The Massholes

I never said anything about being empowered, bu tof course we all know there are tons of those guys out there. I'm just saying money comes so easy that it's inconsequential the amount the girl wants. With limits of course.

Of course I'm all about value still. Market determines the price. And as plenty of others have stated, if you're into banging or being serviced by grotesque street walking addicts, the price will reflect that.

[QUOTE=Malibu1980;3908764]There are tons of non pro college girls and single moms who will do bjs for 50 or 60 and are not addicted and very cute. I can't believe you can't find noone lower than 100 because there everywhere especially on CL in the days it was up and even now on seekingarrangements, I would never pay 80+ for a simple BJ but that's just me and I have money to burn but as the other person said it enpowers them and ruins it for everyone else.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=JakeBoss;3909328]Malibu I'm with you. I also have no money issues, but why should I on anyone pay $100 for simple BJ. I'd say those are the guys that either have plenty of money to burn, or are unattractive and just have to pay. Next thing you know some ***** will be asking for $125 for a BJ, and guys will pay that. I mean come one, let's get real here with the cost of a 10 minute BJ. What are some guys now willing to pay some chich more than what a great lawyer would make. I mean for the guys that feel the need to be these girls champions and defenders,(of who the chick give two shits about and will have her mouth on some other guys dick in no time at all,) let's do the simple math 10 min at $100 fora BJ is $600/ hr, 15 min BJ is $400/ hr. And I highly doubt most guys last more than 10-15 min for just a BJ and if you are lasting longer the chcik isn't any good at what's she's doing which makes it paying high price even worse.[/QUOTE]I kind of understand both sides in this discussion. It's hard to discuss what's the right thing to do when people have different depth of their wallet. People who would pay $100 just for a BJ wouldn't be able to convince the guys that only pay $40 for a BJ that this girl is a must-see. GPS girls will have their target customers, we just choose to not engage with them. The only conflict here is a girl who used to see me for $40 BJ now asks for $100. I have to stop seeing her in that case.

[QUOTE=JakeBoss;3909328]Malibu I'm with you. I also have no money issues, but why should I on anyone pay $100 for simple BJ. I'd say those are the guys that either have plenty of money to burn, or are unattractive and just have to pay. Next thing you know some ***** will be asking for $125 for a BJ, and guys will pay that. I mean come one, let's get real here with the cost of a 10 minute BJ. What are some guys now willing to pay some chich more than what a great lawyer would make. I mean for the guys that feel the need to be these girls champions and defenders,(of who the chick give two shits about and will have her mouth on some other guys dick in no time at all,) let's do the simple math 10 min at $100 fora BJ is $600/ hr, 15 min BJ is $400/ hr. And I highly doubt most guys last more than 10-15 min for just a BJ and if you are lasting longer the chcik isn't any good at what's she's doing which makes it paying high price even worse.[/QUOTE]Serious overkill with the math. Why don't I get a stop watch and pay them by the second or minute and in pennies too? LOL. Talk about taking the fun out of it dude! If you aren't into it or think it's too much, it's quite simple-don't pay it! Shop around, and use your money elsewhere. Do what you see is fit and call it a day. Don't assume the guy is bad or unattractive for paying what he feels is fair to a provider-just like it doesn't make a guy a bum cheapskate to want to pay less for a girl's services. Bottom line, it's not ever going to change, girls are always going to find plenty of men to pay what they request, so if it's such an issue, maybe some people should consider a different hobby. But you're right why should you pay anyone $100 for a simple BJ just like why should I not? Goes both ways. Like someone said earlier there are many of those girls that will do it for $40-50 are there for you, so no big deal. There are who want to shop at Dollar Tree for their socks and some want to shop at Nordstrom.

Cheers!

[QUOTE=Fisherman61;3909174]Well that wasn't very nice. And I have to disagree wholeheartedly.

I am also going to go on a limb here and point out that you probably.

Never even met Allie because if you truly had, you'd know she has a.

Strict policy of only meeting in her own vehicle because it's more roomy.

And tinted.

And I have seen her a few times when I travel to the Cape and.

My experience was always quite sensual and I left very satisfied.

There was nothing but a firm set of perky B cups and a very nice bum.

To squeeze which you can also see from the pictures posted.

As I always say YMMV but I always put my opinion in when I think.

Someone is just being negative for no reason.[/QUOTE]Everybody's experience is different. Mine was similar to yours and I paid $$.5.

[QUOTE=JakeBoss;3909328]Malibu I'm with you. I also have no money issues, but why should I on anyone pay $100 for simple BJ. I'd say those are the guys that either have plenty of money to burn, or are unattractive and just have to pay. Next thing you know some ***** will be asking for $125 for a BJ, and guys will pay that. I mean come one, let's get real here with the cost of a 10 minute BJ. What are some guys now willing to pay some chich more than what a great lawyer would make. I mean for the guys that feel the need to be these girls champions and defenders,(of who the chick give two shits about and will have her mouth on some other guys dick in no time at all,) let's do the simple math 10 min at $100 fora BJ is $600/ hr, 15 min BJ is $400/ hr. And I highly doubt most guys last more than 10-15 min for just a BJ and if you are lasting longer the chcik isn't any good at what's she's doing which makes it paying high price even worse.[/QUOTE]OK, let's ignore the argument for a minute on whether or not guys paying "too much" affects prices. Does anyone think pleading with the users of theses boards is going to change anyone's spending habits? Really? Do you think even a minority of the users here will band together enough to affect prices? This pricing thread comes and goes as often as the "talent" you seek on the street. This first time I heard someone put out the idea of asking everyone to help keep prices low was on another board for big dogs in 2001. It didn't work then either.

BTW, I do not use the street so I have no skin in this game (so to speak LOL).

[QUOTE=Spill;3909723]OK, let's ignore the argument for a minute on whether or not guys paying "too much" affects prices. Does anyone think pleading with the users of theses boards is going to change anyone's spending habits? Really? Do you think even a minority of the users here will band together enough to affect prices? This pricing thread comes and goes as often as the "talent" you seek on the street. This first time I heard someone put out the idea of asking everyone to help keep prices low was on another board for big dogs in 2001. It didn't work then either.

BTW, I do not use the street so I have no skin in this game (so to speak LOL).[/QUOTE]Of course, it won't work. It's one's right to pay whatever he wants. It's up to the girl, if she can see a guy for $200 and that's all she wants, she will not see 2 guys for $100 each.

[QUOTE=Spill;3909723]OK, let's ignore the argument for a minute on whether or not guys paying "too much" affects prices. Does anyone think pleading with the users of theses boards is going to change anyone's spending habits? Really? Do you think even a minority of the users here will band together enough to affect prices? This pricing thread comes and goes as often as the "talent" you seek on the street. This first time I heard someone put out the idea of asking everyone to help keep prices low was on another board for big dogs in 2001. It didn't work then either.

BTW, I do not use the street so I have no skin in this game (so to speak LOL).[/QUOTE]I tip my hat to you sir. Very well stated. Let us all now move forward and enjoy our lady friends the best way we know how. Godspeed to you all.

As as a big advocate for keeping prices low and I don't know if anyone puts that practice to use more then I do.

The problem we're facing with the Champions, Defenders and Captain Save a Hoe Gullibles is that they really ruin everything. They are everything from repeated offenders, Inflators, Gullible Idiots, Selfish pricks to down right flip flopping Hypocrites.

