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Just wanted to also take a moment and Say Thanks from all the EE ladies and Me to everyone for your patronage. Also we are very Thankful to all the friends / family / loved ones in.
Our lives and of course good health and other things we take for granted on a daily basis. Happy Thanksgiving Everyone!
[QUOTE=Caligulaxxx;2281235]Like lice and bedbugs?
Yes an yes.
Also known others whov had to deal with same. These notels girls use are hardly sanitary. The sheets an pillow cases (cumcovers) don't get changed like they should an like we would like them to.[/QUOTE]Sheet changing. I change sheets when I see someone every time. I also don't use the top cover and put a towel down for some very wet activity I might cause. I also take extra pillow cases and sheets with me when I get my room. Who wants to smell someone else when we are doing it? I know I don't ewww!
Xoxo,
Stormy.
In addition to bed bugs I was thinking the kind that might be passed to your SO. I always do CFS but you never know and apparently BBBJ is subject to risk.
[QUOTE=TheGenteelMan;2279564]I would think the general rule of thumb would be the longer you play, the higher probability you may have to pay; however, your question, IMHO, is very difficult to answer. My guess would be moderate to high given the possible (not necessarily probable) unknowns that can play out before, during or after any given encounter. Obviously there are precautions that should be taken to help ensure a lower risk, provided "busted" involves LE. Busted by wife, GF, or work would carry similar risk that would require similar precautions; most all of which have been enumerated within this site.
Other opinions?
TGM.[/QUOTE]You are correct about the probability getting higher the more often you play (versus longer). It's difficult to assign an exact risk factor to each encounter but clearly some present far more risks. If you perform the same risk-management procedure every time you have an encounter, then your risk-factor number should stay consistent if the girls offer the same levels of risks. That mandates you only seeing particular types of females in particular types of neighborhoods, etc. At a bare minimum, mongers should have hobby phones and e-mail accounts.
I ceased using one highly-reviewed provider who offers excellent services. Problem is that she always has a laptop in the background and I a certain keeps meticulous records in some program. She also asks some questions which is normal, but she's a bit too savvy for my likes. Not sure she'd ever do anything wrong with her information, but what if she needed money?
[QUOTE=Stormyoneonly;2283650]Sheet changing. I change sheets when I see someone every time. I also don't use the top cover and put a towel down for some very wet activity I might cause. I also take extra pillow cases and sheets with me when I get my room. Who wants to smell someone else when we are doing it? I know I don't ewww!
Xoxo,
Stormy.[/QUOTE]It is true, I saw her a week ago and she had a clean towel on the bed, and every thing was clean. Every time I have seen her she has always been very clean and no mess.
[QUOTE=Daddymonger;2283986]You are correct about the probability getting higher the more often you play (versus longer). It's difficult to assign an exact risk factor to each encounter but clearly some present far more risks. If you perform the same risk-management procedure every time you have an encounter, then your risk-factor number should stay consistent if the girls offer the same levels of risks. That mandates you only seeing particular types of females in particular types of neighborhoods, etc. At a bare minimum, mongers should have hobby phones and e-mail accounts.
I ceased using one highly-reviewed provider who offers excellent services. Problem is that she always has a laptop in the background and I a certain keeps meticulous records in some program. She also asks some questions which is normal, but she's a bit too savvy for my likes. Not sure she'd ever do anything wrong with her information, but what if she needed money?[/QUOTE]I'll skip the theory but basically the longer you do it the more likely you are to get caught. Now risk mitigation will lower that chance. Along with the basic monger info there should be a mongering 201 after seeing a few providers. I think most people get comfortable confident and cocky.
I heard a caller on wlw a couple weeks ago state that a way to tell if a girl is LEO or not is to ask them if you can take naked pics of them before saying anything else. If its LEO they will supposedly tell you to get lost or ignore you because its not illegal to take naked pics. Does that sound right? Thats an interesting little tip if its true.
