usually ask them first if they ever had an SD before. And they will then ask me if I have had an SB. Couple of things on this.
I tell them I have. And I tell them the truth. There is not a lot to hide really. Mine have been long term and really good experiences. I even tell them about the one that left me, and how she bolted from me right after I started her allowance. They are shocked someone would do that. Especially someone that I am in an intimate relationship with. Then I talk about trust. That right there puts any talk of an immediate allowance to bed.
Worked pretty well for me so far.
Revvo.
[QUOTE=Revvo;1907640]Well I am not surprised brother. So many are flakes. I think it is the nature of women in general and POTs even more. She was probably working several POTs herself waiting for the perfect SD. Hell we do it all the time.
Love the idea of the Tiggapad. Man that is genius. If I had babies that did not have their own places I would do that. How much is it costing? And is there any kind of lease or all cash? And do you have any restrictions. Like you have to let the tenant / landlord know when you are coming over, or clear out when she comes home, etc.
Also and I am just spit-balling here: What happens when you bring a fine looking hot little Tiggababy home and you two just cant control yourself and you are pounding that pussy like it is the last piece of ass on earth...there is yelling, there is bed squeaking, there is thumping. Is your landlord cool with that, or is she going to throw you out on your ear? Lots to consider. And believe me I am considering this seriously. That is why I am asking. Also dont want a brother to get into something troublesome.
I might have to try that here if the need arises.
Revvo.[/QUOTE]Actually I placed the ad on CL and with what I was looking for in a roommate situation. Then let people just replied to my ad most of them did not care what I did in the room. I was even clear I would only be there 2 to 3 times a week. The one that I'm expecting to get is in a controlled high rise apartment with security and parking garage. And the owner live there but is rarely home. She was very clear she does not care what I do in my room. And of course I can use the kitchen and all of that stuff. So it sounds like a really good deal is cost me 600 per month. I average between 600 and 800 per month in hotels.
[QUOTE=BigTigger;1907665]Actually I placed the ad on CL and with what I was looking for in a roommate situation. Then let people just replied to my ad most of them did not care what I did in the room. I was even clear I would only be there 2 to 3 times a week. The one that I'm expecting to get is in a controlled high rise apartment with security and parking garage. And the owner live there but is rarely home. She was very clear she does not care what I do in my room. And of course I can use the kitchen and all of that stuff. So it sounds like a really good deal is cost me 600 per month. I average between 600 and 800 per month in hotels.[/QUOTE]How much does she want to charge you? Also is the room furnished? Dude you are paying a lot for hotels. I am lucky at the moment. All three of my regular SB's host. So I only paid for two hotel rooms last month. Totally $132 and that was for a 4 star resort hotel. But I live in probably the highest per capital hotel rooms in the US other than Las Vegas.
But I am always looking for new and better ideas since my current situation may not last.
Also how did you get her to say she does not care what you do? Does she know you are going to be using it for a Tiggapad? LOL.
Revvo.
So a couple of days ago I get contacted by a very hot looking Russian POT. She says she is educated, speaks four languages and is wonderful. She said she had a SD when she lived in Russia. We started chatting and then she disappeared. Next day she texted me again and started chatting again. She seemed a little rushed and frantic. But well spoken freindly and easily a 9/9/ She almost immediately asked for a time to meet and asked me if 500 a week would be good with me. I did not answer just kept engaging her in conversation.
But she wanted to talk business. Then she asked me if 2000 per month is a good amount. At this time I really was not so sure in meeting with her. But what the hell. So I told her I could not do that amount but we could talk allowance after we know each other a while. Then I said we could do 150 per visit for now.
She said that was too low and don't be cheap Revvo. Not nasty just like she was trying to move me forward. So I then told her that the amount was too much but thanks and I wished her luck and I hope she gets what she wants.
A little while later she texts me 300 and then asks for a meeting that night. I tell her no thanks 150 and I do not negotiate and that I do not want this to be a negotiation. Because she will not be happy after it is over. And that does not lead to a good encounter. She then tells me how smart and sexy and wonderful she is and that the girls I am meeting are ugly. I say all I have been with are beautiful and educated and sexy and fun. I said that she is great. You should get what you want. Just not from me.
She then went to 250 then to 200. This was over couple hours. I told her that while we were chatting 50 more girls have signed up for that site.
Finally I agreed to 200 and am scheduled to meet on Friday. Not sure if I want to go. What do you think? Do you think this will be an quality engagement? Or do you think she is a UTR or pro? Tineye showed her picture on one of those Russian mail order bride sites. No where else.
I am a little leery. What are your thoughts?
Revvo.
[QUOTE=Revvo;1907874]
Finally I agreed to 200 and am scheduled to meet on Friday. Not sure if I want to go. What do you think? Do you think this will be an quality engagement? Or do you think she is a UTR or pro? Tineye showed her picture on one of those Russian mail order bride sites. No where else.[/QUOTE]It sounds like she's UTR at least-not that you can't have fun with an UTR girl! I would be surprised if she turns into a quality long term baby but it might be worth a couple of rounds. I would be curious to learn if the pics she sent you are real. Are the mail order bride pics the exact same ones she has up here? I think it is really hard for an eastern European girl to get a visa to move here, so I'm curious how she got here. I would probably go to the M&G and be ready to either walk away or, if it turns out she is as hot as you think, ready to live with it if the experience isn't top notch.