If a monger was to post that he met a provider and she gave a good service blow job for $40 bills, the inflator, being the skunk that he is, making a stink wherever he goes, he will look at that review and run to her and pay her possibly more, 60,70 to even 80. He will then come back on the board and tell you he, too, went to see that provider and thought she treated him nice and he wanted to be generous and gave her 40 plus a $20 tips or paid her 80. And you're asking him, why, why did you do that? Why did you have to go and drive up the price and give her that much and now empowering her to think that this is going to be the norm. You just ruin it for the guy that was getting his fix at the $40 bills price because next time he goes in there, there's a good chance she's going to hassle him for more. This shit has happened over again and again, and again. It is this selfish act by these Inflators in denial that they can't seem to grasp. They gloat and rave about their overspending like they are God's gift to these women when in reality, they ain't shit but the biggest degenerate desperate fucks with worthless egos that needs to glorify their actions to make themselves feel good and superior. When reality is, they are inferior. Stop acting you really have money like that. You slave 9-5 everyday just like everybody else.

What's even worse, most of the time, they don't even stay with the providers they inflate the prices with and keep them as their main regular, no, that'd be too costly for them. What they keep doing is, finding posts of Mongers with providers or chics with low prices and they go after them and causes the damage by driving up the price paying them more. To add more insult to injury, some of them will even post how a provider that they were paying too much on, has now become too expansive for them so they're looking for one of the cheap. And this is exactly why some of us on the other side of this argument have been saying, why cause the inflation and shoot yourself in the foot only to complain later that she is charging too much. Why can't you stop driving up the price so you, too, can have more bang for the buck and enjoy it for a while. What's the hurry?. What's with the tips, paying extra just because she called you handsome or make some silly convo. Are you that fucking desperate that any little thing they do or say is reason for you to give more money and gloat about it. Yeah we are all degenerates who are paying for pussy but there is a valid reason for that behavior. Some of us don't want to deal with the emotional baggage of these chics nowadays. If you can get the stupid shit on a set price then fuck it, cut all that run around short and lets get it to it. That is the whole purpose anyways when we try to take them out to eat, pay to go out, shopping, paying their bills ect. You may be doing all that and she's stringing you along while fucking another guy and not give you shit yet. Women are not loyal or trusworthy. Most of us would love to drill many we see on the streets, this hobby has made this surreal fantasy a possibility to no end. It now gives us some sort of power, we have the upper hand or at least level the playing field. But some of you Gullibles are so god dam useless and worthless, you can't even make that shit work for you and taking it away from us and are being arrogantly stupid and selfish.

You belittle the guy that says his budget is strict and he'd like get more bang for the buck by acting all macho, saying you can pay more and willing to pay more. For some reason, you seem to always be on the side of defending the provider, why? She doesn't care and give a fuck about you but the money. Stop pleading for the providers, SWs or escorts like you owe them something or that they are suffering, they ain't suffering shit. When they're not with your sorry ass, they're traveling the world or going to Vegas and spending a boat load of that cash, out shopping, driving luxurious cars. Why is it that providers, SWs or Escorts almost think on the same level in this business. Their ideological thinking to work together to make money stays the same. Do you think they would lower the price for any of us to get repeated business, they would Shun or call that chic out, like what the fuck are you doing giving out blow jobs for $10 or FS for $15 on Street level and maybe $30 BJ and $40/50 on AMP or Escort level. Imagine if they were doing that, the girls would freak out, like why are you lowering the price to these Jons making it so cheap and put us at a disadvantage. For us its the opposite, why are you driving the price. If a girl is known to get $40 fo Blow, why give her 60 or 80 and ruin it for the next man. And if FS was 80, why are you dropping 120 to 160.

Its like some of you don't know the price of pussy. We always say if a brand new car comes out of the lot, it just lost 50% of its value then how come the same philosophy apply here. How do you keep paying more for a chic that's getting banged repeatedly? Its like some of you don't know the value of a beat up pussy. When I was deep in the AMP game about 2 years ago, I had providers I was getting on the dirt cheap price whereas I saw reviews of guys paying astronomical prices. I've bumped into a couple of mongers coming out of AMPs and I can see clearly why some over pay. Maybe younger guys get away with stuff but if you have money I can't see why you can't have some power to make it work in your favor. Some of us who likes prices to stay standards are the only ones who are victims of the Gullible Idiot Inflators because don't step on their foot. We're not going to try to outbid you.

I say we Shun these repeated offenders on here. There's got to be a way or something we can think of to form a group where those that like to pay standard price go away from those that likes to inflate. Posting reviews on here, the selfish pricks will find the lead and ruin it like they always do. There's no talking to these idiots anymore, no getting through them. Best thing to do is Shun them and let them be. If there's a way we can for a different group and share our intel and not involved them, itd be ideal. More wishful thinking then reality but if there's a will there's a way. Its time we start calling them out.

I can say I've very much appreciated the tips on here and HAVE changed my habits. If a girl wants 80 for tits out, I typically just refuse and stick with the 40 ending.

[QUOTE=Spill;3909723]OK, let's ignore the argument for a minute on whether or not guys paying "too much" affects prices. Does anyone think pleading with the users of theses boards is going to change anyone's spending habits? Really? Do you think even a minority of the users here will band together enough to affect prices? This pricing thread comes and goes as often as the "talent" you seek on the street. This first time I heard someone put out the idea of asking everyone to help keep prices low was on another board for big dogs in 2001. It didn't work then either.

BTW, I do not use the street so I have no skin in this game (so to speak LOL).[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=JimXuper90;3909652]I kind of understand both sides in this discussion. It's hard to discuss what's the right thing to do when people have different depth of their wallet. People who would pay $100 just for a BJ wouldn't be able to convince the guys that only pay $40 for a BJ that this girl is a must-see. GPS girls will have their target customers, we just choose to not engage with them. The only conflict here is a girl who used to see me for $40 BJ now asks for $100. I have to stop seeing her in that case.[/QUOTE]Sometimes girls will take a much lower rate than they typically ask for at a time of desperation or circumstance, but they should stay at that rate for you though. Whatever you both agree on from day one should stay that way. It's all subjective of course, hey, girls have the right to ask for whatever they want for their work. But my point is if some girl that I've seen in the past or regularly at a certain rate agreed upon suddenly changes the cost and tries to go up on me, that is a huge turn off. That is then someone I say goodbye to. Talk about terribly poor customer service and customer retention practices.

Some of these providers know the forever desperate and weak Gullibles, even with money, can be sucked to almost anything.

I've read numerous reviews on here where Gullibles will talk about a provider popping out the tits is cause for them to pay more. I shake my head at that shit that you're allowing this inflation at a simple peek. Some of you guys have no charm whatsoever. At. 80 thatd be full service for me, no freakin way I'm going to drop another. 40 at a silly peak of a nipple. I had one provider who used to give me a total complete GFE experienced, everything minus FS for. 60. It got to the point where it wasnt even massage anymore. The minute I come in she takes cash and goes out for me to undress. I sit upright on the table. She comes in and plants herself right between my legs and puts her arms around my neck and lets me go to work on that body. I'd take my sweet time too. I'd unzip her pants and slowly rub her ass, lick tits, kiss her by the neck and lick her then slowly finger kitty. Then take the whole pants and panties off put my cock between her crotch and stroke it between her legs. Then turn her around and do the same and this time able to grab the tities from behind. I remember watching her reaction from the mirror it made her horny with her head tilted back and eyes close while I'm enjoying her sweet body in whatever ways. At times if I felt like it I'd ask her to suck me off and shed gladly oblige. Shed go take a towel, soak it with water and swipe it on my cock so she can get a clean suck. And I'd get on the table and watch her give me a slow sucking with her little lips completely full with my big cock in her mouth. When I was ready to finish I'd get her in a missionary or doggy and unload on her ass or puss. It was always like that in my visit. I barely got a massage. Sometimes I'd finish early and shed tell me to stay for a bit so she can massage me, I guess she liked the convo a bit because we used to get some laughs talking. Mind you she struggled a whole lot with her english and I didn't give a fuck all that mumbo jumbo she was saying. I just said yes or no and talked back and whatever. I surely miss her. She mustve been 50 that little old lady but had a sweet teenage body and decent face that could pass for her late 30's early 40. These asian women have a fountain of youth for sure.

