Seeking Arrangements

[QUOTE=Javazer;5223615]Looking to hear input / experience from people who have been with 19 or 20 years old SB. I have never been with one under 21 and right now talking with a 19 why / o, new territory for me. What are they really looking for.[/QUOTE]What others wrote already sums up my experience. Can enjoy the tight body, but overall experiences have not been my best SA experiences by far. IMHO to be a great sex performer requires instinct, drive, and experience. They are almost always short on experience, and the experience they have had often is with drunk 20 yr old guys. Which in turn leads to not so much drive, as that's what they think all sex is like. I have had much better sex with women older than this.

[QUOTE=Bran001;5224205]What others wrote already sums up my experience. Can enjoy the tight body, but overall experiences have not been my best SA experiences by far. IMHO to be a great sex performer requires instinct, drive, and experience. They are almost always short on experience, and the experience they have had often is with drunk 20 yr old guys. Which in turn leads to not so much drive, as that's what they think all sex is like. I have had much better sex with women older than this.[/QUOTE]You are correct on older women, sex are often off the charts and the best experiences I have had are with women in 28 to 38 age range. I just ended a 8 months arrangement with a single mom and it was great although she did not like anal at all, everything else was awesome. Getting tired of seeing her when she started to ask for more help beside weekly allowance. Now she was / is mad, I will post her profile once she comes back on SA.

[QUOTE=EvilTmp;5223972]At their core they are wooooomaaaannn so what do you think they want? Short answer is they want it all. A guy that will turn them on, knows how to touch them, make them feel safe, help them make better choices, and get the most out of the relationship from her perspective. In other words, just like every woman you've ever dated. Aside from that it's like everyone else will tell you, they are in high demand from all sides. I can only imagine the response a very average looking 19 yo gets on tinder or SA. Expect flaking, lame excuses, straight up lying, and various signals that you're expendable in her world.

Once in a while you can hit the jackpot and she will see you as her best option and will put you on a pedestal but if you've met only 1 or 2 in this age range it's not likely going to happen yet. The rewards in this age group are many: fresh, tight, cute, and horny 24/7. Personality wise it's all over the range. From immature and bland to really fun and full of energy. Go out there and report back.[/QUOTE]Haven't had one out of high school yet and looking forward to the first coffee M&G with her. I'm also prepared to hear all sort of excuses. I'm willing to be patient as she looks stunning from the pictures she sent me, hopefully she'll turn out to be a gem in need to be taking care of. Will see.

[URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/90660a6d-2b50-4f11-b8af-73b2011275fd[/URL]

Started talking to this chick. She's new and real. Swotched over the text. Wanted to sell pics but I shut that down. Looks like a meeting will happen. But who knows you gents know more more me.

[QUOTE=MajorJohnson;5223755]Her pictures have been on there before. Anyone asking for gas money, money for phone bill, money to hold off an eviction, all upfront before the first meet is a scammer. Report her as such. Offer to hand her a $100 dollar bill in person when you meet. They'll be some type of excuse.[/QUOTE]Well I told her my worries and she blocked me so I am happy I didn't send anything. I have a thing for ladies 38 to 50 especially when they are trashy looking. But I have found the 27 to 35 crowd best for me.

I've been with a few younger women in the last few years and not from SA. Yes they tend to be much more attractive, better skin, better bodies, softer, and smoother. But they also are very immature (at least the ones I've hung out with). Conversing with them can be really annoying. Hit or miss with sex. Either they are too submissive / clueless or they just don't know what they are doing. I have not met anyone younger than 29-30 on SA. The younger ones on there are really flaky and have absurd expectations.

Lately, I've been trying to find the older trashy ones LOL.

