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Saw her today. Not bad for early 40's. Had a non aggressive massag for about 40 min on the back. On the flip her top came down to expose a very nice set of c cups. Roaming on them was welcomed! Left her place feeling relaxed and refreshed! Not bad for Richmond
I am wondering if the advertisements which have an actual Price for a massage or other services can be assumed to be real (not LE). I thought that LE couldn't put a price in the ad. That would be entrapment.
[QUOTE=Va Jammin]I am wondering if the advertisements which have an actual Price for a massage or other services can be assumed to be real (not LE). I thought that LE couldn't put a price in the ad. That would be entrapment.[/QUOTE]
You have to very careful about that, a lot of things you think they can't do they actually can, and no money needs to exchange hands for an arrest to be made. Any action or talk regarding a monetary sum is considered solicitation of, and any actual exchange of money becomes the act of, the laws are all different by locality as to what is entrapment. You can check the local laws as well as state and federal laws online, just remember state laws must meet the federal guidelines but can be more extreme than federal and local laws more so than state laws. There currently are no federal mandates regarding the particular topic, so states have there own laws and then local governments adopt or add to those, this is also the same for penal actions for the court process. If the locality has no laws it falls to the state held level, which is usually the case in Virginia, some exceptions being Fairfax and Chesterfield counties. Be careful out there it isn't always as simple as what you hear.
I'll comment on this based upon "these advertisements" being those on CL & BP and those advertising for massages and massage services.
Massage is a medical term and legally is supposed to be provided by a licensed or certified massage therapist or other licensed medical professional. If anyone advertises offering massage under a paid service they have to be legal and if they're not they're violating laws. If LE advertises for massages, in my opinion, that's entrapment. From what I was told, these providers can advertise for "body rubs" with no nudity to make it legal.
Massage were discussed on another forum. Here's a link to what I posted:
[url]http://www.usasexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=911189&postcount=164[/url]
I've been told that if LE advertises, especially for a sting, on a forum or public website they have to have permission from the ownership. Basic TOS rules of sites usually tell you about LE cooperation or possible use of the site. I've read case laws where lawyers have had cases dismissed and overturned on appeal because of that. LE can't advertise for an illegal activity. LE ads are generally vague and don't have photos of people. They set you up to trap yourself.
Entrapment: A police officer encourages a person to commit a crime so that the officer can have him prosecuted for that crime.
[url]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Entrapment[/url]
I have yet to see any "Entrapment Defined" in the Code of VA. I was told they use the definition found in any legal/law dictionary.
There's also this that LE statewide uses: "Agent Provocateur"
[url]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Agent_provocateur[/url]
Traditionally, an agent provocateur (plural: agents provocateurs, French for "inciting agent(s)") is a person employed by the police or other entity to act undercover to entice or provoke another person to commit an illegal act.
If anyone remembers "The Bikini Girl" from Operation Flea Collar that took down The Big Dog years back - that's a good example. This girl was a citizen under a "contract" with LE to to pose and work as a full-service escort - and to be their informant.
Locally, they use this. They use girls with pending charges against them. They work as an "agent" to have their charges dismissed. IN the past 3 years, I know of several girls who took that deal. They can encourage you to commit a crime, help obtain the evidence and you're busted.
If anyone has read the paper, these girls line up to testify against agencies that have been busted in immunity deals. They even issued subpeona's to clients from credit card charges and phone records. Girls from Roses's Bad Girls and Aphrodite (Tidewater) are exmaples. Plenty were lined up for the "DC Madam."
Then there's the classic "snitch" like Tim Cole of Rose's Bad Girls. Under his plea agreement he got charges dropped and sentence reduction for assisting LE in "on-going investigations" in the area.
For the most part, LE goes after the providers, pimps, agency owners, etc. I have heard of some "John's" getting pooped but mostly in SW stings.
[QUOTE=Va Jammin]I am wondering if the advertisements which have an actual Price for a massage or other services can be assumed to be real (not LE). I thought that LE couldn't put a price in the ad. That would be entrapment.[/QUOTE]
You make a lot of good points. Craigs List has also been very clear that they cooperate with LE on investigations. Or I should say on "stings".
Here's a link about the Big Doggie bust in 1992 that Richmond Man mentions.
[url]http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/10896432/[/url]
[QUOTE=Richmond Man]...