I always imagined what mongers would have paid for all that I got. It used to always be 100, flat. 40 fir half hour and the 60 for tips. Money well spent given this was an AMP. Others would have spent a boatload on it. I've seen some mongers reviewed her but only mentioned simple HJ finish but never thought she was willing to do more. I never mentioned her either so they wouldn't fuck it up but just read the reviews and saw no one was taking advantage of it.

So I tip my hat of to you that you stood your ground and not over tip and cause inflation for a silly titie coming out. This is the stuff they know Gullibles are dumb about and can sucker them into paying unecessary amount when it should come with the service at times if one is a repeat customer. If theyre willing to pay for top off imagine how much theyd drop if she took of her pants and just let them see her pretty cotton flowered pants, the gullibles would go nuts.

[QUOTE=NewOld;3910226]I can say I've very much appreciated the tips on here and HAVE changed my habits. If a girl wants 80 for tits out, I typically just refuse and stick with the 40 ending.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Spill;3909130]Well, if there are "tons of non pro college girls and single moms who will do bjs for 50 or 60 and are not addicted and very cute" then I guess those that pay 100 do not "ruin it for everyone else".[/QUOTE]It's an american thing, and maybe a Russian oligarch thing. There are men, generally very insecure men, who think because they paid more they are better or the girl will like them more.

It never made any sense to me because generally speaking there is an inverse relationship between price and service. Yet there are sad and pathetic men who walk into the shoe store and say "can I please pay 200 dollars for those shoes you have marked at 80?

[QUOTE=AudiAndrew78;3910267]But my point is if some girl that I've seen in the past or regularly at a certain rate agreed upon suddenly changes the cost and tries to go up on me, that is a huge turn off. That is then someone I say goodbye to. Talk about terribly poor customer service and customer retention practices.[/QUOTE]There were two possible outcomes in such case and I have experienced them all.

1) she will tell you her price is increased. You eat up the cost or you drop her.

2) She won't respond to your text as much as it should be. She's dropping you since she's in demand.

And if you expect a good customer service from most of these girls. You are kidding yourself.

I've fucked a couple for free after establishing a little rapore. 6'2 and built helps. Tough though when girls move around and you don't get to do this as often as you like when you're married.

It doesn't have as much to do with charm or looks as you might believe. Some of these girls are just stone walls. Some just want to get banged. Kinda like all girls.

[QUOTE=Grogrin;3910504]Some of these providers know the forever desperate and weak Gullibles, even with money, can be sucked to almost anything.

I've read numerous reviews on here where Gullibles will talk about a provider popping out the tits is cause for them to pay more. I shake my head at that shit that you're allowing this inflation at a simple peek. Some of you guys have no charm whatsoever. At. 80 thatd be full service for me, no freakin way I'm going to drop another. 40 at a silly peak of a nipple. I had one provider who used to give me a total complete GFE experienced, everything minus FS for. 60. It got to the point where it wasnt even massage anymore. The minute I come in she takes cash and goes out for me to undress. I sit upright on the table. She comes in and plants herself right between my legs and puts her arms around my neck and lets me go to work on that body. I'd take my sweet time too. I'd unzip her pants and slowly rub her ass, lick tits, kiss her by the neck and lick her then slowly finger kitty. Then take the whole pants and panties off put my cock between her crotch and stroke it between her legs. Then turn her around and do the same and this time able to grab the tities from behind. I remember watching her reaction from the mirror it made her horny with her head tilted back and eyes close while I'm enjoying her sweet body in whatever ways. At times if I felt like it I'd ask her to suck me off and shed gladly oblige. Shed go take a towel, soak it with water and swipe it on my cock so she can get a clean suck. And I'd get on the table and watch her give me a slow sucking with her little lips completely full with my big cock in her mouth.[/QUOTE]

I absolutely LOVE losers that move shit like this to massholes. Facts hurt sometimes. Deal with it pathetic one.

[QUOTE=NewOld;3910893]I've fucked a couple for free after establishing a little rapore. 6'2 and built helps. Tough though when girls move around and you don't get to do this as often as you like when you're married.

It doesn't have as much to do with charm or looks as you might believe. Some of these girls are just stone walls. Some just want to get banged. Kinda like all girls.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Admin2;3910543]It's an american thing, and maybe a Russian oligarch thing. There are men, generally very insecure men, who think because they paid more they are better or the girl will like them more.

It never made any sense to me because generally speaking there is an inverse relationship between price and service. Yet there are sad and pathetic men who walk into the shoe store and say "can I please pay 200 dollars for those shoes you have marked at 80?[/QUOTE]Why worry about the people that pay too much if there are still plenty around at reasonable prices. That was my point.

Predictability and Idiocy walk hand in hand. Should I even begin dissecting this or your other piles of shit?

At what point did I say there is an issue with paying $20? Read my fucking posts, $20 isn't the real issue here, it's your insistence that we can somehow magically control inflation and become some kind of mongering cartel that keeps prices low. This isn't fucking OPEC, and you clearly aren't a genius! My point (I would highlight it in red if I could so you understand) is that people in life generally pay whatever they are willing to pay and perceive value differently. I pay $20, I pay $30, I pay $40, I pay $50. You get the point. Actually, maybe not because you somehow can't seem to get past your fixation on $20 (or whatever number) being 'the' price. Do you want me to come on posts thanking everyone who only paid $20 because they did me such a favor and staved off inflation? Captain Inflation, the defender of the weak. You and your merry band of men are single-handedly saving us from paying 'too much'. Are you the Lord of price and who appointed you? Maybe you should create an app that everybody can use to contact you when they go see a hoe. When they get there, they take a picture, describe the girl, the circumstances, her menu and then ask you what the 'right' price is. Let me take your idiotic logic further. How many mongers do we need to say they paid a certain price for it to be 'the' price? If more mongers are paying $30 than $20 for your $20 hoe, when do we say $30 is 'the' price? How do we establish how much everybody paid? Does USASG contain a listing of every transaction for every hoe and every monger? Did I lose your dumb ass with these questions? When you sat there and blurted some shit, had you actually thought anything through? To me, you are the embodiment of a fool.

Maybe I can try and be a little more clear for you: Sometimes, I negotiate and sometimes, I don't. Sometimes, I don't want to pay a lot and sometimes, I don't give a fuck. Sometimes, I want a SW, sometimes I want a HE and sometimes, I want escort pussy. Sometimes I'm broke so I just have a wank.

Multiply the (capital) I's in that last paragraph by 2 and, just in case your stupid ass forgot mathematics, it adds up to your favorite number - 20. (You currently seem so fixated on that number, I was starting to wonder if you have any other numbers lurking in that empty space you call a brain.).

Twenty I's, because what I (Capital I) want to do is what fucking matters and I will pay what I want to pay irrespective of your stupid $20/ inflation / whatever bullshit. I guarantee you many others follow the same policy. Willingness to pay!

