[QUOTE=Roush427;2103868]Didn't think you knew I was old ugly and bald, LOL just sayin Roush.[/QUOTE]Aren't we as all friend Roush?
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[QUOTE=Roush427;2103868]Didn't think you knew I was old ugly and bald, LOL just sayin Roush.[/QUOTE]Aren't we as all friend Roush?
LexLuther.
[QUOTE=LexLuther;2104259]Aren't we as all friend Roush?
LexLuther.[/QUOTE]WELLLL. . . I'm not THAT fat. . .
LD.
K as a first off, I am a younger guy myself. I was introduced into the hobby on deployments and got the bug instantly. As far as AMPs around the area, zen is nice. I have never been turned down a good time because I was younger.. In fact I got more than others bc I was eye candy foe the ladies. One rule of thumb is don't act nervous at all and don't ask questions, just assume. I have seen MANY providers and always get a look of "of wow" after I confirm I'm not LEO. This works in favor of me and I've even gotten numbers. This is my 2 cents.
[QUOTE=LexLuther;2103837]AMPs are not for young white guys. If you are young and in shape, why don't you go to a bar and pick up a girl and get fucked for free. You are going to have problems visiting an AMP. They are really for old, bald, ugly white guys. Get over it.
LexLuther.[/QUOTE]I am quite in agreement with Lex on this one...
Go play the freebie field young man .
[QUOTE=LurkingDog;2104345]WELLLL. . . I'm not THAT fat. . darts .[/QUOTE]I guess its all relative. Suffice it to say that most guys who frequent AMPs are no longer in their prime. Some of us have more failed marriages and failed relationships under our belts than we care to admit to. While others, I am sure, are in their first and only decades long marriage, have never really cheated on their wives, but find that the passion and sex disappeared a long time ago. For these guys, an occasional visit to an AMP does not constitute cheating and, in fact, allows them to stay both sane and married.
For the young guys out there, you will end up like us old farts eventually. Don't ever forget that. So treasure you youth, for it will quickly pass. And then, like us older guys, you too will recite this mantra:
I will not ever be as good as I once was. But I'm as good once as I ever was.
LexLuther.
Howdy,
I read this forum a lot but have not posted in long, long time. I used to live in Savannah, but moved to Charleston about a year ago for work. Going thru my first divorce right now and I would say that Zen helped me hold it together and keep my sanity for the past year. I agree with Lex that AMPs are not for a single young guy that can get the real deal. As you get older not only do you get bald, fat, and uglier, but your game definitely goes downhill also, which makes you lean on BP girls and AMPs all the more, LOL. Zen is by far the best around, but I don't care for their blind rotation. You find a nice lady there and you might never see her again in a year with that damned rotation on who answers the door there. Sometimes you do well other times it is a nasty one rubbing you down. I've been going to Green spa lately and I like it. The lady there is older and a little too thin, but she gives a great massage and he. She must live there 24/7 cause everytime she is there and I don't have to deal with any bs rotation there. Good value per dollar. I would never go back to Golden dragon on 17, not ever! Best massage I got this year was from Karisma in Goose Creek, but I don't see her ad on BP anymore, likely a good thing cause I would have spent too much on her, LOL. Gina is west ashley looks pretty damn good too, but I don't agencies and screening. I have a high profile job and that crap makes me very nervous. Some of these girls are crazy with the screening like I'm applying for a job with top secret security clearance or something. I stay away from those, although some look very hot. Anyway, zen and green spa get my vote.
[QUOTE=DrBruceBanner;2104668]I am quite in agreement with Lex on this one...
Go play the freebie field young man .[/QUOTE]Most of us have been around long enough to know free is never free. And that's one reason we do what we do here!
[QUOTE=lexluther;2104803]i guess its all relative. Suffice it to say that most guys who frequent amps are no longer in their prime. Some of us have more failed marriages and failed relationships under our belts than we care to admit to. While others, i am sure, are in their first and only decades long marriage, have never really cheated on their wives, but find that the passion and sex disappeared a long time ago. For these guys, an occasional visit to an amp does not constitute cheating and, in fact, allows them to stay both sane and married.
