Viagra and Valtrex, both blue, coincidence?
Idle minds will wander!
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Viagra and Valtrex, both blue, coincidence?
Idle minds will wander!
Guy
Providers and Hobbyists, I have a scenario I would like to run past you and tell me what you think. The reason for this scenario of mine is that I am tired of not getting the time and services I request from the providers after the initial agreement. Please keep in mind I mean no harm by this, just planting a seed at the beginning of the session.
I walk into the room, we exchange pleasantries, and as I am getting more comfortable I say, "Oh shit, I forgot to leave my pistol in the car. I'll just stick it in my boot".
That is all I say unless she presses the issue. The pistol does not have to be loaded so to avoid the possibility of her having me in an uncompromising position at my most vulnerable moments. My question is, do you think the provider would be intimidated enough not to try any shady business knowing she could face a potential problem if she does? I do realize one possibility is that she would ask me to go back to my car to ditch the piece and come back, but hopefully by than we will both be naked and she would see I am a nice guy and only there for a good time and just say Fuck it. Again if she presses the issue, I would than have to decide if she is worth the walk back to my car. At least I will get a peak of her goods and a sense of her attitude before anything is exchanged. Many a time the girl in person is not the one in the photo but I proceed anyway, at least I could reconsider based on the first impression she gave me and have the option of leaving without incurring the loss. I usually have a back-up ready to go due to being stood up after driving out to the location.
My weakness is the variety of it all, and with that you run one of the many risks including upselling and clockwatching. I am just trying to have an edge on getting what I request so I can at least enjoy the reason for taking all the risks. Please let me know what you think.
[QUOTE=Torlando]Providers and Hobbyists, I have a scenario I would like to run past you and tell me what you think. The reason for this scenario of mine is that I am tired of not getting the time and services I request from the providers after the initial agreement. Please keep in mind I mean no harm by this, just planting a seed at the beginning of the session.
I walk into the room, we exchange pleasantries, and as I am getting more comfortable I say, "Oh shit, I forgot to leave my pistol in the car. I'll just stick it in my boot".
That is all I say unless she presses the issue. The pistol does not have to be loaded so to avoid the possibility of her having me in an uncompromising position at my most vulnerable moments. My question is, do you think the provider would be intimidated enough not to try any shady business knowing she could face a potential problem if she does? I do realize one possibility is that she would ask me to go back to my car to ditch the piece and come back, but hopefully by than we will both be naked and she would see I am a nice guy and only there for a good time and just say Fuck it. Again if she presses the issue, I would than have to decide if she is worth the walk back to my car. At least I will get a peak of her goods and a sense of her attitude before anything is exchanged. Many a time the girl in person is not the one in the photo but I proceed anyway, at least I could reconsider based on the first impression she gave me and have the option of leaving without incurring the loss. I usually have a back-up ready to go due to being stood up after driving out to the location.
My weakness is the variety of it all, and with that you run one of the many risks including upselling and clockwatching. I am just trying to have an edge on getting what I request so I can at least enjoy the reason for taking all the risks. Please let me know what you think.[/QUOTE]Torlando,
I cannot describe the many, many ways in which this is a horrible idea. It could lead to you getting arrested, beat up, or God forbid, killed. We all hate upselling and clockwatching, but this is not the answer. Just make a note, tell others via reviews, and don't visit her again.
Again, just please don't do this.
- Wlord
[QUOTE=Torlando]Providers and Hobbyists, I have a scenario I would like to run past you and tell me what you think. The reason for this scenario of mine is that I am tired of not getting the time and services I request from the providers after the initial agreement. Please keep in mind I mean no harm by this, just planting a seed at the beginning of the session.
I walk into the room, we exchange pleasantries, and as I am getting more comfortable I say, "Oh shit, I forgot to leave my pistol in the car. I'll just stick it in my boot".
That is all I say unless she presses the issue. The pistol does not have to be loaded so to avoid the possibility of her having me in an uncompromising position at my most vulnerable moments. My question is, do you think the provider would be intimidated enough not to try any shady business knowing she could face a potential problem if she does? I do realize one possibility is that she would ask me to go back to my car to ditch the piece and come back, but hopefully by than we will both be naked and she would see I am a nice guy and only there for a good time and just say Fuck it. Again if she presses the issue, I would than have to decide if she is worth the walk back to my car. At least I will get a peak of her goods and a sense of her attitude before anything is exchanged. Many a time the girl in person is not the one in the photo but I proceed anyway, at least I could reconsider based on the first impression she gave me and have the option of leaving without incurring the loss. I usually have a back-up ready to go due to being stood up after driving out to the location.