[QUOTE=Javazer;5223615]Looking to hear input / experience from people who have been with 19 or 20 years old SB. I have never been with one under 21 and right now talking with a 19 why / o, new territory for me. What are they really looking for.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=BigStu;5224679]I have a thing for ladies 38 to 50 especially when they are trashy looking. [/QUOTE]If you've not tried Stephie in RI yet, I would highly recommend that you do! Trashy in the way I LIKE! Weed and booze, but never hard drugs. As Forrest Gump would say, "Trashy is as trashy does"! I've yet to think up any outrageous sexually depraved activity that she doesn't enjoy! She's a lady on the streets and a sleazy slutty hoe on the sheets, LOL! .

[QUOTE=JDeller;5220205]I believe this is Krystalp27. Dtf, nice bbbjcimws but not crazy about her physically.[/QUOTE]I appreciate you taking the time to reply.

[QUOTE=ThirdBasePleas;5220114][URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/36d21e96-1ce1-4165-8092-7e7acc266bec[/URL]

She knows what she wants, anyone have any experience?[/QUOTE]I've been going back and forth with her on SA, she said her last SD gave her $900/ meet, crazy!

[QUOTE=KingOfFours;5225514]If you've not tried Stephie in RI yet, I would highly recommend that you do! Trashy in the way I LIKE! Weed and booze, but never hard drugs. As Forrest Gump would say, "Trashy is as trashy does"! I've yet to think up any outrageous sexually depraved activity that she doesn't enjoy! She's a lady on the streets and a sleazy slutty hoe on the sheets, LOL! .[/QUOTE]When I just need raw trashy fun, Stephie is still the go to.

[URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/9a1cd9ba-422a-46fa-91f5-ecaae67061ed[/URL]

So I met up with winnifred. Gitl was a fucking gem. I still have a few to meet up with but this tattoo chick I'm curious about. Wants to meet up with a decent rate. She's a dancer. Just didn't know if she was TGTBT.

[QUOTE=KingOfFours;5225514]If you've not tried Stephie in RI yet, I would highly recommend that you do! Trashy in the way I LIKE! Weed and booze, but never hard drugs. As Forrest Gump would say, "Trashy is as trashy does"! I've yet to think up any outrageous sexually depraved activity that she doesn't enjoy! She's a lady on the streets and a sleazy slutty hoe on the sheets, LOL! .[/QUOTE]So I have met Steph, she does know how to please a man and the price is right. But when I mean older and trashy I don't mean an older lady that let herself go and will just let you do anything you want. I'm looking for a lady who's shorter and slim or athletic (which Steph is neither slim nor athletic or petite). I'm looking for the stripper type who got married had a few kids and then got divorced in their 40's and still has that tight body. Or just a slim or athletic mom in their 40's. Actually had kind of a hilarious meeting and greet with 2 40 something moms. The worst being we did the meet and greet with having some drinks, went to her place, DATY which she loved, I go to push in and do 3 short pumps bare and she was like you need a condom. I was like I should leave. She was pretty pissed. Just not posting the links because neither are on the site anymore and yes I checked if it was just because I was blocked by checking my non paying 2nd account. One said seeking wasnt right for her and the other I haven't hear from.

[QUOTE=KingOfFours;5225514]If you've not tried Stephie in RI yet, I would highly recommend that you do! Trashy in the way I LIKE! Weed and booze, but never hard drugs. As Forrest Gump would say, "Trashy is as trashy does"! I've yet to think up any outrageous sexually depraved activity that she doesn't enjoy! She's a lady on the streets and a sleazy slutty hoe on the sheets, LOL! .[/QUOTE]I've seen her probably 5 times now & yes, everything goes!! I recorded one of our visits. Also, she's very nice. A definite must see.

[URL]https://www.sugardaddymeet.com/[/URL]

It's cheaper than seeking. I ran across it from a recommendation from another monger. Thoughts? Experiences?

[QUOTE=JDeller;5220205]I believe this is Krystalp27. Dtf, nice bbbjcimws but not crazy about her physically.[/QUOTE]I've been talking to her and seems like she's wild. But impossible to find any other reviews. I just want to know if she's worth it. Thungs are always hit or miss.