For the young guys out there, you will end up like us old farts eventually. Don't ever forget that. So treasure you youth, for it will quickly pass. And then, like us older guys, you too will recite this mantra:
I will not ever be as good as i once was. But i'm as good once as i ever was.
Lexluther.[/QUOTE]The better we were.
[QUOTE=NervousHofukkr;2104830]Howdy,
I read this forum a lot but have not posted in long, long time. I used to live in Savannah, but moved to Charleston about a year ago for work. Going thru my first divorce right now and I would say that Zen helped me hold it together and keep my sanity for the past year. I agree with Lex that AMPs are not for a single young guy that can get the real deal. As you get older not only do you get bald, fat, and uglier, but your game definitely goes downhill also, which makes you lean on BP girls and AMPs all the more, LOL. Zen is by far the best around, but I don't care for their blind rotation. You find a nice lady there and you might never see her again in a year with that damned rotation on who answers the door there. Sometimes you do well other times it is a nasty one rubbing you down. I've been going to Green spa lately and I like it. The lady there is older and a little too thin, but she gives a great massage and he. She must live there 24/7 cause everytime she is there and I don't have to deal with any bs rotation there. Good value per dollar. I would never go back to Golden dragon on 17, not ever! Best massage I got this year was from Karisma in Goose Creek, but I don't see her ad on BP anymore, likely a good thing cause I would have spent too much on her, LOL. Gina is west ashley looks pretty damn good too, but I don't agencies and screening. I have a high profile job and that crap makes me very nervous. Some of these girls are crazy with the screening like I'm applying for a job with top secret security clearance or something. I stay away from those, although some look very hot. Anyway, zen and green spa get my vote.[/QUOTE]I would have to agree with everything you said here. I have to be careful with my job also so I know what you are saying. I love zen by far the best however green spa is really closely behind. The only problem with green spa is where it is located.
[QUOTE=MDublin;2104846]Most of us have been around long enough to know free is never free. And that's one reason we do what we do here![/QUOTE]When you are both young and un-jaded, free is absolutely free. At least it was for me at that age. Either you are still young and are making things more complicated than they need to be, or you are so old you have forgotten.
LexLuther.
Does anyone know anything about Nina?
I have been looking through BP.
But cannot find any info on her.
Had an earlier in the week visit to Zen and drew Sarah at the door. Taller than the rest and quite attractive.
TS was quite nice and massage wasn't too bad either. The girl has strong hands.
She did seem a little too fond of the finger however. I don't really mind a girl playing with my ass.
A bit but. Phew. Had to adjust position on that one. Still had an excellent finish and I left a smiling happy camper.
Stay safe out there.
[QUOTE=Superstreet843;2108850]Does anyone know anything about Nina?
I have been looking through BP.
But cannot find any info on her. [/QUOTE]Save your money and time. There is much better out there.
LexLuther.
[QUOTE=NervousHofukkr;2104830]Howdy,
. . . Zen is by far the best around, but I don't care for their blind rotation. You find a nice lady there and you might never see her again in a year with that damned rotation on who answers the door there. Sometimes you do well other times it is a nasty one rubbing you down. I've been going to Green spa lately and I like it. . . . zen and green spa get my vote. [/QUOTE]I've been going to Zen but I don't know what you mean by the "damned rotation" I just go in and ask for my lady of choice and there is never a problem. In fact, I have called ahead and asked for an appointment with said masseuse and again have never been disappointed.
LD.
I went Green Spa on Remount about 2 weeks ago and Bonnie was my masseuse. She is a little bit older than I like but she gives a pretty good massage. She was not rush. Spent probably 45 to 50 minutes in there. I will probably repeat. Left with a smile.
[QUOTE=LurkingDog;2109985]I've been going to Zen but I don't know what you mean by the "damned rotation" I just go in and ask for my lady of choice and there is never a problem. In fact, I have called ahead and asked for an appointment with said masseuse and again have never been disappointed.