If anyone remembers "The Bikini Girl" from Operation Flea Collar that took down The Big Dog years back - that's a good example. This girl was a citizen under a "contract" with LE to to pose and work as a full-service escort - and to be their informant....
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Kelly was one of the best webmasters and site builders on the East Coast at one time. He started TBD to satisfy his own interests then greed took over. The "Top 20 List" was really his perosnal listed and girls were ranked on their "favors" to him. That's part of what started the investigation into the site - which most of the activity was done in FL. The whole story, including court documents was online at one time.
CL has always made it clear they cooperate with LE. In news reports, "police rep's" have indicated BP does, too.
Here's what BP says:
[url]http://richmond.backpage.com/online/classifieds/Terms[/url]
16. Using the Site to engage in or assist another individual or entity to engage in fraudulent, abusive, manipulative or illegal activity.
There's a lot of stuff in these TOS rules we're supposed to know.
[QUOTE=Superman06]You make a lot of good points. Craigs List has also been very clear that they cooperate with LE on investigations. Or I should say on "stings".
Here's a link about the Big Doggie bust in 1992 that Richmond Man mentions.
[url]http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/10896432/[/url][/QUOTE]
Anyone care to share any recon or do I need to toftt?
e.e. monger
Is this the same one that also goes by Amanda Lynn Jones?
Early forties, blonde, escort/sensual massage
If so, there is plenty of info on her and it's good to know she is back and working.
CB
[QUOTE=Eastendmonger]Anyone care to share any recon or do I need to toftt?
e.e. monger[/QUOTE]
Lynn Jones is not the Lynn/Amanda we know and have discussed here.
[QUOTE=CyberBob1991]Is this the same one that also goes by Amanda Lynn Jones?
Early forties, blonde, escort/sensual massage
CB[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Eastendmonger]Anyone care to share any recon or do I need to toftt?
e.e. monger[/QUOTE]
Talked to her the other day, rates are average escort prices, the only thing is there is no FS. She give nude massage only, and I declined as the pic she sent me was not even good enough to see, and she expects that you pay her for her time even if you decide she isn't what you want upon arrival, even for incall. Sorry but I like to have the choice of actually seeing what I am paying for, and for those rates I expect more then a no touching allowed massage.
Did you get one of those "Sending you a pic now, but I do look much better in person..." emails with a poor quality pic of what appears to be a woman over 120# (as she claims) on a bed in a porn pose?
"I live near Willis Rd...I do incalls in my home...I live in a trailer, but no worries...My neighbors keep to themselves, and they think im a contract underwriter..." She also mentioned having children.
[QUOTE=Lone Wolf]Talked to her the other day, rates are average escort prices, the only thing is there is no FS. She give nude massage only, and I declined as the pic she sent me was not even good enough to see, and she expects that you pay her for her time even if you decide she isn't what you want upon arrival, even for incall. Sorry but I like to have the choice of actually seeing what I am paying for, and for those rates I expect more then a no touching allowed massage.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Richmond Man]Did you get one of those "Sending you a pic now, but I do look much better in person..." emails with a poor quality pic of what appears to be a woman over 120# (as she claims) on a bed in a porn pose?
"I live near Willis Rd...I do incalls in my home...I live in a trailer, but no worries...My neighbors keep to themselves, and they think im a contract underwriter..." She also mentioned having children.[/QUOTE]
Did not get the I have children, but did get the I look much better, must be her standard email spew. The pic I would guess she is older then she claims as well, and yes more than 120 I would say about 150 or better.
For a total legit massage, I'd highly recommend:
[url]http://ashleeebrooks.co.cc/[/url]
She also advertises on CL in the therapeutic section.
[url]http://richmond.craigslist.org/search/thp?query=+[/url]
[QUOTE=Richmond Man]For a total legit massage, I'd highly recommend:
[url]http://ashleeebrooks.co.cc/[/url]
She also advertises on CL in the therapeutic section.
[url]http://richmond.craigslist.org/search/thp?query=+[/url][/QUOTE]
Yes for Massage that is just that and very good I would agree, and she isn't bad to look at either.
[QUOTE=Lone Wolf]Yes for Massage that is just that and very good I would agree, and she isn't bad to look at either.[/QUOTE]
Looking at her site, I see that she graduated massage school in Utah. That, and her reference to being blessed by God with a talent for massage, would lead me to believe that she won't vary one iota from her stated policy. Too, too bad!