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[QUOTE=IronMan74;5481589]Just curious what is the tip range at State? It is kind of an anomaly. My guess would be at least 60-80 for mutual touch. Maybe more.[/QUOTE]Others may have a better idea on what tips are expected and for what exactly. I have yet to tip at State. Perhaps that's my problem.
[QUOTE=ANewGuy;5483891]Others may have a better idea on what tips are expected and for what exactly. I have yet to tip at State. Perhaps that's my problem.[/QUOTE]Presumably, one tips at the end based on satisfaction. If you weren't happy enough to repeat, why bother "tipping" at all?
If you have a discussion during the session about extras, then that's a different thing than a "tip" right?
I think there's a number of ways to view State Street:
* Go for the gold, pay whatever she asks (not my approach).
* Aim for takeout, tip only if she's open to this; otherwise, enjoy meeting someone new and don't expect more than a handjob.
* Other approaches? I'd love to hear them.
The house fee is a sunk cost. And it limits what I'm willing to pay for extras / tips. I no longer focus on what happens there, but I view it as an opportunity to meet potential talent for take out.
[QUOTE=Crisler;5484127]Presumably, one tips at the end based on satisfaction. If you weren't happy enough to repeat, why bother "tipping" at all?
If you have a discussion during the session about extras, then that's a different thing than a "tip" right?
I think there's a number of ways to view State Street:
* Go for the gold, pay whatever she asks (not my approach).
* Aim for takeout, tip only if she's open to this; otherwise, enjoy meeting someone new and don't expect more than a handjob.
* Other approaches? I'd love to hear them.
The house fee is a sunk cost. And it limits what I'm willing to pay for extras / tips. I no longer focus on what happens there, but I view it as an opportunity to meet potential talent for take out.[/QUOTE]What's wrong with just being straightforward, e. G. Saying something like "I'm interested in your very best program. Can you tell me what kind of tip that would entail?
[QUOTE=ANewGuy;5483891]Others may have a better idea on what tips are expected and for what exactly. I have yet to tip at State. Perhaps that's my problem.[/QUOTE]Even if it was just a massage without a HE, I would still tip something. $20 even. $40 with HE. It's the mutual touch where I don't know how to tip. I can't imagine no tip unless they cut it short or unless they were horrible.
I recently stopped at 558 and what a pleasurable event it was. I got in touch with Lea who pleasantly greeted me at the door with a warm hand right down the front of my shorts. Took me back to her room and she got me worked up before she even took the house fee. When she returned it was all sensual and tease. I really wasn't there for a massage anyhow. I literally thought I was going to pop within the first 5 minutes but she knew just when to tease, when to focus on other areas and when to come back to teasing. I haven't wanted to fuck someone so bad in years. LOL I have never had such a long period of teasing in an AMP, it was great time. Her tits are so nice and she laid them out for a good half hour of play. I think she's the best in Madison right now. She's been there a long time. Hope she sticks around. Will return. Today!
[QUOTE=DPMonger;5484408]I recently stopped at 558 and what a pleasurable event it was. I got in touch with Lea who pleasantly greeted me at the door with a warm hand right down the front of my shorts. Took me back to her room and she got me worked up before she even took the house fee. When she returned it was all sensual and tease. I really wasn't there for a massage anyhow. I literally thought I was going to pop within the first 5 minutes but she knew just when to tease, when to focus on other areas and when to come back to teasing. I haven't wanted to fuck someone so bad in years. LOL I have never had such a long period of teasing in an AMP, it was great time. Her tits are so nice and she laid them out for a good half hour of play. I think she's the best in Madison right now. She's been there a long time. Hope she sticks around. Will return. Today![/QUOTE]I went this morning, and had a great session with Wendy. She was new but it was similar to sessions with Lea and CiCi. The massage wasn't bad either.