LD. [/QUOTE]I'm sure you're right. It's been a while since I went there. When I first started going there was a lady there I really liked, can't remember her name anymore. I asked for her a few times but was always told I couldn't do that. Must have been a YMMV type of thing since you seem to get what you want there. The language barrier might also have come into play with that experience. Zen is truly a unique treasure, but Green spa is also close to my job which makes for a pretty sweet lunch break, LOL.
Decided to give Green a try instead of Zen and went the other day. Provider was, of course, older but not unattractive. Massage was okay but nothing special. Little roaming allowed. Finish was again okay but nothing special. Should have gone to Zen duh! Will not be going back will stick with Zen.
GTG.
[QUOTE=GoodTimeGuy;2111622]Decided to give Green a try instead of Zen and went the other day. Provider was, of course, older but not unattractive. Massage was okay but nothing special. Little roaming allowed. Finish was again okay but nothing special. Should have gone to Zen duh! Will not be going back will stick with Zen.
GTG.[/QUOTE]I don't post often, but thought I would renig on my recommendation on Green. I visited them when they first opened, went back this week, a waste of time, prices kept changing from $50/ HH, then 60/ HH and then 70 whole hour. I actually felt they were beyond rude, I guess we all make mistakes once in a while. Will not visit them again. Stick with the providers you trust and know, this group is a bit lost.
[QUOTE=Jonnymac;2119799]I don't post often, but thought I would renig on my recommendation on Green. I visited them when they first opened, went back this week, a waste of time, prices kept changing from $50/ HH, then 60/ HH and then 70 whole hour. I actually felt they were beyond rude, I guess we all make mistakes once in a while. Will not visit them again. Stick with the providers you trust and know, this group is a bit lost.[/QUOTE]First I am a 100% Zen supporter and is my go to AMP. With that said I have to defend Green half way. What I mean is that there are two providers at Green that I have had contact. Both are on the more mature side, one is average height and build and the other a bit shorter and stocky. The average height persons name is Bonnie and to me she has always been very pleasant. She gives a good massage with attention to the knots and soft tissue, I've had worst from legit LMT's. The other one I will not go back to again. In fact my little escape technique is I walk in with my phone to my ear and if I see a person I don't want to use I put up my finger and say "Just a min" then hang up and say "Sorry but my plans have just changed and will need to come back latter". IMHO Bonnie could work at Zen and give the same type of service if not maybe even a little better. But I will say that all of the people at Zen are a bit younger and a bit better looking. If you want details senior members can PM me.
Visited Green. Parking is too visible and wide open. Would probabay not go during day again. Agree with the many other reviews stating it is average at best. Would not make it in bigger city.
Been to Zen twice. Best game in town in terms of AMP.
I got to say I love me some Zen. Never a bad experience.
So now that her ads mention reciprocal touch, has anybody tried the "new" level of service?? I've been curious, but with so many negative reviews, I'd rather let one of her "regulars" give us an update.
[QUOTE=Voyrinsc;2124617]So now that her ads mention reciprocal touch, has anybody tried the "new" level of service?? I've been curious, but with so many negative reviews, I'd rather let one of her "regulars" give us an update.[/QUOTE]I had a dream with her once many, many moons ago. Fantastic massage, strong hands. With a nice simple manual release. Only touching allowed was brief upper chest.
Once I had time to contemplate that dream, I quietly "assumed" there was a reason why none has ever experienced more. She is a he. Just a wild guess, but it kinda makes sense. (insert Crying Game reference here).
Still hold out hope that my assumptions were wrong.
Be.
[QUOTE=Voyrinsc;2124617]So now that her ads mention reciprocal touch, has anybody tried the "new" level of service?? I've been curious, but with so many negative reviews, I'd rather let one of her "regulars" give us an update.[/QUOTE]Voyrinsc I plan on visiting her this weekend. Although she is not much to write home about in the "extras" department, she is the best when it comes to massaging back, legs and feet. Since mine are killing me I decided to make an appointment with her. If no one gives you an update by the weekend than ill let you know how the new level of service is.
[QUOTE=DrBruceBanner;2124672]I had a dream with her once many, many moons ago. Fantastic massage, strong hands. With a nice simple manual release. Only touching allowed was brief upper chest.
