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[QUOTE=IndyMan500]I hate to say this but, as the good word spreads about Warren and more visitors come for the AMPs, johnny law is watching and waiting. I know someone in LE in the Newton Falls area and he said the hammer is coming. So beware, all good things come to an end, or loose lips sink ships![/QUOTE]Warren should leave the only business in the area that has shown any growth alone. Soapies are good for business. It brings tourism to Mahoning Valley
I stopped by 4S today after lunch. There was one car in the lot so I knew going in that there was a good chance Lisa was already busy. Well not only was she busy , but my favorite room was booked. The old mamasan is back from her vacation and she told me there was a brand new pretty girl. I only had time for 30 min. so I figured nothing ventured nothing gained.
I stripped down and "Cookie" game to get me for the TS. She was a nice little spinner. 30ish, hair past her shoulders, B's with some nice long nipples. The TS was playful and she seemed interested in her "work."
We went pack to the room and I gave her a standard $ donation and she didn't even stop to count it. I was in a hurry so I passed on the massage and got right down to business.
She gave a nice BBBJ, also DATY, digits, started with CG and finished in a standing mish. Overall it was a nice session nothing like a session with Lisa, but I would certainly repeat again and spend more time. Ultimately I think her and Lisa would make a great threesome.
Hope she stays for a little while.
Play safe.
AG
I hope this report is just like the totally bullshit bogus report you gave on the Canton massage board in October. The so called amp you claimed to have been to was checked out and found out to be nothing like you posted it to be.
Happy Mongering
Had a great hour of fun w/ yulie at sun Monday night. Great little spinner body. Nice fake titties w/ real long nipples and a beautiful pussy and a nice little ass. Started w/ an awesome table shower complete w/ slip and slide service. Then an above average massage. Have had better but no complaints. Then proceeded w/ an uncovered BJ. Had her put that pretty pussy in my face for an extended 69 session. Then on w/ the cover. She started on top then I turned her over and stood on the side of the bed for standing missionary then turned her over for some standing doggie then finished w/ a BBBJCIM. Overall a great performance w/ a great attitude.. 5 at the door plus $ tip. Afterwards there wasnt any blood left in my thinking head and I forgot to get a frequent flyer card. That sucks cause I lost my last one w/ 1 visit on it and now lost this visit. Was halfway to my freebie. Oh well.
This was my first visit to Sun in a while. Can anyone recommend any other girls there and add a detailed description of you experience?
Thanks
HD
My. 02
I agree to an extent, but the reason I came back to Sun is the exceptional service and attitude I got on my first visit. That is why I do not go to 4S (I know save the comments, its a great place for some of you, but my visit made me so angry) I feel every guy should be treated great on first visit hence the returning customers. Now. Rushing a regular customer is very bad. I posted my mishap on here a while back where the one girl sprayed straight alcohol up my pipe hole and I freaked out and mamason rushed in and defused the situation. Promised me to come back and it would be great. Well I did go back and nothing but great time out of there. Now there is a few things I can't report, but Sun has made me a regular loyal customer for things I have shared with you guys and things I can not share.
[QUOTE=Book Man]As much as anyone on here I really appreciate reading and giving positive reviews on spas and the girls who make make our sessions great but it can also increase the traffic so much that being with them at the wrong time can mean a wasted session. Hopefully my friend will post about his visit. One popular provider told of a man who drove 400 miles to Warren to see her. I would have to think he read it here. So if you are a mamasan reading this board I think it would benefit you greatly if you would take better care of the regular guys than trying to satisfy these guys you have never seen before. Because of shorting one customer to get to another you lost a local regular customer. Now I am still waiting to hear the donation for a threesome at Sun Spa.
Happy Mongering.[/QUOTE]
I got to see Lisa at 4S again the other day. She never fails to satisfy...thats for sure.
After reading that Coco/Pink/July was at Fugi I decided to give it a try. When I arrived I was put off by the lack of parking and the openness of the acsess door. I did not feel comfortable making the stop. By this time I was primed and ready. I headed for 4S to seek out The Queen. When I arrived there was one car in the lot; but she was free and I ripped her off for a quickie and was on my way.
[QUOTE=IndyMan500]I totally agrre with you Valdez, I know that the LE are not dummies and I'm sure they are aware what goes on, but once the church groups and little old ladies focus on us here on this BBS, they will use this same forum we all share as proof to what goes on and to force the issue with the LE and politicians. The raids will come and the newspapers and TV stations will cover it. Asian sex slaves in Warren next on Action News![/QUOTE]The AMP scene in the Warren area is well known and tolerated because organized crime has been paying off law enforcement and politicians.
