2005 Archived Streetwalker Reports

[QUOTE=ClitCommander]Think of it as a traffic school here you have to attend. Hope you can comprehend that. It's like John school. You go and attend a class on the hazards of soliciting sex on the street. Of course, the lecturer is a reformed prostitute who has see the error of her ways. Now, Las Vegas has not incorporated such a policy as of recent, but the they seem to be taking a ne approach. Now if ur an attorney, then you must be aware that some states implement such above mentioned policy.[/QUOTE]Nope wasn't aware never gotten busted thanks wasn't sure what nsr was, kinda like AA meetings for Alkies. Hi My Name is John and I tried to buy pussy on the strip. HEHE I think they have that in LA not sure but seems like an awful lot of work just cause a guys is horny, no amount of therapy is gonna fix that, not a big deal as far as I am concerned more dangerous folk out there then your local monger.

[QUOTE=Cienega32]It makes things easier for Metro, within the whole process, and leaves them clear for more serious crimes like car dates.
[/QUOTE]Glad Metro has time for the mongers last time I was on the strip I was wondering where they went with all the thugs starting to populate the Strip. Glad your cops are working as hard out there as they are here on the major s/w problem, Although If I Lived in Las Vegas I would be Much More concerned with making sure the Strip is Spotless and Crime Free, there is no other reason for that city to exist other then the Tourist $, without it there is no Vegas. Spending time on Mongers is a joke, of all the places in the world where the city should ease up on minor sex crimes it is Vegas, What's next Pot Illegal in Amsterdam?

[QUOTE=Webcams]Glad Metro has time for the mongers last time I was on the strip I was wondering where they went with all the thugs starting to populate the Strip. Glad your cops are working as hard out there as they are here on the major s/w problem, Although If I Lived in Las Vegas I would be Much More concerned with making sure the Strip is Spotless and Crime Free, there is no other reason for that city to exist other then the Tourist $, without it there is no Vegas. Spending time on Mongers is a joke, of all the places in the world where the city should ease up on minor sex crimes it is Vegas, What's next Pot Illegal in Amsterdam?[/QUOTE]

I figure that all the johns that go picking up SW are potential "Gary Ridgeway"s. Might be their justification. Anyway, if they turned a blind eye to solicitors they wouldnt be doing their job. And yes, you do have to say, "Hi my name is John and I'm horny" at those meettings. Heehaw!

[QUOTE=Vw2606]It's on Tropicana and Boulder. Go east on trop and it should be on the right side of trop.[/QUOTE]

You forgot a couple of side-streets, friend. Your directions will have people nowhere but on the side of the road.

From Trop, make a right on Steptoe and go to the Red Rooster storage building. They'll help you from there. Same people.

[QUOTE=Webcams]Nope wasn't aware never gotten busted thanks wasn't sure what nsr was, kinda like AA meetings for Alkies. [/QUOTE]

Webcams - NRS is N.R.S. which is Nevada Revised Statute which can be looked at as "The Code of Life" in the great state of Nevada.

Here's one area of the NRS that should be of some interest:

[url]www.leg.state.nv.us/NRS/NRS-201.html#NRS201Sec295[/url]

Coming to Vegas in the next month or two. Would love your help in a few things.

1. I would love a really cheap place. I plan on getting a car to see the sites and drive to gamble. So really the cheaper the better. I ma looking for the places NOTon the internet.

2. Should I use the car to hunt? If not help me out with below. If so I will read back for were.

3. This is a little longer question. The last time I was in Vegas I had just gotten busted a few weeks earlier, so I was not back on the hourse yet. I stayed downtown, and I did go out looking. I really did not see much, and I have really good eye for girls working. I normaly error on the safe side so I almost NEVER ask a girl who is not working. Well the last time I was there I did ask two girls and they knew what I was talking about and both were not working. I walked around awhile too and really only saw 3-4 that were maybes. Is there really not many downtown?

Feal free to PM me, also if you are a little apprehensive (sp) check out all my posts on the Toledo, OH board.