[QUOTE=Revvo;1907791]How much does she want to charge you? Also is the room furnished? Dude you are paying a lot for hotels. I am lucky at the moment. All three of my regular SB's host. So I only paid for two hotel rooms last month. Totally $132 and that was for a 4 star resort hotel. But I live in probably the highest per capital hotel rooms in the US other than Las Vegas.
But I am always looking for new and better ideas since my current situation may not last.
Also how did you get her to say she does not care what you do? Does she know you are going to be using it for a Tiggapad? LOL.
Revvo.[/QUOTE]$600.
Furnished, but I will buy a bigger bed.
She based her comments on the ad I placed. I was clear in my ad that I would always have a guest.
She knows, but does not care. Just wants the money.
BT.
My Brothers, Tonight I had my first meet and greet with a potential SB. I found her on Craigslist and wasn't expecting much. We conversed for a while via email. And when I asked for picture she said your crazy! Not right off the bat! So ok, we communicated for a while over the next week. I told her I could not host, she also said she could not as roomates were involved. Ok, hotel it is. Well we decided to meet at a local chain restaurant on the other side of town from me. I was excited and nervous the whole time. She has a email that suggests dissonance reduction, during the entire exchange I'm trying to find info about her. I am obviously using a junk email. So anyway to the meeting day today, we agree on the time and place and I am nervous. We email right up to the meeting and meet outside, then go into the restaurant. Now I have told her I'm married and need discretion. She's fine with that. I ask if she would like a table or sit at the bar, she picks a half table right at the entrance. I'm thinking WTF? Sitting duck. Any way we sit and she goes to the restroom and comes back and we order drinks, By the way she has long red hair and is hot, I'm thinking this I'd too good to be true. No boobs but that's ok, her body is hot. I'll call her red for the red hair. We make conversation and it's ok, but I'm still nervous. She seems nonchalant and detached. I told her I was nervous and she said she wasn't due to her job as a social worker and she deals with difficult situations all the time. I was good but maybe a little too curious as to why she picked me out of the hundreds of emails she got, and wasn't she concerned at all for her safety. I'm a softy like that. I inquired as to why she was interested in doing this and she said I'm young and still hot so why not! (she's 25). She then opened a little and said her parents are dirt poor, and they exhausted their savings to send a brother to dive school. IThere was never any mention of $ and I asked what she thought of what she wanted as an arrangement, she indicated she would prefer to discuss that via email later. I was fine with that. Waiter asked if we wanted to order she said no here for a drink only. We finished drinks and I told her I would lokk forward to hearing from her. I offered to walk her to her car, but said no I'll walk myself I have a knife and mace. So we left together and went our separate ways. Funny thing, I saw an unmarked cop car turn it's lights on and leave a parking space 5-6 down from me when I was walking towards my vehicle. Question Am I paranoid? There has never been a discussion on $ and I know I'm clean right now, and wouldn't she try to entrap me? Other question If that's nothing it seems she is just not interested? If that's the case I'll move on, no worries, but she was hot, well kept and very smart. Suggestions, comments, observations welcome!
[QUOTE=Revvo;1907874]...Finally I agreed to 200 and am scheduled to meet on Friday. Not sure if I want to go. What do you think? Do you think this will be an quality engagement? Or do you think she is a UTR or pro? Tineye showed her picture on one of those Russian mail order bride sites. No where else.
I am a little leery. What are your thoughts?
Revvo.[/QUOTE]I can't find the prior post (s) to reference, the posts about too much talk of money, long negotiations, expectations, etc, the ones from the board experts (I consider you one), but this is unlikely to turn out bad. I feel you already know this and just looking for confirmation. I would m&g, but make an excuse to bail unless she way way hot.
[QUOTE=BuckDancer;1908071]...Question Am I paranoid?...[/QUOTE]Maybe, but I'ld be too. One one hand it sounds like she's interested, on the other hand walking to car with 'mace and a knife', she sounds very suspicious. Likely, she's had bad experiences in the past and being extra careful. But you need to be the same. I would suggest another m&g. Get a little intimate in the car & talk about what'll happen at the fc later before committing to any $ amount.
[QUOTE=JMartinez;1908164]Maybe, but I'ld be too. One one hand it sounds like she's interested, on the other hand walking to car with 'mace and a knife', she sounds very suspicious. Likely, she's had bad experiences in the past and being extra careful. But you need to be the same. I would suggest another m&g. Get a little intimate in the car & talk about what'll happen at the fc later before committing to any $ amount.[/QUOTE]Knife and Mace, squirrely emails and conversation. This just sounds like trouble. Might work out fine, at first, but some how some where you have Michael Douglas and Glenn Close doing a Fatal Attraction scene playing in the back of your head. Some pussy is better off if you just say "next".
