Anyone know what's going on with KGFE? Lotta unexpected turnover seems like. Wonder if anyone has seen any of the last 3-4 girls who cares to report anything.
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Anyone know what's going on with KGFE? Lotta unexpected turnover seems like. Wonder if anyone has seen any of the last 3-4 girls who cares to report anything.
[QUOTE=Burner77;7213362]Anyone know what's going on with KGFE? Lotta unexpected turnover seems like. Wonder if anyone has seen any of the last 3-4 girls who cares to report anything.[/QUOTE]It seems like they either get a wonderful girl that gets lots of good reviews, and is thus kept busy and happy, or they post totally fake photos of a girl who is less attractive or just not a whole lot of fun, word spreads, and she gets upset at the lack of customers and leaves. It could be that there are other reasons for all the "left early for personal reasons" but that seems to be the trend.
[QUOTE=FastEddie70;7214132]It seems like they either get a wonderful girl that gets lots of good reviews, and is thus kept busy and happy, or they post totally fake photos of a girl who is less attractive or just not a whole lot of fun, word spreads, and she gets upset at the lack of customers and leaves. It could be that there are other reasons for all the "left early for personal reasons" but that seems to be the trend.[/QUOTE]Last one I saw was Diana, and she was pretty good but I concur with this take. Agency has been super hit or miss and IMO, a fair assessment is that the way they hype up some of the girls is misleading. Maybe that's catching up with them. I can only assume it's been slow. The good ones have been great, but I've also straight up walked out on appointments. I do hope they can find a way to bring in more consistent, high quality girls with a verifiable track record but unless they stop posting the fake pics (the latest with the weird AI looking robot hands is awful) and bringing in girls with no reviews, I'll continue avoiding them.
[QUOTE=Cascadia210;7215098]Last one I saw was Diana, and she was pretty good but I concur with this take. Agency has been super hit or miss and IMO, a fair assessment is that the way they hype up some of the girls is misleading. Maybe that's catching up with them. I can only assume it's been slow. The good ones have been great, but I've also straight up walked out on appointments. I do hope they can find a way to bring in more consistent, high quality girls with a verifiable track record but unless they stop posting the fake pics (the latest with the weird AI looking robot hands is awful) and bringing in girls with no reviews, I'll continue avoiding them.[/QUOTE]I have been saying it for a while now, those pictures get more and more odd.
[QUOTE=Pdx503;7215381]I have been saying it for a while now, those pictures get more and more odd.[/QUOTE]Look at the pic that's up there now above the "stay tuned" message. Weird as fuck. Each arm looks to be about 5 feet long. Bizarre gigantic eyeballs that appear to be 3 inches in diameter. Misshapen nippleless tits. And the freakish robot hand.
If I actually saw a human in real life that looked like her, I would literally gasp in horror (although an actual robot hand could be interesting in a kinky sort of way). I know that most kgirl agencies do this to some degree, but I think the idea is usually to touch up actual photos of the girl, not just generate a completely fake image of an imaginary human-like object. KGFE is a joke.
The end result of using these stupid ass images is that I won't take a chance on any of their providers, because I have no idea what they're actually going to look like. So I'll wait for reviews to roll in, but by the time that happens, the girl is often already on her way out of town.
And that's why I've used kgirl agencies in LA 10 x more than in Portland, even though I live in Portland and I'm only in LA about 5% of the time.
Get your shit together, KGFE.
[QUOTE=BeavertronDoug;7215806]Look at the pic that's up there now above the "stay tuned" message. Weird as fuck. Each arm looks to be about 5 feet long. Bizarre gigantic eyeballs that appear to be 3 inches in diameter. Misshapen nippleless tits. And the freakish robot hand.
If I actually saw a human in real life that looked like her, I would literally gasp in horror (although an actual robot hand could be interesting in a kinky sort of way). I know that most kgirl agencies do this to some degree, but I think the idea is usually to touch up actual photos of the girl, not just generate a completely fake image of an imaginary human-like object. KGFE is a joke.
The end result of using these stupid ass images is that I won't take a chance on any of their providers, because I have no idea what they're actually going to look like. So I'll wait for reviews to roll in, but by the time that happens, the girl is often already on her way out of town.
