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Do you come right out and ask if they want to "make sum ca $h"?

Or you try and meet with them first, get them horny and see if you can get a cheap session off them in the heat of the moment?

A couple girls in SD have offered me sessions for $$$ but I dunno, I have trouble paying that when Tijuana is so close and less than $.

A cpl girls up in the Bay Area have asked me for x10 $, to which I asked them if they have gold and diamonds in their poosies, LOL, then wished them gud luck, LOL.

A couple strategies I'm thinking for San Diego is:

1) For the girls that ask ca $h upfront, pay them the first time, do a gud job and get them hooked on the D, then for nxt session just tell them I have $ or $$, and see if they interested.

2) For girls who don't ask for ca $h first, meet them, try and make them horny, and try and get a cheap or free bang.

[QUOTE=CuteSuzie;3688253]Has anyone seen her?

[URL]https://www.seekingarrangement.com/member/9b555653-f382-402a-8964-e83e2b778214[/URL][/QUOTE]There were some prior discussions in the past. As always, YMMV and there may be some that had a positive experience.

[QUOTE=TennisNut;3688202]Please define a rinser.[/QUOTE]Rinser: someone who runs the cycle of rinse, wash, repeat. Could be either SD or an SB.

If you're the POT sb, you meet once, get a free meal, drinks and any other gratuities that some lame SD will give her and then she ghosts you never intending to close the deal.

In the case of the SD, meet, fuck her, and then move on never to return.

[QUOTE=CuteSuzie;3688253]Has anyone seen her?

[URL]https://www.seekingarrangement.com/member/9b555653-f382-402a-8964-e83e2b778214[/URL][/QUOTE]She offers nudes and videos for $50. I didn't bite. She agreed to a M&G, but I haven't followed up with her yet. She seems game enough. LOL.

[QUOTE=PimpinIt;3688349]Do you come right out and ask if they want to "make sum ca $h"?

Or you try and meet with them first, get them horny and see if you can get a cheap session off them in the heat of the moment?

A couple girls in SD have offered me sessions for $$$ but I dunno, I have trouble paying that when Tijuana is so close and less than $.

A cpl girls up in the Bay Area have asked me for x10 $, to which I asked them if they have gold and diamonds in their poosies, LOL, then wished them gud luck, LOL.

A couple strategies I'm thinking for San Diego is:

1) For the girls that ask ca $h upfront, pay them the first time, do a gud job and get them hooked on the D, then for nxt session just tell them I have $ or $$, and see if they interested.

2) For girls who don't ask for ca $h first, meet them, try and make them horny, and try and get a cheap or free bang.[/QUOTE]Just wondering if anyone else has any strategies.

[QUOTE=PimpinIt;3689100]Just wondering if anyone else has any strategies.[/QUOTE]I take a more gentleman-like approach. I prefer working women (business professionals, not prostitutes / escorts). I've met a few girls who were so desperate, they would suck a dick for a full tank of gas. That's not really my thing. I'm not here to fkn rescue anyone. I also like them in their 20's /30's. Slim or fit body.

The SBs I've rolled with were pretty straight forward about their arrangements. They typically agree to $300/ session; however, when it came down to it, they didn't want any money.

I'm working on another project. Will divulge more information soon. This one has no gag reflex, loves cum on her face, and melts when you rub her clit and face fk her--It's crazy! She also hasn't mentioned anything about money yet, but she does want me to stick around and hang out after the session instead of just running off. Let me figure her out first. LOL.

[QUOTE=ArrogantBstrd;3689594]I take a more gentleman-like approach. I prefer working women (business professionals, not prostitutes / escorts). I.....
The SBs I've rolled with were pretty straight forward about their arrangements. They typically agree to $300/ session; however, when it came down to it, they didn't want any money.[/QUOTE]This seems the opposite of my experience, which is that the older women with jobs tend to suffer from GPS, and want more than girl-next-door students (the sensible ones, that is). My rationalization is that they may have a job, but also have higher expenses. Apartment, car, college loan, etc.

Mommysmilk hit me up several times offering lactation feeding. Anyone ever meet up?

[URL]https://www.seekingarrangement.com/member/6fa2b7d5-af63-41c0-86e6-8edc47926f51[/URL]

[QUOTE=PimpinIt;3689100]Just wondering if anyone else has any strategies.[/QUOTE]I also like to be a gentleman. That means I sometimes waste a lot of time--and maybe money--but I also spend time with some women who are delightfully intelligent and fun to be with. Now, not all of them turn into fuck buddies, but that's a risk I take.