My weakness is the variety of it all, and with that you run one of the many risks including upselling and clockwatching. I am just trying to have an edge on getting what I request so I can at least enjoy the reason for taking all the risks. Please let me know what you think.[/QUOTE]If you tell the girl you have a pistol, loaded or not. You are opening the door for a number of issues. She may grab the gun and try to use it, steal it, or hand it off to someone else if she gets the chance. I would have to say that this is not a smart move. There is a lot of reason this could go wrong. Plus, in flordia by you having a gun. She has a get out of free jail card if she wanted to attack or kill you. She can claim that you tried to attack, rob, or rape her. You have the wepon so the law works againt you and for her.
[QUOTE=Torlando]Providers and Hobbyists, I have a scenario I would like to run past you and tell me what you think. The reason for this scenario of mine is that I am tired of not getting the time and services I request from the providers after the initial agreement. Please keep in mind I mean no harm by this, just planting a seed at the beginning of the session.
I walk into the room, we exchange pleasantries, and as I am getting more comfortable I say, "Oh shit, I forgot to leave my pistol in the car. I'll just stick it in my boot".
That is all I say unless she presses the issue. The pistol does not have to be loaded so to avoid the possibility of her having me in an uncompromising position at my most vulnerable moments. My question is, do you think the provider would be intimidated enough not to try any shady business knowing she could face a potential problem if she does? I do realize one possibility is that she would ask me to go back to my car to ditch the piece and come back, but hopefully by than we will both be naked and she would see I am a nice guy and only there for a good time and just say Fuck it. Again if she presses the issue, I would than have to decide if she is worth the walk back to my car. At least I will get a peak of her goods and a sense of her attitude before anything is exchanged. Many a time the girl in person is not the one in the photo but I proceed anyway, at least I could reconsider based on the first impression she gave me and have the option of leaving without incurring the loss. I usually have a back-up ready to go due to being stood up after driving out to the location.
My weakness is the variety of it all, and with that you run one of the many risks including upselling and clockwatching. I am just trying to have an edge on getting what I request so I can at least enjoy the reason for taking all the risks. Please let me know what you think.[/QUOTE]
I think your gun plan would scare the girl so much that she wouldn't give you the type of service you are looking for. Unless you are into master/slave scene.
If you are using CL and Eros and getting burned than I suggest you check girls for reviews. Also look for a more professional class of girl.
I don't know what you girls you are meeting up with, but you may be getting attitude and poor performance by meeting with girls who post 250 an hr and you make a deal with them for less. They may feel like you should get quick service for the price you are paying.
I always look for reviews and haven't had any problems with my dreams because I do research before hand.
It sounds like you like variety like I do. Maybe you may have to not take on so many newly posted ladies and go with the ones who have long historys of reviews. You still get variety.
I understand their are many who come and go that are so tempting you have to jump on them.
That's a 50/50 shot if they don't have reviews. You may just have an unlucky streak happening because most the fresh fish I have sampled have treated me well. I treat them how I want to be treated from start to finish and I have had most treat me back the same way.
Good Luck,
BC
I think you're playing with fire there....I would tend to think this would freak out the provider and really see no upside to it. If it's a legit provider she's probably going to be very distracted for your session, and if it's a rip off situation your bringing a gun to the party may make it much worse.
But re-reading your question it looks like your primary complaint is not a rip off but receiving the full time or promised services....so what are you going to do if she trys to end early? Pull out the gun? That's insane!
But I also tend to avoid any "iffy" situations and stick to well known or well reviewed providers - so I never enter a place I don't know folks have come out of with a good experience. I think you're inviting a lot of trouble and validating LEO's assertion that prostitution increases crime...just my 2 cents.
No, I would never draw the weapon unless I felt my life was threatened and I intended on using it and that goes for anywhere at anytime. Since I carry and have in most of my sessions, all I wanted to do was make it known I carry, not even show it (that alone is a felony). You see, by getting ripped off by the ladies, I associate it to being robbed by a common thug. I was thinking that the mere fact she knows I have it may dissuade her from trying to cut the session short, or the infamous "I don't get on top" or "no, I don't do doggy style" and leave me disappointed and out my hard earned. I think having a detailed conversation ahead of time of what positions are acceptable and which aren't is ridiculous. I also think going into the session with a kitchen timer is also quite absurd. I never create an unpleasant environment for the ladies, if they are clockwatchers or upsellers, it's all them. Over the past 6 months I have met on average 6 new friends monthly. Being I like variety and the new kid on the block, I am susceptible to being ripped off (amongst other things). But the variety is the reason I play the game.