And that's why I've used kgirl agencies in LA 10 x more than in Portland, even though I live in Portland and I'm only in LA about 5% of the time.
Get your shit together, KGFE.[/QUOTE]Oh, f* that! (Actually, ~not~!)
I cannot *stand* AI. For anything. I can tolerate some Photoshop airbrushing here and there, but that's riDICulous.
[QUOTE=BeavertronDoug;7215806]Look at the pic that's up there now above the "stay tuned" message. Weird as fuck. Each arm looks to be about 5 feet long. Bizarre gigantic eyeballs that appear to be 3 inches in diameter. Misshapen nippleless tits. And the freakish robot hand.
If I actually saw a human in real life that looked like her, I would literally gasp in horror (although an actual robot hand could be interesting in a kinky sort of way). I know that most kgirl agencies do this to some degree, but I think the idea is usually to touch up actual photos of the girl, not just generate a completely fake image of an imaginary human-like object. KGFE is a joke.
The end result of using these stupid ass images is that I won't take a chance on any of their providers, because I have no idea what they're actually going to look like. So I'll wait for reviews to roll in, but by the time that happens, the girl is often already on her way out of town.
And that's why I've used kgirl agencies in LA 10 x more than in Portland, even though I live in Portland and I'm only in LA about 5% of the time.
Get your shit together, KGFE.[/QUOTE]What have you been paying at the LA agencies? How long of a session and please tell us about the services you received and what the interior of the apartments were like.
[QUOTE=WarpFactor69;7216191]What have you been paying at the LA agencies? How long of a session and please tell us about the services you received and what the interior of the apartments were like.[/QUOTE]I posted about that recently here:
[URL]http://www.usasexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?36278-K-girl-and-other-Asian-agencies&p=7190989&viewfull=1#post7190989[/URL]
Standard rates are around 320/ hr for girls of same caliber as KGFE, sometimes that includes BBFS, sometimes it's +50. Sometimes MSOG is included, sometimes it's +30-50. Exceptional providers can be 400-500/ hr. Services are full GFE, always BBBJ, usually things like CIM, RIM, DATY are available, and even BBFS / CIP if you're into that.
Interior of the apartments in LA have always been pretty nice, but not too far off from KGFE.
[QUOTE=BeavertronDoug;7215806]Look at the pic that's up there now above the "stay tuned" message. Weird as fuck. Each arm looks to be about 5 feet long. Bizarre gigantic eyeballs that appear to be 3 inches in diameter. Misshapen nippleless tits. And the freakish robot hand.
If I actually saw a human in real life that looked like her, I would literally gasp in horror (although an actual robot hand could be interesting in a kinky sort of way). I know that most kgirl agencies do this to some degree, but I think the idea is usually to touch up actual photos of the girl, not just generate a completely fake image of an imaginary human-like object. KGFE is a joke.
The end result of using these stupid ass images is that I won't take a chance on any of their providers, because I have no idea what they're actually going to look like. So I'll wait for reviews to roll in, but by the time that happens, the girl is often already on her way out of town..[/QUOTE]There's an agency in Chicago that takes new photos of the girls they offer to mitigate this exact issue. The girls are the ones lying but KGFE should take more liability because in the end it hurts the agency far more.
I recently got blacklisted from them. Someone here pointed out that two of the girls they had on their website were the same girls, so I asked the booker about it. He promptly told me he was going to block my number and blacklist me from the agency. LOL, whatever. I only met with two girls, one was Peach from over a year ago who while very hot and tight was super lame in bed. The other girl was Maya who was super hot and young, the service was good but idk if it was worth price of admission. Guess I will be sticking to AMP's from now on.
[QUOTE=WarpFactor69;7216191]What have you been paying at the LA agencies? How long of a session and please tell us about the services you received and what the interior of the apartments were like.[/QUOTE]320+40 for the second shot. All bare, spotlessly clean nice apartments in good neighborhoods. Compared to the gps spotty shitty service in the PNW save up and fly down to OC for a couple days.
