The Prickyard

[QUOTE=Kitkat1;3368722]My two cents.

1) Like jjb said time and communication is very very important for all parties involved.

2) Have a safe reputable place to meet. If not your home go for a little nicer hotel. There honestly close to the same price as lower budget hotels if you use online sites like Priceline.

3) Cleanliness, no one wants to feel like they're getting sloppy seconds or like somebody just left. Your body should be clean and your space should be clean and tidy.

4) Somehow make it special like the person your meeting is the only one in the world and for that given time that person should be. It should be about an experience not a service.

5) I realize this all sounds rhetorical but jjb is right. Be caring and empathetic. Take notes if you need to but find a way to remember parts of people's lives.

6) Don't smoke, even smokers find it unattractive when someone smokes and it gets on there clothing.

7) Offer showers if needed, have clean towels and wash clothes ready. Also use unsented oils or lotions if you give body rubs. You're also better off going with a little bit higher quality products can help so that someone don't break out.

8) Always be prepared with anything you may need. All a guy should need to do is come in leave a present and get comfortable. So again things like condoms, Body Oil, lotion, towels, wet wipes, or anything else you may need to be comfortable or that is required should be provided by you.

That's all I can think of off the top of my head. I have what is dubbed the booty bag I had all my thing in it. Before a meeting I would double check everything to make sure I had plenty. So that would be my biggest advice.[/QUOTE]If I could "like" this post I would. Kat is right about the experience and the booty bag!

Dave.

Supply and Demand, different strokes for different folks. This topic is better off over in the Prickyard.

Ron BurgIndy.

[QUOTE=Covenant60;3368905]LOL you are shaming mongers? Give me a break. Do the providers give a crap about you and your failings that led you to fork over money for a piece of their ass? Puh-leeze. They have what I want. I have what they want. Period. What they do with the money I give them is not my concern. Nor is my life their concern.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=RonBurgIndy;3368937]Supply and Demand, different strokes for different folks. This topic is better off over in the Prickyard.

Ron BurgIndy.[/QUOTE]That is what I was going to say. Moving it there now.

Indy Guy.

I can't like this enough. And having meet KitKat, I can attest to her level of attention to her clientele.

Ron.

[QUOTE=Kitkat1;3368722]My two cents.

1) Like jjb said time and communication is very very important for all parties involved.

2) Have a safe reputable place to meet. If not your home go for a little nicer hotel. There honestly close to the same price as lower budget hotels if you use online sites like Priceline.

3) Cleanliness, no one wants to feel like they're getting sloppy seconds or like somebody just left. Your body should be clean and your space should be clean and tidy.

4) Somehow make it special like the person your meeting is the only one in the world and for that given time that person should be. It should be about an experience not a service.

5) I realize this all sounds rhetorical but jjb is right. Be caring and empathetic. Take notes if you need to but find a way to remember parts of people's lives.

6) Don't smoke, even smokers find it unattractive when someone smokes and it gets on there clothing.

7) Offer showers if needed, have clean towels and wash clothes ready. Also use unsented oils or lotions if you give body rubs. You're also better off going with a little bit higher quality products can help so that someone don't break out.

8) Always be prepared with anything you may need. All a guy should need to do is come in leave a present and get comfortable. So again things like condoms, Body Oil, lotion, towels, wet wipes, or anything else you may need to be comfortable or that is required should be provided by you.

That's all I can think of off the top of my head. I have what is dubbed the booty bag I had all my thing in it. Before a meeting I would double check everything to make sure I had plenty. So that would be my biggest advice.[/QUOTE]

Surprising enough (I am a prick you know) I did not post that to start a fight but I am sure I would have realized it would have if I wouldn't have had redhead homemade porn playing on the big screen at the same time. Fuck multi-tasking!

[QUOTE=TryinAgain2;3368790]Exactly why it's important not to enable once you know. The added resources from those seeing her worsened her use, no doubt.

I've really been discouraged by the lack of any concern by those continuing to report on seeing girls reportedly using. I guess I'm not surprised, but disappointed anyway. Some have stated flat out that they won't repeat after finding out, and I commend them. To the scoundrels seeking out the cheap lay despite the inevitable human cost, shame on you.[/QUOTE]We all know it happens. I am probably the 2nd most vocal person in the area on this matter but even I don't think we need to say shame on guys for it. Think as bad as you want but limit it in expression. Well atleast not bluntly! (just an opinion) If a monger sees a user, he is going to do it no matter what. I know of multiple guys on this board that openly speak against it but behind the scenes do it as much as possible and just never provide those reviews. Personally, I just say share the info that you know just like we would anything else about a provider and then let others make that CHOICE.

