The question might have been asked before, but I didn't catch the answer. Once you fill up the card at Sun, does the freebie just cover the door or is it all inclusive.
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The question might have been asked before, but I didn't catch the answer. Once you fill up the card at Sun, does the freebie just cover the door or is it all inclusive.
[QUOTE=Torchkit]Every AMP in Warren accepts credit cards -- for all services. They also tack on 5% to get back what the card carrier charges the AMP for the credit card service.[/QUOTE]
Wow. Things have changed.
[QUOTE=Poontuner]And it bounced, that's how he got caught going there.[/QUOTE]
That's actually not true, although it has been reported. Apparently when the place got raided, the check had not yet been cashed and the police found the check at the parlor.
[QUOTE=Drew469]The question might have been asked before, but I didn't catch the answer. Once you fill up the card at Sun, does the freebie just cover the door or is it all inclusive.[/QUOtE]
Are doing this now which I feels a good thing, to answer tho it only is for the front door money. Everything else is your discretion of course.
You are right about this i too have friends that have worked and own shops, some waste the money others do not, some send it home some gamble it away, sometimes if caught the cry wolf hoping for a deal to stay here, and not get sent back to homeland.
[QUOTE=Bookmaker]This is a business. My info is several years old but I doubt that things have changed. I spent a good bit of time with someone who worked the rooms for several years and then bought her own AMP. After a year running it herself she bought another one and had someone else run it for her.
The mamsons hire the girls and usually the girls get the tip, the house gets the door fee. To the best of my knowledge, the door fee is not split with the girls and the tip is not shared with the mamson.
The house is open 15 or more hours per day with two or three girls working. So the house should be able to earn as much as $2000 per day. We all see the places busy and empty. So a typical house earns $10000 to $20000 per month. You can buy the business (if you have the right connections) for $100, 000 to $200, 000 and earn that back in the first year. Many times the owner is the mamson. (If the city does not shut down the business it can be sold for more or less than you bought it for depending on how the business improves or falls off while you own it.) Also, it is not unusual for an owner to have more than one house and pay mamsons to run the extra houses for them.
The girls earn $100 or more per tiping customer. It is fairly easy for a good girl to earn $1000 or more per day. They are NOT coerced. This is a business oportunity for them and the smart ones take advantage of it. If you go to one of their homes (apts) you will find Channel bags, Rolex watches, deigner dresses, whatever. They have enough money to live well. But just like anyone else with $100, 000 to $300, 000 per year, some of them will waste most of it, others will not.
I was aware of girls that owned apartment complexes in Korea, bought land there, and invested there in other ways. They flew back to Korea several times a year so that they could move the cash easily. If they get caught and charged here in the USA they will be deported back to Korea (or leave while on bail and not worry about comming back). There they will live well if they have invested right and had enough time before getting caught. If they do not get caught, so much the better.
Now, there may be some that owe somebody money for helping to get them here. But, at $20, 000 to $30, 000 per month, these girls can payoff that type of fee quickly. To the girls that I knew, this was a profession. They planned to do this for long enough to build up enough money to "retire" on and then they were out. I have seen girls waste enough that they never had that "retirement" nest egg. But I have also seen the ones that had enough to quit.
Another thought. Watch the boards. You will see the girls come and go for various reasons. They are on vacation, or they took a week off, or whatever. Then after a week or two they return. They do this with the approval of the mamson. If they walk out. She will find another girl to fill the spot and then the quiter will have to find another AMP if she wants to keep working. There, she will have to build up a new group of clients. But they are free to walk out any time they want.[/QUOTE]
Okay guys got great info on two girls at sun. I was able to get numbers and took each out different times. Hit me off line for more details and info.
Since this is supposed to be the reports board I have not seen a review since 1 23 10 any new reviews to share?. Plan on making a run to cure my Asian Fever soon. I watch all major TV stations and read the Akron Canton Cleveland Massillon and you S A Today plus Geraldo Rivera and Nancy Grace and have not seen the hammer drop yet. I have noticed Fantacy Fugi Moon Night and Ocean all advertising on see L. Are these 4 spas all connected or just coincidence? I am sure they read this board even though no one ever reports any visits to Fantacy Moon Night or Ocean. Last but not least for all newbies and lurkers on this board the standard tip is $ nothing more. If you think giving more will get you more you are doing nothing more than screwing yourself and all the guys who did the leg work of taking the bad before finding the good and reporting their visits here.