Off the top of my head three girls have left the worst impressions on me and I left the session wishing I did more. Remy, Madi, and Ivette. Of the three I dreamt only Madi, finished the job but only after begging her to, making it for an unpleasant time nonetheless. There were more I just forget their names. There was another I actually did something about it. She is an Incall in the Lake Mary area, she took my $$ and when I attempted physical contact she said "I don't do that for $$, only a massage". Now, here I am naked and basically pleading for it. She has my donation, and refusing service. I asked for it back, being the session was only 5 minutes into it. She refused so I said, to myself it was time to get out of there. On the way out, I snatched her cell phone off the dresser and told her for $$ I would give it back. I had one foot out the door and she ran over to me and gave me back my donation. Of course she got her phone back. Did I want her phone? No, but I figured she might and I was correct. I left there more satisfied than if the session would have went forward after me begging for it. In any case, I want what I pay for and expect no less. I never would draw the weapon unless I felt my life was threatened. I carry it mostly everywhere I go and I am disciplined. The difference in this case, she would know I have it on me and may save the shenanigans for the next patron.
As for the type of girls I see, that probably is part of the problem but that should not be. I seek out the new blood at $ for half or $. 5 for the whole. I don’t bargain or look to cut deals. I browse for the girls that are in my spending budget. If I changed my technique and seen only two girls a month but there were EROS providers at $$$. 5 an hour are you saying that wouldn’t happen? If it did, and the stakes where that much higher, and I was on the verge of losing that much loot, than I might just snap. I could see me leaving the room with her luggage under my arm! So, I play at the five dollar table instead of the high stakes tables. But does that mean I should be taken advantage of? I don’t think so, the rules of the game shouldn’t change just because the price does.
So, in retrospect, I wouldn’t draw the weapon. I would merely let her know I have it on me. My thought process is, by doing so may cut down the possibility of being taken advantage of. My question to all of you, do you think my thought process is correct or incorrect?
[QUOTE=TravelingVoye] But re-reading your question it looks like your primary complaint is not a rip off but receiving the full time or promised services....so what are you going to do if she trys to end early? Pull out the gun? That's insane![/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Torlando]Providers and Hobbyists, I have a scenario I would like to run past you and tell me what you think. The reason for this scenario of mine is that I am tired of not getting the time and services I request from the providers after the initial agreement. Please keep in mind I mean no harm by this, just planting a seed at the beginning of the session.
I walk into the room, we exchange pleasantries, and as I am getting more comfortable I say, "Oh shit, I forgot to leave my pistol in the car. I'll just stick it in my boot".
That is all I say unless she presses the issue. The pistol does not have to be loaded so to avoid the possibility of her having me in an uncompromising position at my most vulnerable moments. My question is, do you think the provider would be intimidated enough not to try any shady business knowing she could face a potential problem if she does? I do realize one possibility is that she would ask me to go back to my car to ditch the piece and come back, but hopefully by than we will both be naked and she would see I am a nice guy and only there for a good time and just say Fuck it. Again if she presses the issue, I would than have to decide if she is worth the walk back to my car. At least I will get a peak of her goods and a sense of her attitude before anything is exchanged. Many a time the girl in person is not the one in the photo but I proceed anyway, at least I could reconsider based on the first impression she gave me and have the option of leaving without incurring the loss. I usually have a back-up ready to go due to being stood up after driving out to the location.
My weakness is the variety of it all, and with that you run one of the many risks including upselling and clockwatching. I am just trying to have an edge on getting what I request so I can at least enjoy the reason for taking all the risks. Please let me know what you think.[/QUOTE]I think you are asking for a lot of trouble. There will be an astute provider that will call the police as soon as you are gone and claim you raped her at gunpoint. She will have all the evidence. In any case, I imagine your choice of providers will diminish real fast. Word does get around. I've heard of guys doing some stupid things, but your idea is bone-headed.
I would be very scared and have a hard time relaxing. I have had men that visit that have advised me before they arrived that they professionally carry and asked if I had a problem with it. I am more comfortable with it being in the car. How would you feel if the tables were flipped? You would freak out. Tell them you are a bodyguard or something to that effect and they will know that you do not play games.
[QUOTE=Torlando]Providers and Hobbyists, I have a scenario I would like to run past you and tell me what you think. The reason for this scenario of mine is that I am tired of not getting the time and services I request from the providers after the initial agreement. Please keep in mind I mean no harm by this, just planting a seed at the beginning of the session.
I walk into the room, we exchange pleasantries, and as I am getting more comfortable I say, "Oh shit, I forgot to leave my pistol in the car. I'll just stick it in my boot".
That is all I say unless she presses the issue. The pistol does not have to be loaded so to avoid the possibility of her having me in an uncompromising position at my most vulnerable moments. My question is, do you think the provider would be intimidated enough not to try any shady business knowing she could face a potential problem if she does? I do realize one possibility is that she would ask me to go back to my car to ditch the piece and come back, but hopefully by than we will both be naked and she would see I am a nice guy and only there for a good time and just say Fuck it. Again if she presses the issue, I would than have to decide if she is worth the walk back to my car. At least I will get a peak of her goods and a sense of her attitude before anything is exchanged. Many a time the girl in person is not the one in the photo but I proceed anyway, at least I could reconsider based on the first impression she gave me and have the option of leaving without incurring the loss. I usually have a back-up ready to go due to being stood up after driving out to the location.