[QUOTE=Sabadogigante;2284542]I heard a caller on wlw a couple weeks ago state that a way to tell if a girl is LEO or not is to ask them if you can take naked pics of them before saying anything else. If its LEO they will supposedly tell you to get lost or ignore you because its not illegal to take naked pics. Does that sound right? That's an interesting little tip if its true.[/QUOTE]It sounds technically possible but we all know how at times technicalities play out differently than expected. I do believe all law enforcement officers would refuse, but so might some legitimate providers.
I just noticed I made senior status so I wanted to take a min to thank everyone here for all the help along the way. I appreciate all the info and guidance and I hope maybe some of my posts or pms have assisted someone else too. I'm glad to be part of a great group here. Wish I would've known about this place sooner! Now anyone got good ideas on how I sbould celebrate??
[QUOTE=Sabadogigante;2284542]I heard a caller on wlw a couple weeks ago state that a way to tell if a girl is LEO or not is to ask them if you can take naked pics of them before saying anything else. If its LEO they will supposedly tell you to get lost or ignore you because its not illegal to take naked pics. Does that sound right? Thats an interesting little tip if its true.[/QUOTE]They will / can do anything to get the bust. I had a conversation recently with a "friend" who neglected to do all the checks. She said this guy had an out of state area code and let her suck his dick. Then she got busted when she accepted the cash.
Simon.
LEO has been shot at the Super 8 Motel in Florence. I would advise staying far far away from this area.
She was rushed to hospital in cardiac arrest.
She suffers from breathing problems.
Please think positive thoughts for her recovery.
Be.
[QUOTE=UtrInOhio;2288221]She was rushed to hospital in cardiac arrest.
She suffers from breathing problems.
Please think positive thoughts for her recovery.
Be.[/QUOTE]Oh no that's horrible! Best wishes to her for sure. What a sweet girl.
[QUOTE=UtrInOhio;2288221]She was rushed to hospital in cardiac arrest.
She suffers from breathing problems.
Please think positive thoughts for her recovery.
Be.[/QUOTE]I am very sorry to hear that happened to her. She is a super sweet girl. Prayers for a speedy recovery.
[QUOTE=Simonpieman;2285831]They will / can do anything to get the bust. I had a conversation recently with a "friend" who neglected to do all the checks. She said this guy had an out of state area code and let her suck his dick. Then she got busted when she accepted the cash.
[/QUOTE]This, this, this times a thousand.
Remember kids, the cops can and DO lie when they are in the middle of an "investigation. " They don't have to answer truthfully to "Are you a cop," and they can fuck providers or do anything that they need to do in order to make an arrest.
Honestly, I find the "cop checks" that most girls do is. Just. Hilarious.
Find a *trusted* provider; someone you know will be straight with you -- and you should be fine. The minute you let the smaller head start dictating who you're going to see and when, you know you're going to be playing with the edge of the razor. And eventually, you'll get cut.
MM.
[QUOTE=UtrInOhio;2288221]She was rushed to hospital in cardiac arrest.
She suffers from breathing problems.
Please think positive thoughts for her recovery.
Be.[/QUOTE]Very sweet girl my prayers are with her, please keep us informed. HL29.
My prayers and thoughts are with this sweet girl.
KC.
[QUOTE=UtrInOhio;2288221]She was rushed to hospital in cardiac arrest.
She suffers from breathing problems.
Please think positive thoughts for her recovery.
Be.[/QUOTE]
Way too young to have that happen to her and hope she recovers soon and is back in form. PTMan.
[QUOTE=PuntangMan;2288870]Way too young to have that happen to her and hope she recovers soon and is back in form. PTMan.[/QUOTE]Thanks for everyones concern and best wishes.
She would love to see a couple regular friends today.
[QUOTE=UtrInOhio;2288990]Thanks for everyones concern and best wishes.
She would love to see a couple regular friends today.[/QUOTE]And glad she recovered. PSE is a wonderful thing to enjoy.
