"Sugarbabies" / "Arrangements" Amateurs or Not?

[QUOTE=Starkey2008;4579211]
Bell234 - [URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/d7dcaee2-beec-4248-9291-0fd143d95420[/URL] - This is one of those "me and my friend" ADs, and I was REALLY skeptical at first. But I met them for an M&G. They ask for payment for the M&G at first but when I said no, they immediately agreed. Well. They are 100% real. Both 18 (I checked their I'd's) and they gave me enough info to find their social media. They say they graduated from H. S. This past June. But I actually think one of them is still a senior (which makes me a little nervous, but WTF). They are both SMOKING hot. And they are not very seasoned. But at least so far, they are also not FS. But I negotiated price based on that. So no actual intercourse, but I left VERY HAPPY (with pictures). I spent a casual hour + messing around with two smoking hot nude 18 year olds. They are just friends, so they were all about me, but we'll see how it goes. It's the strangest and yet most awesome SA experience I've had so far. And NO! I will NOT share their info (or the pics). If you join SA and get their attention, good for you, but I'm not going to scare them off by sharing their info. But, if you have seen them, reach out via PM. We can compare notes.
[/QUOTE]I met up with Olivia privately, she's the brunette in the photo. She was initially proposing the same deal, no FS hook up with her friend (who is black and I am not into that) but I told her I was only interested in sex. She claimed she was a virgin and then we negotiated a private meet, she was definitely inexperienced but IDK about a virgin. She is a hs senior, and it was a really enjoyable experience. Great body and definitely fresh, BBBJ and BBFS.

[QUOTE=Starkey2008;4579211]So on Cyber Monday (the Monday after Thanksgiving) I got an offer from SA for a free one-day membership. I've been a member off and on for about 4 years, and of course I took them up on it. I then proceeded to carpet bomb babies I had been checking out for several months while on hiatus. I basically sent a message that said I'd love to find out more about what type of arrangement they were looking for, but wanted to move our discussion off-line right away. I said I didn't like having conversation on the actual site. Surprisingly, I got a great response! More than 10 babies reached out to me the same day. Thought I'd share the results so far.

The babies who responded were, jackiebabyxoxo1, milf4 sd, Toocharmy4 u, bell234, spoilme1568, BlackDog, MPrincess, mynameissecret, steady_adventure, PoppinsE91, Aprhoditevenus, Jamesy Girl, cclaud, sweetpea94, and one other who I have not been able to identify.

Now I know that some of you guys will say that the fact they responded quickly means they're UTR / Pros. Which makes me LOL! Cause ALL THESE GIRLS are Pro's (except maybe the one's truly looking for just Platonic). But trust me guys, if a girl is fucking you because you pay her, she's a PRO! PERIOD! There are certainly degrees of pro, but sex you get that you would not get if there was not compensation involved is the definition of pro.

Anyway. Here's some reviews and status updates. I'll start with the ones who would be considered the most "pro" based on their longevity and activeness.

Toocharmy4 u - [URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/258717c6-04ea-4827-8603-690db2fecb9d[/URL] - This is the nurse who lives up near Kings Dominion. She a legit MILF spinner who's been a reliable lay at a reasonable price for a couple of years. She's DTF and can host.

Jamesy Girl. This girl has been around for several years. Has great tits and is always looking to scam you. I'm not even posting the link. Avoid her.

Milf4 sd - [URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/649ebaf7-adb2-4c8a-bf7b-317beb5e9022[/URL] - I dhave not even responded to her yet except to say thanks for reaching out. There were just too many others more worth my attention.

BlackDog - [URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/057c5502-572c-497a-93f3-247c41740fd9[/URL] - Seems really hot. But we traded a couple of messages and she ghosted. Which is a bummer, cause she looks pretty hot. Any intel would be appreciated.

Spoilme1568 - [URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/43b76335-00cf-4163-b4c9-588160e56a3a[/URL] - I was able to find her social media. She immediately gave off a desperate vibe and I could sense a clinger. Had to cut off that convo quick. Plus. Her pics are old. She's gained weight. But she seemed DTF and quoted me $300.00 if "needy" is your vibe.

MPrincess - [URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/84e99a9f-49b1-4bb6-9e79-a3ff46992d2f[/URL] - She seems HOT and DTF but is in Lynchburg. Quoted $350.00. But because of her location she's on the backburner.

