Tips reward good service; not cover shortfalls of cheap employers
[QUOTE=Dr Bombay;1169130]Was that feminist? I was trying for an Occam's Razor statement, maybe you just inferred it that way. Maybe we didn't read the same posts. I read grabbed-twice stated, you inferred it meant guide. You seem to infer a lot of stuff. Reading the CL ads must make you positively giddy. Anyway, my point was about anyone in the service industries. I've had good endings, bad endings and indifferent do-it-yourself endings, but the only time I can think of no ending is because of a warning, cops hanging around the area too much or something out of the ordinary happened making it necessary to lay low for a few days. Since the house gets most of the money, she is basically working for free. That's why I thought a few dollars as a tip is better than none at all. After all, it's not often you get a good massage at these places. Did he say he paid 80 for a half hour?[/QUOTE]"No means no" is one of their standard slogans.
The argument that a customer is obligated to pay an employee extra money on the grounds that her employer keeps the fee is a fallacy. First, how do you know that the house keeps most of the money? Second, if the house isn't paying her a fair wage for her work, she's free to leave. Third, there are laws that prohibit employers from making employees work for free. In the massage business, I'd think an owner would be very careful not to upset his employees, and find himself accused of human trafficking.
Finally, he paid 60 for a half hour, which is 20 more than a professional massage at a therapeutic spa. Her 20 "tip" for the massage was already included in the 60.
If a hotel garage charges you $30 to park your car for two hours, and the valet doesn't even bother to hold the door open for you, and he moved your seat and changed the radio station, would you give him a big tip anyway because the hotel keeps most of the parking fee?
I'm not sure why you're so fixated on what I infer. The word "inference" exists because it's fair for reasonable people to draw inferences from others based on how they act and what they say.
Wendy Thai of Springfield
Has another offering named Sunny. She's a bit different than Wendy so the offerings are an alternative to Wendy's Thai massage and can be worth a try, as they say."variety is the spice of life"!
MnV
Paying too much, unecessarily
[QUOTE=Max Beelyun;1171359]If you are only looking for johnson service, then I agree with your assessment. I generally tip on provider attitude, massage quality, and extras. To me, the extras are important, but not everything. The last lady I saw did not disrobe or do anything beyond "fucking HJ", but the massage was great and unrushed, and her hands were talented, and I was the center of her world for a good hour. That's gold, and well worth the 80 tip. The cost was comparable to that of a very good certified massage therapist for a similar amount of time. I would, and will, do it again.[/QUOTE]If you're paying. 8 then tipping. 8 in a spa, you're just paying too much for something that's available for less, and at higher quality. There are a number of superb trained masseuses who give an excellent therapeutic deep-tissue massage, with an appropriate finish, charge 1. 2 complete, with are no worries about whether you'll get shorted on time.
Trusted seniors (including those I've argued with) can PM me for a few recommendations.
You need to check the reviews
[QUOTE=Meetmehalfway6;1171792]Anyone ever been? Just moved to the area and saw that is a very easy ride for me to get to. Just curious if anyone has any experience there.[/QUOTE]But basically, before they changed management (and I changed job locations) , I used to frequent that place on a somewhat regular basis after workouts at the gym. The MMS would take care of me personally, because she knew about my shoulder. I always received a full hour and got a good, solid rubdown. If you're looking for other services, it wasn't available except on the rare one-off basis from an "entrepreneurial" therapist. Can't tell you much about the place under the current management, since I've not visited since they changed over. [U]You[/U] Can find out, but you need to take the effort (I. E. Search) and read through the reviews. Don't expect folks to deliver info to you on a silver platter. If you're new to the area, we're willing to help, but you need to show some intiative of your own first. Happy hunting.
R:R
Thai massage lady on Van Dorn
Saw this ad and thought it might be the Thai place why'all have been posting about. It wasnt. .
GORGEOUS THAI ASIAN bust 36-26-36, 115lbs. 5ft. Offer sensuous full body massage. Combination relaxing and relieves your stress by soft and sweet body hand magic touch. 10:30am-9:30pm.
Definitely not 115 pounds, and those are NOT her measurements. Older thai lady. Mid 40's maybe. More of a body rub than a massage. Gave a really nice ball massage along with the standard NoVa finish. All in 120. Would I repeat? Probably not. I was looking for a young hot thai girl.
Had The Same 4 months ago
Had the same deal (inside) last year. But didn't know how to describe the 'cake wrap'. I'll never go back.