[QUOTE=BuyingSmiles;2281030]I've walked in packing on more than one occasion. I simply tell the girl your neighborhood looks like hell or I didn't like the look of the people hanging outside and I have my gun. If that bothers you I will leave. No one ever kicked me out and I just set it by the bed or in a position where some one coming through the door won't get to it before I can. Hell, did you ever go see Susan? Park at Kroger and then walk your ass a couple blocks down the street Ina shit part of town? I'd rather explain why some asshole has several holes in them than try to make it to the hospital with holes in me. I've never shot anyone that didn't deserve it & I don't plan on it. If you try to rob me, well you kinda deserve it.[/QUOTE]I never leave the house unarmed. To me, it is a personal and social responsibility. Why spend all that time and money training yourself only to leave it at home where it can't do any good if (heaven forbid) it is needed? Every gal has understood, none have objected, and more than half have shown an interest in it. I have even taken one gal to the shooting range a couple of times. She blew through 150 rounds of. 22 in an hour the first time!
So true it should be a sticky!
+2.
[QUOTE=MisforMaster;2288564]This, this, this times a thousand.
Remember kids, the cops can and DO lie when they are in the middle of an "investigation. " They don't have to answer truthfully to "Are you a cop," and they can fuck providers or do anything that they need to do in order to make an arrest.
Honestly, I find the "cop checks" that most girls do is. Just. Hilarious.
Find a *trusted* provider; someone you know will be straight with you -- and you should be fine. The minute you let the smaller head start dictating who you're going to see and when, you know you're going to be playing with the edge of the razor. And eventually, you'll get cut.
MM.[/QUOTE]
I will miss you guys and will be back to visit in the future at times as I have a lot of friends here. Yes I said friends because believe it or not you can make friends in this.
I will miss a lot of gentlemen and some of the ladies here. Some people I have become very close to in the last all most year and this is a very sad goodbye for me but, I will be keeping my 513-965 number so if you ever want to text or call me you can and I will also keep my [EMAIL]Stormyoneonly@gmail.com[/EMAIL] if you ever want to say hey!
Now to clear things up before I leave and the way I am leaving as a lot of people have been asking:
** Here it is I am going to be with my daughter she is a troubled teen that needs her mom. No not prego just needs me around. Also I am going to school to be a drug counselor. One more thing yes I did have a close call with Uncle LEO and I don't need to get in trouble anymore in my life. Just remember ladies and gents DO NOT talk money at all. Check references and sometimes that don't work. No they did not get any info from me and I never gave over anything. If you have any questions you can call me! Protecting myself, my family, and the MEMBERS of this Forum are very IMPORTANT to me! Play safe out there and be safe! Even doing everything to safe can get a close call.
I will be working where I go for a month to stay above water and keep my savings up but, then for the moment I am done. I love what I do but, family and school comes first.
Hmmmm. Wonder what a "real" job is going to feel like? YUCKY damn taxes and a boss WOW! It has been a while for that. That is life though.
I LOVE YOU GUYS and This is where my heart is!!
Very sad time for me right now!
XOXO,
Stormy.
In the past, it has been mentioned somewhere on the board here, there is a motel in Cincinnati that does not require a personal ID to check in. If you pay with cash, there would be no record of you being there. If this is accurate would someone mind sharing this with me.
Thank you,
Fdx.
[QUOTE=Fdx17;2289876]In the past, it has been mentioned somewhere on the board here, there is a motel in Cincinnati that does not require a personal ID to check in. If you pay with cash, there would be no record of you being there. If this is accurate would someone mind sharing this with me.
Thank you,
Fdx.[/QUOTE]The only one I know is the notel Fulton in walnut hills 10 hrs. 24 dollars all night for. 30. HL29.
[QUOTE=Stormyoneonly;2289805]I will miss you guys and will be back to visit in the future at times as I have a lot of friends here. Yes I said friends because believe it or not you can make friends in this.
