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[QUOTE=TrolleyDodger;6458595]I've done 2 pops with her for 280 and 260. I'm sure others have gotten a better deal. 320 is definitely way too much for her. If you are a repeat customer, there's a better chance that she'll go below 300 for 2 pops. In a year or two, she will be forced to bring down her rates. Father Time is undefeated and I'm certainly looking forward to her $100 blow and go's when that time comes. For now, if Im dropping 320+ for two pops, it will be with a K girl doing a bb special, not someone in their late 60s[/QUOTE]Anyone know if VietKim is on tee eeee are? I searched on there but came up with jack squat. I know there's a lot of info on her in this forum but I thought it might add a different perspective. I've never seen her and am thinking of checking it off my bucket list.

[QUOTE=DannyFknKay;6557093]Anyone know if VietKim is on tee eeee are? I searched on there but came up with jack squat. I know there's a lot of info on her in this forum but I thought it might add a different perspective. I've never seen her and am thinking of checking it off my bucket list.[/QUOTE]The erotic review? Yes she's on there. Be sure you're typing it as one word. Never seen her but did come across her reviews. If you still can't find lmk.

[QUOTE=ChrisPoontang;6549944]Obviously you are new here.

You will quickly learn to ignore that particular persons posts for many different reasons.[/QUOTE]Good advice. There's a certain level of bullshit that rings false to pretty much everyone. Well, almost everyone.

She's not on that site as far as I know. However, you could probably find more information on her than on this site if you google search her. She offers good services (all three holes are available, but she's getting to be quite expensive.

[QUOTE=DannyFknKay;6557093]Anyone know if VietKim is on tee eeee are? I searched on there but came up with jack squat. I know there's a lot of info on her in this forum but I thought it might add a different perspective. I've never seen her and am thinking of checking it off my bucket list.[/QUOTE]

I sent the admin at TER a PM letting them know that they have merged two different providers into one profile. They wrote back with some questions (I can't remember what) and then left it as is. Basically, if you see reviews about someone who is kinky and older then that's Viet Kim. If you see reviews for a MILF who is Fit and a bit wacky then that's FitVietMilf. No different than the reviews on this site in the OC and SGV about Fit and the reviews in OC about Kim.

[QUOTE=DannyFknKay;6557093]Anyone know if VietKim is on tee eeee are? I searched on there but came up with jack squat. I know there's a lot of info on her in this forum but I thought it might add a different perspective. I've never seen her and am thinking of checking it off my bucket list.[/QUOTE]IIRC, you can find her by searching with her phone number. As others have said, she is definitely on there.

[QUOTE=TrolleyDodger;6557683]IIRC, you can find her by searching with her phone number. As others have said, she is definitely on there.[/QUOTE][URL]https://www.eroticmonkey.ch/kim-escort-orange-county-55855[/URL] Legacy photos but same number.

Anyone have intel on her? I have to wait a few days to get VIP access on T E are. Wondering if she's BBFS and as dirty as her namesake. Her name makes it difficult to do a simple search.

[QUOTE=TrolleyDodger;6557704]Anyone have intel on her? I have to wait a few days to get VIP access on T E are. Wondering if she's BBFS and as dirty as her namesake. Her name makes it difficult to do a simple search.[/QUOTE]She is extremely YMMV.

When she is in a good mood you can get BBFS and have a great time.

If you get turned off by a bad attitude then you run the risk of wasting your hard earned cash.

She is used to Capt. SaveAhoes and HX Whiteknights catering to her and allowing her to get away with nonsense.

Ask yourself if her big nose, middleaged body and store brought knockers outweigh the risk in seeing her when she is complaining and bitching.

[QUOTE=SaltyDog;6557703][URL]https://www.eroticmonkey.ch/kim-escort-orange-county-55855[/URL] Legacy photos but same number.[/QUOTE]She's not VietKim.

[QUOTE=TrolleyDodger;6458595]I've done 2 pops with her for 280 and 260. I'm sure others have gotten a better deal. 320 is definitely way too much for her. If you are a repeat customer, there's a better chance that she'll go below 300 for 2 pops. In a year or two, she will be forced to bring down her rates. Father Time is undefeated and I'm certainly looking forward to her $100 blow and go's when that time comes. For now, if Im dropping 320+ for two pops, it will be with a K girl doing a bb special, not someone in their late 60s[/QUOTE]A couple months ago VietKim sent me an unsolicited text saying her price was 220 and 320 for a second pop. 220 gets you an hour, but one pop. As filthy as she is, it is not worth it IMO.