[QUOTE=Newbie5;5484769]I went this morning, and had a great session with Wendy. She was new but it was similar to sessions with Lea and CiCi. The massage wasn't bad either.[/QUOTE]Lea is still there for sure. Was Wendy hacking and gagging? One of the girls sounded like she was about to puke up a lung when I was there this weekend. I was almost grossed out as she was loud and sounded like she had a fucking load of cum she was hacking up. Lea just laughed and kept on with the motions when I commented on it. Hope the gal doesn't have covid? I felt bad for the dude she was rubben on. Imagine being about to blow a load and the chick starts hackin up a lougie while your working on the job at "hand. LOL!!
[QUOTE=IronMan74;5484332]Even if it was just a massage without a HE, I would still tip something. $20 even. $40 with HE. It's the mutual touch where I don't know how to tip. I can't imagine no tip unless they cut it short or unless they were horrible.[/QUOTE]The house fee is $120 for an hour, $160 for "body to body" / nuru. I can see feeling like you ought to tip if you opted for the $120 option and felt happy. As you said, $40. Sure.
But if I pay $160 and I'm not thrilled with the experience, why tip?
Or if I feel like it's outrageous up selling, like asking the supposed additional $500 for FS that someone here recently quoted, I'm inclined to say no thanks, enjoy the experience for what it is, and leave without tipping.
Like an extra $100 for a blow job, all of a sudden I've spent $260 for a blow job. Who does that?
[QUOTE=Crisler;5489099]The house fee is $120 for an hour, $160 for "body to body" / nuru. I can see feeling like you ought to tip if you opted for the $120 option and felt happy. As you said, $40. Sure.
But if I pay $160 and I'm not thrilled with the experience, why tip?
Or if I feel like it's outrageous up selling, like asking the supposed additional $500 for FS that someone here recently quoted, I'm inclined to say no thanks, enjoy the experience for what it is, and leave without tipping.
Like an extra $100 for a blow job, all of a sudden I've spent $260 for a blow job. Who does that?[/QUOTE]Are you speaking from experience or are you just posing hypotheticals?
[QUOTE=IronMan74;5489404]Are you speaking from experience or are you just posing hypotheticals?[/QUOTE]I was offered a BJ for $100. Same girl offered FS for $300 in session or $500 for take out. Like I'm going to spend $460 to fuck a girl on a massage table? No thanks.
I declined all of those options. YMMV.
Care to share your experience?
[QUOTE=Crisler;5489584]I was offered a BJ for $100. Same girl offered FS for $300 in session or $500 for take out. Like I'm going to spend $460 to fuck a girl on a massage table? No thanks.
I declined all of those options. YMMV.
Care to share your experience?[/QUOTE]I haven't gone there yet because I am not a fan of the location, set up, or fat guy on the couch. I am also trying to get info on tip rate. So I can figure out if it is worth it for me. Was thinking of scheduling with either Lana or Alexsya, but haven't had time yet.
[QUOTE=IronMan74;5489713]I haven't gone there yet because I am not a fan of the location, set up, or fat guy on the couch. I am also trying to get info on tip rate. So I can figure out if it is worth it for me. Was thinking of scheduling with either Lana or Alexsya, but haven't had time yet.[/QUOTE]Between the location and the fat guy, if it was free it still wouldn't be worth it.
[QUOTE=IronMan74;5489713]I haven't gone there yet because I am not a fan of the location, set up, or fat guy on the couch. I am also trying to get info on tip rate. So I can figure out if it is worth it for me. Was thinking of scheduling with either Lana or Alexsya, but haven't had time yet.[/QUOTE]I hear you. The location is convenient, but a bit too public, so to speak. As for the guy on the couch, yeah, not ideal. But he makes the girl's feel safe, I think, so I've come to accept it. Also, he's relatively unobtrusive and actually helpful, in a way, if you make any effort at all.