My weakness is the variety of it all, and with that you run one of the many risks including upselling and clockwatching. I am just trying to have an edge on getting what I request so I can at least enjoy the reason for taking all the risks. Please let me know what you think.[/QUOTE]Here is another what if, what if the new lady you are seeing turns out to be a cop, instead of being busted for a minor solicitation charge, you add a concealed weapon charge (if no permit exists) which makes it a felony charge.
Torlando,
Without repeating everything everyone else has said, Wlord (imho) has given you the best advice.
Let's be careful out there!
[QUOTE=Torlando] I was thinking that the mere fact she knows I have it may dissuade her from trying to cut the session short, or the infamous "I don't get on top" or "no, I don't do doggy style" and leave me disappointed and out my hard earned. I think having a detailed conversation ahead of time of what positions are acceptable and which aren't is ridiculous. [/QUOTE]
Who says there's no entertainment during the writer's strike? That's got to be the funniest and dumbest fucking thing I've seen in a while. Let me see if I understand you correctly. You think it's ridiculous to have a conversation specifying your desires before doing business, but you don't think it's ridiculous to use a gun to intimidate her because you're not man enough to do it any other way?
Did I get that right?
So what are you going to do if she says "I don't do doggy style" after you've allowed her to know that you're carrying? Are you going to point the gun in her face and yell "On your knees, *****!", or are you going to simply whimper the same way you would if you didn't have a gun with you?
Owning a gun doesn't make you a man. Acting like one would be a step in the right direction. You want her to do something and she wants money. Fine. Escalate the amount you're willing to pay in order to get what you want.
Ok, ok change of subject I have had enough. It was just a hypothetical scenario and I was only asking for opinions.
Sponge Worthy, was it necessary to question my manhood when I was only posing a question of my own?
[QUOTE=Sponge Worthy] You think it's ridiculous to have a conversation specifying your desires before doing business, but you don't think it's ridiculous to use a gun to intimidate her because you're not man enough to do it any other way?
Owning a gun doesn't make you a man. Acting like one would be a step in the right direction. You want her to do something and she wants money. Fine. Escalate the amount you're willing to pay in order to get what you want.[/QUOTE]
I know what you're thinking. "Did he fire six shots or only five?" Well, to tell you the truth, in all this excitement I kind of lost track myself. But being as this is a .44 Magnum, the most powerful handgun in the world, and would blow your head clean off, you've got to ask yourself a question: Do I do Doggy? Well, do ya, B***?
Yep, seems that would work every time.?????????????????????????
[QUOTE=Torlando]Providers and Hobbyists, I have a scenario I would like to run past you and tell me what you think. The reason for this scenario of mine is that I am tired of not getting the time and services I request from the providers after the initial agreement. Please keep in mind I mean no harm by this, just planting a seed at the beginning of the session.
I walk into the room, we exchange pleasantries, and as I am getting more comfortable I say, "Oh shit, I forgot to leave my pistol in the car. I'll just stick it in my boot".
That is all I say unless she presses the issue. The pistol does not have to be loaded so to avoid the possibility of her having me in an uncompromising position at my most vulnerable moments. My question is, do you think the provider would be intimidated enough not to try any shady business knowing she could face a potential problem if she does? I do realize one possibility is that she would ask me to go back to my car to ditch the piece and come back, but hopefully by than we will both be naked and she would see I am a nice guy and only there for a good time and just say Fuck it. Again if she presses the issue, I would than have to decide if she is worth the walk back to my car. At least I will get a peak of her goods and a sense of her attitude before anything is exchanged. Many a time the girl in person is not the one in the photo but I proceed anyway, at least I could reconsider based on the first impression she gave me and have the option of leaving without incurring the loss. I usually have a back-up ready to go due to being stood up after driving out to the location.
My weakness is the variety of it all, and with that you run one of the many risks including upselling and clockwatching. I am just trying to have an edge on getting what I request so I can at least enjoy the reason for taking all the risks. Please let me know what you think.[/QUOTE]
[size=+1][color=green]Bad idea anyway you look at it.[/color][/size]
Forget the gun and see only the ladies that have been reviewed well on here.
And invite the very best Ladies to advertise here.
[QUOTE=Torlando]Ok, ok change of subject I have had enough. It was just a hypothetical scenario and I was only asking for opinions.
Sponge Worthy, was it necessary to question my manhood when I was only posing a question of my own?[/QUOTE]
Actually it will be quite a demonstration of manhood...lets see, the charges would be Aggravated Assault (784.021), Possession of Weapons and Firearms (790.161), Prostitution (796.07) and possibly Weapons and Firearms while intoxicated (790.151). With criminal defence at $2500 for each charge, some attorney is going to have a 10K vacation!! Thats a really expensive way to prove manhood!!!!!
