Camille, Jessee and Abby (Same person Waiste of time)
LMFAO. I tried last year too and, I drove 60 miles, got a room took a shower and then the games began. She wanted me to text her a face pic before she came to location, then she wanted to see my drivers license when she got there. As you can imagine that didn't go over very well. Then I heard about a guy out of town that she was blackmailing.
That said, I know there are good reasons for our companions to change their name's and numbers and there are all always incidents where a great companion has a bad day or doesn't click with a client and she may get a bad review but for the good companions a bad review is an exception to the rule.
But, for someone to use several names at the same time, fake pics and lots of bad information is out there sure seems like a good reason to stay away. Then, if the emails that Val put on her blog are real and true (I assume they are) it really shows how unstable, immature and vindictive she really is. There is no excuse!
[QUOTE=Kryp44;1206230]Wow, her elevator definitely doesn't go to the top floor. I tried to book with her once. So glad that didn't happen. Hope the guy she's pissed at doesn't have a pet rabbit.[/QUOTE]
Great guide for new hobbiest and a reminder for the old dogs!
I found this from a hobbiest on another site. Good Info!
Who am I to be passing this kind of information off? Just a guy who likes pussy, but one who is forced to live life in a constant state of motion. I'm one of those guys who travels so much he has frequent flyer accounts with every airline, Platinum membership to all the major car rental companies and enough Hilton Honor points to vacation for free. It's been a while now that I've been on the road, and the challenges are different from hobbying from home.
When I first started hobbying on the road, I was a little daunted by the nature of the problem. As difficult as it can be to become established in your home area, enough to where you're getting quality sessions for your money, imagine trying to do that when you have no home area. You will never get established or build a reputation. You will have no regulars or ATFs that you can go to. Plan Bs don't exist. You don't even know where to go for information and research.
It's been trial and error, but I've improved my game now. When I first started, my average was low. I was getting mediocre sessions, NC / NS'd and paying too much. As with anything, the more you do it, the easier it gets and the better you get at it. For some of you guys, this may seem like common-sense hobbying info. For me, it wasn't that obvious. With that in mind, I'm writing this to help out other knuckle-heads like me.
Tip #1: Get a P411 account and keep it. I let my account lapse recently and I regret it. It's like trying to drive with a paper bag over your head. Sure you can do it, but you might not like the aftermath. This is seriously one of the greatest weapons a hobbyist can have in his arsenal. The people there are professional, reliable and discreet. This is one of the few entities in the hobby world that I believe when they say,"We destroy your information." I have yet to meet a provider off of that site that was a total disappointment and they have good participation all over the country. Once you have a few OKs with them, you're basically set and you can honestly hobby happily all over the nation with nothing else.
Not everyone is willing to give up personal information or can get 2 provider recommendations to get a membership. Some are unwilling to leave any kind of trail of their activities and I understand this, so rock-solid and awesome as it is, P411 isn't always a good option. And sometimes you find yourself in a place where the pickins' are slim. When that's the case.
Tip #2: Find the local review website. No knock on ECCIE, but outside of Texas the information gets a little lean. That's because the popularity of review sites varies based on what region of the country you're in. If you're in Texas, there's some competition, but ECCIE is one of the best resources available. It's not the only one, but I won't mention the other sites as they are in direct competition. In general, I've found that escort reviews tend to be less popular outside of Texas, but they are out there.
The best way to find out what site is more popular where you're traveling to is to ask the providers. The ladies know the best way to advertise in their area, I guarantee it. Frequently, they will link to a review from that site on their P411 profile. I've also asked in-session. A sure bet is if she says something along the lines of,"I hate (website X)." 9 times out of 10, she hates it because she got "bashed" on that site, which usually means the site is more hobbyist-centered.
Here's a list of some sites that have been helpful in my travels. I don't believe any of the following websites to be in heated competition with ECCIE, so I will post them. If the Mod's deem it to be inappropriate, they may obviously edit out the information at their discretion.
California. Humaniplex, ***********z.
SEC Country. Sweetdixiereviews (now defunct, but may come back in one form or another)
Mid-Atlantic. *********, **************.
New York / New England. **************.
That's the extent of my findings so far. As I uncover more intel in other areas of the country / world, I'll be happy to share. If you have any other sites that have helped you, please share with me as well.
Most other sites (another site, tnareviews, eros, southerngfe, girl-directory, etc.) are basically just ad space for escorts. If you're looking for honest information regarding providers, you won't find it there. If you're just looking to drum up some possibilities, they can be useful.
Tip #3: BP and CL are your friends. This is contrary to conventional wisdom, and if you are based out of a hobby-heaven city like Houston, Dallas or Washington D. C, I'd never give this advice. If however you're on the road in a smallish-town that isn't supported by a major review site, these sites can be your best friends. Even if you're not going to see any girls from there, do it because you will get a good feel for the lay of the land, learn the local rate structure and maybe suss out a lead or two. If strip clubs are the spawning grounds for providers, BP and CL are where they cut their teeth. Often the ladies will mention having reviews from the local review site in their ads, so this is a good place to check.
You will start to notice things, like girls that advertise three times a day, never change their pictures, advertise in clusters with other girls, or that annoy you. You will start to get a feel for which ads look legit and which ones look like bullshit. Bounce her pictures off of tineye if she looks good. I've gotten pretty good at separating the wheat from the chafe, but its an acquired skill. Russian porn-site pictures have a certain look to them and you can get good at spotting them after a while. Likewise, you will also notice the ladies that only post every couple of days, have discrete pictures with an authentic look to them, have intelligent language in their ads and in general look worth the time and effort. Unless the place where you're traveling is a very large city, there will only be a few ads per day, so this isn't a daunting task. And even in the large cities, after a day or two, you will recognize girls / ads and skimming the sites gets easy and quick.
