Even if the numbers are right
[QUOTE=AlTango21;3658840]Is this implying she's not a spinner? Was going to see her.[/QUOTE]5'3" 118 lbs is NOT a definition of a spinner, even if we assume the numbers are accurate. She seems hot and have a good appearance, slender or thin, but NOT a spinner, not by a long shot. Similarly, 5' 0" 115 lbs is just short and thin, still NOT a spinner.
IMHO, spinner has to be short and skinny for almost anyone to be able to pick her up in the air for action. It has to be height-weight proportional, but the lighter the better matched to the definition.
No need to challenge my definition, you can look things up online. And at least checkout MOFO's porn series of "don'tbreakme." Not all young starlets can be casted for that. Some of the girls in that series are indeed 5'3", but almost every girl filmed are less than 110lbs, a lot less if they are shorter than 5'1" .
I'm not arguing that EEC girls are "big." I just consider an inflated usage of spinner as an eyesore.
Speaking of spinners. Cate
Adding to the recent discussion of spinners, I saw Cate from EEC. Numbers on the website are definitely not correct. She's probably a little less than 5'0 and couldn't possibly be more than a 100 lbs.
Very skinny and very hot.
Had a great time with only one hiccup. I asked for a second round and she said the service doesn't offer one. I let her know I had seen several ladies and always gotten a second round. After a little back and forth she gave me a second round which was also great.
This got me wondering how many john's only go for one round with this type of service and if so how one could spend the better part of an hour on just one round.
Yes for the most part but YMMV.
[QUOTE=GoldenGreek;3671814]Are all the girls from EEC GFE (DFK, BBBJ, MSOG etc) or do you have to negotiate that with each individually?[/QUOTE]I've seen 5 girls from EEC and for the most part they are all GFE but it's still YMMV. Out of the 5 - I saw one that did not DFK. Only closed mouth kissing and one did not want to give a BBBJ. She literally said "I don't want to". Finally, one did not want to do MSOG and claimed that it was not offered by the agency but after I explained that I had been there before and it was she agreed and all went well from there. The final two were full GFE (DFK, BBBJ, MSOG).
So I would say it depends. It's not a 100% sure thing that you're going to get a full GFE but more than likely you will either get it or will come pretty close.
Bad News Fellas about EEC prices
I just went to EEC's website and noticed that they have raised the prices from $300 to $325 for nearly all the girls. I had just started with this agency and was looking forward to a long and rewarding relationship, with relatively frequent repeat visits.
I know $25 is not a lot, but it really will be a lot for me. At the very least, $25 is enough of an increase to stop me from being a frequent regular.
Is it worth it for me to express my displeasure to them of the rate increase, or will that just result in me being labelled a complainer?
Oh well.
Hilarious summary of Chicago agencies
EEC sent out the following email and I thought it was an absolutely hilarious summary and tear down of many Chicago agencies:
Hello and Happy New Year's Everyone.
We shall be working hard to bring you new talent every week this year. That is lots of work but it's what we do. H0 liday pricing is still in effect but ends on February 1st. On January 1st we raised our prices by $25 and on February 1st prices will be back to pre-holid at why range. Some girls will be back to their regular $350 and others back to their regular $325. So for the next 25 days you can still take advantage of our generous program.
We saw there was a recent complaint on a forum about our already low prices. We find this unfortunate. We are the l0 west priced at gency in Chicago for the high quality girl next door type models you have come to enjoy.
Our normal non holid at why price structure is $300 to $350.
The c0 mpetition.
Angeli's Angels Kelly Cooper GFE-375 to $500.
(Many of our former employees, exCEC girls, as well as some worn out girls that probably don't even work there anymore.).
CEC -375 to $500.
(Average to High end. And you pay for it).
Chicago Cover Girls -350.
(low quality and older suburbs only).
ECE -300 to $350.
(Decent prices but older and worn girls. Some even over 30 years old).
WetnWild- $400.
(worn out pros and older girls).
Michelle's- $350.
(older and worn out pros very little selection 3 of which came from our company).
You want to see me $200 to $250.
(One of the worst low end at gencies. We are not trying to compete with dr at g addicts and stretch mark city).
In order to attract great talent they must be paid well. We manage to keep prices low for you and compensate our talent appropriately. We think we offer a great value. The best value for Girl Next Door types. We even attract some high end girls as well.
I hope that explains the reasoning behind how we price our services. If $25 is too much then you will have to go see older talent at European Connections or go down to the level of Youwannaseeme. We don't recommend that. However it is your choice.
We should have a new bl0 nde college student starting tomorrow. Stay tuned! It's going to be a great year for our members.
Echo to OfCharlie's point
[QUOTE=Chicago41;3679738]Clipped for brevity.
Stuff like this is why I don't use agencies anymore. The independents get into dumb scraps with each other sometimes too, but a long ass email from an agency just trashing everyone else is unprofessional as hell to me, especially when they're on the boards talking about sticking together and whatever. Besides, the indys pretty much control whoever they're seeing and how often so I think they're usually happier about their chosen career.
Definitely an email good for a few laughs.[/QUOTE]I do think it's a bit unprofessional that EEC owner sent that email. But at the same time, I also agree with Riina and personal knows that EEC reads this forum (and not surprised if owners of other agencies read this forum too). EEC lost fights on TER to a couple of these agencies. So I understand why they emailed their clients about this. Market competition is good for clients.
To be fair, I have posted intel about all these agencies either about their bullpen or agencies themselves. They are all the agencies I would use. Sure EEC's critique has some degree of inflation and self-promotion, so what? Readers can self-adjust. And if you read the forum posts about these agencies from the past, you may arrive similar conclusions. Again, to each of his own, as long as you like the girl you see and do right in front of you and her price is what you like to pay, why do you care which agency she works with?
If nothing else, other than laughs, it is a nice email with intel about alternative options.
Does that job include screening?
[QUOTE=Riina;3679885]Say what you want about EEC, but I've never seen a booker so into his job. This pimp clearly has a talent for recruiting fresh faces. I don't use them because I only care about Ukrainian escorts, everything else is just not my thing. Except Russian Asian Helen, she's on par with the Uki.[/QUOTE]I've been mongering in Chicago for 18 years, verified by just about every agency in the city plus P411 and RS2 K. But EEC says they can't verify me even after providing work information and drivers license. No response, no reply since. Unprofessional in my opinion.