[QUOTE=LC310;6557906]A couple months ago VietKim sent me an unsolicited text saying her price was 220 and 320 for a second pop. 220 gets you an hour, but one pop. As filthy as she is, it is not worth it IMO.[/QUOTE]I used to creampie Viet Kim for 140 hour /160 hour and I would fill her up with back to back creampies. She has one of the best BBBJ out there and she'd get me so hard and worked up with her sloppy BBBJ that I would keep fucking her after the first creampie with no complaints from her. More often than not I would easily manage to bust two loads in her pussy that way. I haven't seen her as often the last couple years because she's been strict on the 1 nut limit. Hopefully the economy crashes and these hoes lower their rates.

[QUOTE=Chaos019;6557234]She's not on that site as far as I know. However, you could probably find more information on her than on this site if you google search her. She offers good services (all three holes are available, but she's getting to be quite expensive.[/QUOTE]She had her reviews removed from TER. At one time there were several hundred. Kim revolutionized the industry with her motel-based operateion & open-minded menu that is well known throughout the United States. Her one and done policy is harsh but you have to play by her rules.

What's the earliest / latest you guys have seen her / her friends? She doesn't really communicate proper hours of operation, haha.

[QUOTE=ChrisPoontang;6557718]She is extremely YMMV.

When she is in a good mood you can get BBFS and have a great time.

If you get turned off by a bad attitude then you run the risk of wasting your hard earned cash.

She is used to Capt. SaveAhoes and HX Whiteknights catering to her and allowing her to get away with nonsense.

Ask yourself if her big nose, middleaged body and store brought knockers outweigh the risk in seeing her when she is complaining and bitching.[/QUOTE]I won't pull the trigger unless it's a slam dunk BBFS affair. Her nipples are what really got my attention. They look amazing. Oh well. Thanks for the info.

[QUOTE=Clams;6549898]I wanted to see her, but it didn't turn out well.

[URL]https://privatedelights.ch/profile/Skymarie[/URL]

She wanted $250 HH, $450 HR for her basic service, long list of No's.

Easy communication and responded very quickly that she was now available. We set up a time at the place she was staying at. I arrived and she told me if I can wait a few minutes so she can be ready, no problem. Those few minutes turned to 30 minutes waiting. I texted her again about the status of our meeting and I got a text saying that her "friend" was ready to see me in my car? Looked like she was doing a Bait & Switch, no pics of her either. I wasn't informed about a "friend" or meeting me in my car. I texted her back about the confusion and no response. I texted her back that I was going home and feeling worried about the friend thing and all she responded was "ok". No explanation, no apologies. Traveled and waited just to get flaked on with a Bait & Switch. Complete waste of time and suspicious.[/QUOTE]That girl Marie was trying to pass on to you is her BFF. They flew to CA together last week. I have always known this girl as JoanaOates, her original handle on Hx, but she has since changed her handle 4 or 5 times after leaving Hx.

I saw her again last week at their incall in Ontario Mills. I parked at the Hilton Garden Inn across then walked over to the next hotel. On my way up, I saw Marie in the lobby sitting by herself and I came over and we hugged and talked. I told her she didn't have to wait there and she can stay in their room while I banged Joana. So we went up the elevator together and she stayed in the bathroom during my date. Reason why she couldn't see you is probably all the appts constantly pinging her phone.

They left Ontario then had an incall in Arcadia the next day. I saw Joana again at the DoubleTree in Monrovia. Then Marie went back to Ontario for another day then flew back home to their home state. Joana left a day earlier than her and never returned to the IE. I am sure these two will be back in a few months.

Joana has one of the tightest pussy ever! She has that unicorn vise grip pussy lips that grabs your cock as you slide in and out, and there is a loud popping sound due to air being trapped inside when you accidentally slide out, then create a new vacuum when you plunged right back in.

You missed out dude. Oh well. Better luck next time.