By and large, the girls on these sites are not pros. They're providing for short stints and will act accordingly. They will act sketchy and skittish, screen you in weird ways or not at all, hang up on you for strange reasons, have pimps / bfs, will occasionally NC / NS you, try to give you the least amount of service for your money and almost always upsell you. The upside is they are plentiful and will usually take less than advertised if they don't have a pimp. I can't tell you the number of times I've mentioned that I won't pay a certain rate and gotten a counter-offer. This is a tactic that does NOT work with the pro providers. But these amateurs are frequently in this to meet a short-term financial goal and can be talked down. The trick is to stay up-beat and playful, don't get disbelieving or upset. Don't act like you know better than they do. They want to believe they're getting the better of the deal. Let them. And don't limit yourself to the escort / w4m sections. Check the adult jobs, massage therapy, and personals too if you have the time or the area is particularly lean. These ladies aren't always geniuses and will put their information out there in strange places sometimes.
Tip #4: Hit up the strip clubs, on a weekday afternoon if possible. Like I said earlier, these places are the spawning ground for providers. If you're in a mid-sized town or smaller, you will see some of the BP / CL girls there, so it can serve to verify ads. In case its not obvious why you should go early on a weekday, its to avoid the hustle. The weekend night shift is the worst possible time to go. Its the cash-heaviest time of the week and when the girls will make their nut. They have little interest in talking to you or giving you information about other girls. Weekday shifts however are completely different. Things are usually dead, the girls are usually bored, stage fees / tip-out is usually low so the hustle is virtually non-existent. They'll sit and talk and give you the lay of the land. They'll out girls that provide both in and out of the club, especially if they think they're "talking shit" and you're eating it up. (A particularly good tactic in smaller towns) Not every city / state is as liberal as Houston in the activities that occur in a strip club, but it takes a certain type of woman with "loose" moral standards to even start working there. In general, if all else fails, you're looking in the right place. Put in a couple of appearances, throw around some cash, and act like a big, dumb puppy. You'll get offers.
Tip #5: If you're traveling on business, avoid outcalls. This should be obvious, but let me break it down anyway. You're traveling on business. I frequently stay at the same hotels, family of hotels or I'm there for a long time and the manager always knows I'm there on business. I get better treatment that way and discounted rates. They remember me as a result. I'm not going to shit where I eat, and you shouldn't either.
Tip #6: Massage parlors that are open past 5 pm offer happy endings. I have found this to be true in nearly every town I've stayed. Sometimes you have to go back a few times, but if they're open at night. It's alright. Keywords to look for in advertisement: asian, showers available, discreet, reiki. 4 hands, and any mention of draping. That language combined with hours that extend until 9 pm or later are good signs.
Wash that funky ass! It's important in all hobby situations, but especially so in massage parlors. When you lay down on the table, push your meat-and-veg down between your legs so the masseuse can't help but see it. Also keep your feet spread apart as far as the table will allow. Brush her leg with your hands a few times playfully and gauge her reaction. Don't get impatient and flip over and start asking for particular services, that will earn you a quick exit, especially if its your first visit. You aren't the first swinging dick to lay down on her table and want a release. If she feels like she's in control of the session, it will happen.
Its difficult to know what the local tip structure is, but a good rule of thumb is half-again the door rate for L1, twice for L2, 3x or so for L3. (Example: 60 / hr door-rate. 90 / L1, 120 / L2, 180 / L3) Don't worry about this too much, she'll let you know if its alright or not. And if its not and she doesn't say anything, who cares? You're only visiting. Which brings me to.
Tip #7: Just because you're visiting is no reason to get sloppy. I've done it myself and paid the price, fortunately nothing significant. You're in a rental car, leaving in two days, using a phone with an odd area code or a hotel phone, have no family in the area. It has a tendency to make you feel anonymous, bullet-proof, outside the local law. You're not. If anything, you're more vulnerable because you don't know where not to be and who to avoid. Just because you're out-and-about, doesn't mean you can drop your guard. Keep you hobby phone with you. Watch what you say. Don't give out personal information. Empty your pockets before you go inside and take off your watch and rings. NEVER take your wallet in with you. Drive around the block and sweep the parking lot. All the things you'd do if you were covering your ass at home, do on the road.
Tip #8: If you're looking in a phonebook, you've already been fucked. When was the last time you looked in a phonebook for anything? Why would you go back now? When you're somewhere new and you're looking for something, your tendency is going to be to go with what you know, and your hotel room will have a phonebook sitting right underneath your nightstand with an "Escort" and "Entertainment. Adult" section waiting for you. Let it be said that the agencies in these sections are for suckers and amateurs. You're neither. They will want lots of personal information and specific knowledge about the hotel you're staying at, including the front desk's number, your room number, and the name you're registered under. They may even call the front desk. If you don't know why this is bad, refer to tip #5 and tip #7. They will send out a girl but I promise you she will pretend to be ignorant and innocent, and will insist she's only there to share your air. If you find yourself thumbing through a phonebook, do yourself a favor and just set your money on fire. It's about as fruitful and much less dangerous.
This is what I've learned so far after months of doing this thing we do from new places every few weeks. As I learn more and have new insights, I'll be sure to share. I hope it helps those of you who want to get your wicks wet when you're traveling!