[QUOTE=GlennDoyle91;5226878][URL]https://www.sugardaddymeet.com/[/URL]

It's cheaper than seeking. I ran across it from a recommendation from another monger. Thoughts? Experiences?[/QUOTE]It has been discussed here before. Another under performing site to take your money.

Hoover from fitch is now on SA.

[URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/81bac2fd-9b9a-4c19-b572-92b6b9532547[/URL]

I agree with Joe's assessment. Frankly, SA is the best of the worst Sugar sites. Nothing has come close to the old days Craigslist or for that matter, the other escort pages.

[QUOTE=Joe1223;5227018]It has been discussed here before. Another under performing site to take your money.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=CkretLuvr;5225836]I've been going back and forth with her on SA, she said her last SD gave her $900/ meet, crazy![/QUOTE]Talked a few times, verification photos, hot as he'll, but starting was $800.

Too much right now.

[QUOTE=LordOfThEeyes;5226071][URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/9a1cd9ba-422a-46fa-91f5-ecaae67061ed[/URL]

So I met up with winnifred. Gitl was a fucking gem. I still have a few to meet up with but this tattoo chick I'm curious about. Wants to meet up with a decent rate. She's a dancer. Just didn't know if she was TGTBT.[/QUOTE]Keep us in the loop on her. I would love to jump on that if she's real. Been chatting with her. Haven't gotten anywhere yet.

Set up a meeting with her, the day of like 2 hours before we are supposed to meet she messages me that she needs me to advance her money for her car insurance or it will be canceled that day. I blocked her and moved on.

[QUOTE=DpmSaturn14;5228265]Keep us in the loop on her. I would love to jump on that if she's real. Been chatting with her. Haven't gotten anywhere yet.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=LordOfThEeyes;5226071][URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/9a1cd9ba-422a-46fa-91f5-ecaae67061ed[/URL]

So I met up with winnifred. Gitl was a fucking gem. I still have a few to meet up with but this tattoo chick I'm curious about. Wants to meet up with a decent rate. She's a dancer. Just didn't know if she was TGTBT.[/QUOTE]"She's a dancer" tells me all I need to know.

[QUOTE=BigStu;5226306]So I have met Steph, she does know how to please a man and the price is right. But when I mean older and trashy I don't mean an older lady that let herself go and will just let you do anything you want. I'm looking for a lady who's shorter and slim or athletic (which Steph is neither slim nor athletic or petite). I'm looking for the stripper type who got married had a few kids and then got divorced in their 40's and still has that tight body. Or just a slim or athletic mom in their 40's. Actually had kind of a hilarious meeting and greet with 2 40 something moms. The worst being we did the meet and greet with having some drinks, went to her place, DATY which she loved, I go to push in and do 3 short pumps bare and she was like you need a condom. I was like I should leave. She was pretty pissed. Just not posting the links because neither are on the site anymore and yes I checked if it was just because I was blocked by checking my non paying 2nd account. One said seeking wasnt right for her and the other I haven't hear from.[/QUOTE]Hmmm. Maybe Monica? CIP for about 120. My old pics of her can be found in posts 1214 and 1216, here:

[URL]http://www.usasexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?5098-Escort-Reports&p=4871616[/URL]#post4871616.

Absolutely no condoms needed, for me or for anyone else according to intel! But be advised those pics are several years old. Maybe someone has more recent pictures? Anyone? Beuler?

[QUOTE=BigStu;5226306]So I have met Steph, she does know how to please a man and the price is right. But when I mean older and trashy I don't mean an older lady that let herself go and will just let you do anything you want. I'm looking for a lady who's shorter and slim or athletic (which Steph is neither slim nor athletic or petite). I'm looking for the stripper type who got married had a few kids and then got divorced in their 40's and still has that tight body. Or just a slim or athletic mom in their 40's. Actually had kind of a hilarious meeting and greet with 2 40 something moms. [/QUOTE]I do agree that Stephie is too tall to be "petite", but I would disagree about slim or athletic. I would indeed consider her build to be quite athletic, and slim. Not a spinner, though, surely! And definitely not skinny nor anorexic. It is true that she has a small "mommy belly" which hangs a bit, which she tends to cover with a wrap. Some of my more recent pics of her are here, post 436, which are several months old:

[URL]http://www.usasexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?30617-SB-SA-thread&p=4931179&viewfull=1[/URL]#post4931179.