[QUOTE=AceMcNasty;6559658]That girl Marie was trying to pass on to you is her BFF. They flew to CA together last week. I have always known this girl as JoanaOates, her original handle on Hx, but she has since changed her handle 4 or 5 times after leaving Hx.

I saw her again last week at their incall in Ontario Mills. I parked at the Hilton Garden Inn across then walked over to the next hotel. On my way up, I saw Marie in the lobby sitting by herself and I came over and we hugged and talked. I told her she didn't have to wait there and she can stay in their room while I banged Joana. So we went up the elevator together and she stayed in the bathroom during my date. Reason why she couldn't see you is probably all the appts constantly pinging her phone.

They left Ontario then had an incall in Arcadia the next day. I saw Joana again at the DoubleTree in Monrovia. Then Marie went back to Ontario for another day then flew back home to their home state. Joana left a day earlier than her and never returned to the IE. I am sure these two will be back in a few months.

Joana has one of the tightest pussy ever! She has that unicorn vise grip pussy lips that grabs your cock as you slide in and out, and there is a loud popping sound due to air being trapped inside when you accidentally slide out, then create a new vacuum when you plunged right back in.

You missed out dude. Oh well. Better luck next time.[/QUOTE]She was cool when she was with QueenofDenyle, then she changed her name to like Heidi now. No longer a BBFS provider sadly and will annihilate you for asking. I saw her several times before and BBFS was cool and I even got to creampie her. I saw her last year again under Heidi or whatever her new name is and I thought BBFS will be default but as soon as she was ready to fuck she applied the cover, I stopped her and ask if she doesn't allow pse anymore. She just said no she doesn't offer that anymore even though I've seen her many times. I didn't insist and I actually left early at like 40 minutes into our hour appointment because I was disappointed. Oh well at least I got to BBFS her a bit before she stopped.

Tried texting Kiti and sadly she's been meth'd out by her supplier. She doesn't even recognize my number when I text her. I asked if she was in San celemente still and she said naw she's over in the LA area now. Then she flipped out on me, probably was her meth dealer that took over didn't want to let her leave or something cause I was going to pay for her Uber out to Irvine. She tried to charge me like $$ too! LOL damn! But luckily she agreed $$ but then her wannabe pimp or meth dealer flipped out on me or probably too meth'd out. Damn! Anyone else have luck seeing her?

[QUOTE=Orthopodly651;6559295]What's the earliest / latest you guys have seen her / her friends? She doesn't really communicate proper hours of operation, haha.[/QUOTE]The earliest I banged Mayumi's friends is 10 am and the latest was when I banged Mayumi herself at 10 pm but that must have been a slow day because I have not been able to get in there at that time again. I would avoid going between 7-9 am and 4-6 pm since that's when most people are leaving or getting home from work. The last thing I want is an awkward encounter with the neighbor from across the hall who knows exactly what goes on at Mayumi's.

[QUOTE=TrolleyDodger;6560255]The earliest I banged Mayumi's friends is 10 am and the latest was when I banged Mayumi herself at 10 pm but that must have been a slow day because I have not been able to get in there at that time again. I would avoid going between 7-9 am and 4-6 pm since that's when most people are leaving or getting home from work. The last thing I want is an awkward encounter with the neighbor from across the hall who knows exactly what goes on at Mayumi's.[/QUOTE]I've had no problem seeing her between those hours. She actually smells like she just got out of the shower. She's down for early visits. Personally I'd rather be the first in there instead of going there at 10 pm and being the last.

[QUOTE=SaltyDog;6560358]I've had no problem seeing her between those hours. She actually smells like she just got out of the shower. She's down for early visits. Personally I'd rather be the first in there instead of going there at 10 pm and being the last.[/QUOTE]Unless you are into that of course!

[QUOTE=TrolleyDodger;6557704]Anyone have intel on her? I have to wait a few days to get VIP access on T E are. Wondering if she's BBFS and as dirty as her namesake. Her name makes it difficult to do a simple search.[/QUOTE]I saw her once a little over a year ago, I love big MM! She was cool and I just went for the BBBJ and Russian.

[QUOTE=TrolleyDodger;6557704]Anyone have intel on her? [/QUOTE]I've known her for years. She's fun. Really really nice and very accommodating. Be nice and you will get even nicer in return, (hint hint, wink wink).