[QUOTE=BuckDancer;1908071]My Brothers, Tonight I had my first meet and greet with a potential SB. I found her on Craigslist and wasn't expecting much. We conversed for a while via email. And when I asked for picture she said your crazy! Not right off the bat! So ok, we communicated for a while over the next week. I told her I could not host, she also said she could not as roomates were involved. Ok, hotel it is. Well we decided to meet at a local chain restaurant on the other side of town from me. I was excited and nervous the whole time. She has a email that suggests dissonance reduction, during the entire exchange I'm trying to find info about her. I am obviously using a junk email. So anyway to the meeting day today, we agree on the time and place and I am nervous. We email right up to the meeting and meet outside, then go into the restaurant. Now I have told her I'm married and need discretion. She's fine with that. I ask if she would like a table or sit at the bar, she picks a half table right at the entrance. I'm thinking WTF? Sitting duck. Any way we sit and she goes to the restroom and comes back and we order drinks, By the way she has long red hair and is hot, I'm thinking this I'd too good to be true. No boobs but that's ok, her body is hot. I'll call her red for the red hair. We make conversation and it's ok, but I'm still nervous. She seems nonchalant and detached. I told her I was nervous and she said she wasn't due to her job as a social worker and she deals with difficult situations all the time. I was good but maybe a little too curious as to why she picked me out of the hundreds of emails she got, and wasn't she concerned at all for her safety. I'm a softy like that. I inquired as to why she was interested in doing this and she said I'm young and still hot so why not! (she's 25). She then opened a little and said her parents are dirt poor, and they exhausted their savings to send a brother to dive school. IThere was never any mention of $ and I asked what she thought of what she wanted as an arrangement, she indicated she would prefer to discuss that via email later. I was fine with that. Waiter asked if we wanted to order she said no here for a drink only. We finished drinks and I told her I would lokk forward to hearing from her. I offered to walk her to her car, but said no I'll walk myself I have a knife and mace. So we left together and went our separate ways. Funny thing, I saw an unmarked cop car turn it's lights on and leave a parking space 5-6 down from me when I was walking towards my vehicle. Question Am I paranoid? There has never been a discussion on $ and I know I'm clean right now, and wouldn't she try to entrap me? Other question If that's nothing it seems she is just not interested? If that's the case I'll move on, no worries, but she was hot, well kept and very smart. Suggestions, comments, observations welcome![/QUOTE]Craigslist for some reason attracts lots of cops. Don not in any way discuss money over email this to me is a big red flag. Or via phone. I only discuss in person if I have to. Usually I wait until after FC is over then give it to them.
Her not showing pics is also very suspicious. A female cop is not going to send you pics either. Women sending pics is standard. She should not have a problem with this.
Finally meet her personally and escalate physically quickly. Start touching her on the arm. Then touch on the upper arm and hand. Then the back. Hold hands with her. You pick the table. And place make it intimate. Look for her reaction she should be happy to see you and welcome your escalation. If she is a cop she will not let you do any of these things. Finally go for a kiss when you are getting closer and closer to her physically. She what she does.
I am afraid you have a problem here.
Be careful out there.
Revvo.
Well I did a little sherlocking last night, In the meeting she told me her first name only and what she did for a living. Well hooville is a very small town. I took a stab that she actually told me her real first name. And lo and behold I found her and found out everything about her. I found her on Linkdin, facebook, twitter etc. She is who she says she is, so I'm not so worried about the LE angle anymore. I just think the awkwardness and both of us being new to the bowl threw up the flags. Good thing is I used junk email, google voice number, and fake name, paid in cash, so I've learned well from this thread. I don; t think she can figure me out at this point. But I know her. She is a hot 25 year old and I'd like to get her in FC, I did email her this AM asking how she thought it went. SO we'll see if no response I'll move on. Thanks for all the comments and advice. Rock on!
[QUOTE=BigTigger;1907974]$600.
Furnished, but I will buy a bigger bed.
She based her comments on the ad I placed. I was clear in my ad that I would always have a guest.
She knows, but does not care. Just wants the money.
BT.[/QUOTE]BT, can you bang the landlady? LOL Or is she a 60 yr old beast?
Buck, this girl Red has cop written all over her. Backup car in the parking lot, table right at the front door, weird communications. Run, don't walk. It's better to miss a good POT than get into a mess.
Cops will not go somewhere private since they have to have backup nearby. If a girl will meet you in the FC of your choice (last minute) then she is unlikely to be LE. Escorts tell me that setup stings are highly orchestrated with adjacent hotel rooms already rented and populated with the team.
[QUOTE=FredMoore;1908400]BT, can you bang the landlady? LOL Or is she a 60 yr old beast?
[/QUOTE]I've not met the owner of the condo yet, but my guess is she's probably in her 60's. She's semi-retired and helps with her grandbabies. I'd think that banging her could cause problems when a hot young SB is brought over later. Now if it will get me a reduction in the rent. We may be able to negotiate...LOL.
I think I may have a replacement for MsThickness. I found someone with much of the same physically, who communicates regularly and better. She also has her own job and car. She lives 15 minutes from my new Tiggapad and is extremely sexual. I'll be meeting her right before I see the new space. I then have a date with MsThickness, she's on her period, so I'll get sucked pretty dry before the night is over. I may save it and hit the new girl up again. She's hot and horny and might just break me off some in the backseat...lol...we'll see.
MsHipsnThighs got a new job with regular day hours. Not sure how much I'll be seeing her.
Still working on the short spinner. She's communicated daily and ready to get Tiggabounced, she's practically begging for it. Interesting turn of events. I think she was doing good until I started kissing on her neck and put her hand on the TiggaStick. She then got all extra hot and ready to go. I don't think she's even worried about the money at this point. But I'll hold her off a little longer. I have to get a room to take advantage of that and right now I'm only spending hotel money on MsThickness.
I think I got a winner in the new Thick one.
I think I'm going to hurt the spinner...she's so small...but I got to do it at least once or twice.
I think MsThickness will be sad about me moving on. But I'll string her along for a few more weeks. She's great in bed.
I think that CL is more profitable lately than I ever imagined.