I will miss a lot of gentlemen and some of the ladies here. Some people I have become very close to in the last all most year and this is a very sad goodbye for me but, I will be keeping my 513-965 number so if you ever want to text or call me you can and I will also keep my [EMAIL]Stormyoneonly@gmail.com[/EMAIL] if you ever want to say hey!
Now to clear things up before I leave and the way I am leaving as a lot of people have been asking:
** Here it is I am going to be with my daughter she is a troubled teen that needs her mom. No not prego just needs me around. Also I am going to school to be a drug counselor. One more thing yes I did have a close call with Uncle LEO and I don't need to get in trouble anymore in my life. Just remember ladies and gents DO NOT talk money at all. Check references and sometimes that don't work. No they did not get any info from me and I never gave over anything. If you have any questions you can call me! Protecting myself, my family, and the MEMBERS of this Forum are very IMPORTANT to me! Play safe out there and be safe! Even doing everything to safe can get a close call.
I will be working where I go for a month to stay above water and keep my savings up but, then for the moment I am done. I love what I do but, family and school comes first.
Hmmmm. Wonder what a "real" job is going to feel like? YUCKY damn taxes and a boss WOW! It has been a while for that. That is life though.
I LOVE YOU GUYS and This is where my heart is!!
Very sad time for me right now!
XOXO,
Stormy.[/QUOTE]Dearest Stormy, although I have not seen you in a while you are one of my fondest memories of hobbying. I have tried to catch you before you go, but we just can't seem to mesh our busy schedules. I am glad for you that you have gotten sober and are able to focus on what's truly important, your family. You darling are a truly beautiful woman through and through.
If you have seen or plan to see her, you should contact me. She is 19,5'9", brown hair below shoulders, unusual tats on back. Often does duos with older provider. Her old number is 9 XX 312 5976. Her new number is 9 XX 239 6609.
KC.
[QUOTE=Simonpieman;2285831]They will / can do anything to get the bust. I had a conversation recently with a "friend" who neglected to do all the checks. She said this guy had an out of state area code and let her suck his dick. Then she got busted when she accepted the cash.
Simon.[/QUOTE]Anyone can get an out-of-state area code attached to a telephone when initializing it if it's a hobby phone. It's a simple process of indicating which area you will most use the phone or providing an out-of-state zip code when initializing it. As far as a prosecutor allowing a police officer engage in sex and then arrest a working girl when money exchanged hands for the act, it would never happen. I have heard lots of stories from various people about the hobby, but by and large many are just stories.
I've stumbled upon some disturbing information about some busts of providers in Hamilton County late last month. I'm not permitted to name names here, so you may need to PM for more info. I'm assuming these are Cincinnati Police arrests, but can't tell for sure online. It also looks like they were outcall stings, because the providers came from various places and aren't known to work together.
There are some particularly interesting things about these arrests. First, four of the five were for prostitution, not soliciting. This would indicate that some form of sexual contact with the officer or cooperating witness took place, though I hate to take issue with our one-post expert WanderingMan below. The other one was for soliciting.
Second, and this is a new wrinkle, the arrests were made on 11/18 and 11/19, but the complaints and affidavits weren't filed for a full week, 11/25 and 11/26. Possibly as a result of this, none of the providers' mugshots turned up on any of the mugshot sites. I'm pretty sure these girls didn't buy their way off of the sites, because it's expensive and, for the most part, they haven't before when they've been arrested.
I don't know why the cops waited a week to file the paperwork on this, but it's a tactic similar to what I've seen the police in Clermont, Union Township do of late, when I suspected them of trying to use providers or their phone numbers to sting mongers. It used to be the paperwork on these charges got filed the day of the arrest. Were they waiting to see if they could turn any of the providers or use their phonebooks for a week before releasing info? Were they waiting to publicize their big bust until phase two of going after the mongers? If any of our experts in the LEO community would like to weigh in on this, it would be interesting.
Even without the mugshots, I believe I know who four of the five are. The fifth one I really don't know or recognize.
Feel free to PM for details and I'll get back with you ask quickly as possible.