Thanks for the help

Be Safe Out There

Getting issued a citation/ticket and getting arrested are two totally seperate things. An infraction(i.e. minor speeding, jaywalking, etc, depending on the state) is not a crime and will not show up on your criminal record check where as an arrest will. If you fail to show up for your court date or pay the fine for the infraction the state will usually issue a bench warrant for your arrest.
Vice may not take johns down to the station but they would have to restrain you, photograph you and take your prints and then have you post bail right there in a temporary processing area for you to have been technically arrested. After all, how else are they going to run your info for the NCIC check?
I totally agree with the "shut the f_ck up" when you are arrested advice. It is common for cops to try and get you to say something to hang yourself but they won't let you go so it only hurts you if you say something. Depending on your state and the crime, you may also not be read your miranda rights when arrested but if you are processed(fingerprinted and photographed), it's official.

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After all, how else are they going to run your info for the NCIC check?
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I might have missed something, but NCIC checks can be done quickly by just radioing in your driver's liscence info, or even name and date of birth. But good advice about zipping the lip. Until or unless you are actually negotiating a plea, giving any info won't help at all. I've actually toyed with the idea of getting an attorney on retainer for the slight chance of this kind of issues, but so far have done alright just being careful. [knocking on wood...]

[QUOTE=Lip Licker]Getting issued a citation/ticket and getting arrested are two totally seperate things. An infraction(i.e. minor speeding, jaywalking, etc, depending on the state) is not a crime and will not show up on your criminal record check where as an arrest will. If you fail to show up for your court date or pay the fine for the infraction the state will usually issue a bench warrant for your arrest.
Vice may not take johns down to the station but they would have to restrain you, photograph you and take your prints and then have you post bail right there in a temporary processing area for you to have been technically arrested. After all, how else are they going to run your info for the NCIC check?
I totally agree with the "shut the f_ck up" when you are arrested advice. It is common for cops to try and get you to say something to hang yourself but they won't let you go so it only hurts you if you say something. Depending on your state and the crime, you may also not be read your miranda rights when arrested but if you are processed(fingerprinted and photographed), it's official.[/QUOTE]

Hard to "shut the Fu.ck up" when they got you on audio. If its a sting, you know they will have video or audio to justify the arrest or citation in court.

[QUOTE=Desert Dude]I might have missed something, but NCIC checks can be done quickly by just radioing in your driver's liscence info, or even name and date of birth. [/QUOTE]

Exactly. NCIC has been around close to 40 years and has always been accessable to LEO with a radio. They called it in and the "station house" would run it thru.

NCIC 2000 (as it's called now) allows for any type of search function including phonetic matches, allows the LEO with a computer-car to access directly, and still allows any radio unit like a bike cop to access it.

You never need to be arrested to get run thru NCIC. IAFIS - yes as it uses your fingerprint to basically check your "fugitive" status. But being run thru NCIC needs to be substantiated by the cop's event log. Privacy rights and all that happy crap.

[QUOTE=Lip Licker]Getting issued a citation/ticket and getting arrested are two totally seperate things. An infraction(i.e. minor speeding, jaywalking, etc, depending on the state) is not a crime and will not show up on your criminal record check where as an arrest will. If you fail to show up for your court date or pay the fine for the infraction the state will usually issue a bench warrant for your arrest.[/QUOTE]

You're going apples & oranges here. A ticket does not always represent a minor non-criminal infraction. Some minor criminal cases are handled with a ticket. Trespass is one of them. It depends on the nature and severity of the offense. Minor criminal offenses can be handled with citations/tickets. It's still technicaly an arrest.

Rolling thru a stop sign and criminal trespass are two different animals but both can result in a "ticket".

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Lip Licker - I notice you post in the Honolulu forum and don't know if you understand the unique nature of Nevada. The two biggest tools that casinos have are the "Right to refuse service to anyone at any time for any reason" and the NRS 207.200 (trespass). Being casinos are private property the 207.200 comes in handy for them. The number of trespass crimes that are experienced in any given period of time can be overwhelming for the resources of the LEO system. Some time ago they agreed to make a simple 207.200 a ticketable offense. A crime and technicaly an arrest never the less. It just frees up "the sytem" for crimes of a more serious nature that would dictate immediate processing of the suspect errr... [i]subject[/i]. It took too many cops off the street doing paperwork because of some drunk idiot that didn't understand what trespass was.