I think I need to settle in on 1 or 2 before I lose my job!
BigTigg...out!
[QUOTE=Beachesnole02;1908374]Knife and Mace, squirrely emails and conversation. This just sounds like trouble. Might work out fine, at first, but some how some where you have Michael Douglas and Glenn Close doing a Fatal Attraction scene playing in the back of your head. Some pussy is better off if you just say "next".[/QUOTE]Buck,
I know lots of young girls who carry mace or pepper spray in their purses, my daughters included. Sadly, it is a fact of modern life. But a knife? That would freak me out a little.
I see you have verified that she is a legitimate civvy, but if it were me I would still proceed with a little caution, although having said that, I do confess to liking the edgy ones myself. What's the harm in a second m&g, with the understanding that the FC will be close by if needed? If she is new to the Bowl, she may be figuring it out the same way you are.
Welcome to the club, good luck, and of course.
Don't forget to write!
Scott.
[QUOTE=BigTigger;1907974]$600.
Furnished, but I will buy a bigger bed.
She based her comments on the ad I placed. I was clear in my ad that I would always have a guest.
She knows, but does not care. Just wants the money.
BT.[/QUOTE]BT,
Once again, you are out on the edge of the horizon when it comes to innovative approaches to the Bowl! What a great idea.
I would add that there is a website, [URL]airbnb.com[/URL], where you can rent a single bedroom in an apartment either by the day, week or month. They are usually in great neighborhoods, at least in the Chicago area, and it seems like no one gives a shit what you do, as long as you pay the fee. Once I am out from under the spotlight on the guard tower, I think I may check this angle out myself. Some are furnished, some are not, but the cost is far less than a hotel room on average, especially if you have more than one baby in rotation, or are meeting more than once a week. Plus you get to stock it with any of your personal requirements, and then leave them there instead of a hidey-hole somewhere on home grounds.
BTW, it's great to see so many newbies posting up. I truly believe this is the greatest thread on the site, bar none.
Keep those reports coming.
Scott.
[QUOTE=Revvo;1907874]So a couple of days ago I get contacted by a very hot looking Russian POT. She says she is educated, speaks four languages and is wonderful. She said she had a SD when she lived in Russia. We started chatting and then she disappeared. Next day she texted me again and started chatting again. She seemed a little rushed and frantic. But well spoken freindly and easily a 9/9/ She almost immediately asked for a time to meet and asked me if 500 a week would be good with me. I did not answer just kept engaging her in conversation.
But she wanted to talk business. Then she asked me if 2000 per month is a good amount. At this time I really was not so sure in meeting with her. But what the hell. So I told her I could not do that amount but we could talk allowance after we know each other a while. Then I said we could do 150 per visit for now.
She said that was too low and don't be cheap Revvo. Not nasty just like she was trying to move me forward. So I then told her that the amount was too much but thanks and I wished her luck and I hope she gets what she wants.
A little while later she texts me 300 and then asks for a meeting that night. I tell her no thanks 150 and I do not negotiate and that I do not want this to be a negotiation. Because she will not be happy after it is over. And that does not lead to a good encounter. She then tells me how smart and sexy and wonderful she is and that the girls I am meeting are ugly. I say all I have been with are beautiful and educated and sexy and fun. I said that she is great. You should get what you want. Just not from me.
She then went to 250 then to 200. This was over couple hours. I told her that while we were chatting 50 more girls have signed up for that site.
Finally I agreed to 200 and am scheduled to meet on Friday. Not sure if I want to go. What do you think? Do you think this will be an quality engagement? Or do you think she is a UTR or pro? Tineye showed her picture on one of those Russian mail order bride sites. No where else.
I am a little leery. What are your thoughts?
Revvo.[/QUOTE]Negotiating a lower price tends lower the quality of the service provided. I would never want to think there is any resentment in any girl I am with. There are exceptions. I may have one to write about this weekend.
[QUOTE=FScott;1908792]BT,
Once again, you are out on the edge of the horizon when it comes to innovative approaches to the Bowl! What a great idea.
I would add that there is a website, [URL]airbnb.com[/URL], where you can rent a single bedroom in an apartment either by the day, week or month. They are usually in great neighborhoods, at least in the Chicago area, and it seems like no one gives a shit what you do, as long as you pay the fee. Once I am out from under the spotlight on the guard tower, I think I may check this angle out myself. Some are furnished, some are not, but the cost is far less than a hotel room on average, especially if you have more than one baby in rotation, or are meeting more than once a week. Plus you get to stock it with any of your personal requirements, and then leave them there instead of a hidey-hole somewhere on home grounds.
BTW, it's great to see so many newbies posting up. I truly believe this is the greatest thread on the site, bar none.
Keep those reports coming.
Scott.[/QUOTE]I tried airbnb but for Baltimore the price for one with private bath was running $100 or more plus deposits. In some cases that is more than a hotel. Plus you have to give / prove all your personal info. With CL, you can get someone that just wants their money.
BiggTigg.
Just a word of warning, if you are truly sugaring in tiny hooville, and hooville is really small, if you do get her to the FC and develop her as an SB, then there is a good chance she will learn your real I'd.- may or may not be an issue, but I am not sure I would want a mace carrying girl (even a hot 25 year old) knowing what I get up to in my small town. Let's pyt it this way.- I go to any local store and I will know at least 2-3 people.
I only sugar in the large towns that are minimu, 30-45 minutes away. Just my two cents. Stay safe GW.