I use my personal phone for mongering and of course my FB is on it. Lately FB has been pulling recent call logs and using it to suggest friends. One of the girls came up today. So this is a heads up to the girls using their personal phones: if complete anonymity is important than remove your phone info from FB or get a sole purpose burn phone.
[QUOTE=Lugnutz;2293240]I've stumbled upon some disturbing information about some busts of providers in Hamilton County late last month. I'm not permitted to name names here, so you may need to PM for more info. I'm assuming these are Cincinnati Police arrests, but can't tell for sure online. It also looks like they were outcall stings, because the providers came from various places and aren't known to work together.
There are some particularly interesting things about these arrests. First, four of the five were for prostitution, not soliciting. This would indicate that some form of sexual contact with the officer or cooperating witness took place, though I hate to take issue with our one-post expert WanderingMan below. The other one was for soliciting.
Second, and this is a new wrinkle, the arrests were made on 11/18 and 11/19, but the complaints and affidavits weren't filed for a full week, 11/25 and 11/26. Possibly as a result of this, none of the providers' mugshots turned up on any of the mugshot sites. I'm pretty sure these girls didn't buy their way off of the sites, because it's expensive and, for the most part, they haven't before when they've been arrested.
I don't know why the cops waited a week to file the paperwork on this, but it's a tactic similar to what I've seen the police in Clermont, Union Township do of late, when I suspected them of trying to use providers or their phone numbers to sting mongers. It used to be the paperwork on these charges got filed the day of the arrest. Were they waiting to see if they could turn any of the providers or use their phonebooks for a week before releasing info? Were they waiting to publicize their big bust until phase two of going after the mongers? If any of our experts in the LEO community would like to weigh in on this, it would be interesting.
Even without the mugshots, I believe I know who four of the five are. The fifth one I really don't know or recognize.
Feel free to PM for details and I'll get back with you ask quickly as possible.[/QUOTE]If I remember correctly, the cops can hold someone for no more than 3 days without charge in Ohio. Looks like they popped them on a Tues or Wed and then held them over the weekend. They could not have posted a bond because charges had not been filed yet. Or, they could have let them go with a promise to cooperate in some manner but then filed charges when the girls changed their minds. Lots of possibilities in this situation and I would be very careful there, very careful indeed.
Attached is a link to a story claiming that a 'major' heroin ring has been busted. If this is true, there are likely to be some disruptions that could cascade down to us.
[URL]http://www.cincinnati.com/story/news/crime/2014/12/09/union-twp-drug-investigation-busts-heroine-ring/20161451/[/URL]
RB.
Has anybody else been having problems getting to the escort website? I've tried Zgirls. [URL]escortwebsite.com[/URL], copied and pasted out of the ad but I can't get past the warning page.
[QUOTE=RedBred;2294102]Attached is a link to a story claiming that a 'major' heroin ring has been busted. If this is true, there are likely to be some disruptions that could cascade down to us.
[URL]http://www.cincinnati.com/story/news/crime/2014/12/09/union-twp-drug-investigation-busts-heroine-ring/20161451/[/URL]
RB.[/QUOTE]Two of the women busted in Union Township lived and / or worked out of that apartment complex. This may explain why the Union Township cops have been so active there on the hobby front as well, since they may have been trying to turn some of the providers for the broader narcotics investigation. It's a good place to stay away from.
They haven't named any names yet it sounds like, and most of the people indicted were still at large yesterday.
[QUOTE=Gatty23;2294347]Has anybody else been having problems getting to the escort website? I've tried Zgirls. [URL]escortwebsite.com[/URL], copied and pasted out of the ad but I can't get past the warning page.[/QUOTE]All I get is the warning page and no way to get beyond it. No pics, rates or any useful information.
I found this link on another site: [URL]http://zgirls.escortwebsite.com/photos.phtml[/URL]#964625#964625 It worked for me.