This might be a bit off topic, but lots of these agency girls are stationed in LA and New York so due to recent ICE Raids they are less willing to travel via flight.
Rumors has spread that ICE are catching people at airports and for those who isn't here legally they don't want to risk it. Rotation might be stale and or not at all
[QUOTE=WarpFactor69;7216191]What have you been paying at the LA agencies? How long of a session and please tell us about the services you received and what the interior of the apartments were like.[/QUOTE]
My most recent one was in Monterey park where 90% of Chinese agencies are located. Randomly picked one out of 15 or 20 agencies selection. The girl index is 10 pages and you had to book few hours in advance. Place is crappy to say the least but the keeper guy speak somewhat of decent English so communication isn't a problem. Its a little awkward sitting in the room with other monger waiting for our girls to arrived (LOL). Like some have said with Korean agencies, its same pool of girl and if you booked one they will transport girl to the agencies that you want to go to.
Base rate of $300 for 1 hour and the keeper promise me the girl is young. She looks like she's still in school OMG! Basic house routine, wash you and give BBBJ during showers. Lots of tongue skill in bed. Will definitely booked the same girl and added her Wechat for added fun ^_^. Definitely not going to the same agencies for sure, the apartment/house is dirtiest place I've seen
New girl named Nora today. Anyone see her yet, or know if she's from another agency?
So I have found myself in LA for 2 days. Decided to check out the K-scene here. Hands down unequivocally beats the scene in Portland. $1 k lighter. 3 Girls, All beautiful and excellent service. Not one condom to be seen. Topangels. Ch, screening was a breeze, booker is prompt and responds immediately.
[QUOTE=DimSumFun;7216532]I recently got blacklisted from them. Someone here pointed out that two of the girls they had on their website were the same girls, so I asked the booker about it. He promptly told me he was going to block my number and blacklist me from the agency. LOL, whatever. I only met with two girls, one was Peach from over a year ago who while very hot and tight was super lame in bed. The other girl was Maya who was super hot and young, the service was good but idk if it was worth price of admission. Guess I will be sticking to AMP's from now on.[/QUOTE]I didn't see the original post but I'm so glad you brought this up. I'm a victim of being duped. Think they had like Venus advertised but I ended up with a completely different girl. Haven't used KGFE since. Like others have said, definitely get a better bang for your buck out in LA.
[QUOTE=Ritzy;7217525]New girl named Nora today. Anyone see her yet, or know if she's from another agency?[/QUOTE]I took the plunge. I would say she's early 30's, and attractive. Her pics have P.S. For sure, but not a crazy amount like some do. Well done mm's. Not a total hard body like Maya, but a good body. She was up in Sea around the new year, if you search the kangels forum in the Seattle section there is good info.
At the risk of being called a shill, her service was first rate. Head game was really good, although not as good of dt as some. The rest was the typical service you expect, but with a very high level of energy. If you check out TER, my experience aligns with those reviews.
I recently visited BC. I only had time for one meeting but it was worth it. $260 CAD works out to around $170 USD (30 hh).
Did my research through K604, and met Jo Jo. Did not book via agency, but directly. She's independent. Young-ish, early to mid thirties, spinner. But with massive natural k or J tits. She could've just let me fondle them for 30 min straight and it would've been worth it. Service-wise nothing to write home about, tbh. Anyway, BC is much closer than LA so maybe give it a try.
[QUOTE=Burner77;7221481]I recently visited BC. I only had time for one meeting but it was worth it. $260 CAD works out to around $170 USD (30 hh).
Did my research through K604, and met Jo Jo. Did not book via agency, but directly. She's independent. Young-ish, early to mid thirties, spinner. But with massive natural k or J tits. She could've just let me fondle them for 30 min straight and it would've been worth it. Service-wise nothing to write home about, tbh. Anyway, BC is much closer than LA so maybe give it a try.[/QUOTE]I went to Canada last summer! It was a road trip and landed in Richmond BC. It was a high end condo and operated by girls themselves. Girl is high tier model looking and it was $700 CAD. It was referred by a Seattle agencies so I figure the quality isn't too bad.
