Korean Agency BB

[QUOTE=GoodBoy88;5246865]Look I'll be frank, M brought that on herself and it has nothing to do the pricing the model, it has to do with her poor way of doing business. She's way too hard on new clients, practically unprofessional and sometimes downright mean. Terrible communication to anyone who's not already "a regular". She throws new clients who are clearly well vetted in the trash. She's throws out of town visitors right in the trash. She throws local clients who has long list of references in the trash just because they aren't vetted with a very particular set of bookers. For example, I gave that women a stack of all my most personal info, she had my whole life in digital format, I gave her 12 good HX references and 4 k agency references. All this trying to get to Hana. Apparently none of that shit was good enough for her standards. She tells me I'm going to have to first see 3 girls that I have no interest in from either Tom, Gray or Kate. At the time there was nobody on those rosters that interested me and I didn't feel like blowing $660 on ladies I didn't want, just to have the opportunity to blow another 300 on Hana. I personally know so many members who have a story similar to mine. All that good potential business in the trash, for nothing. It's just basic business 101; no matter what industry you're in, the blood lifeline of your success is NEW clients. If you shit all over the new clients because you only want to deal with the old ones then eventually prepare to fail. In Hana's last days with M, there was so many open time slots and days where you could clearly see Hana not getting business dispute being the best damn K girl in the market. M literally being a cockblocker. Also she's the only one with no established website that has the basic info a new client would need to make an informed decision. Literally unprofessional and always shrouded in the shadows like it's some bigass secret society. It's not fucking Fight Club M.[/QUOTE]I was very grateful that I was able to book Bella and Hana (but mostly Hana) through the HX backdoor.

Got to see Mini as Mina (apologies if I used the wrong name) at KPC a few times in June, 2020 before she left.

I've been going at it for awhile and I still don't have access to M. I won't be terribly upset if she closes up shop, either.

[QUOTE=BastardChorum;5246560]I am throwing it out there that asking for and / or verifying donation first has always been SOP in this hobby, especially outside of kgirls. The safety and security afforded by the kgirl model has mitigated a lot of the horrible outcomes you sometimes come across or hear about. As a matter of fact, it's been so successful to the point that money can be verified after the fact, out of sight and out of mind. Usually and unfortunately, if they verify first then something must of happened to institute this practice.

I just don't want mongers to equate and conflate verifying donation first as a foreshadowing of bad service. It could or could not. But if it does turn out bad, false equivalence and confirmation bias may be incorrectly established and applied. Logically, how exactly does the act of counting money in any way inform you of how a girl is going to perform?[/QUOTE]I have a ton of experience with donation first at the aamps in SGV. Almost all of these experiences, save a few, were horrible and not worth the money. Within minutes they were asking me to come, haha.

The last two k-girls who asked for "donation first please" were Jennifer at SFK and Gahin and KPC.

Jennifer could barely speak English. I couldn't even make out what she was asking for at first.

I gave her the 260 and it was pure crud after that. She was probably the worst k girl experience I have had in the past year. The best part was CIP.

Even the booker said that he knew she was unexperienced. I think she was gone a few weeks after that.

Gahin, on the other hand, was a great experience. At first, I was slightly taken aback that she wanted the donation first. She was pretty gutsy considering her many flaws -- face, chin, teeth, saggy boobs, etc.

All that was quickly forgotten because she spent the next 50-55 minutes earning every dollar of that 280 I gave her. Good / great service.

I ask the booker (very nice BTW) about this and she said that a regular had passed off counterfeit bills to one of her girls just the day before.

These two are the total opposite of one my visits with Luna at SA, who once got the money I left her on her nightstand and threw it like a brat haha. She's very sassy --I don't care for her eye rolls though!

[QUOTE=BastardChorum;5246540]If the point of the trick is to invoke pity and see her more often, then I rather pity the monger that falls for it. Want me to come more often (no pun intended)? Then you need to show and prove it through service. This pricematching shenanigans is deja vu all over again like in the past with Rebecca and Chloe. Hana starts it all off at the $300 mark, then others push up or start at that price. Jealously, envy, and face is damn ingrained in Korean culture and it's a ***** to be caught in the crossfire. Each provider has a right to charge whatever they want and think they can command. However, mongers will ultimately determine if that gambit succeeds or not.[/QUOTE]Based on my limited experience, the only girl truly worth 300 is Hana. Allie, Pepsi, Ara (and even Viki) can charge 300 right now and that would be fair, to. But I'd choose to give Hana my 300 over the rest nine times out of ten.