Happy Mongering.
I haven't posted for a while, because I have not had anything new to report. Also, some of the posters here seemed like they may be a little less that discreet with the info when they visited the Spas.
I feel I should post about Yung at Fugi. There were some positive posts a few weeks back about her great service. A couple regular posters here suggested to me via PM that I give her a try. The first session was pretty interesting, lots of table shower time, and a pretty long session. We went about 20 minutes overtime and she offered a second pop, but unfortunately I was unprepared and declined. Second session was even better, first pop in the shower, then off to the table for multi position FS and a second pop on the table that was BBBJTC. Again about 30 minutes overtime. She was always kinda bossy, maybe a little too much in control, but made up for it with extra time and 2 pops seemed to be the norm.
Mind you, we always seemed to get along. Always polite and cordial, she often asked if she was better than the others. When she was taking time off at the beginning of January, she told me twice when she would be back to work. As though she wanted my business.
Then, on the third visit, she was more routine, practically pushy. Bragged and (or complained) about being busy. One pop in the shower, which I let go quick, cause I was counting on some BJ and FS on the massage table. We leave the shower, are on the table, I am peeling off the robe, checking out the goods and The doorbell rings. In walks the Mamasan. Lots of Korean was spoken, then she tells me she has to go do another guy, to keep him from going to Tokyo Spa. She asks if her sister, the MAMASAN can finish the session. Listen guys, I am a good sport, I like older women, and I figure WTF. I'll do the Mamasan. It might be fun and I'll maybe score some special treatment in the future. (I told Lisa at 4S to go take care of other customers a couple of times and got REALLY good sessions for waiting). Yung says her sister is really good and off she goes. To the point... I got a great back rub, then she told me to get dressed and out she ran. I never got FS or a BJ from either during that session. I feel I was ripped off. This was a couple of weeks ago. I received a PM from one of the posters who had suggested her, He also has received poor service on a second or third visit (although not as bad as mine ).
Any other similar stories? This forum is our chance to keep each other from being ripped off. I apologize for not reporting earlier. I think I was embarrassed.
[QUOTE=Squiggy]Then, on the third visit, she was more routine, practically pushy. Bragged and (or complained) about being busy. One pop in the shower, which I let go quick, cause I was counting on some BJ and FS on the massage table. We leave the shower, are on the table, I am peeling off the robe, checking out the goods and The doorbell rings. In walks the Mamasan. Lots of Korean was spoken, then she tells me she has to go do another guy, to keep him from going to Tokyo Spa. She asks if her sister, the MAMASAN can finish the session. Listen guys, I am a good sport, I like older women, and I figure WTF. I'll do the Mamasan. It might be fun and I'll maybe score some special treatment in the future. (I told Lisa at 4S to go take care of other customers a couple of times and got REALLY good sessions for waiting). Yung says her sister is really good and off she goes. To the point... I got a great back rub, then she told me to get dressed and out she ran. I never got FS or a BJ from either during that session. I feel I was ripped off. This was a couple of weeks ago. I received a PM from one of the posters who had suggested her, He also has received poor service on a second or third visit (although not as bad as mine ).
Any other similar stories? This forum is our chance to keep each other from being ripped off. I apologize for not reporting earlier. I think I was embarrassed.[/QUOTE]Thanks for posting that. When I make my next trip up I was fighting to decide whether to try to hit Sun again or stick to building my repeat status at Fuji, but this kind of helps with the decision.
[QUOTE=Squiggy]I haven't posted for a while, because I have not had anything new to report. Also, some of the posters here seemed like they may be a little less that discreet with the info when they visited the Spas.
I feel I should post about Yung at Fugi. There were some positive posts a few weeks back about her great service. A couple regular posters here suggested to me via PM that I give her a try. The first session was pretty interesting, lots of table shower time, and a pretty long session. We went about 20 minutes overtime and she offered a second pop, but unfortunately I was unprepared and declined. Second session was even better, first pop in the shower, then off to the table for multi position FS and a second pop on the table that was BBBJTC. Again about 30 minutes overtime. She was always kinda bossy, maybe a little too much in control, but made up for it with extra time and 2 pops seemed to be the norm.
