"Sugarbabies" / "Arrangements" Amateurs or Not?

[QUOTE=BookerTNelson;4583011]Fair point but if that's your stance on LE then I would ditch the biz cards or at the very least take off "Seeking Arrangement". (IMO the Seeking Arrangement tag isn't necessary at all).[/QUOTE]I thought about putting Sugar Daddy on them, but I know that terms creeps out some girls.

Seeking Arrangement seems to convey the message but leaves some ambiguity if I was ever confronted about the card.

Like I wrote, I never make repeated contact with any female. If I give her a card and she doesn't text, she will not hear from me again.

If she posts it on social media, all they will get it a fake name and a burner number.

If she responds positively, she will learn more about me at a M&G.

But make no mistake. The second a girl says something that leaves me with the impression that she is uncomfortable, I ghost.

I have been banned on SA about 5 times. Tinder about 20. Same game but on Tinder no need to worry about a new payment type (the best part of it all).

New IP, VPN or cell data.

No need for a burner on Tinder, I use the TextNow app to register (they will give you a new number if needed about every 14 days).

New name, email and picture if possible. I never link to any social media.

When you are up and running hold back take it easy the first few days on what you write in you profile and pictures you add. Thats when you are scrutinized the most.

Easy into adding more on your profile till you find your sweet spot.

[QUOTE=Truncated;4582882]Get a new burner. Do not connect it to your WiFi. Only use cell data.

Don't use any existing contact info to register the burner. Use a real address like an apartment complex.

Use a new email address. Don't use any existing contact info to register the email address.

Never use the burner for anything connected with your old / existing contact info. Never use your WiFi to connect with it.

If you do all of the above, Tinder won't link you back to your old account.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Newbie1961;4583148]I have been banned on SA about 5 times. Tinder about 20. Same game but on Tinder no need to worry about a new payment type (the best part of it all).

New IP, VPN or cell data.

No need for a burner on Tinder, I use the TextNow app to register (they will give you a new number if needed about every 14 days).

New name, email and picture if possible. I never link to any social media.

When you are up and running hold back take it easy the first few days on what you write in you profile and pictures you add. Thats when you are scrutinized the most.

Easy into adding more on your profile till you find your sweet spot.[/QUOTE]Thanks for the info.

I didn't know about TextNow.

For sure, never use the same photo. All the sites now seem to use pic recognition to connect profiles.

I just loaded the app. Works fine but I was wondering if any users have seen any pitfalls to it? I have it logging me in via my fake Facebook account and email address. I blocked it from accessing my contact list so hope it's good to go for the long term.

[QUOTE=Truncated;4583128]I thought about putting Sugar Daddy on them, but I know that terms creeps out some girls.

Seeking Arrangement seems to convey the message but leaves some ambiguity if I was ever confronted about the card.

Like I wrote, I never make repeated contact with any female. If I give her a card and she doesn't text, she will not hear from me again.

If she posts it on social media, all they will get it a fake name and a burner number.

If she responds positively, she will learn more about me at a M&G.

But make no mistake. The second a girl says something that leaves me with the impression that she is uncomfortable, I ghost.[/QUOTE]Understood, we're very much on the same page. I just don't think the SA tag on the card is necessary but it's just personal preference.

Any one seen her? Been around since May so maybe someone has met her. We just started chatted.

[URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/9178701a-c9f9-4a3d-8a34-7ae56b007b93[/URL]

Thanks.

Does anyone have any info on this girl called May who was on SA. Her phone number starts with a 512 area code.

This shit goes on in most dating type of social media. I live in NC, and was just recently a victim of a similar scenario. I was on one of those chat apps "meetme", something like SKOUT. Supposedly a 19 year old, started chatting with her. She wanted to switch to text. Long story short, similar scenario. First got the call from a pissed of "dad" from a blocked number, left me a message I was talking to his daughter who a minor, and wanted me to call him back to settle this. I was like, moron, how do I call you back if you called me from a blocked number and don't live the number where to call you. Couple days later, I receive a text about charges being pressed against me unless I agree to settle. Supposedly it was a sex crime detective, who is instructed to issue the arrest warrant unless I pay the family the distress fee. So I asked how much and where do I send the money. Of course it was a cashapp account and the amount was $312. So I said all the problems will be gone, and the little girl will be OK and the family will feel better if I send the money. , and the person says "yes. " so I asked for he cashapp account. Once I got that info, I texted him back "so let me get this straight. Supposedly some under age girl was allowed by her parents to set up an account on dating app, lying about her age. Sending pictures to me that I didn't ask for and somehow this is my fault. I have your phone number, name you gave me and your badge number, and the cashapp account. Before I send any money, I will run this by my attorney and see what "she" advises to do. I will request to hire the PI to little background check on this number and cashapp account, and all the info you gave me, than I'll get back to you. " The person texts me back saying "arrest warrant has been issued, good luck sir. " I said that's fine, good luck ot you as well. Guys, this is a season where these crimes increase, just like tax extortion crimes increase in April. Be smart, don't use your own phone, don't give any info or pics. These assholes pray on week and gullible, but if anything, they are the ones committing the crime. For all I knew, there was never a girl involved. It was ll setup.

[QUOTE=FanRat;4561857]Beware of PrettyLadyEmma on SA in Richmond!