Nothing fancy to write about, left my footprint there and took a selfie with the girl and added to my collection and one *more* place checked on my world conquest ^_^
[QUOTE=Burner77;7221481]I recently visited BC. I only had time for one meeting but it was worth it. $260 CAD works out to around $170 USD (30 hh).
Did my research through K604, and met Jo Jo. Did not book via agency, but directly. She's independent. Young-ish, early to mid thirties, spinner. But with massive natural k or J tits. She could've just let me fondle them for 30 min straight and it would've been worth it. Service-wise nothing to write home about, tbh. Anyway, BC is much closer than LA so maybe give it a try.[/QUOTE]Ill be there in a few weeks visiting family in downtown vancouver. Too bad I won't have time to slip away for a visit. K604 looks like a metro ride out to burnaby and a short walk.
[QUOTE=Ebech;7218045]So I have found myself in LA for 2 days. Decided to check out the K-scene here. Hands down unequivocally beats the scene in Portland. $1 k lighter. 3 Girls, All beautiful and excellent service. Not one condom to be seen. Topangels. Ch, screening was a breeze, booker is prompt and responds immediately.[/QUOTE]That was my experience also. Thanks for your contribution, I hope other gentlemen will take the California Kgirl Challenge and post about their experiences.
Perusing the K Agencies thread on the Vegas board and it seems like the experiece may be similar to those describe in Southern California. I'm going to be there next month; if I partake, I'll report back. If anyone else has reason to be in Vegas, take a look at that board; Ada seems like a wild ride.
How does one find a Chinese lineup agency in LA? Kgirls are relatively easy but I was not able to identify one Chinese one that didn't look too sketchy, let alone 15 of them. Any pointers, links perhaps?
[QUOTE=SageSix;7216960]My most recent one was in Monterey park where 90% of Chinese agencies are located. Randomly picked one out of 15 or 20 agencies selection. The girl index is 10 pages and
you had to book few hours in advance. Place is crappy to say the least but the keeper guy speak somewhat of decent English so communication isn't a problem. Its a little awkward sitting in the room with other monger waiting for our girls to arrived (LOL). Like some have said with Korean agencies, its same pool of girl and if you booked one they will transport girl to the agencies that you want to go to.
Base rate of $300 for 1 hour and the keeper promise me the girl is young. She looks like she's still in school OMG! Basic house routine, wash you and give BBBJ during showers. Lots of tongue skill in bed. Will definitely booked the same girl and added her Wechat for added fun ^_^. Definitely not going to the same agencies for sure, the apartment/house is dirtiest place I've seen[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=WarpFactor69;7222642]That was my experience also. Thanks for your contribution, I hope other gentlemen will take the California Kgirl Challenge and post about their experiences.[/QUOTE]All these reports are amazing and definitely tempting but serious question, if you all are banging all these chicks bare back, how or what steps are you all taking to avoid, prevent or mitigate diseases?
Sorry for the boner killer question. I partake in BBBJ at the AMPs and even then I'm thinking about it. Thanks for any helpful info. I think if we share this info, it'll be beneficial to us all.
[QUOTE=Pdx503;7223031]All these reports are amazing and definitely tempting but serious question, if you all are banging all these chicks bare back, how or what steps are you all taking to avoid, prevent or mitigate diseases?
Sorry for the boner killer question. I partake in BBBJ at the AMPs and even then I'm thinking about it. Thanks for any helpful info. I think if we share this info, it'll be beneficial to us all.[/QUOTE]Depends on what kind of diseases and infections you are referring to I suppose?
Just by wearing condom we know it is less effective against STIs that are transmitted through skin-to-skin contact, such as genital herpes and human papillomavirus (HPV).
If you are talking about HIV specifically, you can consult your Infectious Disease Doc regarding PrEP and PEP medication.
Just like people knows smoking, drinking and drugs are bad to their health but are doing it regardless. Life is all about taking risks
FYI: I don't do BBBFS, only BBBJ ^_^.
[QUOTE=BobA0;7222963]How does one find a Chinese lineup agency in LA? Kgirls are relatively easy but I was not able to identify one Chinese one that didn't look too sketchy, let alone 15 of them. Any pointers, links perhaps?[/QUOTE]This is the one I went 3 months ago in CA.