"As a duly appointed representative of the owner of this property, I hereby warn you that you are trespassing upon this property as defined by the Nevada Revised Statute 207.200. If you do not leave these premises immediately, you will be subject to arrest for a misdemeanor." After they get hooked-up and LEO comes, a ticket is written and the idiot goes on his way. He was arrested for criminal trespass and it will come back as such.

[QUOTE=Cienega32]You're going apples & oranges here. A ticket does not always represent a minor non-criminal infraction. Some minor criminal cases are handled with a ticket. Trespass is one of them. It depends on the nature and severity of the offense. Minor criminal offenses can be handled with citations/tickets. It's still technicaly an arrest.

Rolling thru a stop sign and criminal trespass are two different animals but both can result in a "ticket".
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Cienega,

Thanks for the correction. For the NCIC check, I guess the local PD handle it very differently state by state(maybe even by county?). From my prior understanding, if you had never been arrested and fingerprinted, your check would come up negative. Do you know if you have arrests in another state and are arrested in Vegas, would it show when the LVPD calls it in to their dispatcher? I thought the Registered Owner or Driver's License checks that are radio'd in to dispatch are only run against that particular state's databases and the dispatch would come back with X priors and current warrants.

I guess Vegas is pretty cool in that if you are issued a "ticket" for a crime you won't have your fingerprints and/or picture entered into the NCIC database and don't have to go through the whole arrest(as in taken to lockup)/bail/court process. Am I correct in assuming that these ticket-able crimes are basically resolved by the accused having to mail in a fine or appear in court on a date set on the ticket? What other types of crimes do they issue only tickets for in Vegas?

The "N" in NCIC is for National as in "National Crime Information Center" :). It's DOJ/FBI run.

All the databases are available to local, state &, of course, federal LEO's. As long as they have the hardware to access. People, property, cars, guns - name it it's in there if it's crime related or missing. It'll show mugshots as well. I think it'll also show any type of criminal history on the individual queried.

I don't remember what class misdemeanor might not be in there but I don't think the lessor (stupid) ones would be.

Same with the ticket issue - I can't remember where the break is. The ticket is a promise to appear type thing and if you FTA on your due date the warrant issued will show up in NCIC, I know that much.

The trespass thing is so simple tho' being it's just "You should've left when they told you, dummy" type thing out here. Most of the subjects are just drunk idiots that don't know when to go home and feel macho-challanged when told to leave. Repeat cameos would result in a formal booking. There used to be an extensive time frame waiting for LEO to come take the person in custody away that it tied up both badges. Sometimes they wouldn't show at all and the person would be kicked loose.

The casinos have a shared network between them and Metro as well that's used for crimes, suspicious type events, BOLO's/missing persons, etc. And with that system as well - it's all a matter of who wants to spring the cash for inclusion.


This newer NCIC version was quite the step up with capabilities to match a digital fingerprint scanner. I can see it now. No ID check - just "Stick your finger on this pad, Sir."

Something of interest to visitors with serious (felony) criminal records: you can be arrested for breathing Nevada's air. There is a unique statute that requires any convicted felon entering the State to register themselves by appearing in person at the nearest police station shortly (I forget exactly how long, but not very long) after setting foot in Nevada. Of course none of them do this, so what this means is that in effect they can be jailed just for existing. Simply for failure to register, without commiting any new crime other than arriving and not telling the police they are here.

Add to this the fact that the guest registration records of all lodging establishments are required to be continuously available for perusal by law enforcement, not to mention the fact that it's such a heavily survielled place, and coming to Las Vegas has to be just about the worst possible idea that a really dumb badass type with a felony rap sheet could ever have.

[QUOTE=Cienega32]The "N" in NCIC is for National as in "National Crime Information Center" :). It's DOJ/FBI run.

All the databases are available to local, state &, of course, federal LEO's. As long as they have the hardware to access. People, property, cars, guns - name it it's in there if it's crime related or missing. It'll show mugshots as well. I think it'll also show any type of criminal history on the individual queried.

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All correct, one clarification, not to put too fine of a point on it. Typically the first checks done are the 10-29, thru NCIC, for 'wants and warrants'. 27 will verify driver's liscence status, 28 will check vehicle registration status. Criminal history doesn't come up on those, but has to be requested, and usually isn't unless it's an arrest or funny stuff comes up on the 29.