If you want to keep paying $20 - go ahead. If another monger wants to pay $30, let him go ahead. When I go see her and I want to pay $20 and she says it's on offer for $30 'because some other monger ruined it for me', I decide whether I'm willing to pay $30 and if not I say thanks and goodbye, or see if she's willing to receive $20. If enough people are willing to pay $30, that becomes the price. If not, she has a rough few days and goes back to $20. I don't come on here and start berating folks for 'raising prices' because their willingness to pay was higher than mine and the market price shifted.

And before I sign off, Economics 101: No agreement = No cartel. If you are dumb enough to think that you can get agreement from ALL mongers (yes, for a cartel to work, it has to be everybody), I'm not sure there are any institutions on earth that exist to fix your kind of stupid. Who is to stop anyone paying $200 for a $40 hoe? It isn't rational to do that by any means, but the point I am trying to make is that people will pay what they want, for whatever reason they want. All you can do is say what you paid, and leave the rest to them and the market. From my perspective, the 'strategy' here is simple. Write reviews, post your pictures, tell us what you paid (negotiated / whatever), ask questions, make connections / swaps and offer other generally positive contribution. Quit with this 'Lord Price' bullshit.

Or maybe as you suggested, you and your band of friends can go start your own group somewhere and share info on $20 (or whatever the 'right price' is) experiences. I'd be happy to spend $20 to not have you bore us with your inflation nonsense. Actually, maybe I'd pay $50 - is that too much? If you setup a gofundme to start your 'price busters' group, my $50 is a guaranteed contribution. And while you and your merry men are off sharing info on 'right priced' hoes, the rest of the world will keep paying what they want, the market price will be established, and your 'right priced' hoes will realize they can make more money, even if their trusted group of 'pay the right price clients' don't budge. Basically, economics will do what it has done since the beginning of time and Grogrin won't be able to do shit about it. It isn't me or other 'defenders / save-a-hoes / gullibles / whatever-term-you-think-is-appropriate' that you are fighting, it's fucking economics, and if you think you can win, well, I think I already said there aren't any institutions for your kind of STUPID.

[QUOTE=Grogrin;3906634]This coming from the hypocrite Dick Head Numbnut who is enjoying the same skunks everybody is dipping into for $2 bills. In another thing with these Dumb Asses I forgot to point out, whenever you mentioned about negotiating or getting a SW or provider on the cheap, they somehow want you to believe that the Hoe is filthier then the ones they run into. And its the same fucking Hoes that we're all fucking but just to make themselves feel better, like this Idiot BPNinja here, they downgrade your session, chic or strategy so to feel superior. I get it, it's a worthless ego confidence booster to help guys like you feel important when in reality, YOU AIN'T SHIT BUT JUST ANOTHER DEGENERATE PRICK HORNY LOSER LIKE EVERYBODY.

Go fuck yourself with pompus attitude that ain't worth shit. I know Betsy, you had her for a lousy $20 didn't you, so what the fuck does that make you. You fucking hypocrite Imbecile.[/QUOTE]

I think you may be over analyzing and overreacting to Grogrin's stance regarding overpaying these hoes, Mr. Ninja. It's pretty simple and basic. However Grogrin does use too much words and paragraphs to relay what he is saying when really all it is is this, and I do agree with it and also do it myself. Try, as much as you can, when dealing with these really low-level, drug addicted hoes, like the Newmarket and BHA SW's, specificallly, to get a bargain deal of a BJ, at or around 20 dollars, simply because it is the most logical, sensible thing to do, and really all it is worth for what this group of girls have to offer, as well as their hideous looks and other cleanllness / smell / disease issues they deal with. You just want a fast nut and not friends, should be the goal, so while at it, try to achieve that as cheaply as possible, and if most guys follow that, then the price will stay around that amount for years to come.

Stability in the market for these specific group of hoes will come around if we are all consistent. And it has, pretty much, because I've been paying 20-30 for over twenty years now. Also, there is no need to care about them or their situation, or try to befriend them. Simple pleasantness and not much more, is all is required. Most have been their own worst enemies and brought on most or all of their problems so that is their cross to bear. Don't get tricked into guiltiness, you aren't. Also, they can say no and not get in your ride if you say you only want to pay 20 or so, but the overwhelming percentage of them will still get in and accept it, so why would anyone ever pay more, especially much more? There is no need to and it is just common sense.

And that 20 to 25 will still get them some food, cigs, and drugs if they manage it well, and also who is stopping them from working longer and harder, suck 5, 6 or even more dicks a day, and earn more money, I mean, shit, they can make more than us on certain busy days if they put in the effort and persistence, but that motivation will have to come from them, and some aren't too motivated after that first date. I would advise all these hoes to work harder, do more and be more consistent and slowly but surely life will be better for them. Any of us non SW's, try to do this in our real lives, why shouldn't they? As they rise in life, they can charge more. That is my 2 cents, FSN out.

You are fucking Stupid, seek fucking Help dude, seriously. At least I make sense in my messages, you on the other hand, you're talking endless nonsense jibberish. I just quickly browsed and can't believe how dumb you sound and wonder if you even took a breather instead of going on impulse and submitted this rant. I didn't even bother reading this diatribe bullshit, you lost me at the first go.

One can assume that literature was not something you excel in, in school. Talk about Mama and economics, how about Your Momma needed to get you mental help early when you were sucking on her filthy cum stained nipples so you wouldn't turn out to be this degenerate, deranged retarded sounded lunatic that you just displayed. Condoms must've been bad when you were born. Its unfortunate we are suffering the consequences of your stupidity in existence.

Fucker took 3 weeks for a god dam rebuttal only to make a come back and make no God dam sense and sound like a complete fucking idiot. With your "Twenty I's". "I, I, I, I'm this, I'm that. ", like you're some kind of royalty when reality is you're nothing but a degenerate prick horny fucking loser paying for his fix just like everybody else. You mumbling, jibberish, retarded, Stuttering fuck you.

You sound so angry and butt hurt, Too fucking bad. You opened up on me so don't be crying when I clap back. Keep talking shit and you're going to get it in kind, I'm not going to be intimidated by the likes of you on here who likes to talk down on mongers because you think you're special, FUCK YOU, YOU AIN'T SHIT.

You're foaming when talking out the both sides of your mouth. Like I told you before, I will tell you again, take the Dick out your mouth, stick it up your ass and GO FUCK YOURSELF.

Fucking BPNinja, what's that stand for, "Btch Pussy", LOL, how laughable. Fucking fake ass Storm Shadow wannabe fucking idiot.

[QUOTE=BPNinja;3912034]Predictability and Idiocy walk hand in hand. Should I even begin dissecting this or your other piles of shit?

At what point did I say there is an issue with paying $20? Read my fucking posts, $20 isn't the real issue here...........

Twenty I's, because what I (Capital I) want to do is what fucking matters and I will pay what I want to pay irrespective of your stupid $20/ inflation / whatever bullshit. I guarantee you many others follow the same policy. Willingness to pay!

blah blah blah blah blah......and more blah blah.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Grogrin;3913237]You are fucking Stupid, seek fucking Help dude, seriously. At least I make sense in my messages, you on the other hand, you're talking endless nonsense jibberish. I just quickly browsed and can't believe how dumb you sound and wonder if you even took a breather instead of going on impulse and submitted this rant. I didn't even bother reading this diatribe bullshit, you lost me at the first go.

One can assume that literature was not something you excel in, in school. Talk about Mama and economics, how about Your Momma needed to get you mental help early when you were sucking on her filthy cum stained nipples so you wouldn't turn out to be this degenerate, deranged retarded sounded lunatic that you just displayed. Condoms must've been bad when you were born. Its unfortunate we are suffering the consequences of your stupidity in existence.

