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[QUOTE=LukeWarmWater3;5896799]There were two girls up that way. Found them on FB. They were friends. Never saw both together not even sure they did that. One I think was Ava. Sadly I heard she passed. OD I believe the other girl just vanished. Anyone else remember those two?[/QUOTE]Hey fellas,
Long time lurker here and l think this is my first post. You are talking about Stacy Lynn. Ava and Stacy were friends and did do doubles together, though I never got a chance to do that. Ava OD'd in like 2015 ish. Incredibly sad because she was a sweetheart. Stacy stopped posting in around 2017, but I was seeing her UTR right up until this fucking pandemic started. I've lost contact with her since, which really really sucks because she is tied for my ATF.
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Veronica LoVe correction
I said her rate as $$.5, that was a typo. Her rate is $$ 5.
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[QUOTE=TailGunner1;5896816]Do you remember anything more about them? I know it's hard to recall a lot as the years pass but if they were working in that area 3-10 years ago chances are I saw one or both. That area was my backyard so I would have jumped on anything decent so I didn't have to travel.[/QUOTE]I remember both well and saw them both, though never together when they definitely did doubles for awhile. Their stage names were Ava Lovarti and Stacy Lynn. Only saw Ava once just months before she died. Never a sign to me that she was addicted. Bright, intelligent girl. Totally lucid.
Then started to see Stacy fairly regularly, first at her house, then at one of those no-tells you guys were talking about. Never any signs of drugs that I could see, although she had her issues in the past for sure. Stopped for awhile during COVID and then when I tried to contact her again, never got any responses. Her Facebook page says she's married now. Her fiance had been in prison (for fraud, not drugs) when I was seeing her. So hopefully she's living happily ever after.
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[QUOTE=DramUSA;5896959]I remember both well and saw them both, though never together when they definitely did doubles for awhile. Their stage names were Ava Lovarti and Stacy Lynn. Only saw Ava once just months before she died. Never a sign to me that she was addicted. Bright, intelligent girl. Totally lucid.
Then started to see Stacy fairly regularly, first at her house, then at one of those no-tells you guys were talking about. Never any signs of drugs that I could see, although she had her issues in the past for sure. Stopped for awhile during COVID and then when I tried to contact her again, never got any responses. Her Facebook page says she's married now. Her fiance had been in prison (for fraud, not drugs) when I was seeing her. So hopefully she's living happily ever after.[/QUOTE]Was Stacy fairly young and pretty much down for anything? How old was Ava? The Stacy I knew lived in that area. The Ava I knew worked in South Amboy and above.
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[QUOTE=TailGunner1;5896989]Was Stacy fairly young and pretty much down for anything? How old was Ava? The Stacy I knew lived in that area. The Ava I knew worked in South Amboy and above.[/QUOTE]Yes (I think) to all of the above for Stacy, although I'm not an "anything" guy, so can't say for sure. Ava was approximately the same age as Stacy, although she looked a little older.
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[QUOTE=DramUSA;5896959]I remember both well and saw them both, though never together when they definitely did doubles for awhile. Their stage names were Ava Lovarti and Stacy Lynn. Only saw Ava once just months before she died. Never a sign to me that she was addicted. Bright, intelligent girl. Totally lucid.
Then started to see Stacy fairly regularly, first at her house, then at one of those no-tells you guys were talking about. Never any signs of drugs that I could see, although she had her issues in the past for sure. Stopped for awhile during COVID and then when I tried to contact her again, never got any responses. Her Facebook page says she's married now. Her fiance had been in prison (for fraud, not drugs) when I was seeing her. So hopefully she's living happily ever after.[/QUOTE]Yup that's them. Stacy I thought lived at one of those places. Ava would need to be picked up and dropped back off after playtime. ! I never saw evidence of use either at that time. Both were good times.
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[QUOTE=PMan65;5896889]I said her rate as $$.5, that was a typo. Her rate is $$ 5.[/QUOTE]Let me try again.
$ $ $.5.
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[QUOTE=LukeWarmWater3;5897095]Yup that's them. Stacy I thought lived at one of those places. Ava would need to be picked up and dropped back off after playtime. ! I never saw evidence of use either at that time. Both were good times.[/QUOTE]K I am pretty sure that is the Stacy I saw. Probably saw her 4 or 5 times. One of the few girls I saw no evidence of being a user. Wasn't super hot but was pretty decent, was great at sex and was really chill.
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[QUOTE=DramUSA;5897044]Yes (I think) to all of the above for Stacy, although I'm not an "anything" guy, so can't say for sure. Ava was approximately the same age as Stacy, although she looked a little older.[/QUOTE]By "anything" I meant pretty much BBFS and doing basically any position I wanted with skill and no complaints.
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[QUOTE=PMan65;5896889]I said her rate as $$.5, that was a typo. Her rate is $$ 5.[/QUOTE]I read both as 250/ hr. That correct?
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[QUOTE=DramUSA;5896959]I remember both well and saw them both, though never together when they definitely did doubles for awhile. Their stage names were Ava Lovarti and Stacy Lynn. Only saw Ava once just months before she died. Never a sign to me that she was addicted. Bright, intelligent girl. Totally lucid.
Then started to see Stacy fairly regularly, first at her house, then at one of those no-tells you guys were talking about. Never any signs of drugs that I could see, although she had her issues in the past for sure. Stopped for awhile during COVID and then when I tried to contact her again, never got any responses. Her Facebook page says she's married now. Her fiance had been in prison (for fraud, not drugs) when I was seeing her. So hopefully she's living happily ever after.[/QUOTE]When it comes to these girls and drug use I believe it is 100% for STG and the old backpage girls who post regularly. When you get to those 800 hr plus girls staying at top hotels on the high end sites the drug use % goes down I am sure. When we see no signs of use I think it is more of them not being totally enveloped into the addiction yet and / or are smart enough to hide it.