[QUOTE=Big Bob III]Actually it will be quite a demonstration of manhood...lets see, the charges would be Aggravated Assault (784.021), Possession of Weapons and Firearms (790.161), Prostitution (796.07) and possibly Weapons and Firearms while intoxicated (790.151). With criminal defence at $2500 for each charge, some attorney is going to have a 10K vacation!! Thats a really expensive way to prove manhood!!!!![/QUOTE]1 more vioation: Posession of a firearm in a place of nuisance (790.25): [url]http://www.flsenate.gov/Statutes/index.cfm?
App_mode=Display_Statute&URL=Ch0790/ch0790.htm[/url]
Some girls don't do doggy because they are afraid on being hit over the head strangled from behind or worse !IF you came to see me and talked about a gun the session would immediately be over and I would definatley call security here at my apartment complex to escort you out !I am in a gated community for this reason .... my life is worth more than 200 dollars to me .I definately would not turn my back on you and now big boy here comes the real question what if she's packing or what if she has a pimp that is? You really are endangering yourself and your hobby.
While your mom taught you that all men are pigs and rightfully so. Surely one of would not strangle you or hit you over the head. After all we are a better class of PIGS.
If he is naked and in my bed I won't be worried about his metal gun. I would be worried about his meat gun. He could just as easily kill me with his bare hands.
Hanna
[QUOTE=Jethrow1]While your mom taught you that all men are pigs and rightfully so. Surely one of would not strangle you or hit you over the head. After all we are a better class of PIGS.[/QUOTE]
At least most of us are!!
[QUOTE=Big Bob III]Actually it will be quite a demonstration of manhood...lets see, the charges would be Aggravated Assault (784.021), Possession of Weapons and Firearms (790.161), Prostitution (796.07) and possibly Weapons and Firearms while intoxicated (790.151). With criminal defence at $2500 for each charge, some attorney is going to have a 10K vacation!! Thats a really expensive way to prove manhood!!!!![/QUOTE]
If the attorney went on vacation and took a provider with him, would he be expected to pay her in addition to taking her on vacation ?
[QUOTE=LapDogg]If the attorney went on vacation and took a provider with him, would he be expected to pay her in addition to taking her on vacation ?[/QUOTE]
Would she have to pay HIM for talking about the case, and hence, legal fees?
Lets say I have an opportunity coming up - a whole evening and night free to myself for mongering. The budget is say around $300. The objective is to spend the most TIME possible, near the HOTTEST female possible with the best ATTITUDE possible with the least RISK possible. Here are some of my options....what would you guys recommend?
1) Drive west to Tampa for the clubs there
2) Drive east to Cocoa beach clubs
3) Set up an extended session with someone true and tested (Taylor Star, Altoona Tuna, Vika etc)
4) Stay home dial for eros or CL outcall services (multiple or extended)
5) Visit multiple CL incall services
6) Monger on SOBT/Lee roads
7) Is there an option I overlooked ?
[QUOTE=Big Bob III]Lets say I have an opportunity coming up - a whole evening and night free to myself for mongering. The budget is say around $300. The objective is to spend the most TIME possible, near the HOTTEST female possible with the best ATTITUDE possible with the least RISK possible. Here are some of my options....what would you guys recommend?
1) Drive west to Tampa for the clubs there
2) Drive east to Cocoa beach clubs
3) Set up an extended session with someone true and tested (Taylor Star, Altoona Tuna, Vika etc)
4) Stay home dial for eros or CL outcall services (multiple or extended)
5) Visit multiple CL incall services
6) Monger on SOBT/Lee roads
7) Is there an option I overlooked ?[/QUOTE]I would have to ask three questions first.
1. Do you want to make sure you bust a nut? (the strip club option)
2. Are the looks of the girls important (the SW option)
3. Is the variety more important than feeling comfortable (the tried and true option).
Please post the results as you get them,,,I have kind of gone through the same questions myself.
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[QUOTE=Big Bob III]Lets say I have an opportunity coming up - a whole evening and night free to myself for mongering. The budget is say around $300. The objective is to spend the most TIME possible, near the HOTTEST female possible with the best ATTITUDE possible with the least RISK possible. Here are some of my options....what would you guys recommend?
1) Drive west to Tampa for the clubs there
2) Drive east to Cocoa beach clubs
3) Set up an extended session with someone true and tested (Taylor Star, Altoona Tuna, Vika etc)
4) Stay home dial for eros or CL outcall services (multiple or extended)
5) Visit multiple CL incall services
6) Monger on SOBT/Lee roads
7) Is there an option I overlooked ?[/QUOTE]Ok here is the deal. You have 300 to spend and would like to have fun and reduce your risk.
You are on the right track with your 7 options. I would call a CL outcall massage to give you a great massage. A legit one keep it about 50 bucks.
Then drive arounf the obt searching for some tuna however don, t catrch any. All you want to so is spark your senses. Then head over to cocoa for some touchy feely lap dances. 100 bucks. Then see The Altoona Tuna and get your pipes blown out 150 bucks. The feel of walking out an hour later and no strings. Priceless.