[QUOTE=Covenant60;3368905]LOL you are shaming mongers? Give me a break. Do the providers give a crap about you and your failings that led you to fork over money for a piece of their ass? Puh-leeze. They have what I want. I have what they want. Period. What they do with the money I give them is not my concern. Nor is my life their concern.[/QUOTE]If your child had an addiction problem of any sorts (drugs, alcohol, gambling) would you just hand them a wad of cash? I doubt it. Would you give money to your child for a legit purpose if you didn't know they fueling an addiction. Probably so. The difference here is knowledge of the issue. Ya I know someone will say it is totally different with a child but the example is meant to be clear cut. Even in this hobby, there can be standards. Ya she has what you want and vice versa but there are a large number of quality providers that are clean. The antagonists of this subject say why see a lady that is doing this for addiction when there are other providers who use it to make a true living. Not to mention that it is not very often that you here a report of a clean provider doing a cash and dash, robbery, passing out in session, etc. Also, most of your pimped out girls are addicts. Some low life piss of shit pimp / SO are controlling them for the dope. Those women get NOTHING for doing this but their fix.

Sincerely Signed,
The Biggest Prick in the Yard.

P.S. - I have said I follow several anti-drug groups. I have seen multiple former providers on these group. I say former because once they got clean they quit. They never wanted in it and resorted just for the next high. Plus I have seen the reports of a few deaths of providers. Some will say they don't care because it is their life but I for one do not want to think that I gave her the money for the high that killed her just so I could get my dick sucked.

[QUOTE=Covenant60;3368905]LOL you are shaming mongers? Give me a break. Do the providers give a crap about you and your failings that led you to fork over money for a piece of their ass? Puh-leeze. They have what I want. I have what they want. Period. What they do with the money I give them is not my concern. Nor is my life their concern.[/QUOTE]You're right, your life is of no concern to any addict provider. Neither is your health, safety or well-being. The only thing of yours that is of concern is the money in your pocket.

There's an old adage about being worth more alive than dead. With an addict any monger is worth more dead than alive, because the drug keeps them from seeing anything past the next fix.

Does that mean the addict provider will try to kill you? Nope, at least very rarely. However, when her connection sees the monger pull up in the shiny BMW and hatches a plan to rob him, do you think she'll say no?

Anytime you see a provider there are risks. With an addict, there are just a lot more risks and the risks are higher. How you spend your money is no concern of mine. I just wonder if saving $50 is worth the risk.

Like most things, the main issue is money. Addicted providers are tolerated because they drive the price down. You can reliably hire non-addicted, quality, clean, beautiful providers who will rock your socks. But they're not cheap.

The other consideration is moral consistency. If you are a monger you believe people should be allowed to do what they want with their bodies as long as no one else is harmed (or you're a hypocrite). The same logic would extend to drug use. If you want wack yourself out all the time with substance abuse I can't and wouldn't stop you. But I don't want to contribute to a bad scene, whether its addiction, abuse, or coercion. The heroin epidemic in particular is worse than I've ever seen and it makes me sick to watch these beautiful kids killing themselves.

We all know there are mongers who groom addicted girls. Not to pimp them. Just for sex. After the girls get strung out enough those guys pass them on to us bottom feeders and move on to fresher options. They are very popular mongers here. They let us lie to ourselves and say, "Sure I'm a horny sleaze but I'm not like that guy. Thanks for the referral".

On the other hand I feel no obligation to not see a girl at least once only because some anonymous poster says she's an addict. We're all addicted to something. I'll judge for myself whether I am contributing to her downfall. But then I rarely repeat anyway. I just want to fuck a wide variety of hot women before I die.

It's complicated is what I'm saying.

[QUOTE=IndyGuy123;3369021]Surprising enough (I am a prick you know) I did not post that to start a fight but I am sure I would have realized it would have if I wouldn't have had redhead homemade porn playing on the big screen at the same time. Fuck multi-tasking!

We all know it happens. I am probably the 2nd most vocal person in the area on this matter but even I don't think we need to say shame on guys for it. Think as bad as you want but limit it in expression. Well atleast not bluntly! (just an opinion) If a monger sees a user, he is going to do it no matter what. I know of multiple guys on this board that openly speak against it but behind the scenes do it as much as possible and just never provide those reviews. Personally, I just say share the info that you know just like we would anything else about a provider and then let others make that CHOICE.

If your child had an addiction problem of any sorts (drugs, alcohol, gambling) would you just hand them a wad of cash? I doubt it. Would you give money to your child for a legit purpose if you didn't know they fueling an addiction. Probably so. The difference here is knowledge of the issue. Ya I know someone will say it is totally different with a child but the example is meant to be clear cut. Even in this hobby, there can be standards. Ya she has what you want and vice versa but there are a large number of quality providers that are clean. The antagonists of this subject say why see a lady that is doing this for addiction when there are other providers who use it to make a true living. Not to mention that it is not very often that you here a report of a clean provider doing a cash and dash, robbery, passing out in session, etc. Also, most of your pimped out girls are addicts. Some low life piss of shit pimp / SO are controlling them for the dope. Those women get NOTHING for doing this but their fix.