Fucker took 3 weeks for a god dam rebuttal only to make a come back and make no God dam sense and sound like a complete fucking idiot. With your "Twenty I's". "I, I, I, I'm this, I'm that. ", like you're some kind of royalty when reality is you're nothing but a degenerate prick horny fucking loser paying for his fix just like everybody else. You mumbling, jibberish, retarded, Stuttering fuck you.

You sound so angry and butt hurt, Too fucking bad. You opened up on me so don't be crying when I clap back. Keep talking shit and you're going to get it in kind, I'm not going to be intimidated by the likes of you on here who likes to talk down on mongers because you think you're special, FUCK YOU, YOU AIN'T SHIT.

You're foaming when talking out the both sides of your mouth. Like I told you before, I will tell you again, take the Dick out your mouth, stick it up your ass and GO FUCK YOURSELF.

Fucking BPNinja, what's that stand for, "Btch Pussy", LOL, how laughable. Fucking fake ass Storm Shadow wannabe fucking idiot.[/QUOTE]That's hilarious how Negsiro is talking about someone not excelling at literature in school. I bet he doesn't even have a high school diploma.

[QUOTE=FarFarAway;3914124]You're taking a real risk if you are making that $ offer on the seeking website. They are under HUGE pressure b / c of FOSTA to keep pay for play off the site. I do know of people who got banned for doing it, and your membership $ goes too if that happens. Take the talk off the site to text. Also, just my preference, if you want to treat them like cheap escorts, don't do it on seeking. I have real arrangements w / real SBs I meet on the site, I don't have any place to go if it goes down. As long as it retains credibility as a dating site, I'm happy. If it becomes just the next backpage, well, you're fine but I am hosed.[/QUOTE]I don't know where you guys get this idea that "arrangements" aren't commercial sex. They know what's coming, that's why they went to auto rebill and are booting guys right and left in order to make them create new accounts and pay again.

"Seeking" is the new backpage, if it wasn't those "real SB's" wouldn't be a few and you would be the ONLY guy they were seeing.

They are hookers, you are a john end of story.

A2.

[QUOTE=Fisherman61;3909174]Well that wasn't very nice. And I have to disagree wholeheartedly.

I am also going to go on a limb here and point out that you probably.

Never even met Allie because if you truly had, you'd know she has a.

Strict policy of only meeting in her own vehicle because it's more roomy.

And tinted.

And I have seen her a few times when I travel to the Cape and.

My experience was always quite sensual and I left very satisfied.

There was nothing but a firm set of perky B cups and a very nice bum.

To squeeze which you can also see from the pictures posted.

As I always say YMMV but I always put my opinion in when I think..[/QUOTE]Is there a reason why all our posts from the weekend were moved to a different folder? Does a little banter and opinionative conversation constitute a Masshole LOL. Alas, I shall will wave my Masshole flag proudly.

[blue]It was getting a little warm. Sometimes I move conversations here when they have outlived their usefulness on the review thread.

A2[/blue]

[QUOTE=Fisherman61;3915358]Is there a reason why all our posts from the weekend were moved to a different folder? Does a little banter and opinionative conversation constitute a Masshole LOL. Alas, I shall will wave my Masshole flag proudly.

[blue]It was getting a little warm. Sometimes I move conversations here when they have outlived their usefulness on the review thread.

A2[/blue][/QUOTE]Understood, keep up the good work A2. Thanks for having us all here.

A2 is really a Pansy. The, "A", stands for Asshole and he really acts like such.

At first, when I, too, saw him placing the replies in this section, we said okay, we get your point. Sometimes a reply can boil some blood and turn into a fight but SO THE FUCK WHAT, WE ARE MEN AREN'T YOU. Unlike this Pansy A2 who is quick to jump the gun and misplaced the thread and just kill the contribution really makes him out to be this pompus, egotistical, and condescending asshole.

Some of us have abide by the rule and try their best to not show hostility in the reply but the idiot still misplaces it and have you scratching your head, why? One time, dunno if A2 was jerking of or high on vodka and accidentally moved a whole fucking page and a half of threads to the masshole section, like WTF. The plies are in relation to the subject matter which makes it relevant. We need to see the responses so we can have an understanding, it'll eventually die out. The masshole section, as it looks, it just for guys letting off steam randomly and just going at each other for no god dam reason and not related to anything. This dude here is ruining the experience for us by jumping the gun.

He thinks he is keeping things in order when reality is, he takes away traffic from mongers who hesitate to post when they see something they've reacted on is removed, deleted, moved to another section or worse, see this pompus asshole, edited and belittle you to stroke his ego and you have no power to reply back or else he'll threaten you with expulsion and bans. FUCK YOU.

I wish you would not delete my replies and be a man and go at with me in a war of words. I'd give you a run for your money.

Leave this post up I dare you, come back at me correct and don't block me like the Btch that you are. Mongers kiss your ass on here because they're intimidated with your silly ban threats. I'm here to tell you again, YOU AIN'T SHIT.

[blue]Ok, I didn't delete this stupidity but why would I waste my time on a troll like you?

Gotta say though you sure seem to spend a lot of time thinking about me.

A2[/blue]

[QUOTE=Fisherman61;3916117]Understood, keep up the good work A2. Thanks for having us all here.[/QUOTE]

I love how the gimmedats don't even try to hide their thirstyness, it's always can I get that number, or I'd love to contact her, or some other bullshit, first off mooch you PM me offer something in trade, you want my shit what you got in trade? I'm not going to accept it as several douchebag white knights fucked me over several times, but you might get lucky with some of the other people on this site. I'm going to start putting the people who PM on blast and showing how sad and thirst they are.

Agree. Not a lot of sharing going on. That's why the ter model was so successful.

I just say in my posts that those who come bearing gifts will move to the front of the line LOL.

[QUOTE=Physcosid;3916454]I love how the gimmedats don't even try to hide their thirstyness, it's always can I get that number, or I'd love to contact her, or some other bullshit, first off mooch you PM me offer something in trade, you want my shit what you got in trade? I'm not going to accept it as several douchebag white knights fucked me over several times, but you might get lucky with some of the other people on this site. I'm going to start putting the people who PM on blast and showing how sad and thirst they are.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Physcosid;3916454]I love how the gimmedats don't even try to hide their thirstyness, it's always can I get that number, or I'd love to contact her, or some other bullshit, first off mooch you PM me offer something in trade, you want my shit what you got in trade? I'm not going to accept it as several douchebag white knights fucked me over several times, but you might get lucky with some of the other people on this site. I'm going to start putting the people who PM on blast and showing how sad and thirst they are.[/QUOTE]Agreed, I got a PM from someone with zero posts to the forum asking me for contacts from seekingarrangements I made. Who the fuck do these people think they are on here. Yea just join the site and expect everyone to give you numbers especially when we are paying 90.00 a month for them.

[QUOTE=Physcosid;3916454]I'm going to start putting the people who PM on blast and showing how sad and thirst they are.[/QUOTE]No, you won't. Unless you're dying to get put back on moderation.

It may surprise you to know this but as many people who you think are assholes is equal to the number of people who think you are one as well.

This is true of everybody except that troll Grogrin.

A2.

[QUOTE=Grogrin;3916434]and go at with me in a war of words. I'd give you a run for your money.

[/QUOTE]This might be the funniest thing ever written in this thread!