Never be obvious about the money part of it ("So, do you want to make some money? Otherwise you'll end up paying more than you have to and being with mostly pros and women with low self-esteem.

Think of it as hybrid dating. You want to be a nice guy and you're gaining access to women who otherwise would not give you the time of day. So, yes, money is involved, but it's not the first order of business, as it is with a pro.

[QUOTE=TennisNut;3690083]I also like to be a gentleman. That means I sometimes waste a lot of time--and maybe money--but I also spend time with some women who are delightfully intelligent and fun to be with. Now, not all of them turn into fuck buddies, but that's a risk I take.

Never be obvious about the money part of it ("So, do you want to make some money? Otherwise you'll end up paying more than you have to and being with mostly pros and women with low self-esteem.

Think of it as hybrid dating. You want to be a nice guy and you're gaining access to women who otherwise would not give you the time of day. So, yes, money is involved, but it's not the first order of business, as it is with a pro.[/QUOTE]This is alexsq and Lina's pimp.

[QUOTE=JakeDSnake;3690305]This is alexsq and Lina's pimp.[/QUOTE]LOL.

Do you have a link for their profile? I want to try out this 'gentleman' thing.

Thanks for the tips, suggestions, and experiences fellas.

I may have been coming out too strong with the P4 P strategy.

I got blocked by a few super hotties, which makes me sad.

On the otherhand, sum were upfront that's what they looking for. So at least I have some 'gotos'.

Ill try and tone down the P4 P attitude and see where that takes me.

[QUOTE=ArrogantBstrd;3689594]
I take a more gentleman-like approach.
[/QUOTE]Thanks, Ill try this!

[QUOTE=ArrogantBstrd;3689594]
This one has no gag reflex, loves cum on her face, and melts when you rub her clit and face fk her--It's crazy![/QUOTE]LOL. You get x2 Gentleman point for this move!

I never bring up money, that is their responsibility. It's up to them to initiate that part of the discussion otherwise you will end up paying more than you need to. Another important point: Remember, we have the sugar that they want. It's up to you as to how you can best get them to accept it from you. Every POT brain is wired differently, some just plain want money for their honey, others you have to work on their supratentorial region to make any progress. It's all part of playing in the bowl.

Gents, wantes to share this with you all.

[URL]https://www.eros.com/california/san_diego/files/7182506.htm[/URL]

[URL]https://seekingarrangement.com/member/deafddbb-a12c-4de8-95a7-4c3d906a733a[/URL]

[QUOTE=Waxxon;3691670]I never bring up money, that is their responsibility. It's up to them to initiate that part of the discussion otherwise you will end up paying more than you need to. Another important point: Remember, we have the sugar that they want. It's up to you as to how you can best get them to accept it from you. Every POT brain is wired differently, some just plain want money for their honey, others you have to work on their supratentorial region to make any progress. It's all part of playing in the bowl.[/QUOTE]I agree with Waxxon. Try not to show even a bit curious or eager to meet with any SB and agree to P4 P or PPM. We have what they want and that is sugar. Try to play the entire filed (entire ocean if you will) ans don't waste your time with these types of SBs demanding $$ prior to the getting to know you first encounter. Happy searching.

Was looking around the SA site and stumbled upon this off shoot branch, some interesting stuff, especially on the "sugar support forums". Now I get why there is so much GPS among the POT and even SB's.

[URL]https://www.letstalksugar.com/[/URL]

[QUOTE=Waxxon;3686990]Here's a young latina who is ready to go. She contacted me and wanted to come over. I'm up in north county and I said I wanted a quick meet and greet first. Understandably she didn't want to drive up just for a M&G, so we're going to have one down in San Diego next week and go from there. My guess is pro or semipro.

Babydoll1904 [URL]https://www.seekingarrangement.com/member/8827001e-28e2-4979-afa5-9fbd52d75d2f[/URL].

Report back if you close the deal.[/QUOTE]Interesting. I texted back and forth with her for awhile. She seems to bounce between Chula Vista and LA. Was always friendly and asked to meet a few times; but we never seemed to find a time that worked for both of us. She claimed that P4 P was ok. Also said she is a big foodie. Was always polite and cordial in texts and actually seemed pretty down to earth.

