Rants, Raves, and Stupid Tinfoil Hat Wearing Conspiracy Bullshit

[QUOTE=JocoGuy007;6762247]

The donation, I send it via Cashapp to her "Brother" she called a woman on the phone and got the cashapp name. The donation was $160.

After all the above. BB missionary that I don't even pop to, I just stroked until I was almost done and last few pumps filled her up. She cleans up in the bathroom then I walk her out. During the visit it was very clear she was heavy into her demons. The add is a flat out lie. No Drama, No Disrespect? Both where apparent.

So she's gone now and I go to cashapp and ask for a refund due to fraud and "I didn't have my phone in my possession at the time" The mid morning of this visit I get an email from cashapp "Your money has been refunded" So I got a victory for all of us. I got my money back. My sacrifice to save all of us fellow hobbyist.[/QUOTE]I'd be pretty careful doing this. Cash app is supposed to start cracking down bigly on fraud, laundering and what not. So you reporting that might in the future trigger something you want no parts of. It's been a while since I signed up but at a certain point I had to go through some account verification steps to connect cash app to my bank account. That means they know who I really am so it's not a huge leap to think that if you reports someone for fraud, cash app might have a responsibility to disclose your real identity to that person.

[QUOTE=JoeLooking;6762401]I'd be pretty careful doing this. Cash app is supposed to start cracking down bigly on fraud, laundering and what not. So you reporting that might in the future trigger something you want no parts of. It's been a while since I signed up but at a certain point I had to go through some account verification steps to connect cash app to my bank account. That means they know who I really am so it's not a huge leap to think that if you reports someone for fraud, cash app might have a responsibility to disclose your real identity to that person.[/QUOTE]I agree with you. Not something I would have done. If you agree on a service and the service is finally performed then the agreement was fulfilled. The annoyance of all the waiting and other discussions are just things that lead to an experience you wouldn't repeat and report to other mongers to avoid.

The only way I've found to get better / lower rates is to get to know the provider, especially if you plan on seeing that one repeatedly. Expect to pay their normal rate for several sessions until they are comfortable with you. They want to be treated like a person too, and the more you get to know them the less guarded they become. For me, the ones that I've been able to get under market rates are ones that I've seen a few times and spend time talking with at some point. This does not work with all providers (nor do I expect that to happen), but when it does I don't feel like I have to save up to have some fun.

[QUOTE=JocoGuy007;6762247]
The donation, I send it via Cashapp to her "Brother" she called a woman on the phone and got the cashapp name. The donation was $160.

After all the above. BB missionary that I don't even pop to, I just stroked until I was almost done and last few pumps filled her up. She cleans up in the bathroom then I walk her out. During the visit it was very clear she was heavy into her demons. The add is a flat out lie. No Drama, No Disrespect? Both where apparent.

So she's gone now and I go to cashapp and ask for a refund due to fraud and "I didn't have my phone in my possession at the time" The mid morning of this visit I get an email from cashapp "Your money has been refunded" So I got a victory for all of us. I got my money back. My sacrifice to save all of us fellow hobbyist.[/QUOTE]Providers talk and they will share information. I can see this person potentially getting caught if this happens a few more times. I'd advise to never use cashapp or any electronic transactions for this hobby. It leaves too much of an electronic trail.

Not sure what the fallout will be but I guarantee they are pouring through phones right now. Hopefully everyone uses burners or text apps. Stay safe.

[URL]https://www.wsoctv.com/news/local/man-arrested-east-coast-prostitution-ring-that-included-carolinas/GFTBSYA3HFERLMCG7D6P2CQMFE/[/URL]

There's not a damn thing law enforcement can do to someone regarding prostitution based on what's on a provider's phone. They are not going to show up at your house to arrest you or to ask any questions.

[QUOTE=MrFrankRicard;6765787]Not sure what the fallout will be but I guarantee they are pouring through phones right now. Hopefully everyone uses burners or text apps. Stay safe.

[URL]https://www.wsoctv.com/news/local/man-arrested-east-coast-prostitution-ring-that-included-carolinas/GFTBSYA3HFERLMCG7D6P2CQMFE/[/URL][/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=ToySoldier;6765918]There's not a damn thing law enforcement can do to someone regarding prostitution based on what's on a provider's phone. They are not going to show up at your house to arrest you or to ask any questions.[/QUOTE]Several years ago LEO infiltrated a Seattle based site, tied the website owner to a brothel, arrested him and two underlings, and proceeded to out 50 or so more. They may not be able to bring charges but they most certainly can cause major embarrassment. Closer to home, military police will visit parking lots of massage parlors, jot down license plates and if any are military out the guys to their unit leadership.

[QUOTE=ToySoldier;6765918]There's not a damn thing law enforcement can do to someone regarding prostitution based on what's on a provider's phone. They are not going to show up at your house to arrest you or to ask any questions.[/QUOTE]The "system" can pretty much do what it wants. If they want you guilty, you are. Look at 91 indictments on the former President.

Do you really trust the "system?

RideNbuy;6766671 The "system" can pretty much do what it wants. If they want you guilty, you are. Look at 91 indictments on the former President.

Do you really trust the "system?

I see your example, but it doesn't show any wrongdoing by the "system. ".

[QUOTE=Wisconsing2;6766710]RideNbuy;6766671 The "system" can pretty much do what it wants. If they want you guilty, you are. Look at 91 indictments on the former President.