Here is my logic. Just look how they live. These girls tend to live out of motels or dumpy apartments in shit neighborhoods. If they don't they are living with an old lonely monger in a good neighborhood who was stupid enough to let them live in his house and drain his retirement savings. Very few have cars and the ones that do usually drive wrecks. They see literally anybody including your Uncle Cletus who is 65 yrs old, weighs 400 lbs and hasn't taken a shower since the 1980's. Most have kids who do not live with them and were likely taken away by the state. They are all familiar with the NJ state agency known as dyfs. Plus they are all literally always broke. This is when we follow the money and find out the math just can't add up if the girl is not a user. Let's use a very conservative estimate of a girl doing 3 $200 calls a day 5 days a week. I am sure they are working a lot more than that but these lower end numbers still make my case. That is $600/ day, $3,000/ week, $12,000/ month tax free. That is more than 99% of us take home and most of us own homes and drive decent cars. They aren't doing this to pay off their student loans or save for a house. With the kind of money they make they should all own homes in Holmdel driving brand new cars if they didn't piss it away on their addiction.
I hope things are going well for Stacy. She is good people and if she has turned her life around and can keep it that way that is a great thing. If she is not seeing people anymore than I believe she did go straight. Her mind is out of the foggy haze and she would not even think of sleeping with Uncle Cletus now no matter how much he payed.
On a side note it is a great situation if you have any UTRs who did get clean and quit posting but still see some of their old favorite regulars, usually for less than what they charged while working.
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[QUOTE=TailGunner1;5897277]I read both as 250/ hr. That correct?[/QUOTE]A $ was dropped 350/ hr.
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[QUOTE=TailGunner1;5897318]When it comes to these girls and drug use I believe it is 100% for STG and the old backpage girls who post regularly. When you get to those 800 hr plus girls staying at top hotels on the high end sites the drug use % goes down I am sure. When we see no signs of use I think it is more of them not being totally enveloped into the addiction yet and / or are smart enough to hide it.
Here is my logic. Just look how they live. These girls tend to live out of motels or dumpy apartments in shit neighborhoods. If they don't they are living with an old lonely monger in a good neighborhood who was stupid enough to let them live in his house and drain his retirement savings. Very few have cars and the ones that do usually drive wrecks. They see literally anybody including your Uncle Cletus who is 65 yrs old, weighs 400 lbs and hasn't taken a shower since the 1980's. Most have kids who do not live with them and were likely taken away by the state. They are all familiar with the NJ state agency known as dyfs. Plus they are all literally always broke. This is when we follow the money and find out the math just can't add up if the girl is not a user. Let's use a very conservative estimate of a girl doing 3 $200 calls a day 5 days a week. I am sure they are working a lot more than that but these lower end numbers still make my case. That is $600/ day, $3,000/ week, $12,000/ month tax free. That is more than 99% of us take home and most of us own homes and drive decent cars. They aren't doing this to pay off their student loans or save for a house. With the kind of money they make they should all own homes in Holmdel driving brand new cars if they didn't piss it away on their addiction.
I hope things are going well for Stacy. She is good people and if she has turned her life around and can keep it that way that is a great thing. If she is not seeing people anymore than I believe she did go straight. Her mind is out of the foggy haze and she would not even think of sleeping with Uncle Cletus now no matter how much he payed.
On a side note it is a great situation if you have any UTRs who did get clean and quit posting but still see some of their old favorite regulars, usually for less than what they charged while working.[/QUOTE]I'd say your pretty much on the marks. Sadly those demons get hold and some can't shake them off. If Stacy I'd put of this life snd into a clearer path that's great! I hate to consider I'm contributing to their using!
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[QUOTE=LukeWarmWater3;5897496]I'd say your pretty much on the marks. Sadly those demons get hold and some can't shake them off. If Stacy I'd put of this life snd into a clearer path that's great! I hate to consider I'm contributing to their using![/QUOTE]We do contribute to their addictions. But the way I see it is that if we didn't see them they would be working a street corner making $20 a pop. They would certainly be robbing people and businesses left and right which is a much more serious offense under the law. If we stopped seeing them they wouldn't change their lives at all. They would just find another way to hustle money. Sadly out of all the girls I have seen only one mentioned she hated the road she was on and knew she was getting deeper into it every day. Others I talked to enjoy their lifestyle and had no desire to quit. They looked to a regular 9-5 life with a real job and a family the same way we look at their lifestyle. So while I can feel a little for their plight I see them as adults who picked their path of their own free will and have little, if any, desire to fix what to them is not broken. They all have friends and family who tried to help them so basically I give it little thought. Now if we are talking about sex trafficked girls that is a whole other story none of us should ever partake in as that is being done under threat and against their will.
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Remember her also
[QUOTE=TailGunner1;5896989]Was Stacy fairly young and pretty much down for anything? How old was Ava? The Stacy I knew lived in that area. The Ava I knew worked in South Amboy and above.[/QUOTE]
Stacy was a sweetheart, short a bit chubby cutie, open to everything, I was a regular we had a nice thing going, enjoyed each others company.
Used to meet at the Gallery motel in S. Amboy and sometimes at the Knights, was sad when she told me was retiring cause she was marrying her BF.
I never noticed any indications of drugs, I don't think she even smoked.
Funny incident, on one meetup arrived at motel about 10 mins early, pulled into a parking spot next to a pickup, texted her that I was there replied give her 5 mins.
Then door opened she and her BF came out carrying bags to the pickup, they saw me had a laugh I helped them.
He was cool about it.