However. She doesn't play games. Play stupid games, you WILL get a stupid prize. Don't be a dick. Have fun.

[QUOTE=Orthopodly651;6561983]Unless you are into that of course![/QUOTE]I've asked about seeing one of Mayumi's friends immediately after they get creampied but did not have any luck. They are all meticulous when it comes to hygiene. They shower after every load that gets pumped into their pussies. Even when I go for 2 rounds, they jump into the shower and wash it out extremely well. The only one that let my cum marinate inside was Lina. She kept fucking me after I unloaded. In hindsight, I could have snuck in another round on a 30 min appointment but IIRC it was my first visit to Mayumi's and I didn't want to risk getting black listed for going over my time / doing 2 pops in a HH session. Seriously, I'd pay one of you guys a finders fee via CashApp if you can tell me where Lina is working now. She was one of the best fucks I ever had.

[QUOTE=TrolleyDodger;6566870]I've asked about seeing one of Mayumi's friends immediately after they get creampied but did not have any luck. They are all meticulous when it comes to hygiene. They shower after every load that gets pumped into their pussies. Even when I go for 2 rounds, they jump into the shower and wash it out extremely well. The only one that let my cum marinate inside was Lina. She kept fucking me after I unloaded. In hindsight, I could have snuck in another round on a 30 min appointment but IIRC it was my first visit to Mayumi's and I didn't want to risk getting black listed for going over my time / doing 2 pops in a HH session. Seriously, I'd pay one of you guys a finders fee via CashApp if you can tell me where Lina is working now. She was one of the best fucks I ever had.[/QUOTE]Mayumi has texted me a few times about seeing the new friend but based on the photos, she is not my type. Mayumi definetly does not scrimp on water and soup that is for sure. She dashes to the shower like Usain Bolt after you unload.

[QUOTE=TrolleyDodger;6566870]I've asked about seeing one of Mayumi's friends immediately after they get creampied but did not have any luck. They are all meticulous when it comes to hygiene. They shower after every load that gets pumped into their pussies. Even when I go for 2 rounds, they jump into the shower and wash it out extremely well. The only one that let my cum marinate inside was Lina. She kept fucking me after I unloaded. In hindsight, I could have snuck in another round on a 30 min appointment but IIRC it was my first visit to Mayumi's and I didn't want to risk getting black listed for going over my time / doing 2 pops in a HH session. Seriously, I'd pay one of you guys a finders fee via CashApp if you can tell me where Lina is working now. She was one of the best fucks I ever had.[/QUOTE]Seems like you need to find another monger and get with a provider who is up for BBFS with both. Let him explode first inside her and then you go second.

[QUOTE=DWaits;6567393]Seems like you need to find another monger and get with a provider who is up for BBFS with both. Let him explode first inside her and then you go second.[/QUOTE]Believe me, I have tried. But these are extremely difficult to plan. I've even met a few here in person, but getting schedules / girls to all align has always proven to be difficult. I've had better success on Fetlife though, which has scratched that itch a few times. There's always Marla & Tony if that itch becomes unbearable and there's nothing local going on on Fet. But to really enjoy Marla, I think I would want to add another male since I've already done the MFM thing with them a few times.

[QUOTE=TrolleyDodger;6567981]Believe me, I have tried. But these are extremely difficult to plan. I've even met a few here in person, but getting schedules / girls to all align has always proven to be difficult. I've had better success on Fetlife though, which has scratched that itch a few times. There's always Marla & Tony if that itch becomes unbearable and there's nothing local going on on Fet. But to really enjoy Marla, I think I would want to add another male since I've already done the MFM thing with them a few times.[/QUOTE]Which providers have let you do that? Is it difficult to find good poon on FetLife?

[QUOTE=DWaits;6567393]Seems like you need to find another monger and get with a provider who is up for BBFS with both. Let him explode first inside her and then you go second.[/QUOTE]There's a gal named Yessina / Jessi that does DP in a Colton mp. Latina with big tits. She does that for guys that are into that kind of stuff. She is BBFS if you treat her right, personally I haven't but she's very well known for that.