I wouldn't worry about the tip rate. I think we tend to overthink it. No one asks for a tip. So I think the right way to think about it is not to think about it at all. If you feel like tipping, tip. If you don't, don't. If you explore what you want with the girl and she mentions or hints at pay for play, explore it. But don't fuck it up for the rest of us by dumping a giant wad of cash on her for next to nothing. LOL.
[QUOTE=RogueFive;5489790]Between the location and the fat guy, if it was free it still wouldn't be worth it.[/QUOTE]I hear you about the guy on the couch. But I think the "I wouldn't do it if it was free" seems a bit extreme. For the Madison scene, the girls are easily the hottest and cleanest girls in town. Are they down to fuck? Some of them are. Are they reasonable in what they ask? Some of them are. And some of them aren't.
Want to spin the wheel and see what you can experience in a relatively safe environment? That's the way to think about it, in my opinion.
[QUOTE=Crisler;5490233]I hear you. The location is convenient, but a bit too public, so to speak. As for the guy on the couch, yeah, not ideal. But he makes the girl's feel safe, I think, so I've come to accept it. Also, he's relatively unobtrusive and actually helpful, in a way, if you make any effort at all.
I wouldn't worry about the tip rate. I think we tend to overthink it. No one asks for a tip. So I think the right way to think about it is not to think about it at all. If you feel like tipping, tip. If you don't, don't. If you explore what you want with the girl and she mentions or hints at pay for play, explore it. But don't fuck it up for the rest of us by dumping a giant wad of cash on her for next to nothing. LOL.[/QUOTE]In addition to all of this, he is consistently getting hot (and clean) girls to his roster. Hard to pass if you enjoy a nice HE with a pretty lady. And way more predictable than the Asian places around here.
New AMP boys! Off Park st close to the hospital. I'm out of town so I can't try it but got good reviews from a degenerate friend of mine. Chinese place.
[QUOTE=Untitled;5490239]In addition to all of this, he is consistently getting hot (and clean) girls to his roster. Hard to pass if you enjoy a nice HE with a pretty lady. And way more predictable than the Asian places around here.[/QUOTE]I generally want more than a hand job. But yeah, if you're happy paying $160 for a hand job, you really can't beat this place.
[QUOTE=Crisler;5491358]I generally want more than a hand job. But yeah, if you're happy paying $160 for a hand job, you really can't beat this place.[/QUOTE]Haven't been in a few months but isn't it 120 for the hour?
[QUOTE=Crisler;5490238]Are they down to fuck? Some of them are. Are they reasonable in what they ask? Some of them are.
[/QUOTE]I'd be interested in seeing some names attached to this statement. DM is fine if you don't want to post them.
[QUOTE=Sanctimonious6;5491891]I'd be interested in seeing some names attached to this statement. DM is fine if you don't want to post them.[/QUOTE]I would also like to know.
[QUOTE=Kermit61;5491900]I would also like to know.[/QUOTE]LOL. DM is fine too. Thanks!
I've never been much of an AMP guy, but in recent months I've tried out two Monona establishments and had okay experiences. Them more recently I found myself on the west side one day and on a whim popped into Cherry. It's on another level from the Monona joints. Leah is awesome. She was a bit cautious since she hadn't seen me before, but mostly she treated me like I was her favorite client ever. I get that a lot, since I'm such a charming mofo, but seriously, it was just a lot of fun even though I know I didn't get to experience all that is available there. And the massage was better than expected, including some back walking. I'll probably try to return before she forgets me and forgets how wonderful I am.
[QUOTE=TheHand;5490921]New AMP boys! Off Park st close to the hospital. I'm out of town so I can't try it but got good reviews from a degenerate friend of mine. Chinese place.[/QUOTE]Anyone find this place and try it yet. I tried to look in maps and could not find this in. There are couple hospitals there though.