Mind you, we always seemed to get along. Always polite and cordial, she often asked if she was better than the others. When she was taking time off at the beginning of January, she told me twice when she would be back to work. As though she wanted my business.
Then, on the third visit, she was more routine, practically pushy. Bragged and (or complained) about being busy. One pop in the shower, which I let go quick, cause I was counting on some BJ and FS on the massage table. We leave the shower, are on the table, I am peeling off the robe, checking out the goods and The doorbell rings. In walks the Mamasan. Lots of Korean was spoken, then she tells me she has to go do another guy, to keep him from going to Tokyo Spa. She asks if her sister, the MAMASAN can finish the session. Listen guys, I am a good sport, I like older women, and I figure WTF. I'll do the Mamasan. It might be fun and I'll maybe score some special treatment in the future. (I told Lisa at 4S to go take care of other customers a couple of times and got REALLY good sessions for waiting). Yung says her sister is really good and off she goes. To the point... I got a great back rub, then she told me to get dressed and out she ran. I never got FS or a BJ from either during that session. I feel I was ripped off. This was a couple of weeks ago. I received a PM from one of the posters who had suggested her, He also has received poor service on a second or third visit (although not as bad as mine ).
Any other similar stories? This forum is our chance to keep each other from being ripped off. I apologize for not reporting earlier. I think I was embarrassed.[/QUOTE]I second about Yung, thats why I live at Sun now.
I visited a week or two ago. Yung was the acting mamasan at the time. She declined my invitation to offer service, but presented two "New Girls" Mimi and Happy. Chose Happy, and was not nearly as happy as I might have been with Yung. Mechanical, reserved, just went through the motions. In fact, while doing the back of my legs, she spent the time looking in the mirror and fixing her hair. Overall, this experience just like the average at every other place. Maybe it is time to venture back to Tokyo to see if they have new talent in the league of Hannah or Yung.
I agree w/ the last couple posts. I was a regular w/ Sue (Yung) at Tokyo last year. Then she went to Fuji and everything changed. Been there 4 or 5 times and was able to see her once. Always being pushed off to the other girls who are average at best. Lately at Sun there has been far superior service and attitude..and quality. Yulie is amazing. Bebe is awesome. In the past Yung was up there w/ Lisa at 4s. Saw Lisa last week and now she blows Yung away (sorry for the pun)in attitude and performance. Lisa is a true GFE and Yung is like the wife. I am officially now a 4s and Sun customer. Although I would go back to Tokyo w/ if I heard a good review.
Be safe,
HD
Thanks a lot guys as I set here with a filled up card to Fugi . 4 Fantastic massages from Yung and now it seems all is going downhill. Anyone with a filled up card with a 5 th visit report? Is this the classic all good things must come to an end?
Happy Mongering
[QUOTE=Squiggy]Any other similar stories? This forum is our chance to keep each other from being ripped off. I apologize for not reporting earlier. I think I was embarrassed.[/QUOTE]
Well it seems like they're starting some monkey business at the Fuji. I too had an unusual experience the last time there. It was about 2:30 in the afternoon and I asked for Yung. The mamasan spoke to her in Korean and then said she has to leave at 4:00 for an outside appointment but she could see me now. Yung sure took her time in the shower, longer than usual. When we got back in the room and I was lying on the table the mamasan came in and spoke again to her again in Korean. Then all of a sudden the mamasan said to me she has to leave soon and you only have fifteen minutes. So Yung jumped into a 69 and did a bbbjtc with swallow before I even knew what hit me. As I was getting dressed, Yung said they had to go to see a lawyer and sign papers for the license for the spa and she gave me $20 of my money back. As I was getting in my car around 3:30 they were both getting into a mini van next to me so It didn't appear to be a made up story. I just don't like to be rushed at the last minute even though I asked when I got there if I should come back later.
[QUOTE=Squiggy]I got a great back rub, then she told me to get dressed and out she ran. I never got FS or a BJ from either during that session. I feel I was ripped off.[/QUOTE]Had you already given the tip, or was everything covered by the house fee?