Massage Parlor Reports

[QUOTE=Member#4063;2521450]This from the Boston Herald today, the use of "trafficing" is now bandied about by anybody who doesn't like the concept of the AMP. It has been said many times on many forums, the vast vast majority of AMP ladies are 30+ and are there by choice. Many have been doing it for a very long time and some have accumulated a significant income.

[URL]http://www.bostonherald.com/news_opinion/local_coverage/2015/06/massage_parlors_exploiting_loophole[/URL][/QUOTE]To me, the reasons why LE focuses on "trafficking" are as follows: 1. Some girls are indeed victims at some places, some of the time; 2. Post 9-11 we have over funded the LE / military / defence / anti drug / industrial cabal; 3. The possible victims are often hiding in plain sight, within the four walls of storefronts; 4. Raids involving guys with agency jackets, warrants and flashing lights convince the public that our tax dollars are being used to "fight crime;" 5. It is easier for enforcement to target so called trafficking than it is to go after the true criminals -- I. E. The bank fraudsters who brought us to the worst economic collapse since the Depression. (How many people were jailed as a result of that? One.) 6. Anti-Asian bias / racism. That's the American Way. ; 7. The centuries long tension between lust / eroticism on the one hand and hypocritical Puritan values on the other.

Just like the Marijuana thing, changing attitudes about puritanical mores and sex-for-pay is going to require a large group of voters saying publicly, in a palatable way, that we.

Do not want the government getting involved in who has sex with who.

There has to be a message that can everyone can get behind, or at least one that the morality squad won't go on record against.

"Sick people should not be denied their medecine" is what the pot folks did.

"Prostitution is not a crime" or "Who we have sex with is nobody's business but our own" or "Its not fair to make criminals out of sex workers".

And people need to write this on paper and mail it to state congress, town selectman, Attorneys general, and make it hard for them to shame everyone into.

Denying they would ever get a happy ending.

I have written a number of letters to the Providence city council, and the Lowell Sun (which regularly shames johns).

You should to.

[QUOTE=Spectator;2522799]Just like the Marijuana thing, changing attitudes about puritanical mores and sex-for-pay is going to require a large group of voters saying publicly, in a palatable way, that we.

Do not want the government getting involved in who has sex with who.

There has to be a message that can everyone can get behind, or at least one that the morality squad won't go on record against.

"Sick people should not be denied their medecine" is what the pot folks did.

"Prostitution is not a crime" or "Who we have sex with is nobody's business but our own" or "Its not fair to make criminals out of sex workers".

And people need to write this on paper and mail it to state congress, town selectman, Attorneys general, and make it hard for them to shame everyone into.

Denying they would ever get a happy ending.

I have written a number of letters to the Providence city council, and the Lowell Sun (which regularly shames johns).

You should to.[/QUOTE]Trouble is, they aren't legislating based on out-dated mores. They cannot. What they can legislate upon is the health and well-being of the public: disease and human trafficking / slavery. The marijuana argument is different. It has a demonstrable medical benefit. What is a better analogy is abortion. It was not outlawed because it was immoral or murder, but because it was dangerous. Women were dying from abortions for various reasons related to medical technology. The laws changed when medical technology made abortions safe. Read Roe v. Wade and Planned Parenthood v. Case (which affirmed Roe). In the instant matter we have numerous STDs of varying severity and curability coupled with slavery. Potential harms to the public's health and well-being. If they legalized, it would likely be as Nevada did. Lots of restrictions. And have you seen brothel prices? F* that! That's what they make porn for.

Wow. Wow. Wow. Best place in Waltham. There is brown paper up in the front window, and there is no sign, so it looks closed. But once inside, the place is actually very nice, clean, and large. However, the walls do not go to the top. The other major drawback is that the main entrance is right on Moody Street, so it's a bit risky in terms of being seen. But that's it in terms of problems. Otherwise, the massage was FANTASTIC. I drew Yo-Yo, and she was hot-hot. The massage started out IMMEDIATELY with a soft touch / teasing, and then she mixed medium with soft touch through the whole thing. Lots of roaming available, and even encouraged. Easy access top and bottom. Yo-Yo has an absolutely beautiful, perfect, natural, but well-manicured kitty. A-cup with long nips. She introduced me to Ci-Ci on the way out, who looks just as hot, but perhaps a bit younger. I will definitely repeat. 40/40 for the half.

[QUOTE=BlamboMcGee;2522282]The notion that AMP ladies remember tips and tippers is not just an abstraction; it is true. I have found that AMP ladies share basically as much intell about us as we do about them. I have had AMP ladies ask me why I tipped them less than I tipped a lady at a place in the next town. I have had them ask me why I have been going to other places instead of their own. On the plus side of this, for me, I have also had AMP ladies suddenly change their style to better suit me, clearly based on something another lady at another place had told them. Think of it this way: Many of us on the Forum have PM buddies with whom we often share insights and opinions; so do they. The girls have very long memories for customers who are rude, pushy, cheap and especially, have poor personal hygiene. (This last point should be obvious, right?) The ladies are all competitors, but friendly competitors in many cases. They know the prevailing tip scale for varied services and they know precisely what services are available, where.[/QUOTE]I'm glad there is at least one old timer that has my backside. LOL I know it is hard for those 'newbies' to wrap their head around it but these ladies really do / have / are an entity among themselves. First of all most of them are / were / or are related to someone who lived in Flushing. Just take a gander through some of the reports and you will find 'Flushing' repeated many times. BTW. Would love to visit there some day just to see all these ladies in their 'natural surroundings'. And the 'competition' really isn't a concern among the ladies. Maybe the owners although you will find fewer owners of all these places than you think. They stick together, move around and talk within their little groups for if anything their safety. So be good to them. And they will be good to you. And thanks again Bm. Talk to you on the other side. SO.