So Neggie, exactly how are you going to win? Maybe by confusing him with run on sentences, misplaced punctuation marks, horrible grammar and basically unreadable content?

[QUOTE=Physcosid;3917697]I guess I don't have to put the PMS on blast, when you turn off your messaging they get thirsty and post on the forum. Notice there's nothing in it for me, just you mind sharing, now this is a gimmedat a person who wants me to give them what I have but isn't willing to give anything themselves. These are typical of the PMS I recieve, give me the number no reciprocal exchange just gimmedat. I used to give out private info but too many on here ruined my good thing and I stopped. I gave the where, her name, and she's a WSW, I'll also say she was medium to petite build, blonde, and had on white shorts with a silver sparkle belt. Now go forth and find your own hoes.[/QUOTE]Dude, how long are you going to be crying about this like a punk btch. You already know who we're working with here. A bunch of lazy, fat, hairy razorback like, blue balls, clueless mongers. Those are the same idiots that are out there causing inflation at every turn when they step out onto the field and meet the SWs. I have seen a couple of mongers staking out at and spring to pick up a SW, I can see perfectly why they inflate the prices and quick to ask you for numbers when you post it.

Put your big boy pants on and stop whining and just tell them to GO FUCK THEMSELVES or get hardcore and demand some hoes in return man. Stop being a fucking pansy and PUT THEM ON BLASTS, FUCK them, you don't know them, you'll never meet them and you don't owe them shit. These same fuckers tried that shit with me a while back when I posted I had providers on the cheap, providers I worked hard on to establish a connection and was willing to share only if they had one similar. I got tons of bums asking for digits and when I asked them to share what they had, they'd end up giving me leads to providers they've jacked up prices on to the point of no return. The fuckers even admitted themselves that they can no longer visit them and why they were interested in my cheap ones and were stunned the details I laid out for them what they could get compared to what they were paying. This is why I say these Inflators are not only dumb as fuck but really shooting themselves on the foot, not doing themselves any favors and crying about it.

When I refused to share because they had nothing similar to exchange, I didn't want their jacked up bullshit, they started to go cry on the board and try to belittle me and I returned the favor in kind. So do the same, stop crying like a Btch and name those that persistently keep hitting you up with nothing in return so we know who to watch out for.

More than half of the problem is that these idiots go out in the field with too much money on them, when all they need really is a twenty and a few ones and lock everything else in their trunk.

Not interested? Okay, no prob, some other girl will be, out you go darling, Simple as that.

Feels, I stand corrected about most of these mongers that they are degenerate scrubs not at the bottom of the bucket but underneath it. I mean, if you can't convince a fucking crack head, high strung on that monkey shit, hung over like a zombie, to suck you off for $2 bills, then shit. Words can't describe how deflated your balls are, seriously.

And this is my battle here with the Captain Save a Hoes, Inflators and Gullible Idiots who are just wreaking havoc on the streets with their inflation. They're so in denial, they like to twist and make you out to be the one who's got issues because you pay cheap and refuse to be in their idiotic practice. To see a post where a Monger ask where he can find a SW that gives BBBJ for $6 bills, is just astonishing.

I really think it comes down to jealousy, never mind envy. This notion that what we do as mongers out in the field on the streets and post on here doesn't affect the mongering community, is the most selfish thing to say and act upon. The SWs know each of their actions can affect things. If we were to roll up and a group of girls were giving out Blow jobs for $10-15, other girls would call them out and say, hey, WTF are you doing, you going to make jons think we're all giving out BJ for $15 cut that shit out. AMP providers, same thing, they all follow the same line but us. For some reason, we like to go it alone and don't think that what one to several individuals do can affect us. And its been proven over again and again that some mongers actions have affected others.

From AMPs to SWs to Escorts, the Gullible Idiotic Inflators keeps inflating prices when they don't have to, empower the hoes and other mongers suffer their stupidity. They do it for no reason but to stroke a worthless ego. They come on here to brag about it like they got better treatment when in reality they didn't get shit but shot themselves in the foot. The same ones that was doing the bragging about being generous and overpaid will turn around the next week and post how so and so is charging too much now and they need to find a new fix on the cheap. I see it all the time. If you post that dumb fucking shit then why can't you get in line and follow the practice to keep things standard. I am trying to find a way to bring in together mongers who like to keep things standard and exclude the inflators. Lets let them be, let them over pay and inflate their asses out of their fix. We mongers who likes to keep things standard price, we'll get more bang for the buck and enjoy ourselves.

[QUOTE=FeelsSoNice;3922815]More than half of the problem is that these idiots go out in the field with too much money on them, when all they need really is a twenty and a few ones and lock everything else in their trunk.

Not interested? Okay, no prob, some other girl will be, out you go darling, Simple as that.[/QUOTE]

My two words. It is not just SW rates. But escort / crtaigslist / BP / skipthegames / adultlook and so on sites where these girls advertise. Reading this forum in Boston area including Brockton / New Bedford / Worcester and RI areas, the rate some Mongers pay to these girls is mind blowing. Once pointed to a senior member on his posting on a rate he paid was too high for me to pay. He wrote back saying TOO BAD! I agree that I can't pay what he can afford to pay. But the point is that with Internet flourishing over past 10 years, the same girls rates have gone up 4 to 5 times. Cone on, guys. I agree with this posting about be reasonable and stay together to bring rates down to comfortable level for all of us. Some of you can afford big money like 200 for hh and 400 for hr and so on. Most of us, like myself that is a lot of money to pay regularly for release. These same (or most of the same women) were charging 50 for hr for FS and 100 for FS for hr before they became Internet Providers and their rate went up to 200-300 and so on for hr. I think SW rates should be in range of 20-50. In call provider between 19-27 age should be 75 hhr /100 hr. In call providers 30-45 age should be 50 hhr /100 for hr and so on. Frankly, there are no model types around this area as they claim to be. Model types may get 200/300 for hr. But 95% of them are not model types. So many postings lately of guys getting robbed, or short changed or fakes and liars. That is a subject for some other day. I can't understand why some of the Mongers feel so much pity for these women who sell their bodies! No one asks why she didn't go to school or have Regular job and so on. This is easy and cash money when they start and can't get out once they are in. I'm sure few are legit with difficult situation and need real help. But most do not! WE Mongers have junior jumping at times and have no control of big head at top. But paying these outrageous rates is not right either. Just because 20-35% of Mongers can afford these high rates for SW or In call services, majority of us, like me, can't afford these rates. I can't stop anyone for paying 300 for hr of FS to a girl, but please know that by doing that, you are stopping 80% of us from seeing that provider. All comments are appreciated. Thanks for reading long post.

[QUOTE=Grogrin;3923324]Feels, I stand corrected about most of these mongers that they are degenerate scrubs not at the bottom of the bucket but underneath it. I mean, if you can't convince a fucking crack head, high strung on that monkey shit, hung over like a zombie, to suck you off for $2 bills, then shit. Words can't describe how deflated your balls are, seriously.

And this is my battle here with the Captain Save a Hoes, Inflators and Gullible Idiots who are just wreaking havoc on the streets with their inflation. They're so in denial, they like to twist and make you out to be the one who's got issues because you pay cheap and refuse to be in their idiotic practice. To see a post where a Monger ask where he can find a SW that gives BBBJ for $6 bills, is just astonishing.