Mynameissecret - [URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/7618e657-2e0e-4001-ba47-4b32e94d31b4[/URL] - GFS! She wanted me to send her $500.00 for pics and vids. RIGHT! Like that's going to happen.

PoppinsE91 - [URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/bccd10c7-d68d-4d9a-a5f1-b4f551d34abf[/URL] - She's a HOT MILF who is DTF (I found her social media). I'm really interested, but she quoted $375 which is a little more than I wanted to spend given other options. But I would like to fuck her. Just haven't circled back around yet to negotiate.

Aprhoditevenus - [URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/ffacd99a-046a-4420-ac28-a9305bb289c6[/URL] - Still in the early stages of talking to her and I'm interested. Seems cute and willing to do PPM at $350.00. I'll circle back later.

Cclaud -[URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/f27aa004-7dff-4c76-8622-bd665564b2c5[/URL] - Sent me some pics. Seems cute and willing to host in Midlo. But wants $200.00 for everything except FS. I'm interested but a little hesitant. Anyone actually met with her? I may TOFTT. But not this week.

Sweetpea94 - [URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/bc11fb1f-c3aa-4f4b-8a04-e880ea0ba4d6[/URL] - This one seems like what I would call a "pro". She wasn't very pleasant. I ghosted her almost immediately.

Jackiebabyxoxo1 - [URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/86db3fba-8114-4d6f-9b2d-0b517258c4cc[/URL] - She seems hot and we had a great convo. But haven't met yet. I need to follow up. Qouted me $300.00 PPM.[/QUOTE]She's cute and a good fuck but gets annoying with constantly texting asking for money. She always applies it to your next visit but she'll text asking you to venmo $10 for gas and then two hours later ask for another $20 to take her kid to the movies. I suspect she's doing that to enough of you that she's pulling in a good amount. Getting ready to cut her loose in favor of an exclusive situation I've just arranged.

EBob.

[QUOTE=KevinCalormis;4579553]I met up with Olivia privately, she's the brunette in the photo. She was initially proposing the same deal, no FS hook up with her friend (who is black and I am not into that) but I told her I was only interested in sex. She claimed she was a virgin and then we negotiated a private meet, she was definitely inexperienced but IDK about a virgin. She is a hs senior, and it was a really enjoyable experience. Great body and definitely fresh, BBBJ and BBFS.[/QUOTE]Can you share how much $$ for the meeting? I had a long interesting conversation with her. She started at 1500 for FS with one and BJ with other (her). I said no. Then 1700 for FS with both. No again. 1000 for FS with one and BJ (her). Told her I wasn't paying that much just for a BJ. She went to 1000 FS for both. But only an hour and she wouldn't take off shirt / bra. This was all last night and just ran out of time with all her back and forth.

Would like to know what the damage was for just her. Thanks.

Hey Mine.

You had that negotiation just last night? Well now you see the value of this forum. She will take her shirt and bra off. And here's a pic I took during our session to prove it (BTW - she'll take off the pants too). And it didn't cost me anywhere near 1000. I didn't get FS. I got DFK, DATY and BBBJ from both along with taking pics, some video and no time limit. I paid them $400.00 total. Which is still more than I wanted to. But they are legit, hot, fresh 18 year olds and it was worth it to me for a first trip to the FC. But they don't know that you know that. So they're still trying to hit a GRAND slam (so to speak). LOL!

Starkey.

[QUOTE=MineTooTell;4580005]Can you share how much $$ for the meeting? I had a long interesting conversation with her. She started at 1500 for FS with one and BJ with other (her). I said no. Then 1700 for FS with both. No again. 1000 for FS with one and BJ (her). Told her I wasn't paying that much just for a BJ. She went to 1000 FS for both. But only an hour and she wouldn't take off shirt / bra. This was all last night and just ran out of time with all her back and forth.

