Let's Relax QualiyDecline?
I stopped by LR last night and saw a provider. I forget her name but she wasn't worth remembering anyways. Honestly the whole experience was lacking and a complete waste of time and money. The girl was not even attractive. I paid for a TS but never received. The session felt rushed. I wish the Milk were still up and running. Now I'll have to try Tokyo or Gardina today and see if they are any better. After experience with LR it's hard to say if I'd be back. In their one defense I did see two other girls who stopped by and they were cute.
Quite the "glowie" questions?
[QUOTE=RamseySt;6947922]Can you give more details on this apartment girl setup? Is there an apartment where this occurs in the city?[/QUOTE]If the local providers move to an apartment style business model, there will be screening required for "entry". Be prepared to be screened, if you don't already have references from other cities around the country. This will include things like your LinkedIn profile, a picture of your drivers license, a picture of a business card, a "selfie", your P411 account, your TER profile / username, a hotel room key, or any other items that the booker wants to see.
If you have references from other cities, they will verify your status and maybe history. Multiple cities will be best, but their verification network and processes are pretty well established (coast to coast).
Once you make it through the screening, you can work with the booker to coordinate time and provider. Don't expect the popular girls to be available, at your request. They might give you alternate times, or alternate provider options. If/when that is complete, the booker will give you an address about an hour or so before the appointment. Usually a mid-range apartment complex. Not fancy enough to have a front gate with security, but nice enough to keep the vagrants out. The apartment complexes near entertainment / shopping centers are popular, due to the high volume of foot traffic.
If / when this change happens, don't expect table showers. The prices will likely increase, to compensate for the volume decrease (fewer providers in a single location). The apartment model may still have 30 minute options, but the hour long session (0:45 minutes, in reality) will be the primary offering. A 30 minute session will actually get you about 20 minutes, given their turnaround time. They will *not* have a provision for "walk ins".
On point list / explanation
Well said Jeff. I have been to the apartments in Vegas, LA and Chicago and everything Jeff says is spot on. If I had anything to add, the quality of the girls overall is definitely better than AMPs. Many offer a selection of Korean, Chinese, Pilipino etc girls. The slightly higher price is definitely worth it in getting your full time, multi-pops, special requests. Very little bait and switch. The bookers are good about feedback and anyone who doesn't perform as expected doesn't stay long. In the cities with the apartments, AMPs still exist, but are more popular for quick visits, those wanting a massage as part of the experience and don't mind the potential traffic coming and going.
I would read through the reports from the cities listed above on this site to get a better feel.
Hopefully, this model will appear in the area.
[QUOTE=Jeff1976;6948383]That could be either good or bad news. The screening can be a pain in the ass, and there is no chance for "walk ins". On the other hand, when you book an appointment, you don't have to worry about interruptions and constant doorbells. Oh... DO NOT KNOCK on the door, upon arrival. You walk up to the door, give them a chance to view you through the little security peep-hole, and the door will open. They absolutely do not want people knocking on the door, or ringing doorbells, every 30 or 60 minutes, all day long. Discretion is key.
Some pros & cons of apartments:
Pros:
-No interruptions.
-Guaranteed the full time (an hour session is 0:45-0:50 minutes of *actual* time).
-Web sites will have pictures for "window shopping". Most pics are either highly enhanced, or a completely different provider.
-Less wear and tear on the girls, so they can give a bit more personal attention.
-MUCH more privacy (no more elephant walk down the hallways).
-Depending on the agency, you have a "session" to do whatever you want (including toys & multi-pops). Some agencies might try to upsell for multi-pops.
-Some chances for "fantasy" roll play (if the booker trusts you, and the provider is up for it).
Cons:
-Higher prices.
-No table shower (standing shower).
-No walk-in option.
-4 hands will not be as common (if available at all).
-screening (sometimes intensive).
-availability of a given provider at a given time (be prepared to be flexile). Popular girls can book up, days in advance.
-Bookers can be flakey (slow response or no response, etc.).
-Don't expect a massage.
-The bookers will have your phone number, as part of the screening process.