The AMP's in Warren are a cash cow generation millions of un-reported profits because most payments are made with cash. Much of that money is then used for pay-offs to police and politicians.
I happen to know that the FBI has access to all the credit card transactions from these places and they know that prostitution is going on. They also are watching these places gathering license plate numbers. Not always, but they do it often enough.
So if you plan on visiting one of these places, I would recommend parking far enough away from the entrance. Maybe at another parking lot. Never in front of the AMP. You are asking for trouble. Walk into the back entrance if one is available. Pay with cash. Never use a credit card. You are asking for a visit from the FBI if you use a credit card. Make yourself as invisible as possible. Never leave a paper or digital trail. People who call AMP's are being tracked. If you call, your number will be included in a database. Never call an AMP. Just show up and ask your questions then.
If caught in a raid at an AMP. Never admit anything. Become a mute. Never tell them your name or where you are from. Just remind them you have the right to remain silent.
When I was younger, I was caught in a dragnet of a close down of the AMP near Wheeling several years ago. They only knew I was there by the credit card record. I used it once. I was contacted and they asked me how I got past their observers. They never figured it out as I did not tell them jack. I did use the credit cards in AMP's in Warren and they asked me about all the credit card bills that I had at several of the AMP's.
Just a word of warning. Never ever use a credit card.
I never go to these places any more. As I get older, I realize that what I was doing was wrong. Not to proselytize, but you will have to eventually pay for what you do. These women do not really want to have sex with hundreds of men every week. They do it for the oldest reason. The love of money.
The reason I always liked going to The Sun was for the Burger King(when it was in business). I would park my car in the BK lot and walk down to Sun. I have gone to the sun just once since BK has closed. My work doesn't take me the area any longer. Pretty good advice given Jeep.
[QUOTE=Jeep56]The AMP scene in the Warren area is well known and tolerated because organized crime has been paying off law enforcement and politicians.
So if you plan on visiting one of these places, I would recommend parking far enough away from the entrance. Maybe at another parking lot. Never in front of the AMP. You are asking for trouble. Walk into the back entrance if one is available. Pay with cash. Never use a credit card. You are asking for a visit from the FBI if you use a credit card. Make yourself as invisible as possible. Never leave a paper or digital trail. People who call AMP's are being tracked. If you call, your number will be included in a database. Never call an AMP. Just show up and ask your questions then.
I never go to these places any more. As I get older, I realize that what I was doing was wrong. Not to proselytize, but you will have to eventually pay for what you do. These women do not really want to have sex with hundreds of men every week. They do it for the oldest reason. The love of money.[/QUOTE]
I was not aware that AMP's took plastic. I am surprised that anyone would be dumb enough to use plastic in an AMP.
[QUOTE=Poontoligist]I was not aware that AMP's took plastic. I am surprised that anyone would be dumb enough to use plastic in an AMP.[/QUOTE]
Hookers take plastic as well. Many agencies in the larger cities have mastercard and visa logos in their ads. In Vegas they all take plastic. Most of the time when some congressman or entertainment figure gets in the news for using escort services it's because they traced his credit card to "New York Entertaiment" or some such thing that is really an escort agency. I've even seen strip clubs that took cards for the VIP rooms. I fairly certain that XTC did that in Akron.
Of course it's still not a good idea to use plastic for sex services.
[QUOTE=Zauber]Hookers take plastic as well. Many agencies in the larger cities have mastercard and visa logos in their ads. In Vegas they all take plastic. Most of the time when some congressman or entertainment figure gets in the news for using escort services it's because they traced his credit card to "New York Entertaiment" or some such thing that is really an escort agency. I've even seen strip clubs that took cards for the VIP rooms. I fairly certain that XTC did that in Akron.
Of course it's still not a good idea to use plastic for sex services.[/QUOTE] Jerry Springer who used a personal check with his signature on it to pay for a hooker. That check was the paper trail that got him.
I learned that the hard way. Young and dumb at the time using a credit card for sex. It is not very fun having the FBI come to your door asking you to come to their office.
Sex is the downfall of many a man. Tiger Woods, Elliott Spitzer, Charlie Sheen, and many many more. I understand why.
Take this as you wish. I'm not trying to talk you into not going to AMP's. Strip Clubs. Picking up streetwalkers. Do as you wish. It is your choice. But. Things happen. The visit from the FBI about the AMP in West Virginia was the first. Then.