Would like to know what the damage was for just her. Thanks.[/QUOTE]

Kevin. I'm right there with you! After the session, I left convinced that Liv would be open to BBFS. But I also figured she would be much more likely to fuck in a one on one and not a double. So I'm working on that as we speak. I think her friend is a bit of a "butterface", but she has a tight little body and sucks a good dick. But I also think she is less open to BBFS or any FS. And because they are young and inexperienced, I don't think Liv is really willing to fuck in front of her friend. I appreciate you confirming my theory. I now have a clear goal. LOL! BTW. I also think Liv is open to Greek. I tried a little ass play in our session and she perked up. It seemed like it turned her on during and after she told me she liked it. I'm pretty sure she's a bit of a dirty girl, but won't show her true colors in front of her friend.

Thanks for the feedback!

Starkey.

[QUOTE=KevinCalormis;4579553]I met up with Olivia privately, she's the brunette in the photo. She was initially proposing the same deal, no FS hook up with her friend (who is black and I am not into that) but I told her I was only interested in sex. She claimed she was a virgin and then we negotiated a private meet, she was definitely inexperienced but IDK about a virgin. She is a hs senior, and it was a really enjoyable experience. Great body and definitely fresh, BBBJ and BBFS.[/QUOTE]

Hey FanRat,

You got to do you. But keep in mind, these babies can negotiate and change their terms anytime they want. Poppins offered to host FC at her place for $350 - $375, no M&G. Aphrodite offered PPM at $300, no M&G. And I promise you, Bell will negotiate and apparently has a "blackboard" menu, LOL! She will have "sex of any kind". She has with me. And apparently even more with others. Sounds like you need to circle back.

BTW. Here's the two ways I handle requests to pay for M&G. I say no. If they say, I've been burned before, I need you to prove you are serious, I say I've been burned before. I tell them I paid for an M&G once and after the girl ghosted me. So I need them to prove they are serious by showing up and letting me buy them coffee, or lunch and on rare occasions, dinner.

And as a fall back, I offer this deal. I tell them to take a few nude pictures holding a sign that says "Hi Starkey" before they come to the M&G. I tell them to have them ready on their phone. Once we're at the M&G, if I like the pictures, I will offer them some money in exchange for the pics. But they have to show up, and I get pictures that I know they made for me. If I want them.

Stay Safe!

Starkey.

[QUOTE=FanRat;4579434]I can tell you a little about these 4. I don't pay for M $G and I'm not wasting time if they say no FS or no sex at all so these conversations never went anywhere.

PoppinsE91 - [URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/bccd1...1-b4f551d34abf[/URL] -.

Asked $150 for M&G.

Aprhoditevenus - [URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/ffacd...8-a9305bb289c6[/URL].

Asked $150 for M&G.

Cclaud -[URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/f27aa...2-bd665564b2c5[/URL] -.

Quoted $300 for everything but FS.

Bell234 - [URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/d7dca...1-0fd143d95420[/URL].

Told me no sex of any kind.

And I will add TurkishDelight - [URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/58e19610-17a7-4906-904e-768bb5b5dfe9[/URL].

Texted back and forth for over a week trying to get schedules down. Discussed what we were looking for. Seemed like a match. Was supposed to see her for drinks tonight and at the last minute dropped the $100 for M $G.

I have had a sweet 18 yo over to the house to get stoned twice. Haven't given her any money. We have discussed intimacy but this is her 1st time so she wants to take it slow. It may well pan out and I'm willing to give it some time.

And I met a 23 yo Asian for coffee yesterday and were hooking up Sunday. She has had an arrangement before and seems totally DTF.

Thanks and be safe![/QUOTE]

[URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/63502d43-2e87-49ed-b4db-bf8308e854c5[/URL]

I sent her a message letting her know I was interested. She came back saying she usually gets 400 ppm. Anyone have experience with her?

Hey Gents,

Thanks for all the valuable feedback. Here's a couple of pics of Toocharmy4 u that she sent me. Happy Holidays!

[QUOTE=Starkey2008;4579211]Toocharmy4 u - [URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/258717c6-04ea-4827-8603-690db2fecb9d[/URL] - This is the nurse who lives up near Kings Dominion. She a legit MILF spinner who's been a reliable lay at a reasonable price for a couple of years. She's DTF and can host.


Stay Safe,

Starkey.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Starkey2008;4580129]Hey Gents,

Thanks for all the valuable feedback. Here's a couple of pics of Toocharmy4 u that she sent me. Happy Holidays![/QUOTE]That's definitely her although that forearm tattoo is new. She's good for a quick cheap fuck in a pinch but talks a lot of drama and also has a bf that lives with her. She's definitely been rode hard and put up wet.