[QUOTE=SingleMoms]I would have to ask three questions first.
1. Do you want to make sure you bust a nut? (the strip club option)
2. Are the looks of the girls important (the SW option)
3. Is the variety more important than feeling comfortable (the tried and true option).
Please post the results as you get them,,,I have kind of gone through the same questions myself.
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SM - The objective is to maximize all of them...looks, attitude, time while lowering risk (of leo and bad providers)
[QUOTE=Mr Orlando]Ok here is the deal. You have 300 to spend and would like to have fun and reduce your risk.
You are on the right track with your 7 options. I would call a CL outcall massage to give you a great massage. A legit one keep it about 50 bucks.
Then drive arounf the obt searching for some tuna however don, t catrch any. All you want to so is spark your senses. Then head over to cocoa for some touchy feely lap dances. 100 bucks. Then see The Altoona Tuna and get your pipes blown out 150 bucks. The feel of walking out an hour later and no strings. Priceless.[/QUOTE]
Good shot! Your plan buys me about 2.5 hours of fun (assuming 10 songs = 60 minutes) with reasonably hot babes with very low risk! I like it. Only hesitation is driving from Orlando - cocoa beach - altoona etc (probably drunk). Hmmm maybe I'll just schedule with Heavely Hands in Cocoa. Keep these suggestions coming!
[quote] 7) Is there an option I overlooked ?[/QUOTE]
Of course there is an option or two that you missed!! I like some of the suggestions you have gotten so far.....or, you could subscribe to a porno site for a month for $29.95 or a $2.95 ,2 day trial sub. Then get a bottle of cannola oil (very good for the skin) ,a cheap bottle of Muscatel wine( ask any wino for the best brand) pour the wine over your fist , this gets your date drunk. Turn on the computer and your newly drunk date will take care of the rest! Voila!
Total cost 1)--oil--$2.95
2)-Wine $ 4.95
3)-Porn site $29.95
Total $37.85 and you should have plenty left over to repeat the action for at least a week, and yes Antagonist I am speaking from personal experience!!!LOL
Leaving you $ 262.15 to invest in Real Estate which will make you very wealthy and you'll never have to think about money again!!--VS
[QUOTE=VerySlowly]Of course there is an option or two that you missed!! I like some of the suggestions you have gotten so far.....or, you could subscribe to a porno site for a month for $29.95 or a $2.95 ,2 day trial sub. Then get a bottle of cannola oil (very good for the skin) ,a cheap bottle of Muscatel wine( ask any wino for the best brand) pour the wine over your fist , this gets your date drunk. Turn on the computer and your newly drunk date will take care of the rest! Voila!
Total cost 1)--oil--$2.95
2)-Wine $ 4.95
3)-Porn site $29.95
Total $37.85 and you should have plenty left over to repeat the action for at least a week, and yes Antagonist I am speaking from personal experience!!!LOL
Leaving you $ 262.15 to invest in Real Estate which will make you very wealthy and you'll never have to think about money again!!--VS[/QUOTE]I'd skip the oil LOL
Lol I agree its funny and stupid all in one..... who actually thinks like that??? if you don't get a good vibe from the provider leave your not entitled to stay. I've had customers that I've met where I either didn't feel safe or just got a bad vibe from and I got up and left before the money was exchanged of course but that's the point of checking each other out beforehand.... it's not worth it
[QUOTE=Sponge Worthy]Who says there's no entertainment during the writer's strike? That's got to be the funniest and dumbest fucking thing I've seen in a while. Let me see if I understand you correctly. You think it's ridiculous to have a conversation specifying your desires before doing business, but you don't think it's ridiculous to use a gun to intimidate her because you're not man enough to do it any other way?
Did I get that right?
So what are you going to do if she says "I don't do doggy style" after you've allowed her to know that you're carrying? Are you going to point the gun in her face and yell "On your knees, *****!", or are you going to simply whimper the same way you would if you didn't have a gun with you?
Owning a gun doesn't make you a man. Acting like one would be a step in the right direction. You want her to do something and she wants money. Fine. Escalate the amount you're willing to pay in order to get what you want.[/QUOTE]
God never thought about that...... guess those mirrors can come in handy for other reasons......
[QUOTE=Tinaa]Some girls don't do doggy because they are afraid on being hit over the head strangled from behind or worse !IF you came to see me and talked about a gun the session would immediately be over and I would definatley call security here at my apartment complex to escort you out !I am in a gated community for this reason .... my life is worth more than 200 dollars to me .I definately would not turn my back on you and now big boy here comes the real question what if she's packing or what if she has a pimp that is? You really are endangering yourself and your hobby.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=VerySlowly]Of course there is an option or two that you missed!! I like some of the suggestions you have gotten so far.....or, you could subscribe to a porno site for a month for $29.95 or a $2.95 ,2 day trial sub. Then get a bottle of cannola oil (very good for the skin) ,a cheap bottle of Muscatel wine( ask any wino for the best brand) pour the wine over your fist , this gets your date drunk. Turn on the computer and your newly drunk date will take care of the rest! Voila!