For many years I was a customer at the Warren AMP's. I was there several times a month. Spent tons of money. I also participated in picking up hookers on the streets of Canton / AKron / Cleveland. Going to strip bars. Jen's Den. CW's. Lisa's Caberet. Stage door Johnnies in Cleveland back in the early 70s'. I even met and dined at the Y with Marylin Chambers when she appeared at Stage Door Johnies. She got arrested there for prostitution the very next day. I rode thousand of miles on Prospect avenue in Cleveland looking for hookers. I was Laura and Madison's biggest customer at Lisa's. I just could not get enough of the sex. I understand the inner turmoil Tiger Woods or Charlie Sheen is going through. It took over my life. Thousands of dollars spent on hookers over the years. Probably close to lower to mid 6 figures. Driving to cities like Atlanta to the AMP's there. Going to truck stops listed on the internet as pickup places for hookers. Driving hundreds of miles to Michigan, Canada. Visiting the AMPs' in Toledo. Even went to Nashville and spent 10 grand in a week at most of the massage parlors there when they were there. Shut down now.
Went to Las Vegas. Not to gamble. But for sex. Visited the chicken ranch. Spent thousand there. Flew there several times. Even wanted to go to Tialand to the massage parlors there. Saw a TV program about that and was planning to fly there.
Been to all the famous strip clubs in Tampa. Went to the movie theaters in Tampa to pick up women who were posted on this site. Spent time driving Orange Blossom trail picking up hookers in Orlando.
Stopped several times by the police in several cities but never arrested. Part of the excitement. Smart enough to avoid getting arrested I guess.
Spent some time in Washington DC at the parlors there.
I was also addicted to porn. I used to rent porn videos from the movie theater in Akron. I also used to go into the theater to meet women who would do the guys in the seats. Had many a BJ there. Spent hundreds of dollars for one of those really big satellite dishes to get the porn. Wanted the fastest download for the internet to get the smoothest flow for porn movies.
A good woman was not enough to satisfy me. Girl friends could not meet my drive. Did not even want a steady girl friend. How boring.
I loved the variety, the thought of being caught also played a role. The excitement of picking up a streetwalker. Hoping she could meet my needs. The variety. White. Black. Asian. I loved the variety. The excitement. The fear all played a part in my problem. Even went bareback with the thought of possibly picking up an STD was part of the excitement.
The biggest high I got was meeting a woman for the first time knowing I was about to have sex with her. That High beat all the other feelings I had. That lust of seeing the cleavage, the body of a woman who I was about to do. The dirty talk. The French kissing. The oral and often anal sex. I was a butt man. I probably have had several hundred women over the last 35 years.
Man that high was so damned addictive.
That suddenly ended just last year.
I was coming back from Warren last year and was driving back to Akron. I was at 4 seasons for 4 hours with nothing but threesomes for those 4 hours. I loved two women at once. I then went to what used to be Oriental Sauna. Spent another two hours there. I was so tired at the end and while driving back on I-76 I fell asleep at the wheel and had a very bad car accident.
Went across the median into oncoming traffic. Police thought I was dead at the scene. Hit by a semi at over 70 MPH in a Honda. I lost that battle. I was legally dead for 29 minutes.
Had one of those near death experiences that made me realize that I should not be doing what I was doing. Floated out of my body. Saw the bright white light. The whole 9 yards. I was told I had to come back. Had more to accomplish. Needed to take care of my son. That was enough to get me to stop going to Warren or any other AMP or use anyone for sex.
I was lucky and survived but I got the message. I now have steel rods in my legs, a plate in my skull and still have a few problems with my back but overall the doctors were amazed at my recovery.
That's the reason why I said in my previous post that you pay for what you do if it is wrong. I never felt so guilty, so ashamed while having that NDE in all my living days. That feeling of guilt and shame when I was dead still haunts me to this very day. Take this as you wish. You will pay for your wrong doings here on earth. I had to learn the hard way.
You just posted about cruising and picking up hookers, yet 2 years ago you posted:
[QUOTE]I have never picked up a streetwalker.
Is it cheaper and just as fun as the AMPS or is it better to stick with the AMP's?
I have to wonder about the issues of drugs and the type of woman that is a streetwalker. Also doing it in a car is not my idea of fun. And dealing with LE is not a great thing either.[/QUOTE]So, which is it? Are you lying now or were you lying then? Actually, I don't care because either way you are a liar.