Do you really trust the "system?

I see your example, but it doesn't show any wrongdoing by the "system. ".[/QUOTE]I prefer to keep politics out of my hobby, so not biting on that one.

However, wanted to add that 7 years ago, when I was still married I was stopped for a brake light out. The cop ran the woman with me in the car (sugar relationship situation and we were just out on the town), and guess what, she had a prior prostitution bust, which I did not know about. I told her the cop had no right to demand her I'd as a passenger, but she gave it over anyway, uggh. He could see from the registration that I was married, so the cop pulled me out of the car and asked a bunch of questions away from the girl. I played it very cool and they got nothing incriminating. Literally the next day I'm in my office at work and the receptionist buzzes in with "Detective so and so is on the line for you. " I pick up because I think something happened to someone in my family. He says, "hey, I saw you were stopped last night with someone in the car we know and I'd like you to come in to talk about it. I figured, based on the circumstances it would be best to call you in your office vs at home. " Whoa. What I should have done was call my lawyer. What I did instead, (because I was worried about fallout and I knew they had nothing anyway) was go down to Police HQ where I just gave the detective nothing. He was pissed, but could do nothing because obviously no one saw or admitted to a crime. I asked him how he found out where I worked and it turns out. LinkedIn. As we parted in the lobby he said "Hey, I wish you told me the truth, it might have been easier on you if you had. " I had no idea what to make of that veiled threat. I had about a 40 minute commute home and in that time he had called my wife to have an 'off the record talk with her about my prostitution activities. ' Had I gotten divorced immediately at this point, and not a few years down the line, I would have sued the department. But yes, there is much they can do! They are bastards, and I still think this guy had some personal involvement, just never figured out how.

[QUOTE=Wisconsing2;6766710]RideNbuy;6766671 The "system" can pretty much do what it wants. If they want you guilty, you are. Look at 91 indictments on the former President.

Do you really trust the "system?

I see your example, but it doesn't show any wrongdoing by the "system. ".[/QUOTE]IRS, FBI, DOJ.

Do you trust the system?

[QUOTE=MmceStep;6767160]I prefer to keep politics out of my hobby, so not biting on that one.

However, wanted to add that 7 years ago, when I was still married I was stopped for a brake light out. The cop ran the woman with me in the car (sugar relationship situation and we were just out on the town), and guess what, she had a prior prostitution bust, which I did not know about. I told her the cop had no right to demand her I'd as a passenger, but she gave it over anyway, uggh. He could see from the registration that I was married, so the cop pulled me out of the car and asked a bunch of questions away from the girl. I played it very cool and they got nothing incriminating. Literally the next day I'm in my office at work and the receptionist buzzes in with "Detective so and so is on the line for you. " I pick up because I think something happened to someone in my family. He says, "hey, I saw you were stopped last night with someone in the car we know and I'd like you to come in to talk about it. I figured, based on the circumstances it would be best to call you in your office vs at home. " Whoa. What I should have done was call my lawyer. What I did instead, (because I was worried about fallout and I knew they had nothing anyway) was go down to Police HQ where I just gave the detective nothing. He was pissed, but could do nothing because obviously no one saw or admitted to a crime. I asked him how he found out where I worked and it turns out. LinkedIn. As we parted in the lobby he said "Hey, I wish you told me the truth, it might have been easier on you if you had. " I had no idea what to make of that veiled threat. I had about a 40 minute commute home and in that time he had called my wife to have an 'off the record talk with her about my prostitution activities. ' Had I gotten divorced immediately at this point, and not a few years down the line, I would have sued the department. But yes, there is much they can do! They are bastards, and I still think this guy had some personal involvement, just never figured out how.[/QUOTE]Maybe I used a bad example with the former president, since the charges, in the mind of som appear to be political and not based on law. Fortunately, we live in a country where we can speak, and have our own opinion. Apologies to anyone "offended".

[QUOTE=RideNbuy;6767220]Maybe I used a bad example with the former president, since the charges, in the mind of som appear to be political and not based on law. Fortunately, we live in a country where we can speak, and have our own opinion. Apologies to anyone "offended".[/QUOTE]You can't even post the words.

Trump.

Biden.

With nothing else and some douchebag is going to have to say something about how one is great and the other one sucks.

I moved it to the stupid shit thread.

A2.

[QUOTE=MrFrankRicard;6766633]Several years ago LEO infiltrated a Seattle based site, tied the website owner to a brothel, arrested him and two underlings, and proceeded to out 50 or so more. They may not be able to bring charges but they most certainly can cause major embarrassment. Closer to home, military police will visit parking lots of massage parlors, jot down license plates and if any are military out the guys to their unit leadership.[/QUOTE]They used to meet at Denny's once a week or so and talk really loudly about their adventures. One of the employees called the cops, they sent an undercover, then a couple of the guys were stupid enough to get involved in the business. They should have written "arrest me" on their foreheads.

They called themselves "The League" after the movie "The League of Extraordinary Gentlemen. ".

A2.

QUOTE=RideNbuy;6767215 IRS, FBI, DOJ.

Do you trust the system?

2 Masters, over 20 industry certifications and my own small corporation (not business) and I am ok with these agencies. In fact, some of my work is contracted through a couple of those agencies, plus Homeland. With the exception of Hoover's long reign at the FBI, and what has come out about him posthumously those agencies really don't bother me.

I do reserve the right to change my mind in the future!