Once I had time to contemplate that dream, I quietly "assumed" there was a reason why none has ever experienced more. She is a he. Just a wild guess, but it kinda makes sense. (insert Crying Game reference here).
Still hold out hope that my assumptions were wrong.
Be.[/QUOTE]I didn't have that sense at all. I just felt that she was uptight and / or doesn't particularly like men. When you think about it, she is attractive for her age. So why is she alone? If she had a relationship, she would not have to pull guys' members for a living.
But your intuition is intriguing. It may be time for another visit to re-examine my perceptions. But again, her tits seemed quite womanly to me. It would be interesting to ask her and see how she replies.
LexLuther.
[QUOTE=SuperFly79;2124936]Voyrinsc I plan on visiting her this weekend. Although she is not much to write home about in the "extras" department, she is the best when it comes to massaging back, legs and feet. Since mine are killing me I decided to make an appointment with her. If no one gives you an update by the weekend than ill let you know how the new level of service is.[/QUOTE]You obviously have not tried any of the local Chinese establishments. The one on Wappoo Rd. Is probably the best. The masseuses have very strong hands. And their facial massages are grest.
LexLuther.
[QUOTE=LexLuther;2125013]You obviously have not tried any of the local Chinese establishments. The one on Wappoo Rd. Is probably the best. The masseuses have very strong hands. And their facial massages are grest.
LexLuther.[/QUOTE]Lex, I have not tried any local one as of yet. But every one I have been to they seem to never ever massage my feet and do a half ass job on my legs. This is the area I need massaged the most and the few times I went to see Veronica that is the area she concentrated on. If there is another establishment that does concentrate on those areas I'm all ears because Veronica is a bit too high for all the she offers.
[QUOTE=SuperFly79;2125858]Lex, I have not tried any local one as of yet. But every one I have been to they seem to never ever massage my feet and do a half ass job on my legs. This is the area I need massaged the most and the few times I went to see Veronica that is the area she concentrated on. If there is another establishment that does concentrate on those areas I'm all ears because Veronica is a bit too high for all the she offers.[/QUOTE]Well that makes sense. If the masseuse doesn't ask you which areas need attention, then you need to give her direction. But again, I heartily recommend Wappoo Rd.
LexLuther.
After being a long time customer of Golden Dragon, I decided to give Zen a try, everyone on here seems to be a fan. On the advice of this forum, I said I had been there before and will say for sure, I will go back. The girls were younger, way hotter, and the one who rubbed me seemed to enjoy it (or at least acted like it. LOL) Better price, better service all around. I only saw to girls there, both were young, thin and hot! Great attention in the shower, good rub, and a fantastic flip. Felt like I could have got more than just the handshake, but I didn't really try, it was good enough for a quick hour long visit. I probably will not go back to golden dragon ever unless this place closes!
[QUOTE=BackwoodsGuy;2128217]After being a long time customer of Golden Dragon, I decided to give Zen a try, everyone on here seems to be a fan. On the advice of this forum, I said I had been there before and will say for sure, I will go back. The girls were younger, way hotter, and the one who rubbed me seemed to enjoy it (or at least acted like it. LOL) Better price, better service all around. I only saw to girls there, both were young, thin and hot! Great attention in the shower, good rub, and a fantastic flip. Felt like I could have got more than just the handshake, but I didn't really try, it was good enough for a quick hour long visit. I probably will not go back to golden dragon ever unless this place closes![/QUOTE]I haven't been there in a while but, unless something has changed, I wouldn't count on more than a handshake. That's one of the reasons I stopped going there, I don't like the feeling of hitting a wall. The other reason was the lack of doors.
[QUOTE=JohnStillBored;2128467]I haven't been there in a while but, unless something has changed, I wouldn't count on more than a handshake. That's one of the reasons I stopped going there, I don't like the feeling of hitting a wall. The other reason was the lack of doors.[/QUOTE]I agree. If I feel like throwing money away, I would just as soon go to Asiana. Although the girls there are typically older and less than beautiful.
LexLuther.
[QUOTE=LexLuther;2129297]I agree. If I feel like throwing money away, I would just as soon go to Asiana. Although the girls there are typically older and less than beautiful.