I personally have found the Seeking Arrangement site to be very good. More importantly form what I have researched on-line the police focus more on craigslist and backpage. Take a look at: [URL]https://www.reddit.com/r/sugarlifestyleforum/comments/4mtuzs/le_and_seekingarrangement/[/URL].

The fees are a bit steep at $80/ month; but overall, with a little screening and work, the quality of my dates is good. If you are looking for more than a one off or looking for a longer term arrangement while still playing the field this fee is worth it. You do need to pay this to message SBs. It also hides your last login date and login status; though if you and an SB are both logged in at the same time it shows that. You are also still sorted by last active date if you haven't hidden your profile so be aware it is far from perfect.

I have had a total of 5 arrangements over the years which lasted from 3-6 months each. In addition, since I have started using it in San Diego, I have found several short term arrangements which, for about $250 to $300 or so gets you a few hours with a college aged cutie.

Someone asked about strategies. I always insist on a short M&G in a public place without payment or expectation of intimacy. I prefer to do this over a casual lunch too. This gives one a chance to feel out the girl and what she is looking for. It also reduces the risk of a sting as the PD doesn't want to waste several man hours on this. If you are interested you can always make a deal at the M&G; but I still advise finishing up and contacting them later.

There is a mix of pros and non-pros. Until I figure out what they want I usually avoid any p4 p conversation. I simply make it clear that for any allowances or arrangements that intimacy is required. I don't say physical intimacy until the M&G.

One common question is what are you looking for in an arrangement? This question used to annoy me; but now it is just another step on closing a deal. "I am looking for a fun girl that wants to go out for a nice meal, some laughs and create some intimacy before turning in together for the night. " I have a file with a whole set of responses to common questions depending on what I am looking for.

My profile is several paragraphs long and was specifically designed to be both inviting and weed out women who I might find undesirable. I. e. "I am only 5'8" and really prefer a woman who isn't taller than me. " and "I am not sure why; but I have always been attracted to Latina women – if you have some of that fiery blood running though your veins I would love to hear from you. " Note this last one could exclude a lot of SBs so think about how any potential SB might read what you write. Or "I am looking for a local arrangement in the San Diego area – if you can be downtown within 20 minutes that is a great start!" I always try to be inviting and ask them to favorite me if they meet my criteria. Finally be sure to state something along the lines that you understand the nature of an arrangement and that you expect both parties to get what they need from an arrangement. This is read as "Daddy knows he has to pay for it".

Would love to hear any other tips or experiences from other SDs who have used Seeking Arrangement.

[QUOTE=Hammar;3699323]Interesting. I texted back and forth with her for awhile. She seems to bounce between Chula Vista and LA. Was always friendly and asked to meet a few times; but we never seemed to find a time that worked for both of us. She claimed that P4 P was ok. Also said she is a big foodie. Was always polite and cordial in texts and actually seemed pretty down to earth.[/QUOTE]She also contacted me several times, offering to meet BCD same day (by implication. She wanted to "come around" One time she was offering doubles with a friend. She must contact everyone.

[QUOTE=Hammar;3699431]There is a mix of pros and non-pros....[/QUOTE]Reminds me to ask the following: Are there any pornstars on SA locally? Any successes?

[QUOTE=PussyPumper;3702856]Reminds me to ask the following: Are there any pornstars on SA locally? Any successes?[/QUOTE] I don't know about on SA, but in the San Diego area in general: A couple of years ago I knew of two sort of C-list porn stars who charged reasonable, regular escort type rates: Taj Malaj and Jackie Ashe, both of whom I saw (Jackie Ashe multiple times). I found Taj very business-like and never repeated, Jackie Ashe had some actually went from near GFE good provider to, after suffering some real-life drama, turned into a desperate stalker-type person who used to just contact me at inopportune times to try to get money from me. To the point I had to change my cell phone #. Thankfully I never saw her anywhere near where I lived. I don't know if either one is still based in San Diego.

I think there's one named Riley Ray who's based around Carlsbad, but her rates are about double typical escorts, and she's past her prime looks wise, so I never pursued.

Just met this sweety. She is cute, easy going, pics are accurate, and she is DTF:

[URL]https://www.seekingarrangement.com/member/7865340f-8f8f-4cb8-b3ea-d0fb59f59690[/URL]

She is so sweet, and a little ditzy. We actually ended up eating dinner together after the sesh.

