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[QUOTE=PwHerman;2517647]And.
Finally
So, did you negotiate upfront? And before you answer I will add that I know the girl and she is sweet and doubt she would take $20 willingly.[/QUOTE]If you lady leaves the room 3 times and on top of that she accidentally allows another monger to peek at you from the outside, then 20 tip is more than generous.
I was stressed over this unpleasant situation and my tip reflected it.
Reduce the volume, improve the experience and a better tip will follow.
-BH.
[QUOTE=BigHead;2519806]If you lady leaves the room 3 times and on top of that she accidentally allows another monger to peek at you from the outside, then 20 tip is more than generous.
I was stressed over this unpleasant situation and my tip reflected it.
Reduce the volume, improve the experience and a better tip will follow.
-BH.[/QUOTE]Here are my rules in general.
Massage No Finish Told to DIY - $0 (that's an insult in my book).
Massage No Finish - 10.
Massage Finish - 40 (90%.
Massage Finish Less Clothing and Mutual Contact - 60 (10%.
There have been times I have tipped more because the service was unreal, but those are far and few in between. There are girls that I am regular with and I always tip a little more because of the continued good service. I do like variety though, which is one of the reasons I do what I do.
Howdy gents and ladies. SO here. Yes it has been awhile. Actually a long while. Several years. Been trying to pay for college and recovering from more than a few old age ailments. Got so depressed haven't really been keeping up with things so now that I am somewhat up and around I thought I'd ask for some advice and tips. Now before everyone gets all up in arms I've been around for 30 years and been given plenty of advice over the years so just looking for some in return.
Anyway. Looking for something place on the local side to start with. I knew there were a couple of places in Randolph. One has been around for quite awhile (upstairs in a house) and consisted of a couple of older ladies that gave a decent massage and (usually) a release and if lucky got under the underwire. The other was on the newer side at the font of a strip mall parking lot in basically a dump of a building. I had gone there several times and gotten anything from a decent massage / HJ on my first set of visits to a basic no massage / FS session. So any ideas on these two would be helpful.
Since I'm just south of Boston if anyone has any suggestions in the Quincy / Braintree area please let me know. If you want to avoid the ire of anyone on here you can do it offline. Thanks from a long timer! SO.
Met May. She was one of the two girls. The other one Lee was better looking though. Regular service. Neither good nor bad. The plus point was that the service was performed twice in an hour long session. Regular 60+40.
Howdy gents and ladies. SO here. Yes it has been awhile. Actually a long while. Several years. Been trying to pay for college and recovering from more than a few old age ailments. Got so depressed haven't really been keeping up with things so now that I am somewhat up and around I thought I'd ask for some advice and tips. Now before everyone gets all up in arms I've been around for 30 years and been given plenty of advice over the years so just looking for some in return.
Anyway. Looking for something place on the local side to start with. I knew there were a couple of places in Randolph. One has been around for quite awhile (upstairs in a house) and consisted of a couple of older ladies that gave a decent massage and (usually) a release and if lucky got under the underwire. The other was on the newer side at the font of a strip mall parking lot in basically a dump of a building. I had gone there several times and gotten anything from a decent massage / HJ on my first set of visits to a basic no massage / FS session. So any ideas on these two would be helpful.
Since I'm just south of Boston if anyone has any suggestions in the Quincy / Braintree area please let me know. If you want to avoid the ire of anyone on here you can do it offline. Thanks from a long timer! SO.
Good to see you are back and feeling better. I think Angel is still around and I always liked Susie out on route 20 in Marlboro.
Jack.
[QUOTE=Adobe;2517380]
Constantly interrupted. I'd probably tip 30 in a situation like that. If there was no UTC roaming, lots of interruptions, and just a quick. But well performed - 5-minute happy ending. To me, the 20 sounds a little low, but if.
Adobe.[/QUOTE]If you lift your head and see another customer staring at you through that open door, then no tip should be granted no matter how good the HE was.
Her responsibility number one is guarding your privacy. This is far more important than any other services she can provide.
I stand by my generous decision to give her 20, and not a penny more.
-BH.
[QUOTE=BigHead;2520341]If you lift your head and see another customer staring at you through that open door, then no tip should be granted no matter how good the HE was.
Her responsibility number one is guarding your privacy. This is far more important than any other services she can provide.
I stand by my generous decision to give her 20, and not a penny more.
-BH.[/QUOTE]You are that guy!