Are you saying she looks any different now?

[URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/8984e46b-9c6b-4d51-bcfe-68799007b3e8[/URL]

Here is her message after we talked for a few days.

T can we continue this conversation some other time unless you want to talk. My brothers been in a coma for a week from an over dose We're taking him off machine tomorrow. He's been brain dead for a week and his brain stem is crushed. I'm trying to set up a go fund me now we're ganna creamate him so we can have part of him plus moneys tight and we're ganna have something for him in a couple months family wise. I'm ganna sleep with him again tonight. But I'm so stressed and sad and no one is motivated so I'm putting everything together and the go fund me I guess doesn't even give you the money you raise until a couple weeks after the achieves goal. I'm so sad I have so much pain. I'm sorry to come out of the blue like this. This is a bad way to meet I'm sorry I never lost anyone before and he was my best friend.

(spidey sense of course going off, but it costs nothing to be nice).

So I say of course take care of your family.

Lunaluvvbb about 16 hours agoand eve.

Would you be interested in swapping numbers maybe doing some pics and videos for cash app. I want to contribute as much as I can to the service if it's not your thing I understand.

20 years ago when I was trolling aol, there was that scam a hot girl wanted to meet but all of the sudden her dad died and she needed a third of the funeral money (usually under 500) and even though I lived within 15 miles she needed it western unioned. LOL.

[QUOTE=KingOfFours;5231775]I do agree that Stephie is too tall to be "petite", but I would disagree about slim or athletic. I would indeed consider her build to be quite athletic, and slim. Not a spinner, though, surely! And definitely not skinny nor anorexic. It is true that she has a small "mommy belly" which hangs a bit, which she tends to cover with a wrap. Some of my more recent pics of her are here, post 436, which are several months old:

[URL]http://www.usasexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?30617-SB-SA-thread&p=4931179&viewfull=1[/URL]#post4931179.

Are you saying she looks any different now?[/QUOTE]Slim and athletic is exactly that, slim or athletic. Steph is neither slim nor athletic. Like you said she has a small mom belly that is neither slim or athletic, just because she's older doesn't mean the standards drop for being slim or athletic. She probably wears a large or xl panty were if she took good care of herself she'd wear a medium. She provides amazing service at an amazing price but I'd rather pay more for a tighter body. Because her body isn't tight. Though with her price being so great I do drop in from time to time for 2 or 3 rounds.

And I have met and been with 40 or 50 something moms with slim or athletic tight bodies. Of course after running into a bunch of 40's somethings that wanted condoms I switched back to 20 and 30 somethings and found a great fit. I should do a review soon of the ladies I found that I am not seeing anymore.

Also, I feeling like almost ever lady I met has a story about their last sd being a unicorn and giving them 700 to 1200 each meet. Though I get some weird stories, like one girl gets 1200 each week when she goes to her sd's orgy party and gets with whomever he tells her 2 and then he wants sloppy 2 nds, cum and all. She never heard of condoms but her base rate is 500, I lucked out we each had 6 drinks over 4 hrs at a bar and then went back to my room for 300. Not every story ends that well. But I think I found a lady that fits my needs really well. Hence why I'll post the others I have seen soon.

Wants 6 to 7 k a month.