[QUOTE=Scup1958;2294416]All I get is the warning page and no way to get beyond it. No pics, rates or any useful information.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Cheech1;2294100]If I remember correctly, the cops can hold someone for no more than 3 days without charge in Ohio. Looks like they popped them on a Tues or Wed and then held them over the weekend. They could not have posted a bond because charges had not been filed yet. Or, they could have let them go with a promise to cooperate in some manner but then filed charges when the girls changed their minds. Lots of possibilities in this situation and I would be very careful there, very careful indeed.[/QUOTE]I see that today that there were a few more soliciting arrests reported in Hamilton County. These were providers I believe to be SWs (they were also charged with loitering to solicit in some cases, which is a giveaway there). Like the escort arrests in November, these women were actually arrested on 12/2 or 12/4, but the complaints and paperwork weren't filed until today. Once again, their mugshots didn't show up on the sites on the day they were arrested.
I'm not sure what to make of this honestly. There's less reason to try to press the SWs for info about mongers, because they often wouldn't have much. Maybe it all has to do with the new prostitution court, though I don't know why that would make a difference.
[QUOTE=WanderingMan;2292780] As far as a prosecutor allowing a police officer engage in sex and then arrest a working girl when money exchanged hands for the act, it would never happen.[/QUOTE]It can, and does often happen.
LEO engages in sex, LEO gives money to girl. Girl takes money, LEO arrests girl.
LEO writes in report "On / about the date / time in this report, I had sex for hire with GIRL. Closed by arrest. ".
LEO transports girl to jail.
Girl goes to court. Girl gets a public defender. Girl tells PD about what's going on, but, the PD's horribly overworked, has an insane case load, and has a boss that's so far up his ass his breath smells like yesterday's chipotle. PD tells girl "Prosecution will drop it to a disorderly conduct if you plea guilty now, no jail time except the night you've already done," girl drops it, and badmouths LEO every chance she can get.
Have I heard about it in Cincinnati? Not recently. The News stations would have a field day if they found out (and yes, it does happen here, but I wouldn't know of any providers who would be willing to go and 'out' the cops to the news if they were busted). It depends on how far the LEO wants to take things, if he's being recorded, if he's comfortable with it, and a shit-ton of other variables, but, ultimately, it's officer discretion.
MM.
[QUOTE=MisforMaster;2294893]It can, and does often happen.
LEO engages in sex, LEO gives money to girl. Girl takes money, LEO arrests girl.
LEO writes in report "On / about the date / time in this report, I had sex for hire with GIRL. Closed by arrest. ".
LEO transports girl to jail.
Girl goes to court. Girl gets a public defender. Girl tells PD about what's going on, but, the PD's horribly overworked, has an insane case load, and has a boss that's so far up his ass his breath smells like yesterday's chipotle. PD tells girl "Prosecution will drop it to a disorderly conduct if you plea guilty now, no jail time except the night you've already done," girl drops it, and badmouths LEO every chance she can get.
Have I heard about it in Cincinnati? Not recently. The News stations would have a field day if they found out (and yes, it does happen here, but I wouldn't know of any providers who would be willing to go and 'out' the cops to the news if they were busted). It depends on how far the LEO wants to take things, if he's being recorded, if he's comfortable with it, and a shit-ton of other variables, but, ultimately, it's officer discretion.
MM.[/QUOTE]I was discussing this with one of my brothers. A woman we know off of one of the sugar baby websites has been arrested for prostitution. (She had GPS and was asking 1-1. 5 K per meet. Yes, that's a K. Her greed was likely her downfall.) That led to a discussion of our risk on the sites. SB dates usually take a week or more to arrange and the communication usually involves PM's on the site, private emails, texts and then a face-to-face MnG. Finally, a lot of guys get to the action without ever discussing cash and / or acts. LEO having sex and then busting a provider may happen but I have a hard time believing this is a real risk for a guy. How many hot-looking policewomen are out there willing to get naked and perform a sex act with a guy in order to bust them afterward?
Peace,
RB.