[QUOTE=Miketastic69; 1172185]First of all, I got the scare of my life when I walked out of there there was a panel van with 2 guys sitting there appeared to be watching the door when I came out. I just knew it was LEO and they had my tag. There not much around that place so I had no choice but to jump in my car. I deliberately drove past them and it appeared to be two guys eating lunch in the van and shooting the sh. Its been about 2-weeks and I haven't got a knock on my door so I must just be paranoid.
Drew a 20ish fit korean girl with tiny A's. She was a cute as they come. I knew this was not going to be too fun just on age and my perception of experience. TS was nice and not too much roaming. I was told to "stop you're going to get me wet!" I was put off by the attitude.
Massage was pretty good, and long. It took damn near an hour just on the massage even though the TS was nearly 20 minutes. So I am an hour and 10 minutes into the session when the flip came. She starts fingernail stroking my legs and asks. What do I want? I saide everyting. She said 1. 0 and left. She returned disrobed and pulled out plastic cake wrap. She went for a CBJ with the cake wrap. Let me roam all over and play. However there was no FS and cake wrap made me feel awkward. She finally gave up (pretty quickly) and gave me an uninspired HJ. Once she gave up she didn't want me to roam any more.
What a disappointment. The upsell was for FS and then nothing but a fake CBJ with kitchen supplies and an uninspired HJ with an attitude.
8/1. 0 9appearance / 5service[/QUOTE]
Something I understand now.
I've read how several have report falling in love with one of these really nice ladies.
Well, I'm not in love, but I have found I really like my therapist. I really look forward to my usual visits and really great massages et al. And. (although I am not partucularly gullible). I like to believe she really misses me (like she tells me she does).
The facility is not the newest. But is a very good place.
The TS. Excellent (but not as big as a Castle.
I'm treated better than a Prince. And the taste is better than a basket of Peaches, Apples, or the fruits of Asia.
The massage is much more Comfortable than a Therapeutic Massaggi.
I could go on. But I will close saying a MMS that knows my name, standard rates, the TIP is up to me.
Always be nice to the ladies.
I saw mine twice. And it is still early April.
PA.
Less talk on the amount of tips, more posts with intel. And for any that don't know where and who, it is only because you've not done any homework
Multiple Visits this Week. First Stop: Papaya
Having time and money to burn, I finally made it back to Papaya earlier this week after, geez, probably 6. 8 months. Last visit was very good but with my normal haunts being around Springfield, I don't get out to the Tysons area very often.
Anyway, I jet out to Papaya. Looking forward to it very much. I believe the reviews as of late have been good. Greeted by Mamasan who didn't seem terribly excited and escorts me to my room.
After 10. 15 minutes of waiting, my provider comes in. Maybe late 20s or 30s, very curvy, very pretty in my eyes and wearing a very tight and short dress. Believe her name was Haley or something along those lines.
To the shower where she gives me a fairly standard TS. Back to the room for what is actually a pretty good and strong massage. I flip over and she commences with the standard finish.
Overall, the visit was fine. I was hoping it would be higher quality. I liked Haley very much, thought she was quite lovely and delivered a very good massage. Would I go back? Maybe down the road. I don't think I'll be racing back anytime soon.
Multiple Visits this Week: 2nd Stop: M&M
Alrighty. In the past week I had hit H&H in DC (really my 1st stop. You can see the review in the DC pages) followed by Papaya in Tysons.
For #2 in VA, decided to try M&M which has been advertising on Craigslist and elsewhere I suppose. M&M is literally in my neighborhood off of Franconia which kind of surprises me since I'm use to seeing AMPs on the other side of 95.
Anyway, I hadn't seen much in the way of reviews and decided to take one for the team.
Up the steps and into the building (love a discrete entrance) where I bounded up the stairs to the main entrance. Greeted by a very nice gal at the front door. Seemed a bit young to be a mamasan. But friendly and seemed to be excited to have a customer.
Takes me to my room. Little kitchenette area along the main hallway area. Facilities look nice, fairly new and clean. I pay for an hour and wait for my provider.
In comes Gina (sp?). Gina looks a tad older (late 40s or early 50s?) but has a very nice smile and is very friendly.
To the TS. Does a nice job, cleans all the areas, dries me off and back to the room.
Massage was quite excellent. I asked for medium to strong; at times it almost hurt. Good pain I think. Anyway, excellent massage. At the end, she tells me the massage is over but gestures at "you know who" and offers to complete the session. I thank her but decline. The massage was excellent, but I had decided that would be enough and since I had the time, maybe I would visit another establishment.
Overall, great massage. As I walked out the door and got in my car, another hobbyist showed up and ran right in after me. They must be doing something right.