SO is correct, I have been a customer of Pleasant St. For quite a while. When my two ATFs left, Cici and Gina, Gina staying a year plus longer, the new girls knew all about me as to what I liked and how much did I tip. While that is the same spa I am very sure they all talk as again SO is correct, they come from Flushing and are predominantly Korean.

Jack.

[QUOTE=Handjobluvr;2522843]Wow. Wow. Wow. Best place in Waltham. There is brown paper up in the front window, and there is no sign, so it looks closed. But once inside, the place is actually very nice, clean, and large. However, the walls do not go to the top. The other major drawback is that the main entrance is right on Moody Street, so it's a bit risky in terms of being seen. But that's it in terms of problems. Otherwise, the massage was FANTASTIC. I drew Yo-Yo, and she was hot-hot. The massage started out IMMEDIATELY with a soft touch / teasing, and then she mixed medium with soft touch through the whole thing. Lots of roaming available, and even encouraged. Easy access top and bottom. Yo-Yo has an absolutely beautiful, perfect, natural, but well-manicured kitty. A-cup with long nips. She introduced me to Ci-Ci on the way out, who looks just as hot, but perhaps a bit younger. I will definitely repeat. 40/40 for the half.[/QUOTE]Thanks for the review. I might head over there since the RI fiasco. Do you know if these girls are Korean or Chinese? I've been looking for a Korean place for a while.

No 3 input at star in Quincy.

[QUOTE=FourNik8;2523870]Thanks for the review. I might head over there since the RI fiasco. Do you know if these girls are Korean or Chinese? I've been looking for a Korean place for a while.[/QUOTE]What happened in RI?

[QUOTE=Katokay;2524027]No 3 input at star in Quincy.[/QUOTE]You referring to the 3 holes comment?

[QUOTE=Handjobluvr;2522843]Wow. Wow. Wow. Best place in Waltham. There is brown paper up in the front window, and there is no sign, so it looks closed. But once inside, the place is actually very nice, clean, and large. However, the walls do not go to the top. The other major drawback is that the main entrance is right on Moody Street, so it's a bit risky in terms of being seen. But that's it in terms of problems. Otherwise, the massage was FANTASTIC. I drew Yo-Yo, and she was hot-hot. The massage started out IMMEDIATELY with a soft touch / teasing, and then she mixed medium with soft touch through the whole thing. Lots of roaming available, and even encouraged. Easy access top and bottom. Yo-Yo has an absolutely beautiful, perfect, natural, but well-manicured kitty. A-cup with long nips. She introduced me to Ci-Ci on the way out, who looks just as hot, but perhaps a bit younger. I will definitely repeat. 40/40 for the half.[/QUOTE]On the other hand, Ci-Ci, zero roaming, 10 second pre-flip tease and streamroll to the finish line. So YMMV.

[QUOTE=DontFailMeNow;2524151]What happened in RI?[/QUOTE]They shut down all the AMP's and took the owners to court. A couple more spas sprung up a few weeks later and were also shut down. I think there's a couple FS spas still standing but that's about it. It's too bad because ri spas were a whole different world compared to ma. Hopefully I can find a decent one with a K girl.

[QUOTE=Katokay;2524027]No 3 input at star in Quincy.[/QUOTE]I was here here week and not likely going back.

Walked in and was lead to large room with just a table in it. Thought it was odd and too bright. Requested an hour and waited on table a solid 10 minutes with door left open. Session started. Then she left. Then comes back and said, "only half hour, too busy" Gives me $10 back which I thought was BS to begin with. Then there were 4 other phone calls during session. I apologize for not getting a name but it was noon time and she was the only one there. Session ended appropriately but I don't see myself going back unless I hear otherwise. She suggested I come back to see someone else so we shall see.

Peace.

[QUOTE=Herow;2524258]On the other hand, Ci-Ci, zero roaming, 10 second pre-flip tease and streamroll to the finish line. So YMMV.[/QUOTE]I had a similar experience with CiCi. A little roaming downstairs, but the panties were thick and tight. Else, the massage wasn't bad. No tease, really. Not a bad finish, but I watched her fold the towel she'd used on me and put it back on the table after she changed the paper. Ick. The place is nice inside, but as has been reported, the walls don't reach the ceiling. Whomever wandered in around 8:15 on Friday night, it was like you were in the room with me. Heard every word. And I was in one of the rear rooms! I don't see myself repeating.

The girls, Cici at least, are Chinese.

[QUOTE=FourNik8;2524361]They shut down all the AMP's and took the owners to court. A couple more spas sprung up a few weeks later and were also shut down. I think there's a couple FS spas still standing but that's about it. It's too bad because ri spas were a whole different world compared to ma. Hopefully I can find a decent one with a K girl.[/QUOTE]Are the shutdowns still confined to Providence or have the other towns followed suit?