[QUOTE=BuckDancer;1908394]Well I did a little sherlocking last night, In the meeting she told me her first name only and what she did for a living. Well hooville is a very small town. I took a stab that she actually told me her real first name. And lo and behold I found her and found out everything about her. I found her on Linkdin, facebook, twitter etc. She is who she says she is, so I'm not so worried about the LE angle anymore. I just think the awkwardness and both of us being new to the bowl threw up the flags. Good thing is I used junk email, google voice number, and fake name, paid in cash, so I've learned well from this thread. I don; t think she can figure me out at this point. But I know her. She is a hot 25 year old and I'd like to get her in FC, I did email her this AM asking how she thought it went. SO we'll see if no response I'll move on. Thanks for all the comments and advice. Rock on![/QUOTE]
Guy, You are absolutely correct. I was nervous the whole time I would see someone I knew while in the restaurant. Outside of town has to be where it's safer.
She never responded back so I think she has swum off, and put a brand new ad up on CL exactly the same as the first ad I answered. I hope she becomes more careful for her own sake, If I was able to find out her true I'd than anyone will be able to. Time to go to the bait store and throw a line back in the water.
Happy Fishing!
[QUOTE=FScott;1908792]BT,
Once again, you are out on the edge of the horizon when it comes to innovative approaches to the Bowl! What a great idea.
I would add that there is a website, [URL]airbnb.com[/URL], where you can rent a single bedroom in an apartment either by the day, week or month. They are usually in great neighborhoods, at least in the Chicago area, and it seems like no one gives a shit what you do, as long as you pay the fee. Once I am out from under the spotlight on the guard tower, I think I may check this angle out myself. Some are furnished, some are not, but the cost is far less than a hotel room on average, especially if you have more than one baby in rotation, or are meeting more than once a week. Plus you get to stock it with any of your personal requirements, and then leave them there instead of a hidey-hole somewhere on home grounds.
BTW, it's great to see so many newbies posting up. I truly believe this is the greatest thread on the site, bar none.
Keep those reports coming.
Scott.[/QUOTE]Thanks for the tip Scotty! Hope your trip was successful for you.
I scanned my play zone and found that daily rates are higher than the * Notels that I use, but it is another option. Also, the cheapest option I clicked on had reviews that lauded the friendliness of the owners who live there and the wonderful nightcap they offered as well as the breakfast in the AM. Nice if you are with the SO, but too much involvement for our hobby. I wonder how they would like the screaming orgasms for 3 hours straight LOL.
Met the POT #1 I alluded to earlier. Was 7/7/7/6 with a lot of drama. The CPO was $100 with her own FC but I did not go prepared because of time constraints. I just wanted to check her out. But she turned out to want to do the deed so we did. Only after did we discuss allowance since she was paranoid about LE entrapment. Well I offered $ for that experience to be paid later and the same going forward. The problem is she bugged the crap out of me to pay now, basically blew up my phone. I paid as I promised and now she is all happy wanting to meet regularly. I might keep her on tap as a booty call only. She is definitely not SB quality by my standards. On the plus side, perhaps she will settle down now that she knows I won't screw her, weeeell money wise. And I save $250/ pop compared to my ATF to deposit a load. There will not be an E connection here though.
So I've been busier than normal lately at work and heading out door earlier in the morning. Last week flipping through the radio I stumble across this local radio show that tests men. It's called "war of the roses". A wife or gf that suspects a cheating partner calls in and gets the radio hosts to test the man. The female radio host calls the man's cell and says he won a free dozen long stem red roses and he can choose to have them sent to anyone in the continental US at zero charge. I listened on the radio (and then checked out the website) as almost all of these guys send the roses to their mistress. I'm pointing out this lesson so that if something free like this this comes along, use your Brain not your dick. Send the freebie to your wife and include a nice sappy message about how you love her and are sorry you've been so distracted with work lately!! Don't send the flowers to your ATF SB... Ie. Give the dick pounding to your SB and the flowers to your wife. I recommend pulling the website and listen to a few. Just search war of the roses radio...
Good Luck and stay safe,
PF
[QUOTE=PatsFan1;1909392]So I've been busier than normal lately at work and heading out door earlier in the morning. Last week flipping through the radio I stumble across this local radio show that tests men. It's called "war of the roses". A wife or gf that suspects a cheating partner calls in and gets the radio hosts to test the man. The female radio host calls the man's cell and says he won a free dozen long stem red roses and he can choose to have them sent to anyone in the continental US at zero charge. I listened on the radio (and then checked out the website) as almost all of these guys send the roses to their mistress. I'm pointing out this lesson so that if something free like this this comes along, use your Brain not your dick. Send the freebie to your wife and include a nice sappy message about how you love her and are sorry you've been so distracted with work lately!! Don't send the flowers to your ATF SB... Ie. Give the dick pounding to your SB and the flowers to your wife. I recommend pulling the website and listen to a few. Just search war of the roses radio...
Good Luck and stay safe,
PF[/QUOTE]That's funny right there, I don't care who you are! Some dudes just deserve to get caught.
So I am high as a kite. Just got done with a M&G from a really nice POT. I have not been actively looking but I ran across this nice simple profile. The POT was 5'3" normal body and wait for it "Colombian". So I have covered this on this site before. But Colombian women are in my opinion the best this world has to offer. They are beautiful, sexy, fun, they have great attitudes, and they are what so many POTs describe themselves as but are not "down to earth". Well she was all of these things and more. She is finishing up her LPN training.