I refuse to visit the upcharge girls, even if it's just 20 or 40 over 300. Dahee was great at 300, but factor in the drive from LA to the OC and the increase to 340 for MSOG CIP -- I'll pass.

Unfortunately, I don't see prices coming down anytime soon.

[QUOTE=BastardChorum;5246610]With SFK.

Photos: It's her.

Looks: A bit of an exotic face but attractive, nostrils are abnormally angled and sharp (surgery probably), has a constant look as if she's squinting at you with a look of doubt, 5'2", man made C's (a bit on the firm side), little ass but looks decent in K9 surprisingly, shaven pussy. Slender figure with soft curves. Pale skin tone, no tattoos, small birthmark under right breast.

English: A little bit.

Attitude: Flippant and aloof.

Service: Overall below average. Limited LFK, no DFK. She moves on to different position at her discretion and insistence. BBBJ was simple and short. K9 was pretty good as her ass become quite shapely in this position. Mish was difficult in particular because she kept her legs stiff preventing deep penetration. As soon as I CIP, she motioned me to get off and went to clean herself. BBFSCIP.

Expense: $300.

Repeat: For the price and performance, definitely a no. Her service needs an overhaul along with that attitude.[/QUOTE]Thank you for the review. SFK has had a heck of time replacing Allie. I am glad I got to see her once before before she bailed in January (not exactly sure), even if she spent 10 minutes or so during that final session vaping, haha.

[QUOTE=AlexisDavis;5246543]It was with Hana, who is my ATF and the only girl I would even think to go BB with. To be clear, I have zero reason to believe Hana has anything, the pep is just me trying to eliminate the albeit low risk because at the end of the day she is extremely popular. I was just saying that the BB game is not for everyone. I've seen Hana many many times and always covered because I just like to play it safe.

No regrets though, it was amazing and I wouldn't have tried it if it was with anyone else. I imagine if Hana had something everyone would know within minutes, haha.[/QUOTE]You have a lot of willpower to stay covered with Hana! I can barely keep my clothes on the moment I walk in her apartment.

She is definitely incredible. I haven't seen her as much as you (just my guess), but I've had to find / create nitpicky things to stay away.

Doing the pep was a smart thing, considering that she is high volume and pretty much anything goes.

[QUOTE=Vulcan1009;5246705]For all you have visited Ivy, what do you think about her comparing to Allie?

They seem like the same body type or age.

Thanks.[/QUOTE]Allie is better in everyday. Period.

[QUOTE=RocketManP;5246563]Mixed reviews are an understatement.

Nana averages out to a 6.4 performance on TER, and that's even with your three high scoring reviews of her, out of 35 total reviews![/QUOTE]I think if you would post about your own experience with her it would provide more value. Not sure why you feel it so important to pontificate on this one but it's an open forum and you certainly have the right to post, or the right to remain silent.

First hand experience is always more useful than second hand reports or recaps from the public scoreboard.

[QUOTE=CrunchEazy;5246882]LOL she is hard to get in with but she has no shortage of clients. I don't think this has anything to do with her not having business. I think the girls are going to higher paying agencies sadly. $350 with no upcharge for BBFS might be the best new model for M.[/QUOTE]I disagree, she's very hidden and difficult to book with. I don't believe for a moment she had so much business hand over fist. Half of her clients are probably sitting in this very thread and I think you are greatly overestimating how much business she had. I know for a fact Hana was wide open on several of the days leading up to her leaving and that's nuts. If Hana was with a different booker like Grey at her current rate she would be booked solid til next month.

[QUOTE=GoodBoy88;5246865]Look I'll be frank, M brought that on herself and it has nothing to do the pricing the model, it has to do with her poor way of doing business. She's way too hard on new clients, practically unprofessional and sometimes downright mean. Terrible communication to anyone who's not already "a regular". She throws new clients who are clearly well vetted in the trash. She's throws out of town visitors right in the trash. She throws local clients who has long list of references in the trash just because they aren't vetted with a very particular set of bookers. For example, I gave that women a stack of all my most personal info, she had my whole life in digital format, I gave her 12 good HX references and 4 k agency references. All this trying to get to Hana. Apparently none of that shit was good enough for her standards. She tells me I'm going to have to first see 3 girls that I have no interest in from either Tom, Gray or Kate. At the time there was nobody on those rosters that interested me and I didn't feel like blowing $660 on ladies I didn't want, just to have the opportunity to blow another 300 on Hana. I personally know so many members who have a story similar to mine. All that good potential business in the trash, for nothing. It's just basic business 101; no matter what industry you're in, the blood lifeline of your success is NEW clients. If you shit all over the new clients because you only want to deal with the old ones then eventually prepare to fail. In Hana's last days with M, there was so many open time slots and days where you could clearly see Hana not getting business dispute being the best damn K girl in the market. M literally being a cockblocker. Also she's the only one with no established website that has the basic info a new client would need to make an informed decision. Literally unprofessional and always shrouded in the shadows like it's some bigass secret society. It's not fucking Fight Club M.[/QUOTE]Haha the M worshippers here think they have so much business but fact of the matter is their girls (aside from Hana) have so much open slots that nobody wants to see. It is kinda obvious top tier girls don't even want to work at her agency but M worshippers believe girls will want to work at M's than going a few blocks away and could charge much more for the same work LOL. Bookers to me is nothing more than a phone number in the grand scheme of things if girls don't want to work for you then you are basically done.

