"Sugarbabies" / "Arrangements" Amateurs or Not?

[QUOTE=EBob1111;4624969]I started up with a 30-something year old SB about a month and a half ago. When we first started chatting she said she really wasn't looking for a monetary arrangement, just someone who she could spend quality time with and if I wanted to give her a gift from time to time she wouldn't be opposed to it. Over a month and a half we actually only ended up seeing each other four times. An initial meet, two trips to the FC, and one quick car date. At one point I paid for a trip to the hair salon, and I bought her some lingerie online and had it mailed to her house as a gift (big mistake). Last week she said she wanted a more traditional SB relationship so I asked what she had in mind. She said I should propose what I think she is worth once a week. I said that wasn't what she said she was looking for when we met and probably wasn't something I could afford, no hard feelings.

A week later this morning, she texts me that I used her and that she's going to mail the lingerie set along with texts and pics to the address on the shipping slip for my wife to see. Of course I texted back why would she want to try to ruins my children's lives over this, but no reply from her. She doesn't know my wife's name so I can certainly be on the lookout to head off any strange packages to my house but wondering if she's really serious or what else she has up her sleeve and what should I do or not to do try to prevent real damage.[/QUOTE]Send her the laws on blackmail and extortion.

Threaten her. Do you know where she works? Her family?

You do know where she lives...

[QUOTE=KevinCalormis;4625095]Send her the laws on blackmail and extortion.

Threaten her. Do you know where she works? Her family?

You do know where she lives...[/QUOTE]I do know where she lives and works. The problem is I don't think what she's done so far is blackmail, she's not asking for anything in return just saying she's going to send evidence to my wife. She's clearly got a screw loose since this wasn't some long term thing with feelings involved. Also not sure if threatening her will make her go away or just make things worse.

[QUOTE=KevinCalormis;4625095]Send her the laws on blackmail and extortion.

Threaten her. Do you know where she works? Her family?

You do know where she lives...[/QUOTE]If she has not asked for anything monetary to prevent this from happening, she has broken no law. Outing without the threat, is perfectly legal, unfortunately.

[QUOTE=ErnestLl;4625219]If she has not asked for anything monetary to prevent this from happening, she has broken no law. Outing without the threat, is perfectly legal, unfortunately.[/QUOTE]"Last week she said she wanted a more traditional SB relationship so I asked what she had in mind. She said I should propose what I think she is worth once a week. I said that wasn't what she said she was looking for when we met and probably wasn't something I could afford, no hard feelings.

She asked for money, was refused and is now threatening.

In any event, Once she is threatened and she will go away. If not with the law with other means. Just judging by the the OP, he's was treating her like they had some sort of relationship. Mailing her gifts? LOL. She picked up on him being naive and soft and assumes that will continue if she pressures him for money. If you meet them on Seeking you are just a mark. These girls a hookers, despite what some of the white knights on here want to believe. Hell, we are discussing them on "usasexguide" LOL.

We have the power in these relationships, always remember that. I do find it amusing that the victim here has frowned on me for my callous attitude towards these girls in his previous posts. Naivete seems to have cost him.

[QUOTE=KevinCalormis;4625256]"Last week she said she wanted a more traditional SB relationship so I asked what she had in mind. She said I should propose what I think she is worth once a week. I said that wasn't what she said she was looking for when we met and probably wasn't something I could afford, no hard feelings.

She asked for money, was refused and is now threatening.

In any event, Once she is threatened and she will go away. If not with the law with other means. Just judging by the the OP, he's was treating her like they had some sort of relationship. Mailing her gifts? LOL. She picked up on him being naive and soft and assumes that will continue if she pressures him for money. If you meet them on Seeking you are just a mark. These girls a hookers, despite what some of the white knights on here want to believe. Hell, we are discussing them on "usasexguide" LOL.