Even though she posted no pics on her profile, I could tell this was a quality woman. Let me first say about amateurs. There are different kinds of amateurs. I always ask how they found out about the site. Usually they say they were told by a friend, which means the friend is making lots of money and they want to make lots of money also. That is a GPS warning from an amateur. They will also say I have been on the site before or had a SD before. That is less of an amateur. She is more savvy. But this one said. I was curious and thought I would check it out. She said she had needs. I love it. This is my kind of amateur. Fresh and needing to be fucked.
So we started texting and she was very shy but cool. I was going to really need to take my time with her. Then we moved to the phone. Even better. What a sweet little sexy voice with that thick accent. I could get hard just talking to her. Then she sent me the pics. Nothing too risque but one was in her undies. Wow beautiful. I really really like her look. And I always look for quality and that connection. Let me tell you after my run ins with that crazy Russian UTR below. This was so pleasant. She was not demanding or vulgar or rude. She was sweet, intelligent, thoughtfulcute, fun, sexy, and willing to ride along on our adventure. Love it. So far.
She is gorgeous in the face, really nice hair and nails. Very well kept from head to toe. A little thick but as I have said before. I do not prefer thick women it usually is another way of saying fat. But she is thick in a good way. Large curvy ass, but no fat and a really flat stomach. And man what a set of titties. Can't wait to get into them. I am giving her a 9.5/8/10/? So far. We met she was on time and she agreed she needed to take it slow. And I did not have a problem with this since my other three were keeping me busy. But I must say I am having some issues. My Brazilian baby has gone dark, and my girl next door is way over swamped with work and schedule issues. So I have a little time on my hands. I am only servicing my Venezuelan baby right now.
The meeting was at a Starbucks and we Sat. And talked outside. She was very responsive and I escalated touching a lot and she reciprocated. Great sign. She asked lots of questions and she responded well to my flirtatious comments. Latin and especially Colombian women are so naturally sexual and uninhibited. She let me know that she was very shy at first but gets wild once she gets to know me. She has a killer ass. And she was wearing the tightest white jeans. OMG they look like they were spray painted on. And the smile and the little laugh. So fucking sexy. She was so sensual so feminine. No games or bullshit.
Anyway we went across the street for lunch after Starbucks and she called her Mom to let her know she was extending the visit. Then we had lunch and talked expectations and schedules. She was completely on board. But I will have to work this slow. No problem. We are meeting again on Tuesday. We had the greatest kiss, which she was really ready for since I did not have to lean in too far for she came the rest of the way to me. I think she is getting ready for a good stiff dick.
Awesome time. Even if it ended now it was a great connection. There is something so much easier and less forced and more natural about Colombian women.
Oh by the way. On the other issue below. I got tested and I am negative on all 8 STDs. Wife just has her first ever yeast infection. She went to doctor and he is treating it as so. I hear I could still have Trich but I have no symptoms. Is that possible?
Revvo.
Question for the gallery. How do you typically portray yourself to the babies? It's obvious that a number of these girls are attracted to wealth, power, perceived status, and other superficial things. Do you exagerate your networth, net income? What do you tell them you do for an occupation if you are really a mid level manager toiling away in corporate american. Curious if I should play into what these girls want and pretend to be a little more than what I am or if I should be 100% real as can be.
Also as a caveat, for the most part I'm looking for 1. 3 times and then moving onto the next baby. Not looking to get locked into anyone for a long term situation.
I'll hang up and listen.
So...have been doing this SA thing for almost two years, and like the rest of you it has made my world a much, much better place. I've noticed some patterns / techniques along the way, these are only my $.02 so take it for what its worth...as a point of reference, I'm relatively young (41), slim, decent looking, professional...and single, which is huge I know as I can let it "hang out" a bit more than some of you. Anyway...my observations...and no these don't always apply, just generalizations:
1. Girls with facial piercings / tatoos will fuck you silly...and fast...just seems to be an indicator.
2. Artists are great.
3. Dancers / Strippers / Models suck.
4. Girls who use the words "pamper" or "princess" or "Leboutin / Louis Vutton / Hermes etc." in their profiles are to be avoided.
5. Students / Good girls. Ah yes, the reluctant hookers...here's what I find, and maybe this works for me because I'm on the younger end of the SD spectrum? Once we've started talking and I get them comfortable, the conversation turns to the nature of the relationship...I throw out the "well there are two ways to look at this SA thing...one that it is selective prostitution, the other that it is a way for younger women to meet awesome older guys that they might be attracted to but would not normally have a way to meet"...or something along those lines. Most of these "students / good girls" will self-select into the latter category. Once they do this, I find that if I take them out to nice restaurants, treat them nice etc. Etc., I often don't have to pay for the extracurricular activities. I'm on my fourth in a row where there is no money for sex, per se, as long as I'm willing to spend $100 bucks or so on dinner...which I am.
6. Flyouts are a great tool. Once you get to know them, tell them you will fly them to meet you on business trips (if you travel), and you will cover all expenses...this can be a great thing, as miles are free and / or some flights are really cheap, you have to get the hotels and rental cars anyway for work etc. Etc. I've had several multi-day fuck-filled trips for as little as a $200 plane ticket and a little added expense at mealtime.
Anyway, some thoughts...was wondering if you guys had rules you live by as you weed through the profiles?