Total cost 1)--oil--$2.95
2)-Wine $ 4.95
3)-Porn site $29.95
Total $37.85 and you should have plenty left over to repeat the action for at least a week, and yes Antagonist I am speaking from personal experience!!!LOL
Leaving you $ 262.15 to invest in Real Estate which will make you very wealthy and you'll never have to think about money again!!--VS[/QUOTE]
This one drew a chuckle from me !! Classic VS. It certainly scores the best in 3 of the objectives - Time, Attitude and Lowest Risk. Unfortunately it fails in the last one - namely "near hottest female possible". Its hard to imagine that "near the picture of hot female" is the same as "near a hot female" ... even after the wine and maybe a wig on my fist :(
Anyways, I have received some other creative suggestions too...
1) Arrange on overnight with Kim Willis or some provider who might be willing to negotiate
2) Buy one of those $9 tickets to Costa Rica with Spirit Airlines and book a provider for a couple of nights
3) Advertise in the m4w section of CL and see who bites
4) Other variations of Mr. Orlando's suggestion - consisting of massage, titty bar and CL
[QUOTE=Mr Orlando]Ok here is the deal. You have 300 to spend and would like to have fun and reduce your risk.
You are on the right track with your 7 options. I would call a CL outcall massage to give you a great massage. A legit one keep it about 50 bucks.
Then drive arounf the obt searching for some tuna however don, t catrch any. All you want to so is spark your senses. Then head over to cocoa for some touchy feely lap dances. 100 bucks. Then see The Altoona Tuna and get your pipes blown out 150 bucks. The feel of walking out an hour later and no strings. Priceless.[/QUOTE]I vote go to The Inner Room. I routinely get either a hand job or bbbj there while getting dances. the trick is to get two girls and one makes sure no one sees what the other is doing. hasnt failed yet!
I did post in c/l m4w and did get a bite. I am supposed to see her on Saturday so some things are possible. And she is free, well as free as any woman can be since they all need some spoiling. While Kim is out of town for a week or so, if in town she just might do an overnighter.
So go for it
Jethrow
HPV Causing More Oral Cancer in Men
Virus That Causes Women's Cervical Cancer Is Gaining Ground As Cause of Oral Cancer in Men
By MIKE STOBBE
The Associated Press
ATLANTA
The sexually transmitted virus that causes cervical cancer in women is poised to become one of the leading causes of oral cancer in men, according to a new study.
The HPV virus now causes as many cancers of the upper throat as tobacco and alcohol, probably due both to an increase in oral sex and the decline in smoking, researchers say.
The only available vaccine against HPV, made by Merck & Co. Inc., is currently given only to girls and young women. But Merck plans this year to ask government permission to offer the shot to boys.
Experts say a primary reason for male vaccinations would be to prevent men from spreading the virus and help reduce the nearly 12,000 cases of cervical cancer diagnosed in U.S. women each year. But the new study should add to the argument that there may be a direct benefit for men, too.
"We need to start having a discussion about those cancers other than cervical cancer that may be affected in a positive way by the vaccine," said study co-author Dr. Maura Gillison of Johns Hopkins University.
The study was published Friday in the Journal of Clinical Oncology.
Human papillomavirus, or HPV, is the leading cause of cervical cancer in women. It also can cause genital warts, penile and anal cancer risks for males that generally don't get the same attention as cervical cancer.
Previous research by Gillison and others established HPV as a primary cause of the estimated 5,600 cancers that occur each year in the tonsils, lower tongue and upper throat. It's also been known that the virus' role in such cancers has been rising.
The new study looked at more than 30 years of National Cancer Institute data on oral cancers. Researchers categorized about 46,000 cases, using a formula to divide them into those caused by HPV and those not connected to the virus.
They concluded the incidence rates for HPV-related oral cancers rose steadily in men from 1973 to 2004, becoming about as common as those from tobacco and alcohol.
The good news is that survival rates for the cancer are also increasing. That's because tumors caused by HPV respond better to chemotherapy and radiation, Gillison said.
"If current trends continue, within the next 10 years there may be more oral cancers in the United States caused by HPV than tobacco or alcohol," Gillison said.
Studies suggest oral sex is associated with HPV-related oral cancers, but a cause-effect relationship has not been proved. Other researchers have suggested that even unwashed hands can spread it to the mouth as well.
Gillison pointed toward sex as an explanation for the increase in male upper throat cancers. However, HPV-related upper throat cancers declined significantly in women from 1973 to 2004.