We have the power in these relationships, always remember that. I do find it amusing that the victim here has frowned on me for my callous attitude towards these girls in his previous posts. Naivete seems to have cost him.[/QUOTE]While I concur with kevin, I think the guy who didn't give the girl any cash made an error.

To spare hard feelings, give a few bucks and adios honey.

Regardless what any female says she wants from us, she also wants money.

If she fucks and no complaints, good.

If she changes her tune and starts being unreasonable, throw money at her to shut up.

She of course is having remorse over not asking for money from the beginning.

[QUOTE=EBob1111;4624969]I started up with a 30-something year old SB about a month and a half ago. When we first started chatting she said she really wasn't looking for a monetary arrangement, just someone who she could spend quality time with and if I wanted to give her a gift from time to time she wouldn't be opposed to it. Over a month and a half we actually only ended up seeing each other four times. An initial meet, two trips to the FC, and one quick car date. At one point I paid for a trip to the hair salon, and I bought her some lingerie online and had it mailed to her house as a gift (big mistake). Last week she said she wanted a more traditional SB relationship so I asked what she had in mind. She said I should propose what I think she is worth once a week. I said that wasn't what she said she was looking for when we met and probably wasn't something I could afford, no hard feelings.

A week later this morning, she texts me that I used her and that she's going to mail the lingerie set along with texts and pics to the address on the shipping slip for my wife to see. Of course I texted back why would she want to try to ruins my children's lives over this, but no reply from her. She doesn't know my wife's name so I can certainly be on the lookout to head off any strange packages to my house but wondering if she's really serious or what else she has up her sleeve and what should I do or not to do try to prevent real damage.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=ErnestLl;4625219]If she has not asked for anything monetary to prevent this from happening, she has broken no law. Outing without the threat, is perfectly legal, unfortunately.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=KevinCalormis;4625256]"Last week she said she wanted a more traditional SB relationship so I asked what she had in mind. She said I should propose what I think she is worth once a week. I said that wasn't what she said she was looking for when we met and probably wasn't something I could afford, no hard feelings.

She asked for money, was refused and is now threatening.

In any event, Once she is threatened and she will go away. If not with the law with other means. Just judging by the the OP, he's was treating her like they had some sort of relationship. Mailing her gifts? LOL. She picked up on him being naive and soft and assumes that will continue if she pressures him for money. If you meet them on Seeking you are just a mark. These girls a hookers, despite what some of the white knights on here want to believe. Hell, we are discussing them on "usasexguide" LOL.

We have the power in these relationships, always remember that. I do find it amusing that the victim here has frowned on me for my callous attitude towards these girls in his previous posts. Naivete seems to have cost him.[/QUOTE]I agree. The OP sounds like he may be pretty much fucked if this chick decides to do him in. Personally, I wouldn't pay her a fucking dime, and if there's anything in her texts that even hints like extortion, I'd make sure she knows you'll be making use of it if necessary.

Bad decision sending gifts to her house and letting your info get exposed. Crazy.

So she finally did text me back with an "expense" that if I took care of she would feel that things are resolved. I paid it to make it go away, and at the very least have her in writing asking for money in exchange for not ruining my life so if she ends up fucking with me any more then extortion will be on the table. Hard lesson to learn.

[QUOTE=EBob1111;4625669]So she finally did text me back with an "expense" that if I took care of she would feel that things are resolved. I paid it to make it go away, and at the very least have her in writing asking for money in exchange for not ruining my life so if she ends up fucking with me any more then extortion will be on the table. Hard lesson to learn.[/QUOTE]I had a SB try to extort me just about a year ago. Wanted an initial meet at a coffee shop. Met her in her car with what she wanted. She gave me her "address" to go from there to FC. When I got there and texted, then cam the extortion. Claimed she had my pic in her car, real name, license plate number, cop friend that would be coming to my door, etc. And would let wife know unless I gave her money $275 by end of day. After a few hours of threats I asked her for proof--a pic, license number, etc. If she could come up with anything, I would pay her. She got real pissy for the rest of the day. Never heard from her after that day. I have learned to discreetly take a pic of their car, their plate, and the girl coming into a hotel room or wherever I meet her.