[QUOTE=Sanctimonious6;5492476]I've never been much of an AMP guy, but in recent months I've tried out two Monona establishments and had okay experiences. Them more recently I found myself on the west side one day and on a whim popped into Cherry. It's on another level from the Monona joints. Leah is awesome. She was a bit cautious since she hadn't seen me before, but mostly she treated me like I was her favorite client ever. I get that a lot, since I'm such a charming mofo, but seriously, it was just a lot of fun even though I know I didn't get to experience all that is available there. And the massage was better than expected, including some back walking. I'll probably try to return before she forgets me and forgets how wonderful I am.[/QUOTE]Lucky you. I called at least a dozen time and no one picked up. I then decided to make a random visit. The place was swamped with cars. Went in and asked for lea. Was told not there today. They offered another lady who I had seen before, I politely said I'll return. Made a visit next day, same answer. Not sure if it's just me with my awesome looks or 😔.
[QUOTE=RayBand2;5492515]Anyone find this place and try it yet. I tried to look in maps and could not find this in. There are couple hospitals there though.[/QUOTE]They've been posting ads for a month or so.
[URL]https://madison.rubratings.com/220521[/URL]
[QUOTE=NoDamage;5492612]They've been posting ads for a month or so.
[URL]https://madison.rubratings.com/220521[/URL][/QUOTE]How convenient. It's right in between two Chinese restaurants. At least the ladies will be well fed.
[QUOTE=Dkayz;5492956]How convenient. It's right in between two Chinese restaurants. At least the ladies will be well fed.[/QUOTE]No massage at 618. Real estate office went in to see. NOT Curb gone.
[QUOTE=CurbFeeler;5493274]No massage at 618. Real estate office went in to see. NOT Curb gone.[/QUOTE]Odd that they would post the wrong address. They've been posting ads since at least the middle of July. No sign of them near by I assume?
[QUOTE=TheHand;5490921]New AMP boys! Off Park st close to the hospital. I'm out of town so I can't try it but got good reviews from a degenerate friend of mine. Chinese place.[/QUOTE]Curb says it's a real estate business. What does your "friend" say about that?
[QUOTE=Sanctimonious6;5491891]I'd be interested in seeing some names attached to this statement. DM is fine if you don't want to post them.[/QUOTE]I would like to know also if anyone would care to share. I have no problem with nice erotic massage, but at my age I'm too impatient for just the possibility of FS. I would like more of a sure thing, even though it seems to be pretty rare in Madison.
[QUOTE=NoDamage;5493278]Odd that they would post the wrong address. They've been posting ads since at least the middle of July. No sign of them near by I assume?[/QUOTE]I had my doubts as well but apparently there is a side entrance. I may TOFTT but I do have favorites.
[QUOTE=LoveBoydodo;5493289]Curb says it's a real estate business. What does your "friend" say about that?[/QUOTE]I don't know about the OP's friend, but I have been there and gotten service. The key is that it's not the conventional AMP. It's one person working out of one room in a back office. You need to contact via text first to set an appointment and then go in the side door.
[QUOTE=CurbFeeler;5493274]No massage at 618. Real estate office went in to see. NOT Curb gone.[/QUOTE]Use the side door behind the real estate office.
Mid 40's MT w / small and flat butt. Goes straight for the tease but don't get your hopes up. HE only. Damage .8.
[QUOTE=CurbFeeler;5493274]No massage at 618. Real estate office went in to see. NOT Curb gone.[/QUOTE]Thank you bud. Saved me the drive.
[QUOTE=OldFreak;5493919]I don't know about the OP's friend, but I have been there and gotten service. The key is that it's not the conventional AMP. It's one person working out of one room in a back office. You need to contact via text first to set an appointment and then go in the side door.[/QUOTE]Been there once. No different than any of the other places on East side. Rub and jackhammer. Older woman too.