Merck's vaccine, approved for girls in 2006, is a three-dose series priced at about $360. It is designed to protect against four types of HPV, including one associated with oral cancer.
Merck has been testing the vaccine in an international study, but it is focused on anal and penile cancer and genital warts, not oral cancers, said Kelley Dougherty, a Merck spokeswoman.
"We are continuing to consider additional areas of study that focus on both female and male HPV diseases and cancers," Dougherty said.
Merck officials praised Gillison's research, saying it will elevate the importance of HPV-related oral cancers.
Government officials and the American Cancer Society say they don't know yet whether Merck's vaccine will be successful at preventing disease in men. No data from the company's study are available yet.
Indeed, it's not clear yet that the vaccine even prevents the HPV infection in males, let alone cancer or any other illness, said Debbie Saslow of the American Cancer Society.
Merck plans to seek U.S. Food and Drug Administration approval for the vaccine in men later this year, meaning a government decision would be likely in 2009.
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Simply get vaccinated with the vaccine and feel free to DATY worryfree!
Just take a little plastic wrap along with you. I always carry some around with me. Have never had any complaints. Most girls appreciate me being safe.
[QUOTE=Big Bob III]HPV Causing More Oral Cancer in Men
Virus That Causes Women's Cervical Cancer Is Gaining Ground As Cause of Oral Cancer in Men
By MIKE STOBBE
The Associated Press
ATLANTA
The sexually transmitted virus that causes cervical cancer in women is poised to become one of the leading causes of oral cancer in men, according to a new study.
The HPV virus now causes as many cancers of the upper throat as tobacco and alcohol, probably due both to an increase in oral sex and the decline in smoking, researchers say.
The only available vaccine against HPV, made by Merck & Co. Inc., is currently given only to girls and young women. But Merck plans this year to ask government permission to offer the shot to boys.
Experts say a primary reason for male vaccinations would be to prevent men from spreading the virus and help reduce the nearly 12,000 cases of cervical cancer diagnosed in U.S. women each year. But the new study should add to the argument that there may be a direct benefit for men, too.
"We need to start having a discussion about those cancers other than cervical cancer that may be affected in a positive way by the vaccine," said study co-author Dr. Maura Gillison of Johns Hopkins University.
The study was published Friday in the Journal of Clinical Oncology.
Human papillomavirus, or HPV, is the leading cause of cervical cancer in women. It also can cause genital warts, penile and anal cancer risks for males that generally don't get the same attention as cervical cancer.
Previous research by Gillison and others established HPV as a primary cause of the estimated 5,600 cancers that occur each year in the tonsils, lower tongue and upper throat. It's also been known that the virus' role in such cancers has been rising.
The new study looked at more than 30 years of National Cancer Institute data on oral cancers. Researchers categorized about 46,000 cases, using a formula to divide them into those caused by HPV and those not connected to the virus.
They concluded the incidence rates for HPV-related oral cancers rose steadily in men from 1973 to 2004, becoming about as common as those from tobacco and alcohol.
The good news is that survival rates for the cancer are also increasing. That's because tumors caused by HPV respond better to chemotherapy and radiation, Gillison said.
"If current trends continue, within the next 10 years there may be more oral cancers in the United States caused by HPV than tobacco or alcohol," Gillison said.
Studies suggest oral sex is associated with HPV-related oral cancers, but a cause-effect relationship has not been proved. Other researchers have suggested that even unwashed hands can spread it to the mouth as well.
Gillison pointed toward sex as an explanation for the increase in male upper throat cancers. However, HPV-related upper throat cancers declined significantly in women from 1973 to 2004.
Merck's vaccine, approved for girls in 2006, is a three-dose series priced at about $360. It is designed to protect against four types of HPV, including one associated with oral cancer.
Merck has been testing the vaccine in an international study, but it is focused on anal and penile cancer and genital warts, not oral cancers, said Kelley Dougherty, a Merck spokeswoman.
"We are continuing to consider additional areas of study that focus on both female and male HPV diseases and cancers," Dougherty said.
Merck officials praised Gillison's research, saying it will elevate the importance of HPV-related oral cancers.
Government officials and the American Cancer Society say they don't know yet whether Merck's vaccine will be successful at preventing disease in men. No data from the company's study are available yet.
Indeed, it's not clear yet that the vaccine even prevents the HPV infection in males, let alone cancer or any other illness, said Debbie Saslow of the American Cancer Society.
Merck plans to seek U.S. Food and Drug Administration approval for the vaccine in men later this year, meaning a government decision would be likely in 2009.
On the Net:
Journal of Clinical Oncology: [url]http://jco.ascopubs.org[/url]
Copyright 2008 The Associated Press. All rights reserved. This material may not be published, broadcast, rewritten, or redistributed.
Copyright © 2008 ABC News Internet Ventures
[url]http://abcnews.go.com/Health/Sex/wireStory?id=4230138[/url][/QUOTE]
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