[QUOTE=TrolleyDodger;6567981]Believe me, I have tried. But these are extremely difficult to plan. I've even met a few here in person, but getting schedules / girls to all align has always proven to be difficult. I've had better success on Fetlife though, which has scratched that itch a few times. There's always Marla & Tony if that itch becomes unbearable and there's nothing local going on on Fet. But to really enjoy Marla, I think I would want to add another male since I've already done the MFM thing with them a few times.[/QUOTE]There is a gang bang thread in the Chicago forum. It is interesting to watch all of the organizing that happens and everything falls apart, so I can see why trying to plan an MFM threesome that includes BBFS is not easy. Add on that are large percentage of the guys on this board are probably married and that increases the risk. Anyway, there is a guy who posted one time in the SGV threads about packing cement if I am remembering the phrase correctly. He said that some of the sex clubs in Germany, guys just line up, CIP, next guy up, CIP, next guy up. Seems like you need a trip to Germany.

Hx creampie favorite Kayla is all growed up. Damn I remember the first time I creampied her in beginning of 2019. She looked so cute and so innocent. Still drop dead gorgeous, now with short platinum blonde hair. Moved to the bay area but was back in the OC last week before the storm. She is a full time 304 now, doing all kinds of stuff including porn, OF, PD, Hx, and who knows what else. She maintains a very expensive luxury lifestyle supported by tech money and what not.

I'm sure many of you have banged this girl BrooklynSweet. Well, she left OC and moved to the bay area as well and hooked up with Kayla. I was just up there and went to a topless poker game and Brooklyn was one of the hostess. Wow she still looks great. I banged Brooklyn again and she even offered doubles with SunkissedKayla. Damn that would be a dream tag team double date, even better if bare LOL. Will probably have to secure a small bank loan first. Maybe will post some action shots someday. But since Kayla and her friends regularly visit SoCal I'm pretty sure she will tag along someday and host incall in OC. I think her current Hx handle is cookiemonster or something corny like that.

I've been dumping my baby serum inside her for almost 2 years now! I will setup for an hour & get nice and cozy with her, she is sensual & vocal. I like it warm up my dinner my dinner a little before I eat it out & after that it's pound town. All holes on table if you do it right & I would be going deep inside her *ussy and cum and then keep going till I come again then take a break and go again! Never ever was cover mentioned LOL. She is a gamer girl and just go nice bolt on upgrades which are a turn off for me. Hope you guys treat her well!

[URL]https://privatedelights.ch/USA/California/Irvine/missambitious[/URL]

[QUOTE=DWaits;6568371]There is a gang bang thread in the Chicago forum. It is interesting to watch all of the organizing that happens and everything falls apart, so I can see why trying to plan an MFM threesome that includes BBFS is not easy. Add on that are large percentage of the guys on this board are probably married and that increases the risk. Anyway, there is a guy who posted one time in the SGV threads about packing cement if I am remembering the phrase correctly. He said that some of the sex clubs in Germany, guys just line up, CIP, next guy up, CIP, next guy up. Seems like you need a trip to Germany.[/QUOTE]The quality is unreal in eastern EU though, my friend went there last month, he said it was like getting a G Wagon for the price of wrangler, when you compare it to what you see on PD or HX these days. He got a Lot of action for $120.

[QUOTE=BigBoy92;6570329]I've been dumping my baby serum inside her for almost 2 years now! I will setup for an hour & get nice and cozy with her, she is sensual & vocal. I like it warm up my dinner my dinner a little before I eat it out & after that it's pound town. All holes on table if you do it right & I would be going deep inside her *ussy and cum and then keep going till I come again then take a break and go again! Never ever was cover mentioned LOL. She is a gamer girl and just go nice bolt on upgrades which are a turn off for me. Hope you guys treat her well!

[URL]https://privatedelights.ch/USA/California/Irvine/missambitious[/URL][/QUOTE]Thanks for the feedback. I've been wanting to see her for so long but I always get cold feet in the end. I'm a long time lurker so would also be my first time with a provider. I'll get stuck thinking about the three or four "definitely" girls and somehow always convince myself not to. But she is at the top of my list.