I really think it comes down to jealousy, never mind envy. This notion that what we do as mongers out in the field on the streets and post on here doesn't affect the mongering community, is the most selfish thing to say and act upon. The SWs know each of their actions can affect things. If we were to roll up and a group of girls were giving out Blow jobs for $10-15, other girls would call them out and say, hey, WTF are you doing, you going to make jons think we're all giving out BJ for $15 cut that shit out. AMP providers, same thing, they all follow the same line but us. For some reason, we like to go it alone and don't think that what one to several individuals do can affect us. And its been proven over again and again that some mongers actions have affected others.

From AMPs to SWs to Escorts, the Gullible Idiotic Inflators keeps inflating prices when they don't have to, empower the hoes and other mongers suffer their stupidity. They do it for no reason but to stroke a worthless ego. They come on here to brag about it like they got better treatment when in reality they didn't get shit but shot themselves in the foot. The same ones that was doing the bragging about being generous and overpaid will turn around the next week and post how so and so is charging too much now and they need to find a new fix on the cheap. I see it all the time. If you post that dumb fucking shit then why can't you get in line and follow the practice to keep things standard. I am trying to find a way to bring in together mongers who like to keep things standard and exclude the inflators. Lets let them be, let them over pay and inflate their asses out of their fix. We mongers who likes to keep things standard price, we'll get more bang for the buck and enjoy ourselves.[/QUOTE].

There are so many assumptions, generalizations and misogynistic remarks in your post, I do not know where to begin. But, since you appreciate comments, here are some comments.

You suggest what you believe to be a "comfortable level for all of us". Guess what? Everyone as a different comfort level.

You state: "No one asks why she didn't go to school or have Regular job and so on". Like-wise, no one asks you why you don't just make more money (didn't go to school? Don't have a regular job?) Given that, as you state "This is easy and cash money. ", maybe you should start doing it. Not sure how old you are, but if you're between 19-27 you could make $300 with just 3, 1 hour dates (of course, this is at the comfortable level). Once your asshole stops throbbing, you can get in touch with one of those model types!

95%, 20-35%, 80% - where do these numbers come from? That comment was rhetorical, I already know.

Seriously though, I like your train of thought here. The next time I see someone driving a 250 K Lambo, I am going to tell them that they are ruining it for the rest of us.

[QUOTE=TomWantsFun;3923453]My two words. It is not just SW rates. But escort / crtaigslist / BP / skipthegames / adultlook and so on sites where these girls advertise. Reading this forum in Boston area including Brockton / New Bedford / Worcester and RI areas, the rate some Mongers pay to these girls is mind blowing. Once pointed to a senior member on his posting on a rate he paid was too high for me to pay. He wrote back saying TOO BAD! I agree that I can't pay what he can afford to pay. But the point is that with Internet flourishing over past 10 years, the same girls rates have gone up 4 to 5 times. Cone on, guys. I agree with this posting about be reasonable and stay together to bring rates down to comfortable level for all of us. Some of you can afford big money like 200 for hh and 400 for hr and so on. Most of us, like myself that is a lot of money to pay regularly for release. These same (or most of the same women) were charging 50 for hr for FS and 100 for FS for hr before they became Internet Providers and their rate went up to 200-300 and so on for hr. I think SW rates should be in range of 20-50. In call provider between 19-27 age should be 75 hhr /100 hr. In call providers 30-45 age should be 50 hhr /100 for hr and so on. Frankly, there are no model types around this area as they claim to be. Model types may get 200/300 for hr. But 95% of them are not model types. So many postings lately of guys getting robbed, or short changed or fakes and liars. That is a subject for some other day. I can't understand why some of the Mongers feel so much pity for these women who sell their bodies! No one asks why she didn't go to school or have Regular job and so on. This is easy and cash money when they start and can't get out once they are in. I'm sure few are legit with difficult situation and need real help. But most do not! WE Mongers have junior jumping at times and have no control of big head at top. But paying these outrageous rates is not right either. Just because 20-35% of Mongers can afford these high rates for SW or In call services, majority of us, like me, can't afford these rates. I can't stop anyone for paying 300 for hr of FS to a girl, but please know that by doing that, you are stopping 80% of us from seeing that provider. All comments are appreciated. Thanks for reading long post.

.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Spill;3923532]There are so many assumptions, generalizations and misogynistic remarks in your post, I do not know where to begin. But, since you appreciate comments, here are some comments.

You suggest what you believe to be a "comfortable level for all of us". Guess what? Everyone as a different comfort level.

You state: "No one asks why she didn't go to school or have Regular job and so on". Like-wise, no one asks you why you don't just make more money (didn't go to school? Don't have a regular job?) Given that, as you state "This is easy and cash money. ", maybe you should start doing it. Not sure how old you are, but if you're between 19-27 you could make $300 with just 3, 1 hour dates (of course, this is at the comfortable level). Once your asshole stops throbbing, you can get in touch with one of those model types!.[/QUOTE]Subtitle of this post: "Wahh, Wahh for all the broke ass losers that can't keep up with "inflation".

Spill, reasoning with these idiots is impossible, about as impossible as them getting a job that pays more than $11/ hr. I always wonder if any of these pathetic broke losers (this means you Grogrin, Tom, Feels etc) has ever been with a woman who isn't a drugged out piece of street meat?

So Tom, I'll use your post as an example but I could have easily quoted Grogrin or any of the other retards that actually think we can band together and control pricing.

[QUOTE=TomWantsFun;3923453]Once pointed to a senior member on his posting on a rate he paid was too high for me to pay. He wrote back saying TOO BAD! I agree that I can't pay what he can afford to pay..[/QUOTE]His response was dead on, what you dummies fail to see is if you can't afford a girl its YOUR problem not the guy that can afford her.

[QUOTE=TomWantsFun;3923453] I agree with this posting about be reasonable and stay together to bring rates down to comfortable level for all of us..[/QUOTE]The single dumbest thing being tossed around is this insane notion that you can control prices, you can't. Here's a tip, spend less time complaining and more time working and making money. Every post you idiots put up makes me think you are using your EBT cards to fund your $20 street girls.

[QUOTE=TomWantsFun;3923453] I can't stop anyone for paying 300 for hr of FS to a girl, but please know that by doing that, you are stopping 80% of us from seeing that provider..[/QUOTE]Tom, I hate to do this but there is not a single guy here who has a well paying job who gives one single fuck if you or any loser can afford a girl. Not one. So get a better job, work more hours, better educate yourself and maybe you can take a dip in the pool one day instead of the pond.

Hello Again, Some of you got too personal and I had to reply back. First of all, I have MS in Marketing and a MBA from top 25 schools. Second, I work as a Management Consultant for a major company in Logistics and OTD (on time delivery). Third. , I make more than $160-K plus Bonuses. May not be much for many Mongers on here. I said I can't afford the rate because have kids in colleges and pay $65-K plus fees and other costs! Every Monger's situation is different regardless of income or personal situation. I'm sure some of the comment writers and other Mongers probably make much more than I do (may be in 1% income bracket), but they may not have other expenses and able to GIVE $300-400 to these women for hr of service. I wrote as a observer as well as a user of this Forum to point our that us Mongers are the ones who have RAISED their rates indirectly. Of course, one can be making $50-K a year and can still able to afford $300- for hr. But it is for not regular meets. As usual, opinions, comments are welcome. I do agree that rates are dependent on each situation and circumstances. But certain things in any market (Product and / or Services) depends on what end user customer (client) can bear regardless of true value of goods or services. With Internet, most of these same girls have raised rates 2, 3 or 4 times and of course saying High Class doesn't mean she is a High Class. Just her rates have gone up to High Class. We can discuss these forever! But the bottom line is this: girls will keep asking more and more until Market (Mongers) bounce backs and adjusts their rates. Actually, I AGREE with the rates girls have been charging in this new Internet age since some of the Mongers are willing to pay (affordability is another issue). Someone mention comfort level. You are going for a Service for a specific time and not to get married! Please do not take side for these girls just for the rates perspective only! Think from upper head! Too bad [URL]amazon.com[/URL] CAN'T provide these services (It is Illegal! Otherwise rates will collapse overnight!! My Dollars and Sense first message with rates is a TRUE value of their Services. I know that it doesn't mean anything when small head is running harder than big head at top. With that said, I think this Market will go higher and higher in near future and any Monger who can't afford In call rates then SW is the final option!