[QUOTE=GoodBoy88;5247140]I disagree, she's very hidden and difficult to book with. I don't believe for a moment she had so much business hand over fist. Half of her clients are probably sitting in this very thread and I think you are greatly overestimating how much business she had. I know for a fact Hana was wide open on several of the days leading up to her leaving and that's nuts. If Hana was with a different booker like Grey at her current rate she would be booked solid til next month.[/QUOTE]What evidence are there that suggests they are getting so much business? I could literally book any of their current line-up at ease with any slot I want. Maybe Hana getting fully booked for days gave away the misconception?

[QUOTE=MauiDiver;5247087]I think if you would post about your own experience with her it would provide more value. Not sure why you feel it so important to pontificate on this one but it's an open forum and you certainly have the right to post, or the right to remain silent.

First hand experience is always more useful than second hand reports or recaps from the public scoreboard.[/QUOTE]Your post was about her getting mixed reviews, and I commented on..wait for it...her reviews being more bad than "mixed".

[QUOTE=IAmGib1;5246833]The new KWapvibe Nana? Don't know about. However the real Nana is the Energizer bunny Nana and she spoils most and gets taken for granted. She is built like a gymnast. Young, tight, compact with curves. If she slowed her roll rather than her usual frenetic pace everyone would be happy. Nevertheless, she is still an E-Ticket ride at Disneyland![/QUOTE]Sorry, was talking about "Alyssa". She goes by Nana in Nor Cal. Not to be confused with Nana the Pomeranian doge owned by Emma.

[QUOTE=GoodBoy88;5247140]I disagree, she's very hidden and difficult to book with. I don't believe for a moment she had so much business hand over fist. Half of her clients are probably sitting in this very thread and I think you are greatly overestimating how much business she had. I know for a fact Hana was wide open on several of the days leading up to her leaving and that's nuts. If Hana was with a different booker like Grey at her current rate she would be booked solid til next month.[/QUOTE]No. You are underestimating the strength of their client list. Many of their customers are not on forums. Sure they will travel to see other girls but they are guys who are consistent mongers who see girls a few times a week. If a new very good girl shows up at M she will be booked consistently. Hana was made popular because she was at M first and 80% of her regulars are M customers. Guys who only see her I'm sure. M regulars have the power to make the girl a star or confirm she is a dud. Not many girls can leave M and flourish elsewhere. M is well known and many Bay Area girls and legends have been through there.

Don't be so angry man. Just see another org. No big deal. Also I've heard from girls at Gray. They only get 3-4 per day and one of you suckers to pay the 420. Remember half their list passed through M.

[QUOTE=RocketManP;5247158]Your post was about her getting mixed reviews, and I commented on..wait for it...her reviews being more bad than "mixed".[/QUOTE]I was hoping you'd post a mini from your visit, to provide first hand information on what you think of her.

[QUOTE=CrunchEazy;5246882]LOL she is hard to get in with but she has no shortage of clients. I don't think this has anything to do with her not having business. I think the girls are going to higher paying agencies sadly. $350 with no upcharge for BBFS might be the best new model for M.[/QUOTE]I have asked some why they will not come back. They said money. They can make the same money with 2-3 mongers per day. If they went upcharge you would see them all return likely. M should hold on through the ride. When the travel restrictions ease it will be a new day. We will likely see new orgs develop and sticking to the 280/300 price model. Those up charge recycled girls better make their money now, those days will come to an end.

I actually heard rumors of another popular Bay Area org looking at options down here. They tend to stick to non upcharge model. Many of the girls who came to M last year came from Bay Area orgs. Jade (BK Evie), Mini (KGA Love/ BK Mini) Karen (KGA Diamond), Hazel (GFE Alicia), Dior (BK Aini/LSC Daisy), Allie (GSC Nicole), Kendall and Dora doubles (LSC) and many more.