[QUOTE=Starkey2008;4580056]Hey Mine.

You had that negotiation just last night? Well now you see the value of this forum. She will take her shirt and bra off. And here's a pic I took during our session to prove it (BTW - she'll take off the pants too). And it didn't cost me anywhere near 1000. I didn't get FS. I got DFK, DATY and BBBJ from both along with taking pics, some video and no time limit. I paid them $400.00 total. Which is still more than I wanted to. But they are legit, hot, fresh 18 year olds and it was worth it to me for a first trip to the FC. But they don't know that you know that. So they're still trying to hit a GRAND slam (so to speak). LOL!

Starkey.[/QUOTE]Appreciate all the info. Yes, I was chatting with her last night. Seemed to be needing quick cash. Kept pushing to meet that night. Was all over the place with her prices. Not sure why she thought 1500-1700 was happening. I'm going to keep pushing for a 1-on-1 and see where it goes.

As a side note: got to be extra careful with these young girls still living at home. Even though they are 18. I moved here from Northern VA. About 2 years ago a 18 living at home was using CL to meet guys for FS. Parents found out and called cops. Saying that these horrible men were corrupting their innocent daughter. LE used her phone and kik to contact a few guys she had seen. Since they had already had FS with her they were open to chatting about FS and the $$. Imagine their surprise when they showed up at the FC and LE was there.

[QUOTE=ItsAHobby45;4580162]That's definitely her although that forearm tattoo is new. She's good for a quick cheap fuck in a pinch but talks a lot of drama and also has a bf that lives with her. She's definitely been rode hard and put up wet.[/QUOTE]Does anyone have a non SA contact method for her? Other ad?

[QUOTE=MarkUser;4580201]Does anyone have a non SA contact method for her? Other ad?[/QUOTE]I have her real number and her burner number if nobody else can give it to you. I'd have to dig through a ton of messages to find it but I will if you need. She has a very limited window that she can host / fuck between when she gets off work and her bf gets home. Like 3-6 pm. Her daughter gets home from school at 4 but she's open to fucking with her daughter there. I just couldn't get myself together trying to fuck her with her daughter screaming from downstairs "has that boy left yet mommy" so I don't see her anymore. I was also fucking her in her daughters tiny little bed so that was weird too.

[QUOTE=ItsAHobby45;4580260]I have her real number and her burner number if nobody else can give it to you. I'd have to dig through a ton of messages to find it but I will if you need. She has a very limited window that she can host / fuck between when she gets off work and her bf gets home. Like 3-6 pm. Her daughter gets home from school at 4 but she's open to fucking with her daughter there. I just couldn't get myself together trying to fuck her with her daughter screaming from downstairs "has that boy left yet mommy" so I don't see her anymore. I was also fucking her in her daughters tiny little bed so that was weird too.[/QUOTE]She doesn't have the boyfriend anymore and she has a new job working nights three days a week so I would imagine she's got plenty of availability. I was supposed to see her today (I've advanced her about $160 in the last two weeks) but I texted her to let her know I wasn't coming anymore because I'm going exclusive with someone else and she texted back asking if wouldn't mind give her $20 more to get through the weekend LOL.

Boyfriend is gone now. She is good for a quick time.

[QUOTE=ItsAHobby45;4580260]I have her real number and her burner number if nobody else can give it to you. I'd have to dig through a ton of messages to find it but I will if you need. She has a very limited window that she can host / fuck between when she gets off work and her bf gets home. Like 3-6 pm. Her daughter gets home from school at 4 but she's open to fucking with her daughter there. I just couldn't get myself together trying to fuck her with her daughter screaming from downstairs "has that boy left yet mommy" so I don't see her anymore. I was also fucking her in her daughters tiny little bed so that was weird too.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=GolfMan57;4580344]Boyfriend is gone now. She is good for a quick time.[/QUOTE]That's interesting. If that opens her up to hours when her daughter isn't there I may pay her a visit. She really gets into being fucked hard and she's cheap so win win. She was one of the first girls I fucked when I started this whole SA thing a few months ago and I fucked her bb so I was worried for a while but luckily I didn't catch anything from her.