Just a few posts ago you claimed it was a TV documentary about sex slaves in AMPs that turned you against the hobby. Now it was God himself, huh?
If you no longer enjoy this hobby, or if you ever even really participated, good for you. I suggest that you find a more suitable forum to frequent.
I never really post but this got me going as well. I agree if you have the guilt jeep why still frequent this forum. I reviewed all your old posts and lots of flip flop nonsence. I am single and can goto a amp if I want without guilt. No different than picking up a girl at a bar and blowing $100 on dinner movie drinks to get in her pants- your still paying right? If your married you goto blow money on clothes and jewlry for your old lady and hope she bones you so thats still paying right? The only difference between sex you pay for and sex thats for free is, the sex you pay for is usually cheaper. or in other words it's cheaper to rent than own,
[QUOTE=Torchkit]You just posted about cruising and picking up hookers, yet 2 years ago you posted:
So, which is it? Are you lying now or were you lying then? Actually, I don't care because either way you are a liar.
Just a few posts ago you claimed it was a TV documentary about sex slaves in AMPs that turned you against the hobby. Now it was God himself, huh?
If you no longer enjoy this hobby, or if you ever even really participated, good for you. I suggest that you find a more suitable forum to frequent.[/QUOTE]I did not want to mention what I had gone through here because I know you folks would attack me and need to justify what you are doing in your minds. I did that myself for 35 years. That program I mentioned about AMP's was a good excuse to at least make people think about what they are doing. A way of getting around being attacked for what sounds as crazy as it seems. But it did happen.
If I mentioned anything about guilt or payment then I would get attacked. Or anything about God. And I was right.
I was told to come here today. Believe what you will. Yeah that even sounds crazy.
I do admit that I did not change my mind about AMP's after viewing that program. It was my NDE that did it. I did not want to be attacked for what I knew a lot of people would think is absolutely crazy. But now I do not care.
I do admit to picking up streetwalkers. I was in denial. Did bare back with lots of street walkers. DATY with them too. Prospect avenue in Cleveland was my road. I was there at least 3 times a week. I was a crazy lying fool. I lost a lot of girl friends by lying to them where I was.
I often picked up Dee in Canton when she was younger. I picked up Lisa B.
Canton was my kind of town.
I often visited BJD38ds. Barb. She had a hot tub. Kind of overweight but a very nice lady near geauga lake.
I know about all the sex available in Akron. Cleveland. Anywhere in a 500 mile radius. Been to Lisa's more than anyone probably. They knew me by name there. They had a bar and all the girls would sit at the tables waiting for people to walk in. They usually never danced as they just walked up to you and asked if you wanted to go to the back room. Laura was my favorite.
Been with women from Back Page. Craigs List. Plenty of Fish.
Any extra money went for sex. Lots of it.
My favorite AMP was Oriental. Connie was my number one. Been with her at least 25 times. When she left, Sue Gi was the one. I dated her for a while and she wanted to get married. I always parked in the back at the lawyers office parking lot so no one would know I was there. Had to walk past the gay bar in the back through the alley way. Their tinted front window with the shades has a crack in it. Check it out. Often had sex in the shower room. Small and cramped. The little steam room has lots of carvings in the wooden walls of visitors who were there. Had only the front entrance and a side entrance that went into a dark area that was next to the front door. Not sure what Oriental it is called now.
Been to 4 seasons. Parked in the abandoned truck stop lot next door behind the wooden fence and building so no one could see me. Look out for the large pot holes filled with water. Walked around the back of the building. Never used the side or front entrance. Entry fee + 100 tip. 10 bucks off from the ad in the Beacon.
How else would I know these things if I was not involved in it.
You did call me a liar. That I do admit.
Now I also know that you are a liar. We all are. You lie to yourself to justify what you are doing.
You lie to your family. Mom. Dad. Wife. Girl friend. Children. Telling them you are at work. Or at the store.
You may probably sit in your computer room masturbating to porn. Dude, been there done that. All of it.
Yeah I lie. Everyone does. But I am working on not lying any more. Not to myself. Not to anyone. So that is why I posted that post here today.
To let you know that you are not getting away with anything. You may never get caught by the LAW. Your family may never know while here on earth. But everything you do is being watched. I know that for a fact.
I do not frequent here much any more. You are right. I should not be here. But I had to be here. You just would not understand. I have to warn people. It was one of the things I was sent here to do. Sounds crazy right? Yeah, I would have thought so not too long ago.