What I mean is you look for any reason to, in your own head, justify leaving a shitty tip. My guess is this extends to your real life as well, shorting the delivery guy because he stepped on your lawn, the waitress because you saw her texting instead of fawning over you, etc.
So another monger saw you, so what? Trust me that he didn't want to and now has to carry the burden of that vision, you on the table, with him. If there is a victim here it is him. Also, why not just leave, take your lumps and show your dissatisfaction by dressing and leaving? Yes you eat the house fee but it sends the right message, unlike what you did.
Lastly, as I said, I know the girl you stiffed and will visit her today or tomorrow. Since I know when you went hopefully she will remember you and I will let her know of your tipping habits. Of course she won't tell the other girls so perhaps you can try one of them. LOL.
[QUOTE=PwHerman;2521038]You are that guy!
What I mean is you look for any reason to, in your own head, justify leaving a shitty tip. My guess is this extends to your real life as well, shorting the delivery guy because he stepped on your lawn, the waitress because you saw her texting instead of fawning over you, etc.
So another monger saw you, so what? Trust me that he didn't want to and now has to carry the burden of that vision, you on the table, with him. If there is a victim here it is him. Also, why not just leave, take your lumps and show your dissatisfaction by dressing and leaving? Yes you eat the house fee but it sends the right message, unlike what you did.
Lastly, as I said, I know the girl you stiffed and will visit her today or tomorrow. Since I know when you went hopefully she will remember you and I will let her know of your tipping habits. Of course she won't tell the other girls so perhaps you can try one of them. LOL.[/QUOTE]You liked the experience you had with this lady and you want to come back, so you gave her the full tip. I was unhappy about some of her conduct and I gave less, that simple. For me facing another monger while nude on the table is unacceptable, for you it may be OK.
-BH.
[QUOTE=Herow;2519597]
On other other hand, if a cute 20 something gives you an ending you think is excellent and you tip 20, you are just a scumbag. [/QUOTE]What does the age or looks have to do with anything? The only factor here is your satisfaction. My experience with this lady was less pleasant then with some others and I paid her less. There are different ways to run a business, her business model did not work for me, it worked well for PW.
-BH.
Thanks Jack. Good to be back at least for a quick one. Good to see the topics haven't changed. Tips tips and tits. LOL.
[QUOTE=Member#4063;2520171]Howdy gents and ladies. SO here. Yes it has been awhile. Actually a long while. Several years. Been trying to pay for college and recovering from more than a few old age ailments. Got so depressed haven't really been keeping up with things so now that I am somewhat up and around I thought I'd ask for some advice and tips. Now before everyone gets all up in arms I've been around for 30 years and been given plenty of advice over the years so just looking for some in return.
Anyway. Looking for something place on the local side to start with. I knew there were a couple of places in Randolph. One has been around for quite awhile (upstairs in a house) and consisted of a couple of older ladies that gave a decent massage and (usually) a release and if lucky got under the underwire. The other was on the newer side at the font of a strip mall parking lot in basically a dump of a building. I had gone there several times and gotten anything from a decent massage / HJ on my first set of visits to a basic no massage / FS session. So any ideas on these two would be helpful.
Since I'm just south of Boston if anyone has any suggestions in the Quincy / Braintree area please let me know. If you want to avoid the ire of anyone on here you can do it offline. Thanks from a long timer! SO.
Good to see you are back and feeling better. I think Angel is still around and I always liked Susie out on route 20 in Marlboro.
Jack.[/QUOTE]
To preface my comments what you tip isn't a concern to me unless I'm one of her next few clients in which you have pissed her off and I will pay. And pay dearly. But I've been in this game since back in the mid 70's when it was much simpler. The days of the spas in Fresh Pond, Cambridge and Lowell. The days of American masseuses where service was good, the tip fair and repeat business was the name of the game.
But here is a word of wisdom or two. And you can take it or leave it. The ladies in the game nowadays don't disappear. They move around, change names or they go away for a bit just to return. And they may forget a name but they remember the face especially if you've done them an injustice. And yes they talk. To each other and their fellow ladies much more than you think. So the lady that you've stiffed might be the lady you walk into see a week or a month later in a totally different place. So is that 20 buck tip that you withheld worth it when you've laid down that 60 just to see her walk in again?
And just to reiterate the point. I've been gone (more or less) for 2 years now and my good friends that pm'd me gave me some names and places that my faves worked at before I left. And most of them have moved around. Quincy, Waltham, Braintree Boston and all points within are just one big mp family. Of course on the other hand an extra 10 buck tip has gotten me a lot of xtra lovin with some ladies on future visits.
