Independent Massage Reports

[QUOTE=RChangDatyKing;5886702]Thanks, Nine!

I love hot Latina MILF's and will definitely keep her info. Her pricing is reasonable. Sometimes a good legit massage is what I need after a good work out and training; even better when it's done by a hottie.

I remembered when another hottie Latina MILF was just therapeutic only. I was one of her first customers when she started with her signature before and after French ending and massage in between. She was at one time a top rated escort in town. I believed she still takes appointments with some of her regulars.[/QUOTE]King-.

I didn't realize she started as just therapeutic. That's always great to be there when the experience expands.

Saw this one on rubMD and thought damn those are some beautiful tig ol bitties. Texted the number and same scam, no cash only zelle or gc. I don't know about any of you but I have never prepaid before arrival or did a deposit, have anyone and not been scammed?

[URL]https://rubmd.com/san-diego-ca/1d352441-c7f3-4eff-ba74-407963d112e2[/URL]

[QUOTE=JoeBlow25;5889299]Saw this one on rubMD and thought damn those are some beautiful tig ol bitties. Texted the number and same scam, no cash only zelle or gc. I don't know about any of you but I have never prepaid before arrival or did a deposit, have anyone and not been scammed?

[URL]https://rubmd.com/san-diego-ca/1d352441-c7f3-4eff-ba74-407963d112e2[/URL][/QUOTE]Yes, I have seen a lot of these scams on snapchat. Many of them offer prices well below average, like $80 for an hour all included. I did try one where you had to verify by paying $5 to a website to make a booking. I used [URL]privacy.com[/URL] to limit the amount I could be charged. It didn't go through but they tried to hit my virtual card (with no success) about a dozen times over the next month for about $40 each time.

[QUOTE=JoeBlow25;5889299]Saw this one on rubMD and thought damn those are some beautiful tig ol bitties. Texted the number and same scam, no cash only zelle or gc. I don't know about any of you but I have never prepaid before arrival or did a deposit, have anyone and not been scammed?

[URL]https://rubmd.com/san-diego-ca/1d352441-c7f3-4eff-ba74-407963d112e2[/URL][/QUOTE]I think that's Gem Wolfie, an * model.

Visited Mara [URL]https://rubmd.com/san-diego-ca/c1b527ed-09d9-405b-9cb7-014fa839e82d[/URL] the other day. She was on time. Does massages out of a house. Honestly I thought she was cute so maybe her prices would be worth it (it wasn't). Massage was "ok" at best. Finish was not fun and mechanical. She just was not into it at all, didn't even pretend. Tried making some small talk which she did not reciprocate. Would not recommend or visit again.

I just don't get the independents and want to know if any of you see the same thing or something different. First, it takes an incredible amount of time sifting through the various sites just to find a decent provider (I tend to be quite picky, so some of that is on me). Still, it takes far more time than I care to spend on such ventures considering the results.

Then there is the break-down: you have the "OMG!" expensive GPS types (PD, Tryst, etc). There's the decent-looking babes at a reasonable price that inevitably turn out to be pay-first (deposit, cash-app, gift card) scams or the opposite: they never, ever answer the phone, message or text or the voicemail is OOC. Then there's the vast multitudes of desperate, strung-out meth chicks that no amount of sanitizing would make them a passable experience (any List Crawler site. Even the site itself is scummy). After so many pages of that it gets depressing.

Back when BackPage was going it was so much easier and I found several providers, so I know it can be done. However, in this era of post-BP, post COVID, things are most different. The independent nature of my business tends to make screening an issue, so I haven't tried the agencies (what doesn't ABC ask for? Then there's all the security precautions / devices and these pages call out. AMPs are so much simpler but I would like to get off the table.

I get the feeling most independents are really there to screw me, just not in the way I'd prefer.

Yep, prices for independents are rising faster than the housing market, so you have to adjust. Either take more risk with the low-end sites, spend more money with the higher end sites, or play less often. You didn't mention if you tried Humaniplex. That might be a good middle ground for you to find reasonably priced indies, and once you build a network, screening with agencies can be easier.

[QUOTE=MrBater;5890066]I just don't get the independents and want to know if any of you see the same thing or something different. First, it takes an incredible amount of time sifting through the various sites just to find a decent provider (I tend to be quite picky, so some of that is on me). Still, it takes far more time than I care to spend on such ventures considering the results.

Then there is the break-down: you have the "OMG!" expensive GPS types (PD, Tryst, etc). There's the decent-looking babes at a reasonable price that inevitably turn out to be pay-first (deposit, cash-app, gift card) scams or the opposite: they never, ever answer the phone, message or text or the voicemail is OOC. Then there's the vast multitudes of desperate, strung-out meth chicks that no amount of sanitizing would make them a passable experience (any List Crawler site. Even the site itself is scummy). After so many pages of that it gets depressing.

Back when BackPage was going it was so much easier and I found several providers, so I know it can be done. However, in this era of post-BP, post COVID, things are most different. The independent nature of my business tends to make screening an issue, so I haven't tried the agencies (what doesn't ABC ask for? Then there's all the security precautions / devices and these pages call out. AMPs are so much simpler but I would like to get off the table.