[QUOTE=SixPacking;3923762]Subtitle of this post: "Wahh, Wahh for all the broke ass losers that can't keep up with "inflation".

Spill, reasoning with these idiots is impossible, about as impossible as them getting a job that pays more than $11/ hr. I always wonder if any of these pathetic broke losers (this means you Grogrin, Tom, Feels etc) has ever been with a woman who isn't a drugged out piece of street meat?

So Tom, I'll use your post as an example but I could have easily quoted Grogrin or any of the other retards that actually think we can band together and control pricing.

His response was dead on, what you dummies fail to see is if you can't afford a girl its YOUR problem not the guy that can afford her.

The single dumbest thing being tossed around is this insane notion that you can control prices, you can't. Here's a tip, spend less time complaining and more time working and making money. Every post you idiots put up makes me think you are using your EBT cards to fund your $20 street girls.

Tom, I hate to do this but there is not a single guy here who has a well paying job who gives one single fuck if you or any loser can afford a girl. Not one. So get a better job, work more hours, better educate yourself and maybe you can take a dip in the pool one day instead of the pond.[/QUOTE].

Yes, I agree with Tom that you guys don't need to get personal.

SW and SA girls are not the same, but they all give bjs and let you stick it in, don't they? Everyone needs some love. We pay for whoever fits our wallet. If a girl asks for more than you can afford, move on. The market had set a standard price before, $100 for hr. Now some of us have the choice to stick with it, some choose not to. So be it.

Money is a big factor here. When you have more money, you get more pussies. That's a fact. No need to make it a dick measure contest.

Tommy made sixprick look like the complete fucking stupid idiot we knew he always was. You shouldve stopped at 165 k, Tommy but we understand that the moron that was a jock strap cleaner in high school needed further explaining.

I mean there you have a perfect example folls. Tom, seems to be an articulate, reasonable and intelligent man who makes sense. And then you have this dumb ass. Sixprick, a complete filth, garbage, toe fungus, pig feces, dirty vomit, pig skunk monkey. He talks out of his ass like he has a bad case of extreme diarrhea and makes no god dam sense.

To see Tommy rip him a new asshole and make him look like an imbecile after opening his mouth. Is a complete joy to see.

[QUOTE=TomWantsFun;3924637]Hello Again, Some of you got too personal and I had to reply back. First of all, I have MS in Marketing and a MBA from top 25 schools. Second, I work as a Management Consultant for a major company in Logistics and OTD (on time delivery). Third. , I make more than $160-K plus Bonuses. May not be much for many Mongers on here.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=TomWantsFun;3924637]Hello Again, Some of you got too personal and I had to reply back. First of all, I have MS in Marketing and a MBA from top 25 schools. Second, I work as a Management Consultant for a major company in Logistics and OTD (on time delivery). Third. , I make more than $160-K plus Bonuses. May not be much for many Mongers on here. I said I can't afford the rate because have kids in colleges and pay $65-K plus fees and other costs! Every Monger's situation is different regardless of income or personal situation. I'm sure some of the comment writers and other Mongers probably make much more than I do (may be in 1% income bracket), but they may not have other expenses and able to GIVE $300-400 to these women for hr of service. I wrote as a observer as well as a user of this Forum to point our that us Mongers are the ones who have RAISED their rates indirectly. Of course, one can be making $50-K a year and can still able to afford $300- for hr. But it is for not regular meets. As usual, opinions, comments are welcome. I do agree that rates are dependent on each situation and circumstances. But certain things in any market (Product and / or Services) depends on what end user customer (client) can bear regardless of true value of goods or services. With Internet, most of these same girls have raised rates 2, 3 or 4 times and of course saying High Class doesn't mean she is a High Class. Just her rates have gone up to High Class. We can discuss these forever! But the bottom line is this: girls will keep asking more and more until Market (Mongers) bounce backs and adjusts their rates. Actually, I AGREE with the rates girls have been charging in this new Internet age since some of the Mongers are willing to pay (affordability is another issue). Someone mention comfort level. You are going for a Service for a specific time and not to get married! Please do not take side for these girls just for the rates perspective only! Think from upper head! Too bad [URL]amazon.com[/URL] CAN'T provide these services (It is Illegal! Otherwise rates will collapse overnight!! My Dollars and Sense first message with rates is a TRUE value of their Services. I know that it doesn't mean anything when small head is running harder than big head at top. With that said, I think this Market will go higher and higher in near future and any Monger who can't afford In call rates then SW is the final option!

.[/QUOTE]The total market controls prices overall, not individual mongers. If demand is through the roof, then prices stay high as the providers can get higher prices due to so many wanting services. If people stop using the services, then suppliers may lower their prices to attract possible business. Demand could also be quite different by location. I'm worried about Trumpie putting tariffs on escorts form Asia and Europe which would raise prices quickly. We know he won't raise tariffs on Russian escorts, which is great because they are so freaking hot Maybe he can get Putin to flood our market with supply.

Don't like her rates? Negotiate.

Doesn't negotiate? Don't go.

Not all that hard to figure out.

[QUOTE=TomWantsFun;3923453]My two words. It is not just SW rates. But escort / crtaigslist / BP / skipthegames / adultlook and so on sites where these girls advertise. Reading this forum in Boston area including Brockton / New Bedford / Worcester and RI areas, the rate some Mongers pay to these girls is mind blowing. Once pointed to a senior member on his posting on a rate he paid was too high for me to pay. He wrote back saying TOO BAD! I agree that I can't pay what he can afford to pay. But the point is that with Internet flourishing over past 10 years, the same girls rates have gone up 4 to 5 times. Cone on, guys. I agree with this posting about be reasonable and stay together to bring rates down to comfortable level for all of us. Some of you can afford big money like 200 for hh and 400 for hr and so on. Most of us, like myself that is a lot of money to pay regularly for release. These same (or most of the same women) were charging 50 for hr for FS and 100 for FS for hr before they became Internet Providers and their rate went up to 200-300 and so on for hr. I think SW rates should be in range of 20-50. In call provider between 19-27 age should be 75 hhr /100 hr. In call providers 30-45 age should be 50 hhr /100 for hr and so on. Frankly, there are no model types around this area as they claim to be. Model types may get 200/300 for hr. But 95% of them are not model types. So many postings lately of guys getting robbed, or short changed or fakes and liars. That is a subject for some other day. I can't understand why some of the Mongers feel so much pity for these women who sell their bodies! No one asks why she didn't go to school or have Regular job and so on. This is easy and cash money when they start and can't get out once they are in. I'm sure few are legit with difficult situation and need real help. But most do not! WE Mongers have junior jumping at times and have no control of big head at top. But paying these outrageous rates is not right either. Just because 20-35% of Mongers can afford these high rates for SW or In call services, majority of us, like me, can't afford these rates. I can't stop anyone for paying 300 for hr of FS to a girl, but please know that by doing that, you are stopping 80% of us from seeing that provider. All comments are appreciated. Thanks for reading long post.

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