[QUOTE=HighCotton;1909639]So...have been doing this SA thing for almost two years, and like the rest of you it has made my world a much, much better place. I've noticed some patterns / techniques along the way, these are only my $.02 so take it for what its worth...as a point of reference, I'm relatively young (41), slim, decent looking, professional...and single, which is huge I know as I can let it "hang out" a bit more than some of you. Anyway...my observations...and no these don't always apply, just generalizations:
1. Girls with facial piercings / tatoos will fuck you silly...and fast...just seems to be an indicator.
2. Artists are great.
3. Dancers / Strippers / Models suck.
4. Girls who use the words "pamper" or "princess" or "Leboutin / Louis Vutton / Hermes etc." in their profiles are to be avoided.
5. Students / Good girls. Ah yes, the reluctant hookers...here's what I find, and maybe this works for me because I'm on the younger end of the SD spectrum? Once we've started talking and I get them comfortable, the conversation turns to the nature of the relationship...I throw out the "well there are two ways to look at this SA thing...one that it is selective prostitution, the other that it is a way for younger women to meet awesome older guys that they might be attracted to but would not normally have a way to meet"...or something along those lines. Most of these "students / good girls" will self-select into the latter category. Once they do this, I find that if I take them out to nice restaurants, treat them nice etc. Etc., I often don't have to pay for the extracurricular activities. I'm on my fourth in a row where there is no money for sex, per se, as long as I'm willing to spend $100 bucks or so on dinner...which I am.
6. Flyouts are a great tool. Once you get to know them, tell them you will fly them to meet you on business trips (if you travel), and you will cover all expenses...this can be a great thing, as miles are free and / or some flights are really cheap, you have to get the hotels and rental cars anyway for work etc. Etc. I've had several multi-day fuck-filled trips for as little as a $200 plane ticket and a little added expense at mealtime.
Anyway, some thoughts...was wondering if you guys had rules you live by as you weed through the profiles?[/QUOTE]Nice summary HC Ahh, to be 40 again! These HCGs who are willing to date you for no allowance, how long do they last? Are they one and done or do you have to kick them to the curb? Do you date IRL? Or do you only date SBs?
I have learned that rules are only to be broken. But I have found for me that:
1) 24 to 28 yr old single college grads work best. Preferably the 8's,which I upgrade because of performance.
2) dancers, strippers, beautiful girls / models are GPS or UTRs.
3) single mothers are too difficult to maneuver with due to scheduling and babysitting.
4) teens are too schizoid and either unrealistic or Pros.
5) over 30 don't appeal to me.
Having said that I have had success with almost every category, but loads of failures. My search age is 18 to 29 The best 1 niter was 19 ,the best long termer was 28.
[QUOTE=HighCotton;1909639]So...have been doing this SA thing for almost two years, and like the rest of you it has made my world a much, much better place. I've noticed some patterns / techniques along the way, these are only my $.02 so take it for what its worth...as a point of reference, I'm relatively young (41), slim, decent looking, professional...and single, which is huge I know as I can let it "hang out" a bit more than some of you. Anyway...my observations...and no these don't always apply, just generalizations:
1. Girls with facial piercings / tatoos will fuck you silly...and fast...just seems to be an indicator.
2. Artists are great.
3. Dancers / Strippers / Models suck.
4. Girls who use the words "pamper" or "princess" or "Leboutin / Louis Vutton / Hermes etc." in their profiles are to be avoided.
5. Students / Good girls. Ah yes, the reluctant hookers...here's what I find, and maybe this works for me because I'm on the younger end of the SD spectrum? Once we've started talking and I get them comfortable, the conversation turns to the nature of the relationship...I throw out the "well there are two ways to look at this SA thing...one that it is selective prostitution, the other that it is a way for younger women to meet awesome older guys that they might be attracted to but would not normally have a way to meet"...or something along those lines. Most of these "students / good girls" will self-select into the latter category. Once they do this, I find that if I take them out to nice restaurants, treat them nice etc. Etc., I often don't have to pay for the extracurricular activities. I'm on my fourth in a row where there is no money for sex, per se, as long as I'm willing to spend $100 bucks or so on dinner...which I am.
[/QUOTE]Jesus, Cotton, are you reading my mind? Quit it!!
#'s 1 and 2 are my go-to guidelines. I love the quirky, creative, artistic types anyway, and the fact that they will shed their clothes in a minute is a decided bonus as far as I'm concerned; #'s 3 and 4 are my personal red flags; and I love to put persuasion time into catagory #5, as it often pays off wonderfully in the long run.
That said, I would also agree with Fred in that there is often sucess to be had in every catagory, and I have certainly had some outstanding times with single moms. Scheduling is often difficult, but the pent-up demand for a solid pounding always makes up for it.
[QUOTE=HighCotton;1909639]So...have been doing this SA thing for almost two years, and like the rest of you it has made my world a much, much better place. I've noticed some patterns / techniques along the way, these are only my $.02 so take it for what its worth...as a point of reference, I'm relatively young (41), slim, decent looking, professional...and single, which is huge I know as I can let it "hang out" a bit more than some of you. Anyway...my observations...and no these don't always apply, just generalizations:
1. Girls with facial piercings / tatoos will fuck you silly...and fast...just seems to be an indicator.
2. Artists are great.
3. Dancers / Strippers / Models suck.
4. Girls who use the words "pamper" or "princess" or "Leboutin / Louis Vutton / Hermes etc." in their profiles are to be avoided.