[QUOTE=BigStu;5235009]Slim and athletic is exactly that, slim or athletic. Steph is neither slim nor athletic. Like you said she has a small mom belly that is neither slim or athletic, just because she's older doesn't mean the standards drop for being slim or athletic. She probably wears a large or xl panty were if she took good care of herself she'd wear a medium. She provides amazing service at an amazing price but I'd rather pay more for a tighter body. Because her body isn't tight. Though with her price being so great I do drop in from time to time for 2 or 3 rounds.

And I have met and been with 40 or 50 something moms with slim or athletic tight bodies. Of course after running into a bunch of 40's somethings that wanted condoms I switched back to 20 and 30 somethings and found a great fit. I should do a review soon of the ladies I found that I am not seeing anymore.

Also, I feeling like almost ever lady I met has a story about their last sd being a unicorn and giving them 700 to 1200 each meet. Though I get some weird stories, like one girl gets 1200 each week when she goes to her sd's orgy party and gets with whomever he tells her 2 and then he wants sloppy 2 nds, cum and all. She never heard of condoms but her base rate is 500, I lucked out we each had 6 drinks over 4 hrs at a bar and then went back to my room for 300. Not every story ends that well. But I think I found a lady that fits my needs really well. Hence why I'll post the others I have seen soon.[/QUOTE]After talking with lots of girls on seeking over time. There are guys who spend that much. They have too because it's the only way for them to get the girls full attention. The girls told me they hated the guys but the money was too much to refuse. No reason to go above 500 PPM. As someone said there is no correlation between money and quality. The desperate that spend 700 and more all the time are the ones that have too.

[QUOTE=Tribeca67;5235902]Wants 6 to 7 k a month.[/QUOTE]I saw that one today. There's one born every minute so who knows?

I saw barenecessity (Kayla) again recently. She's an escort but is very hot and has an open menu, so kind of just depends on what you're looking for. She hosts in her place in Dorchester. Safe location. Everything was uncovered and 2. 5 for a couple hours. Attached is her private pic.

https://www.seeking.com/member/a936040d-b448-491b-acd9-b9d96ebc40c5

[QUOTE=NerdyGuy12;5236868]I saw barenecessity (Kayla) again recently. She's an escort but is very hot and has an open menu, so kind of just depends on what you're looking for. She hosts in her place in Dorchester. Safe location. Everything was uncovered and 2. 5 for a couple hours. Attached is her private pic.

https://www.seeking.com/member/a936040d-b448-491b-acd9-b9d96ebc40c5[/QUOTE]Nice. She looming hot in picture. I might try soon. Was more thanne pop allowed in that couple hours? Did you need her put first and she invited straight to her place?

Are you talking to her? Yeah, I popped twice in her. She invited me straight to her place. No meet and greet necessary.

[QUOTE=Ymch520;5236887]Nice. She looming hot in picture. I might try soon. Was more thanne pop allowed in that couple hours? Did you need her put first and she invited straight to her place?[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=NerdyGuy12;5236868]I saw barenecessity (Kayla) again recently. She's an escort but is very hot and has an open menu, so kind of just depends on what you're looking for. She hosts in her place in Dorchester. Safe location. Everything was uncovered and 2. 5 for a couple hours. Attached is her private pic.

https://www.seeking.com/member/a936040d-b448-491b-acd9-b9d96ebc40c5[/QUOTE]She was discussed a lot here a few months ago. Does she advert on escort sites too now? Guys here were all excited about her BBFS until they realized how many guys she was doing bare every day!

LOL yes I remember that. She was able to produce a negative std test, for what it's worth. I've seen her on Skip the Games occasionally, although I can't seem to find her right now.

[QUOTE=Bran001;5237153]She was discussed a lot here a few months ago. Does she advert on escort sites too now? Guys here were all excited about her BBFS until they realized how many guys she was doing bare every day![/QUOTE]

Soo is this basically an escort site? Or just sugar babies?

Like I'm no baller at all LOL but if I can hang out with some of these more UTR girls thatd be dope LOL. But like I'm definitely no sugar daddy.

So is it easy to set something up? And what are usual prices?