LexLuther.[/QUOTE]True enough. Asiana has the distinction of being the only AMP I've ever gone into, got a massage and passed on extras. I played dumb and pretended I didn't know what the (extremely unattractive and old enough to be my mother) woman was talking about when she asked if I wanted anything else. She wasn't exactly forthcoming so I chalked it up to a long drive for a half assed massage.
When it comes to Zen, I kind of don't get the hype. Yes it's an AMP in the strictest of terms. By that, I mean it's a massage parlor with an Asian staff. Yes, you can get what we're all looking for there. However, I have had much better mileage at the other non Asian place off Rivers. Practically every *ahem* therapist there will at least take her top off and let you play with "the girls" during the flip. Some will let you do a lot more. The closest I've come to that at Zen was that one girl let me go under her clothes once and stopped me when I started getting into it-she actually said "Ok. No more," moved my hand out from under there and quickly finished the handshake.
I was at an AMP in Atlanta 10 years ago and my *ahem* therapist was a gorgeous little k-girl who knew all the right spots and how to work them and then practically begged me for FS. When we were done, she dressed me. I'm sure the majority of it was an act but I don't care, she sold it well enough for my needs and that's what matters in the end.
They appeared closed or at least not open fir the day yet. Ended up swinging by Vitality.
The massage was quite enjoyable but a little quick. However the flip was more than worth it.
Tina will now be a regular visit or at least worked into the rotation.
I have been given the go from the big guys up at the VA to seek outside of clinic a physical therapist. I mentioned that I usually get massages to treat my headaches and stress. I was looking around online and apparently there are physical therapist that also offer massages, which is the route I want to go. And I was wondering how bad ass it would be to have one that did a good flip! Unfortunately I can't find and outside of bigger established businesses that I could probe for possibilities. Anyone know of a gal that is licensed through physical therapy that has a good reputation or at least recommend a business that had attractive ladies?
Thanks.
[QUOTE=SuperFly79;2124936]Voyrinsc I plan on visiting her this weekend. Although she is not much to write home about in the "extras" department, she is the best when it comes to massaging back, legs and feet. Since mine are killing me I decided to make an appointment with her. If no one gives you an update by the weekend than ill let you know how the new level of service is.[/QUOTE]So how did things go with Veronica? Any improvement?
[QUOTE=Voyrinsc;2131867]So how did things go with Veronica? Any improvement?[/QUOTE]I made an appointment through her website and I never got a response or conformation about my appointment time. I tried to contact her but I got no response there as well. Not sure if I will try again, this is the second time this has happened to me.
Saw the add on Clist, and figured for 50 bucks, why not check it out. Well, the add was about as misleading as it gets.
[URL]http://charleston.craigslist.org/thp/4539905419.html[/URL]
I did get a damn good massage by someones granny, the chic was at least 50 if not older, and the other one I saw was prob 40+. I was not offered a table shower, and No extras were offered, I doubt seriously I would have accepted anyway. She Did do a great job with the massage though, hot rocks were nice, I felt terrific when I left, and had a pretty sore back when I went in. If you need a good massage this place is a great deal, if your looking for fun, don't waste your time.
[QUOTE=BackwoodsGuy;2135908]Saw the add on Clist, and figured for 50 bucks, why not check it out. Well, the add was about as misleading as it gets.
[URL]http://charleston.craigslist.org/thp/4539905419.html[/URL]
I did get a damn good massage by someones granny, the chic was at least 50 if not older, and the other one I saw was prob 40+. I was not offered a table shower, and No extras were offered, I doubt seriously I would have accepted anyway. She Did do a great job with the massage though, hot rocks were nice, I felt terrific when I left, and had a pretty sore back when I went in. If you need a good massage this place is a great deal, if your looking for fun, don't waste your time.[/QUOTE]That place has been open for a long time and is not known for much as far as extras are concerned.
LexLuther.
That place has been open for a long time and is not known for much as far as extras are concerned.
LexLuther.
Lex is right, but it is also a YMMV place and I have left happy in the past, but it was with a specific provider who I don't think works there any more.
Jack.