I get the feeling most independents are really there to screw me, just not in the way I'd prefer.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=DizzyInSD;5889960]Visited Mara [URL]https://rubmd.com/san-diego-ca/c1b527ed-09d9-405b-9cb7-014fa839e82d[/URL] the other day. She was on time. Does massages out of a house. Honestly I thought she was cute so maybe her prices would be worth it (it wasn't). Massage was "ok" at best. Finish was not fun and mechanical. She just was not into it at all, didn't even pretend. Tried making some small talk which she did not reciprocate. Would not recommend or visit again.[/QUOTE]Thanks for the review, did she give you 420 during session? Was actually planning on seeing her last week until she didn't respond to me setting up a time (responded a week later saying she wasn't feeling well).

Def not the hottest on the site, but she seemed like the type of girl who'd be more "engaged" during the session.

[QUOTE=JoeBlow25;5889299]Saw this one on rubMD and thought damn those are some beautiful tig ol bitties. Texted the number and same scam, no cash only zelle or gc. I don't know about any of you but I have never prepaid before arrival or did a deposit, have anyone and not been scammed?

[URL]https://rubmd.com/san-diego-ca/1d352441-c7f3-4eff-ba74-407963d112e2[/URL][/QUOTE]Way too many providers available to ever pay deposit, would never try it so not sure. Plus this girls a 10 and probably an insta model, no way she'd be on rubmd unless she's charging $$$ or above.

[QUOTE=MrBater;5890066]I just don't get the independents and want to know if any of you see the same thing or something different. First, it takes an incredible amount of time sifting through the various sites just to find a decent provider (I tend to be quite picky, so some of that is on me). Still, it takes far more time than I care to spend on such ventures considering the results.

Then there is the break-down: you have the "OMG!" expensive GPS types (PD, Tryst, etc). There's the decent-looking babes at a reasonable price that inevitably turn out to be pay-first (deposit, cash-app, gift card) scams or the opposite: they never, ever answer the phone, message or text or the voicemail is OOC. Then there's the vast multitudes of desperate, strung-out meth chicks that no amount of sanitizing would make them a passable experience (any List Crawler site. Even the site itself is scummy). After so many pages of that it gets depressing.

Back when BackPage was going it was so much easier and I found several providers, so I know it can be done. However, in this era of post-BP, post COVID, things are most different. The independent nature of my business tends to make screening an issue, so I haven't tried the agencies (what doesn't ABC ask for? Then there's all the security precautions / devices and these pages call out. AMPs are so much simpler but I would like to get off the table.

I get the feeling most independents are really there to screw me, just not in the way I'd prefer.[/QUOTE]I've had success with independents and never had anyone "screwed me. " I think the independents are more "willing" to open their menu when you become a repeat client and they are comfortable with you. I also do my research before scheduling with a "new" provider and read review sites like USA, T3 R, RubMD, and ask credible mongers on this forum, etc. I have many independents that I have on my rotation. Now, I mainly use RubMD or Humaniplex (HX) for my search for independents. Sometimes I'll browse EM, Adult Search as well. Yes, there were a lot more FBSM and escort ads when Backpage was up and running. With COVID and the shut down of escort sites there seems to be less providers advertising. I agree with you, IMO list crawlers has some nasty looking girls so I don't even bother. I love beautiful Asian women so yes AMPs are great because there are so many to choose from. You have nonFS and FS spas all over the county. Because I love beautiful women of all races, not just Asians I use RubMD and HX to find those hotties.

I recommend searching the independent section on this site to find what you are looking for. Good luck!

Watching this young lady's face change through her ads over the years has been fascinating. Clear plastic surgery addiction. She used to be such a pretty girl when she was working with cinder in NC. Her latest pic gives me sex android vibes.

[QUOTE=SdfitLife;5891197]Watching this young lady's face change through her ads over the years has been fascinating. Clear plastic surgery addiction. She used to be such a pretty girl when she was working with cinder in NC. Her latest pic gives me sex android vibes.[/QUOTE]I couldn't agree with you more. I was very interested in seeing her when she was with Cinder and had her on my bucket list. But man with all the work she had done on her lips, face, etc. I don't find her attractive at all anymore.

[QUOTE=SdfitLife;5891197]Watching this young lady's face change through her ads over the years has been fascinating. Clear plastic surgery addiction. She used to be such a pretty girl when she was working with cinder in NC. Her latest pic gives me sex android vibes.[/QUOTE]I actually really like her. She's super sweet to me when I see her and we always have a great time. I think she's very beautiful in person too but I have to admit I like the exaggerated look.

[QUOTE=SdfitLife;5891197]Watching this young lady's face change through her ads over the years has been fascinating. Clear plastic surgery addiction. She used to be such a pretty girl when she was working with cinder in NC. Her latest pic gives me sex android vibes.[/QUOTE]Just trying to outrace time. Definitely not a "young" lady. Unless you're 80. She does get good reviews though!

[QUOTE=RChangDatyKing;5891218]I couldn't agree with you more. I was very interested in seeing her when she was with Cinder and had her on my bucket list. But man with all the work she had done on her lips, face, etc. I don't find her attractive at all anymore.[/QUOTE]It's also possible that's a Filter on Gram. I haven't seen here in a couple years. But her eyes are not that blue and the pic looks to be altered.