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Traffic Stops
[QUOTE=Wiregrass;4177430]I've copied (and reposted it here) this question and answer. I found it on the Huntsville, AL. Massage board. I'm not vouching for its correctness, just saying.
Still not sure how they identified these guys. Were they caught in a sting, or was the place keeping records?
Florida has what is called "sneak and peek" warrants which allow infiltration and covert placement of video cameras. Reading what available press found, it seems there was an evacuation called in the plaza where the spa is located over a "suspicious package" (placed there by LEO). While all businesses were cleared, under the guise of a search of all establishments to clear the area the cameras were placed. I should there has been a history of less obvious methods of placing cameras as well, including after-hours infiltration.
Once cameras were in place, it was a simple matter of pulling people over after seeing them exit the establishment under whatever pretense needed. Their identities could then be established and recorded for future cross-reference against video evidence.[/QUOTE]
The articles say, just as it says above, the people were pulled over in traffic stops. In one case was a passenger, some how the driver was pulled over, and LE must have asked for his ID. Attorney's say his case seems to be on shaky ground, given a number of things, invasion of privacy, warrants, pulled over under false pretenses, etc.
He has the money and incentive to fight this, most don't and will just pay the fines.
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[QUOTE=TwoBlueBalls;4177091]Any reason you OC mongers keep referring to this place as the business close by? Can any regulars confirm if business back to normal?[/QUOTE]Yes, this Forum is monitored by LE. Last time everyone got loose lipped about this location we lost their great service. You have no idea who is asking for intel on this. In fact you don't know if I'm LE. There is more than enough intel in this thread to figure it out for those willing to scroll through. No reason to hand it over to newbies with only a few posts. Just my opinion.
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[QUOTE=TwoBlueBalls;4177091]Any reason you OC mongers keep referring to this place as the business close by? Can any regulars confirm if business back to normal?[/QUOTE]It's also a bit of an idiot test. If you can't scroll through this thread and figure it out you are lazy and don't deserve to know.
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Wasn't the sneek and peek part of the Patriot act to stop terrorist. Looks like another violation of privacy rights of the American people.
[QUOTE=Wiregrass;4177430]I've copied (and reposted it here) this question and answer. I found it on the Huntsville, AL. Massage board. I'm not vouching for its correctness, just saying.
Still not sure how they identified these guys. Were they caught in a sting, or was the place keeping records?
Florida has what is called "sneak and peek" warrants which allow infiltration and covert placement of video cameras. Reading what available press found, it seems there was an evacuation called in the plaza where the spa is located over a "suspicious package" (placed there by LEO). While all businesses were cleared, under the guise of a search of all establishments to clear the area the cameras were placed. I should there has been a history of less obvious methods of placing cameras as well, including after-hours infiltration.
Once cameras were in place, it was a simple matter of pulling people over after seeing them exit the establishment under whatever pretense needed. Their identities could then be established and recorded for future cross-reference against video evidence.[/QUOTE]
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Valid
[QUOTE=Jw112;4178825]It's also a bit of an idiot test. If you can't scroll through this thread and figure it out you are lazy and don't deserve to know.[/QUOTE]That's exactly what I thought with your first response. You're not throwing LEO or anyone off other than lazy idiots. Appreciate this 2nd response.
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[URL]https://reason.com/blog/2019/03/04/sneak-and-peek-warrant-for-florida-sting/amp[/URL]
[QUOTE=Incognito22;4178198]Wiregrass:
According to NYP article I posted:
According to Robert Kraft's lawyer:
There's also no proof in the affidavit that he solicited anything from the women. It is possible that this could have been a legal and consensual act between adults and there does not seem to be evidence to prove otherwise. So the facts supporting a misdemeanor charge of solicitation really don't jump out at you.
Second, the video was probably not legally obtained, the police seemed to ignore the necessity requirement for such an intrusive measure like planting a camera in the premises. (The law stipulates police should only seek warrants for surveillance cameras if no other evidence is available to support their case, so Kraft's lawyers could argue the video footage is not legal and an invasion of privacy).
And third, I doubt the traffic stop was legal either. So the evidence will likely be suppressed (by Kraft's legal team) if there is ever a trial.
They did not have the evidence required to legally install the camera's. Second the way they identified the people in the tape was to pull them over for fake traffic violations then sweat them into confessing.
In short, this was illegal surveillance and if the John's did not incriminate themselves uncle LEO would have no real case. Do not talk to the police. Fair warning though, if they read you your rights, they will hold you the maximum time they legally can to sweat a confession out of you. If they have arrested you, you'll have to think about how long you can afford to spend in holding. Then offer to sign a confession written by the cop, if they agree in writing to release you without bond if you sign. Then you can always later use that to argue they colluded the confession out of you. Also, you can use a threat to seize your property as compulsion to sign a confession. This varies state to state though.[/QUOTE]
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Recent Experience
Anyone have recent experience at the place across the street from F&C? I read back a ways (and maybe missed it) but it's also a difficult name to search, since it's so short. Also, is that shop on IG? Thanks!
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Kim
Newbie here, thought I made my mark by posting my latest experience. Forgive me if I didn't use the correct acronym.