Sadly, we probably all learn from experience.

[QUOTE=EBob1111;4625669]So she finally did text me back with an "expense" that if I took care of she would feel that things are resolved. I paid it to make it go away, and at the very least have her in writing asking for money in exchange for not ruining my life so if she ends up fucking with me any more then extortion will be on the table. Hard lesson to learn.[/QUOTE]Is she still on SA? Can you provide a link? I'd just like to steer clear of this one.

[QUOTE=GeechieDan;4626403]Is she still on SA? Can you provide a link? I'd just like to steer clear of this one[/QUOTE]She deleted her profile soon after we met the first time, not spending much time on the site lately but if I see her pop up again I'll let you know.

Joined today. 26 married. Said she had to clear up some debt from foolish purchases for last year.

Had a nice convo going -- fitness trainer who said she could give me quite the work out -- then poof. Either deactivated or blocked. I'm thinking DeacT since I can still see her user name. She probably got cold feet, or I guess there are some glitches in SA with new sign ups that seem to go on and off like there is a short in their system.

Anyone else got any intel to share?

[QUOTE=WPGuy;4626318]I had a SB try to extort me just about a year ago. Wanted an initial meet at a coffee shop. Met her in her car with what she wanted. She gave me her "address" to go from there to FC. When I got there and texted, then cam the extortion. Claimed she had my pic in her car, real name, license plate number, cop friend that would be coming to my door, etc. And would let wife know unless I gave her money $275 by end of day. After a few hours of threats I asked her for proof--a pic, license number, etc. If she could come up with anything, I would pay her. She got real pissy for the rest of the day. Never heard from her after that day. I have learned to discreetly take a pic of their car, their plate, and the girl coming into a hotel room or wherever I meet her.

Sadly, we probably all learn from experience.[/QUOTE]There are periodic posts on this stuff, you might look back a while, or into the archive. Some very calmly confident replies to this crap are listed. Basically, it isn't the nicest thing to cheat on your wife, but it isn't illegal. However, extortion is a felony, etc. Etc. Of course, you have evidence in her texts, screen shot them and send them back to her. If she wants to fuck you up, you will do her one better in return. And then, make *certain* that your op sec is good enough that none of the things a girl like this claims could be true. Like being able to say, when a girl you barebacked says she's preggers, that you were snipped before the turn of the century, so it couldn't be you.

[QUOTE=ErnestLl;4627006]Joined today. 26 married. Said she had to clear up some debt from foolish purchases for last year.

Had a nice convo going -- fitness trainer who said she could give me quite the work out -- then poof. Either deactivated or blocked. I'm thinking DeacT since I can still see her user name. She probably got cold feet, or I guess there are some glitches in SA with new sign ups that seem to go on and off like there is a short in their system.

Anyone else got any intel to share?[/QUOTE]Interesting. No intel on the girl, but I was on SA early this afternoon. I logged off, then tried to log back on later and upon logging back in was told that my account had been deleted, sometime in those few hours I suppose. Weird, since I was just shopping and not buying. Could be a SA glitch.

Anyone chatted with Stellablue222?

[URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/6ba5efb5-a41f-4a1f-b876-4e217a09772f[/URL]

Seriously cute and leggy, but claims her LT SB was 63 and gave her $300 per week for platonic dates until she got comfortable enough to get naked, then it was $2000 a month for weekly bangs.

[QUOTE=ErnestLl;4628525]Anyone chatted with Stellablue222?

[URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/6ba5efb5-a41f-4a1f-b876-4e217a09772f[/URL]

Seriously cute and leggy, but claims her LT SB was 63 and gave her $300 per week for platonic dates until she got comfortable enough to get naked, then it was $2000 a month for weekly bangs.[/QUOTE]Told me she's never had any luck on the site. No arrangements. That's a nice jump from 3 to 2 k.