Apparently, I don't have much of a gentleman inside me, because all I want to talk about w these girls is P4 P.

She asked for x5 $, but I always negotiate.

Treat her nice!

I've been seeing Candy every other week since last month by p4 p at 3 bens for two hours. Good BBBJ, covered everything else including anal and allows multiple pops. On average I get to cum in all holes 3-4 times each encounter and will allow overtime without charging extra. This is her profile and she's been mentioned here before.

[URL]https://www.seekingarrangement.com/member/4a087045-9a4a-4a57-a446-4ae57035d200[/URL]

Last week after cumming in all her holes, she had asked if I wanted to go to Vegas this weekend I said couldn't. Then she asked if I can pay for her trip or for receive advanced payment for the next 3 meet ups. I told her I am not going to do either. She went ballistic on me and told me she wouldn't meet up with me again. I said that's fine. So she's looking for a new SD or may have found one in Vegas this weekend at the SA party.

[QUOTE=PussyPumper;3702856]Reminds me to ask the following: Are there any pornstars on SA locally? Any successes?[/QUOTE]What I've read on this site from a few who are experienced is to avoid at all costs. Those who have partaken have said it was some of the worst sex they've ever had.

[QUOTE=JakeDSnake;3706706]I've been seeing Candy every other week since last month by p4 p at 3 bens for two hours. Good BBBJ, covered everything else including anal and allows multiple pops. On average I get to cum in all holes 3-4 times each encounter and will allow overtime without charging extra. This is her profile and she's been mentioned here before.

[URL]https://www.seekingarrangement.com/member/4a087045-9a4a-4a57-a446-4ae57035d200[/URL]

Last week after cumming in all her holes, she had asked if I wanted to go to Vegas this weekend I said couldn't. Then she asked if I can pay for her trip or for receive advanced payment for the next 3 meet ups. I told her I am not going to do either. She went ballistic on me and told me she wouldn't meet up with me again. I said that's fine. So she's looking for a new SD or may have found one in Vegas this weekend at the SA party.[/QUOTE]I have met her also, thick, also 3 bens, that was around 1/2 yr ago. I think she has many accounts, with handles always go by "Candice. " Sorry to hear it didn't work out.

[QUOTE=PussyPumper;3702856]Reminds me to ask the following: Are there any pornstars on SA locally? Any successes?[/QUOTE]I traded some notes with a profile named "LetLoveWin" based in San Diego. [URL]https://seekingarrangement.com/member/5abe29df-359c-4342-8dbd-2e3cb3f22fba[/URL].

Never met with her; but she claimed to be an ex-porn star.

[QUOTE=JakeDSnake;3706706]I've been seeing Candy every other week since last month by p4 p at 3 bens for two hours. Good BBBJ, covered everything else including anal and allows multiple pops. On average I get to cum in all holes 3-4 times each encounter and will allow overtime without charging extra. This is her profile and she's been mentioned here before.

[URL]https://www.seekingarrangement.com/member/4a087045-9a4a-4a57-a446-4ae57035d200[/URL]

Last week after cumming in all her holes, she had asked if I wanted to go to Vegas this weekend I said couldn't. Then she asked if I can pay for her trip or for receive advanced payment for the next 3 meet ups. I told her I am not going to do either. She went ballistic on me and told me she wouldn't meet up with me again. I said that's fine. So she's looking for a new SD or may have found one in Vegas this weekend at the SA party.[/QUOTE]OMG so glad you didn't pay in advance. I meant to add that in to my tip column below. Never pay multiple allowances in advance.

[QUOTE=KingBaby;3706928]I have met her also, thick, also 3 bens, that was around 1/2 yr ago. I think she has many accounts, with handles always go by "Candice. " Sorry to hear it didn't work out.[/QUOTE]I saw Candice and her roommate Shay. Both of them let me cum inside. Candice is a bigger tall girl ex volleyball player or something. Shay is a tiny petite girl. Both hot as fuck. Candice let me go bare for 2. Shay let me go bare for 2. 5. Have pics to prove it.