That's my quick, off the top of my head, list. Anyone else have items to add?[/QUOTE]
Christy at Spring / Let's Relax
Sunday visit to Spring / Let's Relax. Called ahead to confirm that Christy was on duty and she was but she was otherwise engaged when I arrived so I had to wait until she was ready. All good.
Christy is a young and pretty Chinese woman. Friendly and eager to please. Fit and trim body with large man mades. Went with the standard FS hour (80 + 160). Enthusiastic table shower with NURU, TUMA, BBBJ and cleaning. She even did a reverse NURU (back to back slide).
Back to the room for a lengthy LFK session and then on to 69, MISH and some prostrate action. Finished with BBBJ CIM. Christy is a charmer with a lot of energy and enthusiasm. Very grateful for the opportunity to visit with her.
Even though the new massage law takes effect tomorrow (July 1), there as nothing out of the ordinary at Spring. I didn't ask any questions about their plans, if any, to do a work around for the new law. Didn't want to appear too nosy and there is always the language barrier at an AMP. I also didn't want to risk misunderstanding anything and then reporting erroneous info.
The AMPs have had a lot of time to prepare for the new law and I think they will solve the issues but the market will eventually make that determination. I'm solidly on Team AMP.
Christy at Spring / Let's Relax
Sunday visit to Spring / Let's Relax. Called ahead to confirm that Christy was on duty and she was but she was otherwise engaged when I arrived so I had to wait until she was ready. All good.
Christy is a young and pretty Chinese woman. Friendly and eager to please. Fit and trim body with large man mades. Went with the standard FS hour (80 + 160). Enthusiastic table shower with NURU, TUMA, BBBJ and cleaning. She even did a reverse NURU (back to back slide).
Back to the room for a lengthy LFK session and then on to 69, MISH and some prostrate action. Finished with BBBJ CIM. Christy is a charmer with a lot of energy and enthusiasm. Very grateful for the opportunity to visit with her.
Even though the new massage law takes effect tomorrow (July 1), there as nothing out of the ordinary at Spring. I didn't ask any questions about their plans, if any, to do a work around for the new law. Didn't want to appear too nosy and there is always the language barrier at an AMP. I also didn't want to risk misunderstanding anything and then reporting erroneous info.
The AMPs have had a lot of time to prepare for the new law and I think they will solve the issues but the market will eventually make that determination. I'm solidly on Team AMP.
Has the enforcement started?
Anybody drive by and see anything? [URL]https://img.ksl.com/slc/2810/281037/28103767.jpg?filter=ksl/1600x900[/URL]. I feel bad for whoever mamasan will be offering up as the sacrificial lamb.
How is this not a violation of our privacy rights?
[QUOTE=Swingle1988;6949113]I would imagine they would give it a couple of days for establishments to collect the required information then do a check to see if they complied. Not sure how they would verify the amount of customers to the information collected. Not unless they force them to give up their daily customer counts. I feel like that would be very intrusive to try and enforce.[/QUOTE]At any other healthcare treatment facility where client records are kept, can mid-grade "inspectors" examine client data, personal identifying information and treatment notes? Where are HIPAA protections in all this? I know there are monger brothers out there with legal expertise. How can this stand? Are there any legal challenges on the horizon? Thanks for your opinion.
-AG.
Fake ID business rising in FL for some reason. HAHA!
This just in.
Printing companies overwhelmed with fake ID orders in Florida! Please have patience with your printing orders. BAHAHAHA.
Hippa. Seriously. Who the heck is going to give their real name, address and phone # to an AMP?
So many opinions will be popping out in this forum on this issue I'm sure. Big waste of tax payers dollars to gain control of something that will only end up being a temporary annoyance for the AMP industry in the long run. They will find a loop hole and it will all go away as if it never happened.
And, the worst of it, it's going to cause a HUGE inconvenience to the standard massage therapy establishments that now have to spend a ton more time on documentation, data protection, reports, etc. That they can blame on politicians claiming to make the communities safer. Costing the "legit" providers more time and money when they don't make much in the first place.
Whatever.
[QUOTE=M2003;6949330]Usually if there's a warrant, court order, subpoena then they can get around hippa.[/QUOTE]