Went to a Korean owned massage in Brea. Pay for a 45 minutes massage with table shower, my specialist is a chubby women with a hoarse voice with a few cough here and there. She's probably in her mid 40. No my type of girl, I like small petite super model looking girls, like the fake girl pictures posted on every ads, who doesn't? Because of her physique she has a very large set of breasts, I'm no expert, but I say larger then E.
This is my first table shower, so it was an interesting experience, normally at the other AMP they just wipe you down with a hot towel and called it that. But at this place, she had me lay down on a table and shower me with hot water while lather me up with soap, she pay additional attention to my butt, specifically between the cheeks. Rinse me off and ask me flip over, she ask if I mind she washing my private, at this point I had not decided if I want anything more than a massage and good hot shower from her, but I figure why limit my options. Gave her the go ahead and she proceed to give me a good scrub.
Down to the massage, It was actually pretty decent, she was sitting on me at a few point, she is heavy, but not uncomfortable. She was talkative and we made light conversation, she actually got a few good belly laugh out of me and certainly improve the mood a little. After the the flip over she did a few light touch and went right own to business of asking for tip. We negotiated back and forth a little and settled on a price. I opted for HJ.
Her technique was good, she started with my balls and slowly stroke me. I didn't feel rushed like the other places I go to. After a few good minutes of mid pressure stroke I was beginning to enjoy myself, she then guided both my hands, one onto her butt and one onto her breast, I didn't linger there, I was to focus my attention elsewhere. She spend a lot of time massage the area below my balls and I told her that feels good but I want more. She then proceed to lube up her finger and went to town.
Lets just say I left a mark on the ceiling.
This place is pricier then the other place I visited, 45 minutes massage with table shower was. 8, I tipped her another. 8 for her loving hands.
Hope this was helpful.
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Chloe v kat
Although I've all but given up on HS, sapphire did have its gems. Deciding whether to give Chloe (same level of expertice as Krystal), or Kat (firework) a go?
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Kat
[QUOTE=Tipisil;4179572]Although I've all but given up on HS, sapphire did have its gems. Deciding whether to give Chloe (same level of expertice as Krystal), or Kat (firework) a go?[/QUOTE]I have not seen Chloe. But I could always recommend to see Kat.
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[QUOTE=Tipisil;4179572]Although I've all but given up on HS, sapphire did have its gems. Deciding whether to give Chloe (same level of expertice as Krystal), or Kat (firework) a go?[/QUOTE]Kat is the winner of those two in my opinion. But they are both are very good. Schedules / locations vary a little for both. Kat used me as her scratching post yesterday, heh heh.
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CM Agency
So, about a year and a half ago, I was seeing a woman named Angela for massage who hosted out of a business complex in CM. Super discreet, which I really liked. There were other rooms in the office, but she advertised as an independent, so I figured maybe an agency or a group of indies got together and rented an office to work out of. I actually ran into her at a local coffee shop and she was rolling in a nice Mercedes. Good for her!
Anyway, $. 65 flat rate for an hr nude massage and we never discussed extras beyond HJ, I was happy with what I was getting. Anyway, I'm not down that way anymore, but was wondering if she was still working, so I texted her. She's out of the game, but gave me a booking agent's number who I then contacted. Rate is still the same and it sounds like they do have a few ladies available. Happy to share the number if anyone would like to message me. Would love to exchange for any info on a Krystal or Kat type of experience in the Pasadena or LA area, if anyone knows. Thanks!
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Former Lucky Spa
[QUOTE=SlappySalami;4164541]It seems the former Lucky Spa on Katella and Knott (behind Del Taco) has re-opened under the name KK Spa and Massage.
Hopefully somebody will TOFTT and see what is up over there.[/QUOTE]Called and it didn't seem like the same staff as the former Lucky Spa. But hopefully will take a look next weekend.
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So I had to go to CSUF today (Wednesday), and hell, might as well drop by [URL=https://www.yelp.com/biz/fullerton-spa-fullerton-2]the spa[/URL]. Didn't get her name, but got a skinny-fat Chinese MILF probably in her 40's. Fucked her good. Shitty massage, a little teasing, sign language for the goodies, BBBJ, CFS, DATY, and DATO. Had a little baby sag in the belly but not bad. Not for people who likem young or super fit. For people who want a chick who can take a pounding hahahaha. I played with her butthole and sucked on it quite a bit and noticed she had that little flap that either comes from straining or too much anal sex... asked her if she took it in the ass, but nope hahahaha. Oh well a man can dream.
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Cal state.
[QUOTE=HowdyDoody32;4180477]So I had to go to CSUF today (Wednesday), and hell, might as well drop by [URL=https://www.yelp.com/biz/fullerton-spa-fullerton-2]the spa[/URL]. Didn't get her name, but got a skinny-fat Chinese MILF probably in her 40's. Fucked her good. Shitty massage, a little teasing, sign language for the goodies, BBBJ, CFS, DATY, and DATO. Had a little baby sag in the belly but not bad. Not for people who likem young or super fit. For people who want a chick who can take a pounding hahahaha. I played with her butthole and sucked on it quite a bit and noticed she had that little flap that either comes from straining or too much anal sex... asked her if she took it in the ass, but nope hahahaha. Oh well a man can dream.[/QUOTE]Entertaining report, sir.
BTW that "little flap" is called hemorrhoids.