[QUOTE=BigBoy92;6570329]I've been dumping my baby serum inside her for almost 2 years now! I will setup for an hour & get nice and cozy with her, she is sensual & vocal. I like it warm up my dinner my dinner a little before I eat it out & after that it's pound town. All holes on table if you do it right & I would be going deep inside her *ussy and cum and then keep going till I come again then take a break and go again! Never ever was cover mentioned LOL. She is a gamer girl and just go nice bolt on upgrades which are a turn off for me. Hope you guys treat her well!

[URL]https://privatedelights.ch/USA/California/Irvine/missambitious[/URL][/QUOTE]She was my secret stash bare gal now it's been in the open she is very cautious.

But, I saw her again awhile ago and stuck jr in her bare in doggy and pumped away.

[QUOTE=AceMcNasty;6570322]Hx creampie favorite Kayla is all growed up. Damn I remember the first time I creampied her in beginning of 2019. She looked so cute and so innocent. Still drop dead gorgeous, now with short platinum blonde hair. Moved to the bay area but was back in the OC last week before the storm. She is a full time 304 now, doing all kinds of stuff including porn, OF, PD, Hx, and who knows what else. She maintains a very expensive luxury lifestyle supported by tech money and what not.

I'm sure many of you have banged this girl BrooklynSweet. Well, she left OC and moved to the bay area as well and hooked up with Kayla. I was just up there and went to a topless poker game and Brooklyn was one of the hostess. Wow she still looks great. I banged Brooklyn again and she even offered doubles with SunkissedKayla. Damn that would be a dream tag team double date, even better if bare LOL. Will probably have to secure a small bank loan first. Maybe will post some action shots someday. But since Kayla and her friends regularly visit SoCal I'm pretty sure she will tag along someday and host incall in OC. I think her current Hx handle is cookiemonster or something corny like that.[/QUOTE]Her eyes are so dead. It's amazing to see the deterioration of a hardcore prostitute over 4 or 5 years.

Mayumi is by herself. I wanted to see her but she wouldn't respond. I asked her if she was part of FAC & that's when I was blocked. Oh well, there are still plenty of So Cal seed dumps.

[QUOTE=Taws6;6491323]I can't do overnights, unless I suppose I am traveling for work, however, for me I don't see the benefit.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=SCJohn;6491623]I would only do an over night date with someone I've seen a few times.[/QUOTE]Exactly. I see these overnight posts here all the time. I check the posting history and it's always some green newbie who prob saw a rerun of Pretty Woman and thinks he can be Richard Gere just because he met some Julia Roberts out on Fig LOL. These dudes are the last people in the world who should be contemplating an overnight date.

Have had some all nighters myself. Some were planned and these were my regular ATF sugar babies. Some were from Hx, but most of them started out as multi hour dates, then before you know it, it got pretty late and they end up staying in my hotel. Two examples I can discuss are below. The others are still very active so I can't reveal who they are.

JuicyWetMary did an outcall to my hotel around Christmas in 2018, under her original handle before JWM. She was brand spanking new on Hx. Arrived late and she had a little mishap and really banged up her knees, so we could not do CG or K9. She was really tired and I offered just stay and sleep over and she was glad to accept. I had an early flight in the am and it was a long drive back home for her. Yeah I creampied and DFK her all night long but only in mish.

The other accidental overnight was JenRae. I flew in to ONT airport and she texted me back and wanted to date because she needed cash. I decided to just get a room at the BW on Foothill Blvd because she only lived 5 minutes away. She arrived at 9 pm and after 2 hours of banging, we were both exhausted. She fell asleep and so did I. We woke up around 3 am, had some pizza and talked for a bit, then I started barebacking her again, with non stop oral fun. Then we slept in. I checked out in the late morning then went home, and she went to her day job. Ah to be single and free. I feel sorry for all you married mongers. Actually no LOL.

If you have to ask here how to do an overnight, that is the first sign that you ain't ready. Put a few more notches in your bedpost first or you gone get disappointed, or worse.

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[QUOTE=Yths4;6570765]Thanks for the feedback. I've been wanting to see her for so long but I always get cold feet in the end. I'm a long time lurker so would also be my first time with a provider. I'll get stuck thinking about the three or four "definitely" girls and somehow always convince myself not to. But she is at the top of my list.[/QUOTE]You seem like the perfect candidate for Jensweethearts on hx is she ever came back?