[URL]http://redcherrys.com/[/URL]
Website is in Chinese but use any website translation services and you can navigate in ease.
Be warned the place is old but you are there for the girls though.
I'm heading back to CA to try more Chinese agencies, will share more afterwards
[QUOTE=SageSix;7223606]This is the one I went 3 months ago in CA.
[URL]http://redcherrys.com/[/URL]
Website is in Chinese but use any website translation services and you can navigate in ease.
Be warned the place is old but you are there for the girls though.
I'm heading back to CA to try more Chinese agencies, will share more afterwards[/QUOTE]Thank you. Appreciate it.
What about screening, do they take TER, TNA, P411 or it's something completely different?
[QUOTE=SageSix;7223606]This is the one I went 3 months ago in CA.
[URL]http://redcherrys.com/[/URL]
Website is in Chinese but use any website translation services and you can navigate in ease.
Be warned the place is old but you are there for the girls though.
I'm heading back to CA to try more Chinese agencies, will share more afterwards[/QUOTE]Please also try some k-girl agencies in California. Great value for the money compared to here. And they won't have fucking sheets over the windows instead of actual curtains.
[QUOTE=Pdx503;7223031]All these reports are amazing and definitely tempting but serious question, if you all are banging all these chicks bare back, how or what steps are you all taking to avoid, prevent or mitigate diseases?
Sorry for the boner killer question. I partake in BBBJ at the AMPs and even then I'm thinking about it. Thanks for any helpful info. I think if we share this info, it'll be beneficial to us all.[/QUOTE]Condoms only really designed to protect against semen getting into vagina. They also do a good job of preventing vaginal (and anal) discharge of any kind getting into penis.
Good news, that's the only viable route for any "serious" STI. (Added) risks of oral transmission are miniscule, especially if you're kissing, using spit as lube, touching both genitals with the same hand without washing in between (e. G, jerking and fingering with the same hand), etc. To put it in perspective while one BBBJ is slightly riskier than one CBJ, two CBJs are way more riskier than one BBBJ.
BBFS is playing with fire though.
P.S. Chances of getting HSV and HPV are about the same with and without condoms. The only meaningful protection is abstinence. Also, there are vaccines for some HPV strains, won't hurt.
[QUOTE=WarpFactor69;7223724]Please also try some k-girl agencies in California. Great value for the money compared to here. And they won't have fucking sheets over the windows instead of actual curtains.[/QUOTE]Reading the LA board they are not that great. Definitely better than KGFE but still need to be paying attention to reviews, only a handful of great providers and other quirks we have here but on a larger scale.
That said, all of these got me curious. Can you recommend an agency with painless screening. TER or TNA for instance, P411 in the worst case? I don't suppose any of them take KGFE as a reference?
[QUOTE=BobA0;7223660]Thank you. Appreciate it.
What about screening, do they take TER, TNA, P411 or it's something completely different?[/QUOTE]I was being referred by other agencies so I didn't get any screening.
As far as I know, they don't do any screenings. They might just give you an approximate address and then someone will go meet you and confirm you are not cop and walked you to the house.
[QUOTE=BobA0;7223748]Reading the LA board they are not that great. Definitely better than KGFE but still need to be paying attention to reviews, only a handful of great providers and other quirks we have here but on a larger scale.
That said, all of these got me curious. Can you recommend an agency with painless screening. TER or TNA for instance, P411 in the worst case? I don't suppose any of them take KGFE as a reference?[/QUOTE]I don't have specific agencies to recommend. Please refer to my posts on Feb 01,02, and 05 in this section.
[QUOTE=WarpFactor69;7223724]Please also try some k-girl agencies in California. Great value for the money compared to here. And they won't have fucking sheets over the windows instead of actual curtains.[/QUOTE]Haha! I hate screening hopefully there are some k-girl agencies that doesn't require screening.
[QUOTE=SageSix;7224016]Haha! I hate screening hopefully there are some k-girl agencies that doesn't require screening.[/QUOTE]I don't think you will have much success if you don't screen. You can do that now before you go to California.