[QUOTE=NerdyGuy12;5237169]LOL yes I remember that. She was able to produce a negative std test, for what it's worth. I've seen her on Skip the Games occasionally, although I can't seem to find her right now.[/QUOTE]I remember texting her at that time but she stopped responding. If anyone could remind me of the number, it's in my texts somewhere.

[QUOTE=Fractilian;5237298]Soo is this basically an escort site? Or just sugar babies?

Like I'm no baller at all LOL but if I can hang out with some of these more UTR girls thatd be dope LOL. But like I'm definitely no sugar daddy.

So is it easy to set something up? And what are usual prices?[/QUOTE]Some of each. And other variants. There is no single definition of "sugar baby" these days; the lines all blur. There are definitely students and young professionals who are looking for a relationship with ONE guy who'll treat them well. And there definitely are escorts. And girls who just want to sell pics and vids, and / or drive traffic to their OF site. And outright scammers. It's all there.

Both. I think a true SB is someone that you give a set allowance too on a set schedule. Basically, she's on your personal payroll. She works for you (so to speak). That's how I see it. I've never done that. I always do PPM, which to me is close to having an escort. The only difference with PPM is that the woman may spend multiple hours with you and not see other guys or just a handful.

Its a thin line. When you are paying for sex, it is what it is. Sugar baby is just a nicer term for them to accept they are getting paid for sex. Anyway, I'm sure there are varying opinions on all this. In the end, it doesn't matter as long as everyone is happy.

[QUOTE=Fractilian;5237298]Soo is this basically an escort site? Or just sugar babies?

Like I'm no baller at all LOL but if I can hang out with some of these more UTR girls thatd be dope LOL. But like I'm definitely no sugar daddy.

So is it easy to set something up? And what are usual prices?[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=OkWhatever;5237764]Both. I think a true SB is someone that you give a set allowance too on a set schedule. Basically, she's on your personal payroll. She works for you (so to speak). That's how I see it. I've never done that. I always do PPM, which to me is close to having an escort. The only difference with PPM is that the woman may spend multiple hours with you and not see other guys or just a handful.

Its a thin line. When you are paying for sex, it is what it is. Sugar baby is just a nicer term for them to accept they are getting paid for sex. Anyway, I'm sure there are varying opinions on all this. In the end, it doesn't matter as long as everyone is happy.[/QUOTE]I have always broken it down to 3 categories especially when talking to a potential sugar baby. But the break down I tell them is:

Escort. Paid for sex, has a menu for different things they do and charges by the hour. Will see anyone.

Pro Sugar Baby. Paid for sex, has a menu & might charge by the hour. Will not see everyone, wants there to be some chemistry. Usually has 2 to 5 regular SD's they see a few times a month & a few one off's. This is their only source of money.

Sugar Baby. Paid for an experience that includes FWB (sex) & dinner / drinks. Will not see everyone in fact wants their to be chemistry and wants to do a meet and greet. Usually has their own job.

This usually comes up because at the meet and greet I sometimes get complaints of old guys or nasty guys coming straight out in the message or at a meet and greet offering money for sex, because that's not my style I don't bring it up until the end or maybe not even until the 2nd meet and greet. Now that straight asking tons of ladies for sex for money works for a small %. We've all heard the example of the guy at the bar who asks 50 ladies to sleep with him, gets slapped by a bunch and has drinks thrown in his face by others but 1 out of 50 each night will sleep with him (though she's probably drunk). LOL I think my sales director told me that story 20 years ago when I was starting out in business and his point was sales is a numbers game. But it still holds true with ladies, it works for KoF on SA.

I prefer short term or long term SB's but have had some great one off's with pro sugar babies, especially if you they are short a little on a bill or you really connect over a meet and greet.

Getting a lot of requests 617 for 586 her 0573 number.

[QUOTE=MajorVX;5237332]I remember texting her at that time but she stopped responding. If anyone could remind me of the number, it's in my texts somewhere.[/QUOTE]