[QUOTE=KingBaby;3706928]I have met her also, thick, also 3 bens, that was around 1/2 yr ago. I think she has many accounts, with handles always go by "Candice. " Sorry to hear it didn't work out.[/QUOTE]I've seen her and her roommate Shay. Both let me cream pie them. Have pics to prove it. Candice let me for 200. Shay was 250.

She's gone already.

[QUOTE=PimpinIt;3706090]Just met this sweety. She is cute, easy going, pics are accurate, and she is DTF:

[URL]https://www.seekingarrangement.com/member/7865340f-8f8f-4cb8-b3ea-d0fb59f59690[/URL]

She is so sweet, and a little ditzy. We actually ended up eating dinner together after the sesh.

Apparently, I don't have much of a gentleman inside me, because all I want to talk about w these girls is P4 P.

She asked for x5 $, but I always negotiate.

Treat her nice![/QUOTE]

She pulled her profile again. Wonder for how long and what her new name will be?

[QUOTE=HappyPlay;3686226][URL]https://www.seekingarrangement.com/member/eb3a5068-811d-4cb7-95ac-dc2885f1faa3[/URL]

Anyone seen her recently? I saw her before thanksgiving but nothing since.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Nordzy;3707546]I saw Candice and her roommate Shay. Both of them let me cum inside. Candice is a bigger tall girl ex volleyball player or something. Shay is a tiny petite girl. Both hot as fuck. Candice let me go bare for 2. Shay let me go bare for 2. 5. Have pics to prove it.[/QUOTE]Since you said you have pics to prove the bb and other things so would you share then to show as proof?

[QUOTE=JakeDSnake;3708406]Since you said you have pics to prove the bb and other things so would you share then to show as proof?[/QUOTE]Best one I have of that meeting. She didn't want me to take one of her face so it was the best I got.

[QUOTE=PimpinIt;3706090]Just met this sweety. She is cute, easy going, pics are accurate, and she is DTF:

[URL]https://www.seekingarrangement.com/member/7865340f-8f8f-4cb8-b3ea-d0fb59f59690[/URL]

She is so sweet, and a little ditzy. We actually ended up eating dinner together after the sesh.

Apparently, I don't have much of a gentleman inside me, because all I want to talk about w these girls is P4 P.

She asked for x5 $, but I always negotiate.

Treat her nice![/QUOTE]What does x5 $ mean?

Been talking to this one and she is asking 400 to start. Told her that is more than I do and she said we can work something out.

[URL]https://www.seekingarrangement.com/member/e38ac50c-eec5-4c7c-ac21-a5e673341a51[/URL]

[QUOTE=HappyPlay;3707798]She pulled her profile again. Wonder for how long and what her new name will be?[/QUOTE]She's up in LA right now, spends time up there and down here.

[QUOTE=Nordzy;3708792]Best one I have of that meeting. She didn't want me to take one of her face so it was the best I got.[/QUOTE]You can pm and add more with clarity and with shay.

[QUOTE=Jaymactx;3709347]Been talking to this one and she is asking 400 to start. Told her that is more than I do and she said we can work something out.

[URL]https://www.seekingarrangement.com/member/e38ac50c-eec5-4c7c-ac21-a5e673341a51[/URL][/QUOTE]Have not personally seen her, but she has been all over craigslist for at least the past year. Looks like she just made the transition. I tried hitting her up, laughed when she said 400. She said she could do a quick visit for 200. I stopped messaging her after that. She use to advertise on Craigslist all the time for $100-$120. Good luck tho.

[QUOTE=JakeDSnake;3706706]I've been seeing Candy every other week since last month by p4 p at 3 bens for two hours. Good BBBJ, covered everything else including anal and allows multiple pops. On average I get to cum in all holes 3-4 times each encounter and will allow overtime without charging extra. This is her profile and she's been mentioned here before.

[URL]https://www.seekingarrangement.com/member/4a087045-9a4a-4a57-a446-4ae57035d200[/URL]

Last week after cumming in all her holes, she had asked if I wanted to go to Vegas this weekend I said couldn't. Then she asked if I can pay for her trip or for receive advanced payment for the next 3 meet ups. I told her I am not going to do either. She went ballistic on me and told me she wouldn't meet up with me again. I said that's fine. So she's looking for a new SD or may have found one in Vegas this weekend at the SA party.[/QUOTE]The first photo looks a lot different than the others. She looks a little meaty in the rest of the photos, but really thin in the first pic.

Personally I like the meaty version.