[QUOTE=SageSix;7224016]Haha! I hate screening hopefully there are some k-girl agencies that doesn't require screening.[/QUOTE]Most are going to ask for identifying information, like a pic of your license, a copy of your paystub, a selfie of your face with you holding a piece of paper with today's date on it. It's fairly intrusive, but they're generally ok with you blacking out your address and other sensitive info. If you're really worried about it, you can Photoshop your license to change your name, or put your picture on someone else's license. I've done that before. One agency asked for a paystub, so I got one of my paystubs on my company's HR website, edited the HTML to completely change the company name and my name, and then took a photo of the screen and sent it to them.
If you're savvy enough, none of the info you send them needs to be real. Although the risk of sending them real info is pretty low. They're only going to use it if you do something fucked up to one of the girls. They just want proof you're not a cop. Biggest risk is if they get busted and still have your info stored. But that info alone is not evidence that you did anything illegal, so cops can't do anything with it against you.
[QUOTE=BeavertronDoug;7225754]Most are going to ask for identifying information, like a pic of your license, a copy of your paystub, a selfie of your face with you holding a piece of paper with today's date on it. It's fairly intrusive, but they're generally ok with you blacking out your address and other sensitive info. If you're really worried about it, you can Photoshop your license to change your name, or put your picture on someone else's license. I've done that before. One agency asked for a paystub, so I got one of my paystubs on my company's HR website, edited the HTML to completely change the company name and my name, and then took a photo of the screen and sent it to them.
If you're savvy enough, none of the info you send them needs to be real. Although the risk of sending them real info is pretty low. They're only going to use it if you do something fucked up to one of the girls. They just want proof you're not a cop. Biggest risk is if they get busted and still have your info stored. But that info alone is not evidence that you did anything illegal, so cops can't do anything with it against you.[/QUOTE]Not saying you are wrong, but the places I contacted were okay with me providing references from a national board like TER, Humanaplex, P411, TNA, etc. I did not have to supply a driver's license or pay stub. And, once you have been approved at one agency and visited at least one of their girls, you can use that to pass screening at other agencies.
I've had several requests for how I found agencies so I'll repeat the information. Go on TER (you only need basic level to do a search), do a search using the city, Asian as the ethnicity, and Agency (as opposed to independent). Using those three search criteria, you will come up with a list of phone numbers and website links to the agencies. Then I went to their websites to see photos of the girls, rates, and how to contact to get screened. There are agencies in most larger California cities as well as Orange county.
Anyone have a recent experience at KGFE?
[QUOTE=BeavertronDoug;7225754]Most are going to ask for identifying information, like a pic of your license, a copy of your paystub, a selfie of your face with you holding a piece of paper with today's date on it. It's fairly intrusive, but they're generally ok with you blacking out your address and other sensitive info. If you're really worried about it, you can Photoshop your license to change your name, or put your picture on someone else's license. I've done that before. One agency asked for a paystub, so I got one of my paystubs on my company's HR website, edited the HTML to completely change the company name and my name, and then took a photo of the screen and sent it to them.
If you're savvy enough, none of the info you send them needs to be real. Although the risk of sending them real info is pretty low. They're only going to use it if you do something fucked up to one of the girls. They just want proof you're not a cop. Biggest risk is if they get busted and still have your info stored. But that info alone is not evidence that you did anything illegal, so cops can't do anything with it against you.[/QUOTE]I'm computer savvy and in cryptocurrencies space and bit of dark web to boost (acquiring authentic fake ID). FBI busted couple big ones and they list all the clients (publicly) that they found on operator's phone. LOL.
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-12904363/Sex-ring-Boston-Virgiinia-honeypot-China-South-Korea-ensnare-officials.html
[QUOTE=WarpFactor69;7224029]I don't think you will have much success if you don't screen. You can do that now before you go to California.[/QUOTE]True, time to do homework.
New girl from east coast: [URL=https://www.theeroticreview.com/reviews/olivia-2136483178-400059]Olivia @ TER[/URL].
Half of the reviews think it's her pics why another half says it's completely different girl. Wonder why KGFE didn't include her TER I'd.