Sincerely Signed,
The Biggest Prick in the Yard.

P.S. - I have said I follow several anti-drug groups. I have seen multiple former providers on these group. I say former because once they got clean they quit. They never wanted in it and resorted just for the next high. Plus I have seen the reports of a few deaths of providers. Some will say they don't care because it is their life but I for one do not want to think that I gave her the money for the high that killed her just so I could get my dick sucked.[/QUOTE]Well said, but I won't apologize for calling out the ones that don't care about the damage they're causing whether they say they are or keep it quiet. You sir, are NOT the biggest prick in the yard, sorry to tell you. You're level of prick is being Tsunamied by several concerning this subject.

[QUOTE=Jjbee62;3369129]You're right, your life is of no concern to any addict provider. Neither is your health, safety or well-being. The only thing of yours that is of concern is the money in your pocket.

There's an old adage about being worth more alive than dead. With an addict any monger is worth more dead than alive, because the drug keeps them from seeing anything past the next fix.

Does that mean the addict provider will try to kill you? Nope, at least very rarely. However, when her connection sees the monger pull up in the shiny BMW and hatches a plan to rob him, do you think she'll say no?

Anytime you see a provider there are risks. With an addict, there are just a lot more risks and the risks are higher. How you spend your money is no concern of mine. I just wonder if saving $50 is worth the risk.[/QUOTE]Everyone is right in a way, the points and counterpoints all jive with me. I'd prefer not to see addicts, I'd prefer to only buy American, if I make those preferences cardinal rules, than I will not be able to purchase much at all.

My body type preference makes it difficult, an average build woman can't even get me hard, so I'm stuck with the skinny, small chested ladies, and 99.9% of them have an opiate addiction, in fact, I'm certain there's no options for me that don't have an addiction. What can I do, besides not getting laid ever?

[QUOTE=TryinAgain2;3369277]You sir, are NOT the biggest prick in the yard, sorry to tell you.[/QUOTE]OK forget what originally started this discussion. Now there is a real issue here. .

[QUOTE=CooterJones;3369221]It's complicated is what I'm saying.[/QUOTE]Very well said.

Sincerely Signed,
The Biggest Prick in the Yard (no matter what TA2 says).

[QUOTE=CooterJones;3369221]We all know there are mongers who groom addicted girls. Not to pimp them. Just for sex. After the girls get strung out enough those guys pass them on to us bottom feeders and move on to fresher options. They are very popular mongers here. They let us lie to ourselves and say, "Sure I'm a horny sleaze but I'm not like that guy. Thanks for the referral".[/QUOTE]I almost feel this is directed at me.

I have several ways of finding unknowns, and the ones that are addicts (which has been most) were addicts when I found them. Out of about 20 unknowns I've played with over the past year, at least 15 are addicts, about 3 questionable, and 2 that aren't, They already had or didn't have the addiction when I found them.

It's the particular body style I like, if I was into BBW's, I'm sure I'd find a lot that are not addicts. Now Nikita, formerly known as Beauty, I met today, she's definitely an addict, however; she must not have been an addict for long, she's a little thicker than I like.

Now you guys find me an attractive skinny girl with thigh gap, small breast and a tight tummy and I'm all in.

[QUOTE=Bob0324;3369525]I almost feel this is directed at me. [/QUOTE]There are a number of big fish us small fry are following around for scraps.

[QUOTE=Bob0324;3369525]Now Nikita, formerly known as Beauty, I met today, she's definitely an addict, however; she must not have been an addict for long, she's a little thicker than I like.[/QUOTE]It sounds like she's switched her drug of choice. She's been getting arrested for cocaine since 2009.

If there is a sincere wish to help addicts and the mongers that mingle with them. I suggest utilizing the blogs below with advice on the topic. This appears to be a divisive issue that keeps getting brought back up.

If it is in a blog it will be easy to see for those that are seeking it and the narrative will stop getting reiterated to those that don't want to hear it. Win - Win.

I suggest staying away from any preachy undertones in it. Moral superiority is less persuasive than compassion.

[QUOTE=Fmlyhm1970;3369653]She wanted me to set the record straight for her concerning her alleged drug use. She said she does not do H. She only takes what she is prescribed. When I seen her she was moving and just had a mattress on the floor. Still had a great time. She is super skinny and very tight. No issues with scheduling at all.[/QUOTE]Other drugs out there but not assuming she is doing anything just saying. But that wouldn't be my main concern on this matter. Other factors I would be much more concerned about.