I see why a lot of you guys don't give out your #.

Her profile says 19, looking for fun, blah blah blah. I messaged and she responded quickly and wanted to move to text. She texted and almost immediately sent a picture of her pussy and started in on how wet she was and wanted a picture of my cock. At this point I was done. Suspecting she's a scam or wants money for pics / vids so I just told her that I couldn't send any pics.

Then yesterday I get a call from a number I don't recognize and I answered. It was some guy asking why I had been texting his 16 yo daughter Emma. What? He went on about how he turned her phone in, her mom destroyed her laptop, they are sending her to boarding school, a bunch of crap. He didn't threaten but kinda sounded like he wanted me to pay for the phone and laptop to keep them from "going further". I politely apologized and told him I don't know what I'd do if it were my kid and ended the conversation. Haven't heard anything back.

I never had these issues before on SA but this time around it is possibly 2 underage or scammers.

Be careful![/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Rvaexec60;4583891]Does anyone have any info on this girl called May who was on SA. Her phone number starts with a 512 area code.[/QUOTE]Damn this girl is getting around like the flu. You are like the 7th guy asking about her. I am still waiting to see if anyone has actually closed the deal with this one LOL.

Her username is Bell234. So I now some of you have chatted with her. She is the one that comes as a pair. However, she only has her pic up and the reason for that is because her other "buddy" is an african american girl who, in my opinion, is not as attractive as the white girl. Here is a break down.

1. white girl won't have sex she will do blowjob. However, she just got her wisdom teeth out so can't for two weeks.

2. African american girl will willing to have sex but I don't think she is as cute as the other girl.

3. They come as a pair so no solos.

4. she quoted me $400 for her and $400 for her buddy - $800. For me to fuck one girl while just 'playing' with the other. What the fuck. This girl is on crack.

I don't see anyone being that stupid unless they are rich and money is no issue. Or if someone's dream is to be with an 18 year old.

[URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/d7dcaee2-beec-4248-9291-0fd143d95420[/URL]

[QUOTE=TheHobbyLobby;4584596]Her username is Bell234. So I now some of you have chatted with her. She is the one that comes as a pair. However, she only has her pic up and the reason for that is because her other "buddy" is an african american girl who, in my opinion, is not as attractive as the white girl. Here is a break down.

1. white girl won't have sex she will do blowjob. However, she just got her wisdom teeth out so can't for two weeks.

2. African american girl will willing to have sex but I don't think she is as cute as the other girl.

3. They come as a pair so no solos.

4. she quoted me $400 for her and $400 for her buddy - $800. For me to fuck one girl while just 'playing' with the other. What the fuck. This girl is on crack.

I don't see anyone being that stupid unless they are rich and money is no issue. Or if someone's dream is to be with an 18 year old.

[URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/d7dcaee2-beec-4248-9291-0fd143d95420[/URL][/QUOTE]The quoted price of these girls is definitely off the chart. She starts really high but will negotiate. I'm not exactly sure what goes on with her but she goes through times when she's desperate for money. The white girl Olivia is very cute and will fuck for a reasonable amount if you're persistent. Make her a decent offer considering she's a hot 18 yo and tell her that her friend can come and you'll kick a little in for her as well. She's big into her friend being there even if she doesn't participate.

You're correct on the wisdom teeth thing. She had them removed Friday morning so her mouth is unavailable for everything.

If so, my experience twice was that she wanted a deposit prior to meeting which shut down me ever meeting her

[QUOTE=TheHobbyLobby;4584585]Damn this girl is getting around like the flu. You are like the 7th guy asking about her. I am still waiting to see if anyone has actually closed the deal with this one LOL.[/QUOTE].

Had a chance to visit her this week. She was a lot of fun. I'm not going to say anymore and please don't PM me for her number, I don't have permission to share. Actually not even sure it's still working anymore.

She shut down her SA profile (or so she said) changed her phone number, and is shutting down her burner number (may already have). Honestly surprised she saw me. Although she isn't very conveniently located unless you live on the north side, she was fun and reasonable. Hope she doesn't completely disappear.

Stay safe.

RR.

[QUOTE=RomanRich;4585124]Had a chance to visit her this week. She was a lot of fun. I'm not going to say anymore and please don't PM me for her number, I don't have permission to share. Actually not even sure it's still working anymore.

She shut down her SA profile (or so she said) changed her phone number, and is shutting down her burner number (may already have). Honestly surprised she saw me. Although she isn't very conveniently located unless you live on the north side, she was fun and reasonable. Hope she doesn't completely disappear.

Stay safe.

RR.[/QUOTE]I can be blamed as one of the ones sharing her number. She did give me permission to share her number privately, just not publicly so she can't be mad. I shared it with 4 members in the last week and she's seen 3/4 that I know of so she isn't but so upset about all these unsolicited offers coming her way 😂.

[QUOTE=ItsAHobby45;4585261]I can be blamed as one of the ones sharing her number. She did give me permission to share her number privately, just not publicly so she can't be mad. I shared it with 4 members in the last week and she's seen 3/4 that I know of so she isn't but so upset about all these unsolicited offers coming her way.[/QUOTE]Glad I seem to have come out of it unscathed, and I always managed to see her when her kids wasn't there. Still I've found that I enjoy the SB's more with a more personal connection and when they don't have a turnstile at their door.