[QUOTE=Sanctimonious6;5491891]I'd be interested in seeing some names attached to this statement. DM is fine if you don't want to post them.[/QUOTE]I have private messaging turned off. If there's some other way to contact you, I'm happy to share. There aren't that many different girls there. I haven't seen all of them. The price of entry makes experimenting relatively painless. $120 for an hour or $160 for an hour of what is described as "nude", "body to body", or "nuru"; and it is often neither of those. YMMV, but as others have noted, these girls are relatively attractive (certainly compared to anything you can find on STG) and most of them state mutual touch in their ads and you can almost guarantee a hand job. So, why not give it a shot?
[QUOTE=Crisler;5494543]I have private messaging turned off. If there's some other way to contact you, I'm happy to share. There aren't that many different girls there. I haven't seen all of them. The price of entry makes experimenting relatively painless. $120 for an hour or $160 for an hour of what is described as "nude", "body to body", or "nuru"; and it is often neither of those. YMMV, but as others have noted, these girls are relatively attractive (certainly compared to anything you can find on STG) and most of them state mutual touch in their ads and you can almost guarantee a hand job. So, why not give it a shot?[/QUOTE]Yes, I would have DM's you in the first place if you had it turned on. But you don't, so I posted the question here. All due respect, but are you suggesting I post my contact info here, since you have DM turned off? Uh, yeah, I think not. I've read the posts and know the base rates, that's not the issue. I know YMMV, that's true almost everywhere and is not the issue. I've seen the ads and know they mention mutual touch and in most cases body to body. That's not the issue. Re your closing question, the whole point is that if I'm going to give it a shot, it would be great to give it a shot armed with the information you purport to possess if you're willing to share it. If you would prefer not to share it, that's cool. But this response was pretty unhelpful.
[QUOTE=RawlSocket;5493737]I would like to know also if anyone would care to share. I have no problem with nice erotic massage, but at my age I'm too impatient for just the possibility of FS. I would like more of a sure thing, even though it seems to be pretty rare in Madison.[/QUOTE]I hear you. I would not describe FS as a sure thing at this place. So if that's your expectation on the first visit, you are likely to be disappointed.
Some one suggested a strategy that I very much disagree with:
[URL]http://www.usasexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?4940-Massage-Parlor-Reports&p=5411980&highlight=sabrina+500#post5411980[/URL]
First off, $500 to fuck someone on a massage table with a dude in the other room? And that's on top of the house fee you've already paid? No thanks. If I was in the mood to burn money like that, I'm pretty sure I could find a much better experience.
The strategy I recommend: Find a girl that appeals to you and go spend the $120. Don't expect more than a sensual massage and a hand job. Explore what she's open to and encourage take out. If she proposes something ridiculous like $100 for a blow job, just say no thanks, don't tip her ass, enjoy the rest of the visit, and pick someone else next time.
[QUOTE=Sanctimonious6;5494557]Yes, I would have DM's you in the first place if you had it turned on. But you don't, so I posted the question here. All due respect, but are you suggesting I post my contact info here, since you have DM turned off? Uh, yeah, I think not. I've read the posts and know the base rates, that's not the issue. I know YMMV, that's true almost everywhere and is not the issue. I've seen the ads and know they mention mutual touch and in most cases body to body. That's not the issue. Re your closing question, the whole point is that if I'm going to give it a shot, it would be great to give it a shot armed with the information you purport to possess if you're willing to share it. If you would prefer not to share it, that's cool. But this response was pretty unhelpful.[/QUOTE]Fair enough. My apologies.
If you guys are looking for "names" for State st the only one that matters is Andrew Jackson. The more money you have and offer beyond the standard price the better you will be received. The old Violet from BP used to work at Canyon you really think a hooker like her was just giving massages? You really think the others are any better? Why do you think a lot of those ladies leave the fat guy behind? The problem is it looks like some posters here expect the ladies to say " would you like me to fuck you now? And that's just not going to happen. Money talks, as should you.
As for the fat guy who cares if he's in the other room. He's probably watching what's going on anyway.
Go get some pussy instead of making excuses.