5. Students / Good girls. Ah yes, the reluctant hookers...here's what I find, and maybe this works for me because I'm on the younger end of the SD spectrum? Once we've started talking and I get them comfortable, the conversation turns to the nature of the relationship...I throw out the "well there are two ways to look at this SA thing...one that it is selective prostitution, the other that it is a way for younger women to meet awesome older guys that they might be attracted to but would not normally have a way to meet"...or something along those lines. Most of these "students / good girls" will self-select into the latter category. Once they do this, I find that if I take them out to nice restaurants, treat them nice etc. Etc., I often don't have to pay for the extracurricular activities. I'm on my fourth in a row where there is no money for sex, per se, as long as I'm willing to spend $100 bucks or so on dinner...which I am.
6. Flyouts are a great tool. Once you get to know them, tell them you will fly them to meet you on business trips (if you travel), and you will cover all expenses...this can be a great thing, as miles are free and / or some flights are really cheap, you have to get the hotels and rental cars anyway for work etc. Etc. I've had several multi-day fuck-filled trips for as little as a $200 plane ticket and a little added expense at mealtime.
Anyway, some thoughts...was wondering if you guys had rules you live by as you weed through the profiles?[/QUOTE]1. Tongue or lip pierced girls. Weird attitudes and not very good kissers.
2. Artists. Think too much with their head instead of their pussy.
3. Mostly not so good, but my opinion is changing, since my current "girlfriend" is a nude dancer.
4. Princess is fine, if it's a state of mind.
5. Only looking for good girls, no pros and very limited on the UTR scene.
6. Haven't tried it.
[QUOTE=HollywoodGuy;1909792]1. Tongue or lip pierced girls. Weird attitudes and not very good kissers.
2. Artists. Think too much with their head instead of their pussy.
3. Mostly not so good, but my opinion is changing, since my current "girlfriend" is a nude dancer.
4. Princess is fine, if it's a state of mind.
5. Only looking for good girls, no pros and very limited on the UTR scene.
6. Haven't tried it.[/QUOTE]HG and I can have almost the totally opposite take on these points, and yet we are clearly both successful in our pursuit. It just proves that there are babies out there for all of us, and it is our task to figure out how to land them.
Tally ho!
Scott.
Met the owner renting the room. She is not doable, LOL. Made the deal for $600 per month, month to month. Nice furnished room. I will change the sheets and leave a,few clothes. Private suite, high rise with security. Easy parking.
Met the other POT. She is short, big boobs, cute butt. We talked, flirted, kissed, etc. She agreed to drive down tomorrow night and get a room close by my work. Tiggabounce tomorrow.
Ms Thickness canceled on me.
BT.
[QUOTE=HollywoodGuy;1909792]1. Tongue or lip pierced girls. Weird attitudes and not very good kissers.
I don't so much notice how the tongue-pierced girls kiss...but it works in other areas...LOL :-)
[QUOTE=Revvo;1909607]
Oh by the way. On the other issue below. I got tested and I am negative on all 8 STDs. Wife just has her first ever yeast infection. She went to doctor and he is treating it as so. I hear I could still have Trich but I have no symptoms. Is that possible?
Revvo.[/QUOTE]Revvo. Glad to hear you're clear. Trich is tough as it is tough to diagnose just from male specimens. If your wife is still having problems after treating BV / Yeast over the counter then, it may be tich. My guess is she'll be fine after the OC treatments.
I'll have to do a bit of research to see what your options are. Occam's Razor says that it is probably BV or yeast. But trich is pretty common (HPV more so). My guess is you're fine...but as Andy Grove said "Only the Paranoid Survive".
I totally agree with you about South American women!
[QUOTE=FredMoore;1909736]Nice summary HC Ahh, to be 40 again! These HCGs who are willing to date you for no allowance, how long do they last? Are they one and done or do you have to kick them to the curb? Do you date IRL? Or do you only date SBs?
Agree completely mid-20s is my sweet spot...
How long do they last...lets see...two I had to break it off as they wanted to be bf/gf...which was hard, as they were both mid-20s with a destructive combination of hardbodiness and sex drive :( Couple of one and dones (granted I dropped $100-150 on dinner and drinks for the evening). Three are ongoing....though one of those I think just uses me for backup sex...she's notoriously unreliable (e.g. breaks off dates), so I think I'm just her goto if all else fails...which is totally cool with me...I get it, yes I do :-)
And don't get me wrong, these are not the norm...I've had to wade through many a "I want $500 per visit" (NOT) to get there...but I think we've all found our little niches to play in...
[QUOTE=HighCotton;1909639]
3. Dancers / Strippers / Models suck.
[/QUOTE]I think this holds true within the US mostly. When I was a sophomore in college, I dated a Playboy centerfold (long story how it happened. Just call me lucky). She was the epitome of a dead fish. Worst fuck I've had. I've had much better luck outside the USA.
When I lived in Japan, I dated both a TV / Movie actress (learned to hate paparazzi), and her BFF (a model) after the broke-up (long story). The actress was a total freak (think Wide Eyes Shut), and the model was the best sex I've ever had hands down. She'd do anything to please. I was close to marrying the model when a f'ing Investment banker grabbed her (I was poor then). She's in NYC now...and still stays in touch (fingers crossed we'll meet again).
The moral of the story is don't over generalize. But I do think strippers in the US are jaded. Third rate models as well.