So take the advice, debate the advice or ignore it. No matter to me. But many times the adventure you go on is from the seed you have sown. SO.
[QUOTE=PwHerman;2521038]You are that guy!
What I mean is you look for any reason to, in your own head, justify leaving a shitty tip. My guess is this extends to your real life as well, shorting the delivery guy because he stepped on your lawn, the waitress because you saw her texting instead of fawning over you, etc.
So another monger saw you, so what? Trust me that he didn't want to and now has to carry the burden of that vision, you on the table, with him. If there is a victim here it is him. Also, why not just leave, take your lumps and show your dissatisfaction by dressing and leaving? Yes you eat the house fee but it sends the right message, unlike what you did.
Lastly, as I said, I know the girl you stiffed and will visit her today or tomorrow. Since I know when you went hopefully she will remember you and I will let her know of your tipping habits. Of course she won't tell the other girls so perhaps you can try one of them. LOL.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=StressedOut;2521292]To preface my comments what you tip isn't a concern to me unless I'm one of her next few clients in which you have pissed her off and I will pay. And pay dearly. But I've been in this game since back in the mid 70's when it was much simpler. The days of the spas in Fresh Pond, Cambridge and Lowell. The days of American masseuses where service was good, the tip fair and repeat business was the name of the game.
But here is a word of wisdom or two. And you can take it or leave it. The ladies in the game nowadays don't disappear. They move around, change names or they go away for a bit just to return. And they may forget a name but they remember the face especially if you've done them an injustice. And yes they talk. To each other and their fellow ladies much more than you think. So the lady that you've stiffed might be the lady you walk into see a week or a month later in a totally different place. So is that 20 buck tip that you withheld worth it when you've laid down that 60 just to see her walk in again?
And just to reiterate the point. I've been gone (more or less) for 2 years now and my good friends that pm'd me gave me some names and places that my faves worked at before I left. And most of them have moved around. Quincy, Waltham, Braintree Boston and all points within are just one big mp family. Of course on the other hand an extra 10 buck tip has gotten me a lot of xtra lovin with some ladies on future visits.
So take the advice, debate the advice or ignore it. No matter to me. But many times the adventure you go on is from the seed you have sown. SO.[/QUOTE]The sole purpose of this board is to provide honest information about your experiences, not to pass judgements about other members' preferences, tips, etc. Some give very generous tips no matter what, some do not. I gave you my justifications for giving a lower tip, no personal attacks should follow it. Some found my review useful, some not, just move on and try to contribute.
-BH.
[QUOTE=BigHead;2521377]The sole purpose of this board is to provide honest information about your experiences, not to pass judgements about other members' preferences, tips, etc. Some give very generous tips no matter what, some do not. I gave you my justifications for giving a lower tip, no personal attacks should follow it. Some found my review useful, some not, just move on and try to contribute.
-BH.[/QUOTE]Now I know why I stopped posting before I went on hiatus. This wasn't a personal attack on you or anyone else. No names were mentioned and I didn't refute any of your 'justifications' like others did in previous posts on your review. I merely 'contributed' as you suggested I do and gave some long learned advice to the masses. If you don't like my advice then ' move on and don't pass judgment" on my advice or my reasons for doing it or my preferences for why I do it or whether you find it useful or not. I'm too old, too tired and have been around too long to get into this bs with you or anyone else here. SO.
This from the Boston Herald today, the use of "trafficing" is now bandied about by anybody who doesn't like the concept of the AMP. It has been said many times on many forums, the vast vast majority of AMP ladies are 30+ and are there by choice. Many have been doing it for a very long time and some have accumulated a significant income.
[URL]http://www.bostonherald.com/news_opinion/local_coverage/2015/06/massage_parlors_exploiting_loophole[/URL]
The notion that AMP ladies remember tips and tippers is not just an abstraction; it is true. I have found that AMP ladies share basically as much intell about us as we do about them. I have had AMP ladies ask me why I tipped them less than I tipped a lady at a place in the next town. I have had them ask me why I have been going to other places instead of their own. On the plus side of this, for me, I have also had AMP ladies suddenly change their style to better suit me, clearly based on something another lady at another place had told them. Think of it this way: Many of us on the Forum have PM buddies with whom we often share insights and opinions; so do they. The girls have very long memories for customers who are rude, pushy, cheap and especially, have poor personal hygiene. (This last point should be obvious, right?) The ladies are all competitors, but friendly competitors in many cases. They know the prevailing tip scale for varied services and they know precisely what services are available, where.